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Unu Enciklopedio Por Junulo

How much interest has there been in your Esperanto OEPC effort? I'm willing to offer what little help I can, so if you have anything in particular that needs to be done, just say the word.

I was also thinking a Project Page on Vikipedio like the one that the English Wikipedia has, would be useful. --Tomas SATIRLSEY

hey! let's have coffee....

Hi sj -- my friend Delisile mentioned you were working here, and I just haven't gotten around to saying "hello"

I'm now the director of the Cambridge Peace Commission, and I'd love to catch up -- and see if there are any areas for collaboration or working together. My schedule is pretty flexible, and I'm happy to come to Kendall....

Peace, Brian (Bcorr 00:16, 12 September 2008 (UTC))

Sorry about the delay -- was in Philadelphia for a few days. What about Dado Tea on Church St. in Harvard Sq.? I could do it next Monday or Tuesday morning (9/22 or 9/23) or the following week any morning except Wednesday .... Bcorr 14:45, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for your welcome message. Greetz JoGnet 17:15, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

user rename

I just noticed this:

(User rename log); 17:31 . . Sj (Talk | contribs) (has renamed User:Fucking idiot to User:Fid: 10 edits. Reason: )

"Fid" is a nice username. It's a shame to make it unavailable. If you must rename, something like u154970135 would be a good choice.

IMHO there is no need though, since nobody is going to go digging through the list of users. 18:14, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

hi SJ,

Honestly, I was never an admin at NWE, so it'll be new. I just made templates or fixed templates that wasn't working. For vandalism, I could check recent changes and catch one, or if you are developing a bot, I can vandalize on purpose to see if the bot will catch it. Am I already an admin now? It'll be great if you can post me something like welcome to OLPC but for admins so I could read how to use my powers :P. --Hiro 12:19, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Hi SJ, ok no problem. Is there something specific you will like for me to work on? I wish the main page could be changed to be more... easily viewed instead of bunch of links, but I wouldn't be able to design it from scratch. Just thought I'll throw in the idea. Are there pages that need clean up or with broken templates? Feel free to let me know. --Hiro 17:17, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
Hi again, is this a vandalism or is it there on purpose? Special:Contributions/ I'm talking about what this user did btw. Is there a specific place I could report all this? --Hiro 18:34, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
Ping :) --Hiro 17:58, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Hi SJ!

I'm Prakhar Agarwal. I recently took my GRE exam to pursue Master's in US. I was really waiting for my certificate. I have to send a copy of that certificate to many universities. I wish if I could talk to you regarding that. Cheers! -- Prakhar 14 September 2008

wiki adminship

this was a surprise, cuz I didn't know I'd been nominated. the wiki admin pages are the only parts of the wiki that I usually ignore! i'll strive to use my new powers for truth, justice adn the American OLPC way ;-) AuntiMame 00:15, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

en alianza - in py

Re game jam Peru

sure, I can come..pls see your email! User:RafaelOrtiz

Bot account created

User:AuntieMameBot created. AuntiMameBot 23:55, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

TOC/heading question

On a page like Sugar Almanac in a section like Sugar Almanac#Package: sugar how would we link to the headings on Sugar.env? --erikb

I'm not sure quite what you want to do. The TOC comes from the {{Sugar Almanac TOC}} template... which is long and can't easily be compressed into that three-line section for the sugar Package. Can you explain which headings you want to link to? the same ones that are currently in Sugar Almanac#Package: sugar, but with a different format? --Sj talk 22:26, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

I would like to create a new TOC which can list the headings on different pages. For example, in this new TOC, I would like to list all of the subheadings on linked-to pages.


Can I provide a TOC with a list of pages and have the wiki automatically list the subheadings on those pages? We would like to see all of the Almanac's answered questions on one page.


Any ideas or pointers? Thanks -- jedierikb


I am new to the OLPC wiki. I was assigned to prepare a Deployment guide for OLE Nepal. I created the page but I don't know if it meets the standards of the OLPC wiki. Could you take a look and leave suggestions at the talk page. Thank you. Pradosh 05:36, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

Checking up

Hi SJ,

I recently made an application for some development laptops through the contributors' program, which I understand was approved. I was hoping to get started soon and just wanted to check if the laptops have been sent and if not when I could expect them.


Gerry Healy

I'll be leaving Nepal in June 2009 so I have some time constraints to work on the Dhading project. I have had delays at my own end also, but for it to be realistic in this time frame. I need some development machines soonish. I may be able to borrow some from OLE. Would that be a better option? Nickel chrome 11:03, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

There's no problem getting them from us -- check back next week on the status of your machines. You might consider applying for a Nepali contributors-pool as well. 20:27, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Health Content Poster

Hello SJ,

Not sure if this is already taken care of, but I'm writing about the health content poster post in the Art Wanted section. If you're still looking for contributors/helpers, please let me know. I'll be glad to help.

Best wishes,

--Gabriel -- 21:20, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Bundles vs. collections

These days there are

  • Activities, .xo files which show up in the Home view
  • Collections, .xol files which show up in the OLPC Library.

So I think Category:Activity_bundle should only be for the .xo file put on , not for the wiki page it comes from.

I'm not sure what Category:Bundles is for.

all bundles, activity, library, generic. --Sj talk

Also, Category:Activity_bundle says:

Activites that provide a .xo bundle should declare so ...

but I thought all Activities provide a .xo file.

If you define it that way, then this is true. That's probably clean; it leaves items such as individual etoys projects in limbo until they are packaged.

BTW, I'm adding all Collections I find to Category:Collections and it seems other categorizations of them are redundant.

Which other categoriations? That category should itsefl be in Category:Bundles. Thanks for the update! --Sj talk 18:52, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

??! -- skierpage 11:33, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

in case you miss it in chat

[2] :) -- phoebe

Decisions about Projects

The workflow for new projects is not clear to me. Who decides about a project and how often? AFAIC decisions are made on weekly meetings, but my project has not been touched in the projectdb for 5 weeks. And why are projects hidden in the projectdb? If there is nothing happening for weeks someone else might submit a similar project, or even the same. This is a duplication of work for both the submitters and the decision makers. Is there a way to make the process more transparent? --Cwickert 14:09, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

the plan is to move the whole thing, minus the sharing of address/phone info at the end, to the wiki and projects page. --Sj talk 14:42, 17 December 2008 (UTC)


What are the official channels for development related communication? #olpc and #olpc-help were not very helpful because noone was able to answere my questions. #olpc-devel is orphaned. Also I wonder if editing wiki pages is a good way for direct one on one communication. Isn't there something else if I wanted to reach you? --Cwickert 14:09, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

You can use #olpc-devel in -- that just chanegd irc networks. 20:25, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Postal address

Please mention yours on your page - not everyone has email. Thanks!! --Arjs 14:11, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Activity web pages vs. Projects/ subpages

Hey sj, as I wrote I wrote Maintaining activity web information.

If activities remain on w.l.o and use the [Edit with form], anyone can make a lists of activities that stays up-to-date instead of messing with templates and fragments and transclusions. See Activity queries. To me, this is clearly the way forward.

But there's a lot of stuff I don't understand.

  • Many activities also have an Activities/Name page that's got an ugly summary template. Often it's a link to Projects/Name, e.g. Activities/Etoys. I believe these are confusing and redundant. Can I delete them? If not, is there an explanation of what these pages are for?
  • Creating an activity has buttons to Create activity summary and [Create an activity]. I don't understand why there are two buttons and I don't think either is an appropriate template for an activity. What should an activity's page look like?
  • Some of the Projects/ subpages aren't activities, e.g. Projects/Translation_dictionary is a collection. What are/were you trying to achieve with Projects/ subpages? I see references to a projects DB, is there such a thing?
    • If you want to make a list of projects e.g. on the Projects page, semantics are the way to do it.
    • So I'm not sure if all the project template machinery is redundant. I don't know whether to mark it obsolete or update it to set semantic properties.
  • Is any clean-up and improvement on w.l.o irrelevant if activities are moving to ?!

Like so many areas on, I see the results of an idea but not the plan for it, so I'm not sure how to improve on it.

Thanks for any elucidation!

-- skierpage 00:08, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Mail of Jan 30, 2009

Please be so kind as to answer to the mail I sent you on January 30th, 2009.

--Cwickert 15:43, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

User_talk: page message notifications

Hi Sj, I'm having trouble finding information on the implementation of the notification service that generates a orange-spanned message on my current page when a new message on my talk page is saved. Any pointers would be appreciated.

I'm actually thinking about this in relation to a possible utility to generate small message flags that would appear on main pages on the border of sections that have corresponding talk_page comments (configured by the commenter to match an anchor placed on the main page section.) --FGrose 00:51, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

Now I see. It's a good idea... some hacking would be required. --Sj talk 03:44, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Your OLPC Map on Google Maps, how do we collaborate in it?

I wanted to but couldn't figure out how to add the location of The Elaine and Nicholas Negroponte School Location of School Province:Preah Vihear District:Rôvieng Commune:Rôssmei Village:Trâpeang My father is visiting my wife's (she's an adopted Cambodian living in Brussels Belgium) Parents. My father created - Teachers without Frontiers and I'm on the pay-roll of] - --SvenAERTS 09:45, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Invitation/Brandeis/Social Justice and Technology Conference

Dear Mr. Klein,

Charles Nesson suggested I be in touch with you. The International Center for Ethics, Justice, and Public Life at Brandeis University is hosting a conference called TMI (Too Much Information): Social Justice in the Age of Facebook on September 10 and 11, 2009. We would like to invite you to speak at the main session on September 11 from 9-11 am, "Does Digital Deepen the Divide?" We believe that you, with your role at One Laptop Per Child, would present a unique and valuable perspective on the question of technological access for children internationally, and whether access to new technologies and computers helps bridge the divides among individuals and societies, or whether it increases the gaps.

I would love to talk to you further about this conference and give you additional detail. Can you contact me at I look forward to speaking with you soon.

Best, Stephanie Gerber Wilson, PhD Brandeis University

Thank you for the invitation. I've responded via email. --Sj talk

Template:test-case-query question

Greetings SJ,

I'm slowly getting familiar with semantic+mediawiki in an effort to determine if this will meet my needs. I'm using the QA pages as a reference for sample queries, forms and templates. However, I'm stuck trying to understand a particular problem where mediawiki will not expand a nested template properly using the {{fullurl:...}} parser function.

As one of the original authors of the Template:Add-test-result and Template:Test-case-query pages, I thought you might have insight to this mediawiki-ism. This is likely a new-user problem, but any experiences you can share around the SMW implementation for would be appreciated. You can see the page that currently is presenting difficulty at I can be reached at jlaska AT fedoraproject DOT org. I hope to hear from you soon :)

Thanks, James

I don't think you can embed parser functions the way you were trying to. But the extension is coming along quickly - you should drop a question at the SMW central wiki for the most accurate answer. --Sj talk 05:40, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Everything works again

Thank you, dear Samuel and OLPC-Team --Papillon 20:34, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Counter does not work

Since Saturday 8/1/09 the counter does not work. Now it is not possible to see how many users has been accessed the pages. I’m not sure but I think all pages have the same problem --Papillon 10:43, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

OLPCO2e, et al

Hi Sven,

I was cleaning up the wiki this morning and found all of the CO2 pages, which blossomed over the spring. There were about 12 pages which all had the same content, ... so I merged them (without the use of any gang :) into OLPCO2e. Sj talk 13:00, 8 December 2009 (UTC) I cannot find the page: OLPCO2e link Agenda 21 anymore. How can I recuperate it? It is a very important page for all in OLPC and OLPCO2e. Thanky--SvenAERTS 11:20, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

I also replied - but on my talk page - on your other paragraphs. This tool notifies you of that or do I just have to mention and you go there and have a look then or I have to do like above and copy/paste parts- topic per topic - to copy/paste here in your User talk page? Do I have to Watch this page? How are these "message" alerts being activated? Ty --SvenAERTS 11:20, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

Adminship thanks

thanks for the nomination. Whatever happens, I'll try and behave to expectations... --Martinlanghoff 14:26, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

Why did you move Academic Papers, SJ?

I don't believe we discussed that. As the one who started that page, I'd like to know. Thanks. Image:red.png Yamaplos 02:56, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

It was duplicating half of its refs with the other assessments/research page. I moved both of them to a new title where they were merged. Feel free to subdivide in some logical fashion, as long as the duplication of records/papers is resolved cleanly. --Sj talk 21:52, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
Thanks, Ed Cherlin tried already, and we ended up with some stuff getting moved to Sugarlabs. IMHO it's better to have things mostly together. Hopefully something really good shows up eventually that we can really wave as a banner. I'm waiting for Nepal's research, hopefully soon (announced for August)

Information case studies

Searching for FAQ. Was it easy? How do we identify frequent users, and how do we service them better?

How do we take advantage of having everything here?

Related topics. Policies and guidelines for our official material.

Menu system for officially monitored pages. (not just categories - Lynn)

--Sj talk 19:20, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

Parent Education Course Writer's Guide

Are you interested in parent education courses for the OLPC? I'm about to release my book in Germany (print on demand) and would allow inclusion of the second edition into an OLPC distribution or library, but currently not yet under Creative Commons Attribution/Share-Alike. The first edition is available under Creative Commons Attribution/Share-Alike, though. --Bernhard Fastenrath 13:15, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

What a lovely idea! I would love to add this to a collection of books (preferably available in html...). --Sj talk 09:44, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
I can offer wiki format and XSL-FO. Conversion to HTML and PDF should be trivial. Help yourself. --Bernhard Fastenrath 11:35, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
I'm still working on the translation of the latest version to English. I'll let you know when the translation is available. --Bernhard Fastenrath 12:39, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
The translation of the free version is finished and you can find it on Wikibooks. I've added some more content from the published version. The published version will be available on request (but the translation isn't finished yet). --Bernhard Fastenrath 14:15, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

note from user:mmassey

I'd like to meet tomorrow am to brainstorm action items for locating existing photos.


Photo meeting

SJ, Let's meet tomorrow to discuss strategy for locating existing photos. -Mike


How to Convert video to iPhone 4 on MAC” is an ad, and has nothing to do with OLPC or XO. ■ NeoAmsterdamTalkEdits2010-07-01T11:16:25Z

I agree. I deleted it before. This time I shall remove the text of the page and protect it. SJ: I've no idea if there is a better thing to do. --Quozl 22:37, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

Note from user:GJavetski

Finally getting how this works! Just updated my talk page to include a summary of my remaining time (what a silly phrase) at OLPC. Thanks again for your help!

Collab Conundrum

Hi Sj. I just answered your question on my talk page, which reminded me of a wiki collaboration conundrum I was thinking about earlier that maybe you can help with. Presumably the only way you would know I replied to your question is either if you watch my talk page, in which case you also get emailed whenever anyone else talks to me, which you may not want, or to remember to go back and check. This works fine for small numbers of conversations, but I am preparing to look across the whole wiki and may want to talk to all sorts of people. Are you aware of any ways of doing this that allow email updates but keep it relevant to the conversations I am in? The only way I can think of at the moment is to invite people in to my talk page and hold all the conversations there. Do you have a better suggestion?

Often the responder posts to the questioner's talk page, out of politeness. For longer discussions, it's helpful to use liquid threads, an extension we could turn on - that should let you subscribe to a single thread. --Sj talk 16:26, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
So how do liquid threads work? Does it use the :: notation to detect a thread? I think it could be very useful for people in general. I would think that during a deployment you might come up with all sorts of questions that you fire off on different wiki talk pages and you are probably so busy solving problems its difficult to manage all the Q&A you are processing... so if liquid threads can help then lets consider it. Who would be involved in that decision? Do you know what the other implications are... i.e. if there are any down sides to turning liquid threads on?
Great. Thanks. I'll take a look. Get back to you tomorrow with thoughts.
So how do liquid threads work? Does it use the :: notation to detect a thread? I think it could be very useful for people in general. I would think that during a deployment you might come up with all sorts of questions that you fire off on different wiki talk pages and you are probably so busy solving problems its difficult to manage all the Q&A you are processing... so if liquid threads can help then lets consider it. Who would be involved in that decision? Do you know what the other implications are... i.e. if there are any down sides to turning liquid threads on?
See for a site that uses them extensively. Once a talk page is converted to liquid threads, you can't convert back without 'losing' the link to the threads that were created. --Sj talk 17:03, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
Great. Thanks. I'll take a look. Get back to you tomorrow with thoughts. --Mark.Burnett 17:07, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
I just had a look. It looks much more intuitive as well as being more functional. I think we should turn it on. What do you think? What next? <--- I proposed this on the Cafe. Please add your comments there. --Sj talk 20:52, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for starting the ball rolling on the cafe. I see it has several entries now already. I've added my views from a functional perspective but do need to rely on you and others to confirm that it technically makes sense. Thanks for your help Sj.

Review of approach and updates to the wiki

Hi Sj, As you know I am working on Improving the Deployment Toolkit. As part of this I think its important that what is done here is repeatable, so I have also created a Deployment Guide/Creating a new release process, which I plan to follow and evolve during the course of this project with the idea being that others could then do the same the next time there are enough new lessons learned, or enough new XO technology to merit another refresh of the guide. For the same reason I am also creating pages for Interview scripts to help people working on refreshing the guides get the most out of the lessons learned in the field.

It would be useful to have one or two people within OLPC who I could use as a sounding board to sanity check that what I am doing makes sense and also to review new content added to the wiki or plans for restructuring as described in the Draft Deployment Guide before we finally take all of that and create a new version of the Google Doc.

From your role as described on your wikipedia talk page, it seems like you should be one of those people. Do you agree? Do you have time? And can you suggest anyone else?

-- Mark.Burnett 12:53, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

You're welcome, but I should be thanking you

since I was his major target. Though who knows how many others would eventually get the same treatment. -- Davewa 20:10, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

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