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===Why?===
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: [[Ask OLPC a Question about Distribution#Overview|Because]]. --[[User:Xavi|Xavi]] 11:39, 17 March 2007 (EDT)
: [[Ask OLPC a Question about Distribution#Overview|Because]]. --[[User:Xavi|Xavi]] 11:39, 17 March 2007 (EDT)
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: A fuller answer would be: Because retail sales would require an infrastructure that would take time and other resources away from OLPC's primary mission - to put laptops in the hands of children in developing countries. In addition, while retail sales of the XO would undoubtly be a way to raise money to underwrite the foundation's ability to give the XO to others who can't afford one, it then puts OLPC up against every computer reseller from Apple to Zenith who wants to sell a PC to you & I. The foundation doesn't need to be distracted from their core mission by dealing with all the headaches that would come with developing the infrastructure to produce and distribute machines for the retail channel. That's a full time job for most companies, let alone a foundation that would only be doing it as a stepping stone towards their core mission. --[[User:Valichi|Valichi]] 20:40, 9 November, 2007 (UDT)
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: I know little about economics or running a business (or non-profit), but what if OLPC simply opened themselves to orders from private individuals/companies, etc, through their website? No advertising, no dealing with retail. The customer pays the full cost of shipping. Charge enough for the laptop that you can set aside a portion from the sale for sending a free laptop to a child in need. For every 2, 3, or 5 laptops sold to private customers a laptop could be sent to a child for free. The only impediment I can imagine to a plan such as this is if the cost of shipping would drive the cost to the customer up beyond the demand. -- [[User:AndCod|AndCod]] 13:03, 16 February 2008 (EST)
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==== Is it better to sell 1,000,000 XOs at $200 without subsidy or 100,000 at $400 with subsidy? ====
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Given that you are already selling laptops to privates via G1G1 and that the orders from governments are not materializing as expected, wouldn't the "distractions" and "headaches" of a permanent commercial offering start to be justified? In this context, does a 100% subsidy make any economic sense? I do not know how the demand would respond to a halving of the commercial price, but please bear with me for the sake of the argument. The extra 800,000 machines would reduce production costs, attract more developers, and improve product awareness and visibility. Wouldn't that far outweight the advantage of having 100,000 laptops to give away for free, particularly in the current context? And should the $200 OLPC become a commercial success, outclassing the competition in the free market, wouldn't that help to pitch the laptop to governments? I am not claiming that there should never be a subsidy, only that in such early stages, a subsidy might actually be detrimental to future deployments. For instance, if  the commercial price was kept fixed at $200, there would be little or no subsidy at first, but with time, as the production cost improves, the embedded subsidy would play a more important role. Should the cost drop to $100, the subsidy would again approach 1-1. Whether such proposition makes sense, depends on several factors, not least the shape of the cost function and the elasticity of demand. But the situation should be carefully assessed, without assuming that an embedded subsidy of 100%, or worse, no commercial offering at all, is the best way forward. --Agostino Russo--
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::The XO also has an analog input via a special mode of the microphone input.  This would work for measuring blood pressure, temperatures, and other things, with proper plug-in appliances.  A very interesting application for telemedecine to each school with olpc's.
::The XO also has an analog input via a special mode of the microphone input.  This would work for measuring blood pressure, temperatures, and other things, with proper plug-in appliances.  A very interesting application for telemedecine to each school with olpc's.
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A third scenario: this laptop would do well in emergency relief situations. I'm thinking specifically of survivor registry, as that's where my experience lies.
===Supply Issue===
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Do you accept donations?   
Do you accept donations?   
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:OLPC is establishing a 501(c)3 public charity named the 2B1 Worldwide Fund. This organization will be able to accept financial donations from the general public and institutions interested in supporting the one laptop per child initiative. The OLPC web site will be updated with a link to the 2B1 site and specific information on how to contribute. --[[User:Fadel|Fadel]] 00:54, 19 October 2006 (EDT)
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:Yes!  See http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XO_Giving
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What about making a donation as a stock gift? I can't find anything other than a PayPal/Credit Card link.
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: For special contributions beyond simple cash donations, you should e-mail giving@laptop.org. [[User:Bemasc|Ben]] 00:32, 31 October 2007 (EDT)
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The school that I work for in Singapore has agreed to be a donor for 35 laptops through G1G1 (we don't have the budget for Give Many). However, we ran into difficulties as the school regulation for foreign transactions is only through direct bank to bank transfer and not credit card. I've called the customer service and was informed only credit card payment is accepted. Is this true? Anyway to get around this?
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: The customer service line likely only understands credit card payments.  You might try writing to the "givemany" or "service" e-mail addresses listed on the [http://laptopfoundation.org/participate/givemany.shtml GiveMany] page.  Even though you are not ordering 100+ laptops, they may be more accommodating regarding the payment options for a bulk order at the Give-One-Get-One price. &mdash;[[User:Leejc|Joe]] 09:55, 15 December 2007 (EST)
===Distribution Help===
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::The MOU with [[Libya]] includes building wireless infrastructure, some of which will be planned with the help of experts from other countries. Of course, it is essential to train local experts as quickly as possible. Such initial training can be done in English or French almost anywhere in the world, certainly including Libya, Nigeria, and Brazil. From that point on, the local experts can train further local experts in whatever language they find convenient. --[[User:Mokurai|Mokurai]] 18:14, 9 November 2006 (EST)
::The MOU with [[Libya]] includes building wireless infrastructure, some of which will be planned with the help of experts from other countries. Of course, it is essential to train local experts as quickly as possible. Such initial training can be done in English or French almost anywhere in the world, certainly including Libya, Nigeria, and Brazil. From that point on, the local experts can train further local experts in whatever language they find convenient. --[[User:Mokurai|Mokurai]] 18:14, 9 November 2006 (EST)
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==== Government Co-Ordination ====
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What exactly does the OLPC do when it coordinates with the governments?
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=== Price ===
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:Production will be in Taiwan.--[[User:Mokurai|Mokurai]] 02:23, 13 October 2006 (EDT)
:Production will be in Taiwan.--[[User:Mokurai|Mokurai]] 02:23, 13 October 2006 (EDT)
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::Strictly speaking, production is in China, but the manufacturer is based in Taiwan [[User:Bemasc|Ben]] 00:35, 31 October 2007 (EDT)
I want to know if someone(anyone) will can buy this laptop(for development or just for personal use reasons) and, if yes, how can I get 1 of these(for development in my case).(daxohara at gmail.com)
I want to know if someone(anyone) will can buy this laptop(for development or just for personal use reasons) and, if yes, how can I get 1 of these(for development in my case).(daxohara at gmail.com)
:Not yet.--[[User:Mokurai|Mokurai]] 02:23, 13 October 2006 (EDT)
:Not yet.--[[User:Mokurai|Mokurai]] 02:23, 13 October 2006 (EDT)
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:: Soon you will be able to, via [[G1G1]] [[User:Bemasc|Ben]] 00:35, 31 October 2007 (EDT)
=== Can you help me to put an OLPC machine into a unique environment ===
=== Can you help me to put an OLPC machine into a unique environment ===
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I am a Fourth grade teacher in Southern Indiana.  We are a technologically underdeveloped school and recently realized this alarming fact.  We discussed how technology, such as familiarity with computers and resources available on them would benefit our students.  Is there a possibility to become a test school for this program and if so, how do I sign our school up?  If not, could I write a grant in the future for the benefit of our kids?  I love the idea that these laptops would go to other countries, but would also love for American children to have the opportunity to use the B1 as well.  Thank you for your wonderful work and the promise that it shows.  (By the way, american children would love helping to buy computers for children in other countries.)
I am a Fourth grade teacher in Southern Indiana.  We are a technologically underdeveloped school and recently realized this alarming fact.  We discussed how technology, such as familiarity with computers and resources available on them would benefit our students.  Is there a possibility to become a test school for this program and if so, how do I sign our school up?  If not, could I write a grant in the future for the benefit of our kids?  I love the idea that these laptops would go to other countries, but would also love for American children to have the opportunity to use the B1 as well.  Thank you for your wonderful work and the promise that it shows.  (By the way, american children would love helping to buy computers for children in other countries.)
:Contact me. I can connect your children with a class in another country via e-mail, chat, and Webcam. --[[User:Mokurai|Mokurai]] 07:05, 21 November 2006 (EST)
:Contact me. I can connect your children with a class in another country via e-mail, chat, and Webcam. --[[User:Mokurai|Mokurai]] 07:05, 21 November 2006 (EST)
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=== Enlisting as Volunteer ===
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I am a MIS instructor at the University of Delaware and would like to enlist myself as a volunteer educator to bring this technology to other countries. I would like to organize a service learning program (BTW all Univesity of Delaware must now do to graduate) that would help to bring these computer to third world countries and then offer students a chance to interact and train other students who may have never even heard of the word computer.
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My email address [http://wiki.laptop.org/index.php?title=Ask_OLPC_a_Question_about_Distribution&diff=35334&oldid=33498 can be found in this edition]. I would appreciate a quick note in return to sse if this is feasible!  Thank you!
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: I would suggest sending an email to the volunteer account in [[Contact OLPC]].
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: I removed your email address to avoid spam&mdash;hopefuly ;) --[[User:Xavi|Xavi]] 07:56, 27 April 2007 (EDT)
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:The core functionality of the laptop is an ebook library. We do not feel that it is necessary to tell teachers how to use books in their curriculum. But overall, these laptops are being deployed in conjunction with ministries of education. These are the people who develop the curricula, hire and train the teachers, and so on. We may advise them and do advise them, but in the end, all curriculum decisions are not ours to make.
:The core functionality of the laptop is an ebook library. We do not feel that it is necessary to tell teachers how to use books in their curriculum. But overall, these laptops are being deployed in conjunction with ministries of education. These are the people who develop the curricula, hire and train the teachers, and so on. We may advise them and do advise them, but in the end, all curriculum decisions are not ours to make.
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,=== How can the COUNTRY of LIBERIA become involved in distribution in that country? ===
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EDEN FOUNDATION PROJECT, INC.
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The Eden Foundation Project is a non-profit entity. We are a "grassroots" organization composed of Liberians and African Americans as well as several other country's women and men. Our members of the project are all christian and hold "our service to others as the rent we pay for our room here on earth". Eden Foundation Project, Inc. is registered with the Liberian Government to service the children through education and computer literacy; it is incorporated here in the United States. The Eden Foundation has built a "Childern's" Library in Parker Paint, Paynesville, Monrovia Liberia. Through donations from churches, school children and individuals in the United States over 3 years. We have over 6,000 books in the Library; more books than the University at this time. Please forward me an address or email to obtain information to become a part of the OLPC program. Thank you for your time.
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: As stated in [[Ask OLPC a Question#How can a country get involved?]], it's the country itself that must get involved, in other words, the government. You can try [[Contacts|contacting OLPC]], but unfortunately in the first deployment stages [[Ask OLPC a Question#Can NGOs and charities get them?|NGOs & charities are not currently eligible]], maybe in the near future. I would suggest lobbying the Liberian government officials about the project so that they make contact with OLPC. [[User:Xavi|Xavi]] 23:27, 26 August 2007 (EDT)
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== Thank You So Much!==
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Does OLPC have a protocol for lobbying Government Officials? Which official is the most influencial to contact? We will be traveling to Liberia in November 2007 and hope to take a few Laptops and Desk tops with us. Fortunately the Library has a couple of generators. I have been searching the table of contents of articles and the archives to locate the Ask OLPC question# you mentioned...do you know the #?
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Peace, Yaa, Eden Foundation Project, Inc.
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== [ Give 1 Get 1] for Europe ==
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Are you planning on making the November offer for people in Europe? Or Asia, Africa, South America, Australasia, Central America/Carribean islands...? Ideally before Christmas 2007?
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:It's not hard to find places that will provide a USA mailing address for people outside the USA.
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I have searched everywhere on the OLPC site to find the answer to this question, but to no avail. I live in Britain and would love to take advantage of the G1G1 offer and I would like to pass the information on to others who could benefit from testing out this laptop for disadvantaged kids here. I would even be happy to pay the extra postage. Can someone from OPLC please make clear who in the world this offer is available to. Thanks!
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::There are also comments on this at [[Talk:Give 1 Get 1]], including a lot more speculation and the closest I've seen to an official answer (but no, still no official answer).
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: In case the OLPC people miss the question here, you might also try sending it to webmaster@grong-site[xogiving-org].  Hopefully the answer will eventually be posted on the [http://www.[*invalide* - xogiving.org ] /faq.html frequently asked questions page] there, as several people have asked about sales outside of North America.  However, the fact that they ''explicitly'' mention a restriction to North America on the [http://www.[*invalide*- xogiving- org]/ front page of the G1G1 site] leads me to believe that the answer is "no". &mdash;[[User:Leejc|Joe]] 20:02, 10 October 2007 (EDT)
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::This "explicit" mention has now gone from the official site. Does that mean a change in policy?
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::Was there ever even a policy? The complete lack of information is making me suspect that OLPC assume that the only people who use the internet and buy computers are the "white American (i.e. US) geeks" they refer to on the [http://www.olpcnews.com/sales_talk/g1g1/ official news blog], and the mysterious peoples of the distant land of Ka-Na-Da.
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::: The explicit mention is still there on the front page of the XOGiving site: "Starting November 12, One Laptop Per Child will be offering a Give 1 Get 1 Program for a brief window of time in North America."  The blog you cite is [[Talk:The_OLPC_Wiki#OLPC_news_blog | not official]], which is why it bills itself as "an independent source of news".
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::: There is some irony in calling the OLPC U.S.-centric when their only customers to date have been foreign governments.  I am not affiliated with the program, but the impression I get is that the OLPC was never intended to do individual sales ("it's an education project, not a laptop project"), so the current swell of interest in individual sales has caught them by surprise.  Three months ago, the best hope any individual consumer anywhere had of getting an XO was to wait until 2008 when Quanta would perhaps sell similar machines directly.  Now, the Give-One-Get-One program is available&mdash;perhaps because it is the fastest way of gauging actual interest and satisfying demand.  The program may be North America-only now, but I think it should be viewed as a positive step: the G1G1 program is purely in response to public interest, so if there is similar interest abroad they may offer a similar program there.  And they have to start ''somewhere''&mdash;the fact that they are starting where it is easiest shows that maybe they will make G1G1 available as it becomes feasible, rather than waiting until they figure out how to distribute it in all countries before distributing it in any.  I agree that the lack of news is frustrating, but I expect we'll see a lot more information in the next two weeks (and, of course, the core OLPC people are extremely busy with the initial rollout, which understandably has a much higher priority for them than individual sales). &mdash;[[User:Leejc|Joe]] 11:29, 8 November 2007 (EST)
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My laptops arrived last night.  It was my understanding that complimentary 1 year T-Mobile access information was to come with the laptops.  Is this program still in effect and how do I get the information code for the T-mobile access?
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At least one person has reported an ordering problem here (see below).  I ordered our OLPC via Give1Get1 online late November 07 and received it about 30 days later (US).  I hadn't seen the recommendation below and did not contact OLPC ... the ordering process worked smoothly.
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:'After ordering within the first 25 min of the initative, I've been waiting anxiously to receive the unit.  I called to try and get more specific info to be told that, even though a payment was processed and deducted from my account, there was no record of my order anywhere in the system.  I now have to wait 2-3 days to be contacted by a supervisor to begin sorting this mess out.  This means that, regardless of my effort to act as quickly as possible AND being one of the first responders, there is no way I'll be receiving the unit in the Dec window.  I HIGHLY recommend that you contact OLPC to verify your order even if, like me, they had no trouble charging you the money for it.'

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Distribution

This page deals with issues related to the distribution, roll-out, marketing, sales, and things that will actually make the OLPC be in the hands of kids.

FAQ

===Where or how can I get one?=== i like to reveive a piece of laptop from your company. Please help me out. you can contact me at boccares@gmail.com

Osondu Short answer: Either apply for an XO through the developer's program or get one through the Give 1, Get 1 program (no longer possible as of 2008).

Medium answer: Given the characteristics of the project, the OLPC is initially available only to national government agencies—e.g., Ministry of Education—allowing us to achieve the initial economy of scale and a sufficiently large impact to make it sustainable. There are plans and ideas on how to expand our market to include other smaller and/or distributed organizations that will cater to people, places and situations where government agencies are unavailable - in the future and most likely collaborating through and with other parties.

Trying to satisfy personal, individual or otherwise 'isolated' retail requests (many present in this section) will divert precious energy that would otherwise be more effective at larger scales and targets. This does not imply a lack of interest or sympathy towards these requests, many of which are at the heart of our mission, but rather a physical limit that has to do with trade-offs between wishful thinking and practical realities. By no means does this preclude or try to impede that private, NGO and other grass-root organizations or people lobby in their target countries to be included as recipients or to participate—it just means that they'll have to be a little patient and not lose sight of their dreams and try to match it with our timings.

Keep alert, maybe in the near future there'll be news that will allow us to cater your special demand.

Future answer: YOU CAN, probably, almost. Quanta, the manufacturer of the OLPC laptop, may start selling $200 laptops in 2008 or so that resemble the OLPC laptop. See this.

Give 1 Get 1

See xogiving.org or XO Giving for further information on the "Give 1 Get 1" program.

Can we get the number of machines distributed in the USA by city/state? This information may facilitate getting together with other XO owners.

For the full story on retail sales, read: this article (another article) (another in spanish).

Will it be distributed in developed countries?

Yes. In the US it has been distributed most prominently in Birmingham, Alabama. As mentioned in the countries section, the decision to distribute in any particular country (including the USA and other developed countries) does not depend on the OLPC but on the government's decision.

Note must be taken that developing countries are the initial and ultimate target countries for the OLPC, although it does not preclude other countries from participating.

For further discussions on the subject see OLPC4USA and retail.

Can NGOs and charities get them?

The short answer: see the XO Giving page. Groups should refer to the Give Many page. Individuals should refer to the (retail) availability page.

The OLPC efforts are currently focused at national level, and although we would love to make it available without restrictions, this would disrupt and overload our launch process in order to deal with the vast number of NGOs that are interested in participating. After the initial launch, plans include the opening up to include them. See here.

Who will get one?

As much as we would like to see an OLPC in the hands of every child on the planet, practical issues and humanitarian criteria help decide the first people to get laptops:

  • Children and teachers in developing countries whose governmental leaders have partnered with OLPC

Other Distribution Questions

Why?

Why is it, that retail to individual persons/ngos/charities is not planned?

Please either give some reasoning here or provide links in the sections dealing with those questions.

Because. --Xavi 11:39, 17 March 2007 (EDT)
A fuller answer would be: Because retail sales would require an infrastructure that would take time and other resources away from OLPC's primary mission - to put laptops in the hands of children in developing countries. In addition, while retail sales of the XO would undoubtly be a way to raise money to underwrite the foundation's ability to give the XO to others who can't afford one, it then puts OLPC up against every computer reseller from Apple to Zenith who wants to sell a PC to you & I. The foundation doesn't need to be distracted from their core mission by dealing with all the headaches that would come with developing the infrastructure to produce and distribute machines for the retail channel. That's a full time job for most companies, let alone a foundation that would only be doing it as a stepping stone towards their core mission. --Valichi 20:40, 9 November, 2007 (UDT)
I know little about economics or running a business (or non-profit), but what if OLPC simply opened themselves to orders from private individuals/companies, etc, through their website? No advertising, no dealing with retail. The customer pays the full cost of shipping. Charge enough for the laptop that you can set aside a portion from the sale for sending a free laptop to a child in need. For every 2, 3, or 5 laptops sold to private customers a laptop could be sent to a child for free. The only impediment I can imagine to a plan such as this is if the cost of shipping would drive the cost to the customer up beyond the demand. -- AndCod 13:03, 16 February 2008 (EST)

Is it better to sell 1,000,000 XOs at $200 without subsidy or 100,000 at $400 with subsidy?

Given that you are already selling laptops to privates via G1G1 and that the orders from governments are not materializing as expected, wouldn't the "distractions" and "headaches" of a permanent commercial offering start to be justified? In this context, does a 100% subsidy make any economic sense? I do not know how the demand would respond to a halving of the commercial price, but please bear with me for the sake of the argument. The extra 800,000 machines would reduce production costs, attract more developers, and improve product awareness and visibility. Wouldn't that far outweight the advantage of having 100,000 laptops to give away for free, particularly in the current context? And should the $200 OLPC become a commercial success, outclassing the competition in the free market, wouldn't that help to pitch the laptop to governments? I am not claiming that there should never be a subsidy, only that in such early stages, a subsidy might actually be detrimental to future deployments. For instance, if the commercial price was kept fixed at $200, there would be little or no subsidy at first, but with time, as the production cost improves, the embedded subsidy would play a more important role. Should the cost drop to $100, the subsidy would again approach 1-1. Whether such proposition makes sense, depends on several factors, not least the shape of the cost function and the elasticity of demand. But the situation should be carefully assessed, without assuming that an embedded subsidy of 100%, or worse, no commercial offering at all, is the best way forward. --Agostino Russo--

Training & Capacity Building

Volunteering as a Teacher

Do you have any volunteer-teachers program to help children/local-teachers learning some basic/advanced programming and/or maths subjects? If so I would like to volunteer.

There is no reason to wait for OLPC. You can volunteer with a number of organizations to work on computers in schools right now. Join the Peace Corps, for example. They are now giving every volunteer a computer, and part of the mission is to teach somebody to use it, and then to leave it behind with that person. Or you could talk to Grameen Foundation USA about its Village Computing Project. Or Sarvodaya in Sri Lanka. Or Global Catalyst about computers in refugee camps. Or get on some of the non-profit mailing lists that regularly send out job notices for the world. Try the OneWorld jobs and volunteering page, or the UK equivalent.--Mokurai 16:12, 13 October 2006 (EDT)

I am interested in being a OLPC volunteer. How would I go about applying or contacting someone about that? Thank you Maggie DeAngelis

I guess that depends on what kind of volunteering you want to do. For starters, you can collaborate on this wiki. On the other hand, if you want to be a volunteer within the OLPC, I would suggest you take a look at Contact OLPC for the emails. On the gripping hand, if your intention is to volunteer for deployment activities, you should get in contact with the country you wish to deploy to - as the OLPC is not involved (per-se) in deployment; that's upto each country to decide and do.--Xavi 16:47, 22 January 2007 (EST)
(removed email - if needed, it can be found in edition:15:04 of this page history)

Teacher training

Some critics are complaining that there is no plan for training teachers to use OLPC laptops. I don't believe that this is so, but there is no page on this Wiki explaining what the plan is, or might be. There is also fear that the children will soon know more than the teachers, at which point teachers are predicted to rebel against the program. This does not have to happen, but the question must be addressed, preferably with field experience of some kind. Ed Cherlin

There is a cohort of schools in the US with several years of 1:1 computer:student experience. One such school is [1] Greensboro Day School, and we would be interested in partnering with a school in Libya (or another country) in terms of collegiality for teachers and support. We have had several positive experiences partnering electronically and via travel with schools in other parts of the world. How do we get connected to help?

I can put you in touch with schools in Sri Lanka and Ghana, for a start.--Mokurai 02:23, 13 October 2006 (EDT)
The issue of teacher training has been partially addressed with the announcement of the MOU with Libya. The plan exists, but has not been released publicly yet.--Mokurai 17:37, 15 October 2006 (EDT)
You can't train teachers until the hardware design is frozen and the software set is nailed down. Since each country can have more its own software set, the training really does have to be country specific. For those countries which adopt Squeak Etoys there is a lot of teacher-oriented material on the Etoys websites.

Training

Dear olpc.org,

I am a IT contractor based in Mozambique. I am personally planning on opening a computer training facility in Mozambique, in the rural district of Boane about 50kms from the capital Maputo district. I have performed an initial survey and there is a lack of IT knowledge and many of the youngsters between the ages of 12 to 19 don't know what a computer is.

You need to talk to John Dada of the Fantsuam Foundation, who is running such a facility in Nigeria. --Mokurai 18:45, 9 November 2006 (EST)

I would like to provide them with the skills they need to better their livelihood and of their families. My plans are to create an infrastructure for both pupils and for those who are not, giving them the valuable skills needed to further pursue their goals. My initial revenue will come from NGO's who have volunteers needing access to the internet to contact home. Various activities such as printing, document translations and IT courses will also help to curb costs.

I would like to know how I can import and implement your olpc equipment here too? If you have any queries please do not hesitate to contact me.

Yours Sincerely

Chan W. Lou

Contact your government and urge it to implement the OLPC program. Offer your assistance. We will support you. --Mokurai 18:45, 9 November 2006 (EST)

Question regarding upcoming prototype testing?

I understand the first prototypes of workable systems will finish being manufactured this month. Testing is supposed to occur shortly thereafter in select countries. Is there any volunteer opportunities to work with the systems and children during testing? I will be in Argentina for the winter/spring and am interested in getting involved with the project.

No, according to information on this site.--Mokurai 06:59, 21 November 2006 (EST)

Are there possibilities for borrowing an OLCP machine to perform prototype testing/usability studies (in Nepal)? (I'm a PhD student in computer science/HCI).

Good! visit http://olpcnepal.org and join discussion group.

Stakeholder Testing

How many children, especially in the target groups, have been involved since the first testable prototypes have come about?

The prototypes are unfinished and extremely few in number. Testing in schools has not begun.--Mokurai 17:30, 15 October 2006 (EDT)
There are about 900 units being put together for testing, of which 200 will reportedly be destroyed in drop tests. --Mokurai 06:59, 21 November 2006 (EST)

Donations

Is there any option of a donation? I am working with a school in Guatemala and the kids age ranges from 7 to 15, With help from others and local efforts we have bought some computers with a microsoft operation system, however this project seem to me very interesting because it is an education, environmental and technology project and I just want to see if there is any option on getting some of your laptops to the kids here in Guatemala, the school is locate on a village of the province of Sololá, and our kids cames from very poor families, currently we have sponsor from Oregon and Ohio, however we want to give the best to them and help them to be ready to face the world challenges once they are profesionals and we are in need of technology, if this is not psosible how much will be the lates for oan of the laptops. Thanks a lot. Henry Vásquez, henrymisael2003@hotmail.com

Will the pilot project of 500 children in Thailand testing the laptops “survive” the resent coup in that country? If yes, when will it start? (Bine)

There wasn't one, and no. The new government installed by the coup is badmouthing Linux and Free Software generally, and has opened discussions with Microsoft. --Mokurai 06:59, 21 November 2006 (EST)
See http://www.olpcnews.com/sales_talk/countries/olpc_thailand_sales_back_on.html, though I don't know anything about its veracity. 204.210.52.172 23:01, 24 November 2006 (EST)

Our offer stands. Any time you need help just let us know. We check this site regularly.

Contact me at echerlin@gmail.com. I'm working with other NGOs to form a global partnership to do the parts of the program that OLPC can't do.--Mokurai 16:22, 18 December 2006 (EST)

Talking about donations, Im From Colombia, now i am begining to develop for OLPC, and i was wondering if OLPC can make a donation of some computers for a Colombian native comunity called the NASA,if not a donation could it be a testing like in Thailand? it could be a great beginnig for aproach to Colombian government. any suggestions to dirakx@gmail.com --RafaelOrtiz 21:40, 28 October 2006 (EDT)

OLPC is selling the computers at little above cost. It does not have a billion dollars to give away. --Mokurai 06:59, 21 November 2006 (EST)

Ok..i was just asking for the possibility, but i understand your answer. --RafaelOrtiz 23:18, 24 November 2006 (EST)

But join OLPC Colombia. You can talk to the government about the program, and recruit others to do the same. Also email me at echerlin@gmail.com. I'm putting together a coalition of NGOs worldwide to address this and other matters that are outside the OLPC mission, but are vital for ending poverty.--Mokurai 16:22, 18 December 2006 (EST)

Scope Leap

Is it an unwelcome increase in project scope to raise the question of using these computers to support public and community data health processing? I am thinking of two scenarios: a) the rollout of anti-retroviral therapy in remote clinics across the world, and b) the situation of a country like Ethiopia that is extremely poor, has tremendous needs for managing patient data in clinics and so-called "health posts", but which does not have the funds or the infrastructure to support the network of computers that do this work in developed countries. I would welcome more discussion on this point.

I know of a low-cost telemedicine system from India that could be attached to this laptop, giving a doctor in some other location electronic readouts of vital signs, imaging of eye, ear, nose, throat, skin, etc., and a chance to converse with the patient, all over wireless. Blood chemistry analytics are in development. A digital microscope could be added if the cost issue could be dealt with. I would add the requirements of malaria, TB (including drug-resistant varieties), river blindness, nutrition, OB-GYN, and a lot more. Talk to Dr. Paul Farmer, Partners in Health, Harvard and Haiti; Dr. A. T. Ariyaratne, Sarvodaya Shramadana Movement, Sri Lanka; everybody who appeared in the TV series Rx for Survival; and the Gates Foundation. Ed Cherlin (Ed: Got a URL for this Indian telemedecine system?)
If it supports a USB interface, then buy one and make sure its device drivers and software work on the OLPC Linux images. If it doesn't support USB, then encourage the manufacturers to make a USB version. The OLPC has 4 (four) USB ports for a reason. Use them!
The XO also has an analog input via a special mode of the microphone input. This would work for measuring blood pressure, temperatures, and other things, with proper plug-in appliances. A very interesting application for telemedecine to each school with olpc's.

A third scenario: this laptop would do well in emergency relief situations. I'm thinking specifically of survivor registry, as that's where my experience lies.

Supply Issue

On the supply issue, will each laptop be given to a child or will it just be located at the school? This question is asked because at the age of 5 to 10 yrs one tends to be very careless to properties and might end up damaging or losing it. But if it is based only in the school premises, the issue concerning lost or damaged can be reduced. Regards, Sylvester F. Fingesi. slytoltec@yahoo.com--212.39.161.50 10:56, 18 July 2006 (EDT)

Actually, there is evidence to the contrary: the school computers tend to break down with more frequency than laptops that children take home with them. The theory is that the sense of ownership makes a difference. Walter 17:00, 2 August 2006 (EDT)

Financial Contributions

Do you accept donations?

Yes! See http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XO_Giving

What about making a donation as a stock gift? I can't find anything other than a PayPal/Credit Card link.

For special contributions beyond simple cash donations, you should e-mail giving@laptop.org. Ben 00:32, 31 October 2007 (EDT)

The school that I work for in Singapore has agreed to be a donor for 35 laptops through G1G1 (we don't have the budget for Give Many). However, we ran into difficulties as the school regulation for foreign transactions is only through direct bank to bank transfer and not credit card. I've called the customer service and was informed only credit card payment is accepted. Is this true? Anyway to get around this?

The customer service line likely only understands credit card payments. You might try writing to the "givemany" or "service" e-mail addresses listed on the GiveMany page. Even though you are not ordering 100+ laptops, they may be more accommodating regarding the payment options for a bulk order at the Give-One-Get-One price. —Joe 09:55, 15 December 2007 (EST)

Distribution Help

I know there is going to be coordination with foreign governments, but how else will the distribution process take place? Will there be people in country helping with the set up of and distribution of the devices and troubleshooting? I work in computer networking myself and would do anything to travel and help with ensuring proper distribution and set up of these computers.

The 2B1 does not require experts in convential computer and networking technology to help with distribution. In addition, any English-speaking experts will be severly hampered by their inability to speak the target language, for instance the Libyan dialect of Arabic or one of the 500 or so Nigerian languages. That is not a typo; there really are five hundred languages in use in Nigeria which has the world's largest population of black people. In the country with the world's second largest population of black people, Brazil, it is somewhat simpler since nearly 100% of the population use Portuguese even if it is not their native language. And there are only 188 other languages spoken there.
This is not a conventional aid project where smart rich outsiders go and do their bit for the poor downtrodden natives and then run back home to mama. This is about enabling people in other countries to do their own thing, to learn by doing for themselves. It is not about transferring outside expertise but about giving them the basic information tools so that they can fend for themselves, build their own networks and internetworks in their own style with their own goals.
The MOU with Libya includes building wireless infrastructure, some of which will be planned with the help of experts from other countries. Of course, it is essential to train local experts as quickly as possible. Such initial training can be done in English or French almost anywhere in the world, certainly including Libya, Nigeria, and Brazil. From that point on, the local experts can train further local experts in whatever language they find convenient. --Mokurai 18:14, 9 November 2006 (EST)

Government Co-Ordination

What exactly does the OLPC do when it coordinates with the governments?

Price

To many of us in "developed" countries, $100 sounds remarkably cheap, but to many living in these other countries (for example, Thailand and Cambodia), $100 is still very far out of reach. Is it foreseen at all that the price may continue to drop as production numbers increase?

Yes. The OLPC is a not-for-profit organization, so there is no reason to hold the price at $100. I believe, however, that the price will not be able to drop below $100 until late 2007/early 2008. --SamatJain 13:53, 8 August 2006 (EDT)

Your idea is an inspired solution to many problems of education. Making it for every child on the planet, while an assume task, is right because no mater whether it is Tucson or Timbuktu few, if any, libraries contain the wide spectrum of information that the internet provides. I, as a child, never got the opportunity to remain in the libraries as long as I wanted. There was always many more things I wanted to explore that time did not allow. Now with the internet I can stay in the library as long as I like. You will give each child that same opportunity to stay in the library as long as they like or until their mom says different. I feel the cost of the machines and software will be far below one hundred dollars once China becomes involved. You have chosen a worthy project to spend your time. I pray for the completion of you goals because you already are a success. My vision of the possibilities is staggering.

Production will be in Taiwan.--Mokurai 02:23, 13 October 2006 (EDT)
Strictly speaking, production is in China, but the manufacturer is based in Taiwan Ben 00:35, 31 October 2007 (EDT)

I want to know if someone(anyone) will can buy this laptop(for development or just for personal use reasons) and, if yes, how can I get 1 of these(for development in my case).(daxohara at gmail.com)

Not yet.--Mokurai 02:23, 13 October 2006 (EDT)
Soon you will be able to, via G1G1 Ben 00:35, 31 October 2007 (EDT)

Can you help me to put an OLPC machine into a unique environment

I am a developer who will soon be teaching computers at a school[2] for approx 200 Karen refugees age 6-16. Duration 3 months starting late Sept.

I am happy to see the announcement of 500 laptops for Thailand, where these kids live. Due to their often illegal status they won't be the lucky school. However the school does have dsl access to the internet shared by 6 winxp desktops. I will be bringing in 2 laptops (osx powerbook, linux thinkpad) and an 802.11 transmitter.

Literacy is mixed across Karen, Burmese, and Thai. Most students are seeing computers for the first time. However there are a small group who are familiar with the net and instant messaging. I expect all will be seeing macos and linux for the first time.

I'm hoping you can help me to put one olpc machine into the network at the same time. Perhaps I can be a guinea pig for the Ask_OLPC_a_Question#Teacher_training topic. I think part of the solution will be to not distinguish teachers from students. What is needed is a wiki where anyone can teach them self.

I hope for it to offer an opportunity to observe olpc's uptake relative to macos and linux. If there is interest in gathering data I'm willing to record it, to the extent it doesn't interfere with student learning. I am willing to pay for the machine myself. I am open to suggestions on how to make better use of this opportunity to benefit the students or olpc.

Cariaso 00:19, 17 August 2006 (EDT)


Sales force

How can I contact the company for a job selling the contracts to the various education centers around the world? I speak 4 languages and would love to help seed this product to help increase the education around the world. Please advise. Alex

We have no sales team and do not plan to create one. --Walter 11:18, 25 August 2006 (EDT)

I am part of a volunteer project in Nicaragua that takes the information and telecomunication technology to poor children with not any access to it. We visit educational institutions, churches and social assistance NGOs and spend a couple of hours helping children to get familiar with the PC and strengh their educational process. Our goal are those groups of children who do not have access to technology so we need to get a stock of computers to be use in every visit. Can OLPC computers be requested in small quantities? and When do you think to supply NGOs directly instead of using governmental institutions?

OLPC says that after the initial rollout of five million units to governments, it plans to think about what quantities are practical, and who else might be involved. This should be in the summer of 2007. --Mokurai 06:16, 7 November 2006 (EST)

Research opportunities?

I am conducting PhD research at the University of London on media literacy. Who can I contact to inquire about conducting field research in Libya as part of the olpc rollout process? --User:Cbrauer

There will be a research mailing list set up soon. Send me your email address and I will add you to it; or keep an eye on the mailman lists. Sj 09:51, 9 November 2006 (EST)

Grant Opportunity?

Hi, I am a Fourth grade teacher in Southern Indiana. We are a technologically underdeveloped school and recently realized this alarming fact. We discussed how technology, such as familiarity with computers and resources available on them would benefit our students. Is there a possibility to become a test school for this program and if so, how do I sign our school up? If not, could I write a grant in the future for the benefit of our kids? I love the idea that these laptops would go to other countries, but would also love for American children to have the opportunity to use the B1 as well. Thank you for your wonderful work and the promise that it shows. (By the way, american children would love helping to buy computers for children in other countries.)

Contact me. I can connect your children with a class in another country via e-mail, chat, and Webcam. --Mokurai 07:05, 21 November 2006 (EST)

Enlisting as Volunteer

Good day: I am a MIS instructor at the University of Delaware and would like to enlist myself as a volunteer educator to bring this technology to other countries. I would like to organize a service learning program (BTW all Univesity of Delaware must now do to graduate) that would help to bring these computer to third world countries and then offer students a chance to interact and train other students who may have never even heard of the word computer. My email address can be found in this edition. I would appreciate a quick note in return to sse if this is feasible! Thank you!

I would suggest sending an email to the volunteer account in Contact OLPC.
I removed your email address to avoid spam—hopefuly ;) --Xavi 07:56, 27 April 2007 (EDT)

NGO facilitation?

I work for an NGO that operates in several potential recipient countries. I'm interested in exploring what opportunities might exist to synergize our efforts with the OLPC project, but I'm not sure of the best way to approach it. Is this sort of thing facilitated somewhere around this wiki? I've done some looking, but haven't found much yet. If not, I'd like to be part of creating something that speaks to this perhaps in conjunction with someone who's more involved in the project already. -Bnardone 15:02, 21 November 2006 (EST)

I currently am involved in several projects in the developing world where access to these devices would help to precipite a revlution in learning / e-Learning. What is the scope for checking on recipients for eligibility ? is the operation just happening at high level ministry of education or could we imagine sourcing the machines on a project by project basis ?

Tariff barriers in receiving countries

What, if any, tariff and/or non-tariff barriers does OLPC see encountering in bringing this program into these impoverished countries?

None. The laptops are purchased by national ministries of education for deployment. This close relationship to national lawmakers makes tariff barriers unlikely. Such barriers are normally only put in place to protect local manufacturing and if the issue did arise, the OLPC would work with local manufacturers to produce local versions of the laptop. On first glance it seems that the People's Republic of China is the only country where this might be an issue.

Integration with educational strategies

What plans have been made so far to map the applications into a teaching curriculum, i.e. how are you going to help teachers and families use them in an educationally beneficial manner? What ongoing plans do you have for this?

The core functionality of the laptop is an ebook library. We do not feel that it is necessary to tell teachers how to use books in their curriculum. But overall, these laptops are being deployed in conjunction with ministries of education. These are the people who develop the curricula, hire and train the teachers, and so on. We may advise them and do advise them, but in the end, all curriculum decisions are not ours to make.

,=== How can the COUNTRY of LIBERIA become involved in distribution in that country? === EDEN FOUNDATION PROJECT, INC. The Eden Foundation Project is a non-profit entity. We are a "grassroots" organization composed of Liberians and African Americans as well as several other country's women and men. Our members of the project are all christian and hold "our service to others as the rent we pay for our room here on earth". Eden Foundation Project, Inc. is registered with the Liberian Government to service the children through education and computer literacy; it is incorporated here in the United States. The Eden Foundation has built a "Childern's" Library in Parker Paint, Paynesville, Monrovia Liberia. Through donations from churches, school children and individuals in the United States over 3 years. We have over 6,000 books in the Library; more books than the University at this time. Please forward me an address or email to obtain information to become a part of the OLPC program. Thank you for your time. Sincerely, Yaa Asantewaa Nzingaa Board Chair, Eden Foundation Project, Inc.

As stated in Ask OLPC a Question#How can a country get involved?, it's the country itself that must get involved, in other words, the government. You can try contacting OLPC, but unfortunately in the first deployment stages NGOs & charities are not currently eligible, maybe in the near future. I would suggest lobbying the Liberian government officials about the project so that they make contact with OLPC. Xavi 23:27, 26 August 2007 (EDT)

Thank You So Much!

Does OLPC have a protocol for lobbying Government Officials? Which official is the most influencial to contact? We will be traveling to Liberia in November 2007 and hope to take a few Laptops and Desk tops with us. Fortunately the Library has a couple of generators. I have been searching the table of contents of articles and the archives to locate the Ask OLPC question# you mentioned...do you know the #? Peace, Yaa, Eden Foundation Project, Inc.

[ Give 1 Get 1] for Europe

Are you planning on making the November offer for people in Europe? Or Asia, Africa, South America, Australasia, Central America/Carribean islands...? Ideally before Christmas 2007?

It's not hard to find places that will provide a USA mailing address for people outside the USA.
that is in no way a proper answer what so ever

I have searched everywhere on the OLPC site to find the answer to this question, but to no avail. I live in Britain and would love to take advantage of the G1G1 offer and I would like to pass the information on to others who could benefit from testing out this laptop for disadvantaged kids here. I would even be happy to pay the extra postage. Can someone from OPLC please make clear who in the world this offer is available to. Thanks!

There are also comments on this at Talk:Give 1 Get 1, including a lot more speculation and the closest I've seen to an official answer (but no, still no official answer).
In case the OLPC people miss the question here, you might also try sending it to webmaster@grong-site[xogiving-org]. Hopefully the answer will eventually be posted on the [*invalide* - xogiving.org /faq.html frequently asked questions page] there, as several people have asked about sales outside of North America. However, the fact that they explicitly mention a restriction to North America on the [*invalide*- xogiving- org/ front page of the G1G1 site] leads me to believe that the answer is "no". —Joe 20:02, 10 October 2007 (EDT)
This "explicit" mention has now gone from the official site. Does that mean a change in policy?
Was there ever even a policy? The complete lack of information is making me suspect that OLPC assume that the only people who use the internet and buy computers are the "white American (i.e. US) geeks" they refer to on the official news blog, and the mysterious peoples of the distant land of Ka-Na-Da.
The explicit mention is still there on the front page of the XOGiving site: "Starting November 12, One Laptop Per Child will be offering a Give 1 Get 1 Program for a brief window of time in North America." The blog you cite is not official, which is why it bills itself as "an independent source of news".
There is some irony in calling the OLPC U.S.-centric when their only customers to date have been foreign governments. I am not affiliated with the program, but the impression I get is that the OLPC was never intended to do individual sales ("it's an education project, not a laptop project"), so the current swell of interest in individual sales has caught them by surprise. Three months ago, the best hope any individual consumer anywhere had of getting an XO was to wait until 2008 when Quanta would perhaps sell similar machines directly. Now, the Give-One-Get-One program is available—perhaps because it is the fastest way of gauging actual interest and satisfying demand. The program may be North America-only now, but I think it should be viewed as a positive step: the G1G1 program is purely in response to public interest, so if there is similar interest abroad they may offer a similar program there. And they have to start somewhere—the fact that they are starting where it is easiest shows that maybe they will make G1G1 available as it becomes feasible, rather than waiting until they figure out how to distribute it in all countries before distributing it in any. I agree that the lack of news is frustrating, but I expect we'll see a lot more information in the next two weeks (and, of course, the core OLPC people are extremely busy with the initial rollout, which understandably has a much higher priority for them than individual sales). —Joe 11:29, 8 November 2007 (EST)
A lot of more collaborations will happen if the Europeans can get their hands on these machines. Is the price not related to volume of sales?

T-Mobile and the Laptop

My laptops arrived last night. It was my understanding that complimentary 1 year T-Mobile access information was to come with the laptops. Is this program still in effect and how do I get the information code for the T-mobile access?

According to the Support FAQ, more info will be e-mailed to donors shortly. —Joe 16:48, 18 December 2007 (EST)


A Word To The Wise

At least one person has reported an ordering problem here (see below). I ordered our OLPC via Give1Get1 online late November 07 and received it about 30 days later (US). I hadn't seen the recommendation below and did not contact OLPC ... the ordering process worked smoothly.

'After ordering within the first 25 min of the initative, I've been waiting anxiously to receive the unit. I called to try and get more specific info to be told that, even though a payment was processed and deducted from my account, there was no record of my order anywhere in the system. I now have to wait 2-3 days to be contacted by a supervisor to begin sorting this mess out. This means that, regardless of my effort to act as quickly as possible AND being one of the first responders, there is no way I'll be receiving the unit in the Dec window. I HIGHLY recommend that you contact OLPC to verify your order even if, like me, they had no trouble charging you the money for it.'
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