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== Talking to SJ == |
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=== support === |
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* find people at UChicago who care about OLPC |
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** sponsorship! |
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* Google Chicago are good friends :) |
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=== bootcamps === |
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(we will go over this during the first week or two of summer) |
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* introduce people to OLPC |
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* introduce them to the XO |
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* how to set up a local group |
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** networking |
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** project support |
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* hardware hacking |
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== Mel's ideas == |
== Mel's ideas == |
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=== people === |
=== people === |
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[[user:mchua|Mel]], [[user:Nlee|Nlee]], [[user:andreatl|Tank]], Chris |
[[user:mchua|Mel]], [[user:Nlee|Nlee]], [[user:andreatl|Tank]], Chris Carrick. |
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Others: IMSA? Chicago grassroots people? |
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'''Tank''' : are you going to be with us this summer? |
'''Tank''' : are you going to be with us this summer? |
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=== Funding === |
=== Funding === |
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'''Stipends''' (Mel would like to pay people... and wouldn't mind breaking |
'''Stipends''' (Mel would like to pay people... and wouldn't mind breaking even herself, although that's far less important) |
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even herself, although that's far less important) |
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* Rent |
* Rent |
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* Van |
* Van |
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'''Sponsors''' |
'''Sponsors''' |
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* Josh Gay has offered help/contacts from Chicago-local FSF folks |
* Josh Gay has offered help/contacts from Chicago-local FSF folks |
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* The person who writes grant proposals for IMSA has offered |
* The person who writes grant proposals for IMSA has offered mentorship, editing, and introductions to grant-granters, but says it's much easier to do this as a nonprofit (more on this in a sec) |
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* (Very Bad) Backup Plan: "Mel's Life Savings" (...as a buffer, while grants/donations haven't come in yet) |
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mentorship, editing, and introductions to grant-granters, but says it's |
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much easier to do this as a nonprofit (more on this in a sec) |
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* (Very Bad) Backup Plan: "Mel's Life Savings" (...as a buffer, while |
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grants/donations haven't come in yet) |
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=== Legal structure === |
=== Legal structure === |
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* Easier to get contributions/donations |
* Easier to get contributions/donations |
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*: but not for small contributions, and it takes a year or so to take effect |
*: but not for small contributions, and it takes a year or so to take effect |
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* Especially if the low-cost laptop bill passes and this becomes a |
* Especially if the low-cost laptop bill passes and this becomes a statewide effort |
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statewide effort |
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* On the other hand, bureaucracy and paperwork sucks |
* On the other hand, bureaucracy and paperwork sucks |
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* Mel would like to avoid it, but is torn b/c long-term planning is |
* Mel would like to avoid it, but is torn b/c long-term planning is good and it's not ''that'' big a deal to set up a nonprofit |
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good and it's not ''that'' big a deal to set up a nonprofit |
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::: My advice : work under an umbrella first, worry about incorporation and then nonprofit status later. |
::: My advice : work under an umbrella first, worry about incorporation and then nonprofit status later. |
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Nonprofit umbrella? see Software Freedom Conservancy' (SFC) and |
Nonprofit umbrella? see Software Freedom Conservancy' (SFC) and |
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'Software in the Public Interest' (SPI) and similar |
'Software in the Public Interest' (SPI) and similar |
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* Should there be a nonprofit umbrella for OLPC grassroots groups in |
* Should there be a nonprofit umbrella for OLPC grassroots groups in the US in general, similar to one of the umbrella orgs above? |
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the US in general, similar to one of the umbrella orgs above? |
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* These are all good ideas. There are general nonprofit umbrellas. |
* These are all good ideas. There are general nonprofit umbrellas. |
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=== Location === |
=== Location === |
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* Kathryn Satewicz introducing us to '''Boys and Girls clubs''' about renting cheap/free office space for summer in exchange for teaching a mini-boot-camp at their location (win-win) |
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* Kevin Crews talking to his dad, who owns an office building, about the possibility of free space for a few months |
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cheap/free office space for summer in exchange for teaching a |
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mini-boot-camp at their location (win-win) |
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* Looking at Evanston-area tech incubators (problem: expensive. solution: nicely-worded letter.) |
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** Kevin Crews talking to his dad, who owns an office building, about |
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* local companies/schools/libraries/orgs etc have offered their spaces for meetups, but this is not a good long-term solution |
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the possibility of free space for a few months |
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** Looking at Evanston-area tech incubators (problem: expensive. |
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solution: nicely-worded letter.) |
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Still very in flux... need lots of help, ideas, advice. what rent can we afford? |
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** local companies/schools/libraries/orgs etc have offered their spaces |
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for meetups, but this is not a good long-term solution |
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** Still very in flux... need lots of help, ideas, advice |
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** biggest problem: what rent can we afford? |
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* Van/mobile office |
* Van/mobile office |
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** one of the biggest arguments for going nonprofit or under a nonprofit |
** one of the biggest arguments for going nonprofit or under a nonprofit umbrella (so an individual doesn't have to take personal responsibility/liability for a vehicle) |
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umbrella (so an individual doesn't have to take personal |
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responsibility/liability for a vehicle) |
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** yay craigslist - for less than $2k Mel can get a van from NYC or Boston |
** yay craigslist - for less than $2k Mel can get a van from NYC or Boston |
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** also looking at used vans from rental car agencies |
** also looking at used vans from rental car agencies |
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** goes: freakin' everywhere |
** goes: freakin' everywhere |
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* Supplies |
* Supplies |
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** need XOs (asking for ~50), should look for a local pilot that wants |
** need XOs (asking for ~50), should look for a local pilot that wants them and can pay for them and will loan them to us for the summer in exchange for setup help. |
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** should we start purchasing XOs off eBay? (Mel would rather not, at that quantity) |
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them and can pay for them and will loan them to us for the summer in |
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** we have a lovely library, or the beginnings of one - kindly donated by O'Reilly |
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exchange for setup help. |
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** school server; Mel would like to have one, trying to persuade Chicago people to work on one |
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** should we start purchasing XOs off eBay? (Mel would rather not, at |
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that quantity) |
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** we have a lovely library, or the beginnings of one - kindly donated |
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by O'Reilly |
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** school server; Mel would like to have one, trying to persuade Chicago |
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people to work on one |
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* "hiring," quote-unquote |
* "hiring," quote-unquote |
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** do we need any legal status to be able to 'hire' interns, even unpaid |
** do we need any legal status to be able to 'hire' interns, even unpaid ones? |
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ones? |
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** if not, let's not do it |
** if not, let's not do it |
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** if so, start paperwork now... or convince someone to let us be an |
** if so, start paperwork now... or convince someone to let us be an umbrella under them |
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umbrella under them |
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* teh interwebs |
* teh interwebs |
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** ilxo.org (name; less chicago-centric, there's a whole state out |
** ilxo.org (name; less chicago-centric, there's a whole state out there. we will be mostly in the chicago area though) |
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there. we will be mostly in the chicago area though) |
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** chicagolpc.org - office (subset of ilxo; just an url) |
** chicagolpc.org - office (subset of ilxo; just an url) |
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** turtlemobile.org - van (subset of ilxo right now; just an url - if |
** turtlemobile.org - van (subset of ilxo right now; just an url - if successful could expand but not counting chickens atm) |
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successful could expand but not counting chickens atm) |
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Ok, that was the boring stuff. Now |
Ok, that was the boring stuff. '''Now for the fun part''': |
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local support is high! |
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* people are super-excited! holy cow were local people at PyCon psyched and really want to do this |
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** high! |
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* IMSA and MVCC going nuts with activity, plans for summer |
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** super-excited! |
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** hosting Jam (MVCC) after Larry's 2-week programming class for teens |
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** holy cow were local people at PyCon psyched and really want to do this |
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** off-grid power research (IMSA) and who knows what else |
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** IMSA and MVCC going nuts with activity, plans for summer |
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*** hosting Jam (MVCC) after Larry's 2-week programming class for teens |
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people with contacts to legislators in IL left and right |
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*** off-grid power research (IMSA) and who knows what else |
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*** people with contacts to legislators in IL left and right |
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** including ChiPy, PyCon people, programming book authors, CS teachers |
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willing to volunteer time and help teach and train at OLPC events (but |
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not organize events themselves, at this time...) |
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* support from |
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** google (incl. at least one dev who wants this to be 20% time) |
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** chipy (many members, at least - will try to make this a little more |
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formal) |
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** imsa (institutionally - current president of imsa == former state |
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superintendent of education, and he's *insanely* cool and *loves* OLPC) |
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** mvcc (institutionally) |
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** students/profs from U of C, U of I, probably others |
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** members of the IL legislature (big fans!) |
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** many, many other companies, parents, hackers, students, etc. from the |
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area |
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** brightstar, presumably? at least they're nearby and they work with |
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olpc at the moment... no contact from the /hat{grassroots} direction |
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though, yet - don't think we're comfy making that contact without |
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"permission" from 1cc |
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* the low-cost laptop bill |
* the low-cost laptop bill |
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** YAY! |
** YAY! |
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** olpc-chicago list rocketing off on getting support in the legislature |
** olpc-chicago list rocketing off on getting support in the legislature |
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** what can we do to help? |
** what can we do to help? |
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* local support: |
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** including ChiPy, PyCon people, programming book authors, CS teachers willing to volunteer time and help teach and train at OLPC events (but not organize events themselves, at this time...) |
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** google (incl. at least one dev who wants this to be 20% time) |
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** chipy (many members, at least - will try to make this a little more formal) |
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** imsa (institutionally - current president of imsa == former state superintendent of education, and he's *insanely* cool and *loves* OLPC) |
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** mvcc (institutionally) |
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** students/profs from U of C, U of I, probably others |
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** members of the IL legislature (big fans!) |
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** many, many other companies, parents, hackers, students, etc. from the area |
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** brightstar, presumably? at least they're nearby and they work with olpc at the moment... no contact from the /hat{grassroots} direction though, yet - don't think we're comfy making that contact without "permission" from 1cc |
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* activities |
* activities |
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** personal projects (off-grid power, accessibility, ?) |
** personal projects (off-grid power, accessibility, ?) |
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** getting other grassroots groups started |
** getting other grassroots groups started |
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** getting pilots started |
** getting pilots started |
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** getting all of the above to be independent - explicit sunset clause |
** getting all of the above to be independent - explicit sunset clause at end of april (people can restart/continue then if they wish, but we're setting up so other groups can become strong enough that we can go away and let them run themselves) |
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** boot camps - for students who want to start OLPC chapters in their schools/communities |
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at end of april (people can restart/continue then if they wish, but |
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we're setting up so other groups can become strong enough that we can go |
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away and let them run themselves) |
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** boot camps - for students who want to start OLPC chapters in their |
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schools/communities |
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*** local libraries offering to provide classroom space |
*** local libraries offering to provide classroom space |
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*** imsa-olpc student wants to intern and TA these classes; working out |
*** imsa-olpc student wants to intern and TA these classes; working out details now, currently unpaid - so that could work out nicely |
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details now, currently unpaid - so that could work out nicely |
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* relationships w/ other olpc stuff |
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relationships w/ other olpc stuff |
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** can we hang out and learn at 1cc first (possibly part of 2nd) week of |
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* Plan ahead of time : '''pilot mini boot-camp''' at 1cc first (possibly part of 2nd) week of june |
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** what do you want us to accomplish |
** what do you want us to accomplish |
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** what makes a good grassroots group |
** what makes a good grassroots group |
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** any restrictions/constraints or at least strong suggestions? |
** any restrictions/constraints or at least strong suggestions? |
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** what is the relationship between olpc the organization and olpc |
** what is the relationship between olpc the organization and olpc grassroots groups? |
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grassroots groups? |
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** what resources does olpc have that we can take advantage of? |
** what resources does olpc have that we can take advantage of? |
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* meaning of life? |
* meaning of life? |
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== Summer == |
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The general gist of this is to figure out what we're doing for the summer; completely undirected hopping around won't accomplish much. So, what are we up to? |
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=== People involved === |
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* [[User:Mchua|Mel]] |
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* Chris Carrick |
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* [[User:Nlee|Nikki]] |
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* Tank |
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Others: |
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* IMSA? |
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* Chicago grassroots people? |
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=== Purpose and projects === |
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What is the function of a grassroots office? What are our goals? What should our goals be? |
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* continue working on repairs and hardware training |
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** XO hacking? |
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** repair jams? |
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* grassroots outreach |
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** local mentoring |
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** support of projects |
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=== Organization === |
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What do we want? What do we need? |
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=== Timeline === |
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uhm. |
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== Other random notes == |
== Other random notes == |
Latest revision as of 01:27, 24 March 2008
Talking to SJ
support
- find people at UChicago who care about OLPC
- sponsorship!
- Google Chicago are good friends :)
bootcamps
(we will go over this during the first week or two of summer)
- introduce people to OLPC
- introduce them to the XO
- how to set up a local group
- networking
- project support
- hardware hacking
Mel's ideas
meta
0. Mel is hosed feel free to act and don't worry about
people
Mel, Nlee, Tank, Chris Carrick.
Others: IMSA? Chicago grassroots people?
Tank : are you going to be with us this summer?
- Do you need housing?
- Stipend?
- Any other equipment/requests/accomodations?
- What do you want to do?
Funding
Stipends (Mel would like to pay people... and wouldn't mind breaking even herself, although that's far less important)
- Rent
- Van
- Class supplies
Sponsors
- Josh Gay has offered help/contacts from Chicago-local FSF folks
- The person who writes grant proposals for IMSA has offered mentorship, editing, and introductions to grant-granters, but says it's much easier to do this as a nonprofit (more on this in a sec)
- (Very Bad) Backup Plan: "Mel's Life Savings" (...as a buffer, while grants/donations haven't come in yet)
Legal structure
Do we need it at all in the first place?
- probably not just for the summer, but OLPC Chicago might consider setting up at least a bank account.
Incorporate as nonprofit?
- Not necessarily now
- Tax deductible yay!
- this really isn't as interesting as it seems
- Easier to get contributions/donations
- but not for small contributions, and it takes a year or so to take effect
- Especially if the low-cost laptop bill passes and this becomes a statewide effort
- On the other hand, bureaucracy and paperwork sucks
- Mel would like to avoid it, but is torn b/c long-term planning is good and it's not that big a deal to set up a nonprofit
- My advice : work under an umbrella first, worry about incorporation and then nonprofit status later.
Nonprofit umbrella? see Software Freedom Conservancy' (SFC) and 'Software in the Public Interest' (SPI) and similar
- Should there be a nonprofit umbrella for OLPC grassroots groups in the US in general, similar to one of the umbrella orgs above?
- These are all good ideas. There are general nonprofit umbrellas.
Piggyback w/ existing nonprofit org?
- OLPC itself?
- a school? which?
Location
- Kathryn Satewicz introducing us to Boys and Girls clubs about renting cheap/free office space for summer in exchange for teaching a mini-boot-camp at their location (win-win)
- Kevin Crews talking to his dad, who owns an office building, about the possibility of free space for a few months
- Looking at Evanston-area tech incubators (problem: expensive. solution: nicely-worded letter.)
- local companies/schools/libraries/orgs etc have offered their spaces for meetups, but this is not a good long-term solution
Still very in flux... need lots of help, ideas, advice. what rent can we afford?
- Van/mobile office
- one of the biggest arguments for going nonprofit or under a nonprofit umbrella (so an individual doesn't have to take personal responsibility/liability for a vehicle)
- yay craigslist - for less than $2k Mel can get a van from NYC or Boston
- also looking at used vans from rental car agencies
- ugly van + rustoleum ---> pretty van! (a-la ian bicking's car)
- Also saves us plane fare from Boston to Chicago
- contains: staff, XOs, XS, EE equipment, library
- goes: freakin' everywhere
- Supplies
- need XOs (asking for ~50), should look for a local pilot that wants them and can pay for them and will loan them to us for the summer in exchange for setup help.
- should we start purchasing XOs off eBay? (Mel would rather not, at that quantity)
- we have a lovely library, or the beginnings of one - kindly donated by O'Reilly
- school server; Mel would like to have one, trying to persuade Chicago people to work on one
- "hiring," quote-unquote
- do we need any legal status to be able to 'hire' interns, even unpaid ones?
- if not, let's not do it
- if so, start paperwork now... or convince someone to let us be an umbrella under them
- teh interwebs
- ilxo.org (name; less chicago-centric, there's a whole state out there. we will be mostly in the chicago area though)
- chicagolpc.org - office (subset of ilxo; just an url)
- turtlemobile.org - van (subset of ilxo right now; just an url - if successful could expand but not counting chickens atm)
Ok, that was the boring stuff. Now for the fun part:
local support is high!
- people are super-excited! holy cow were local people at PyCon psyched and really want to do this
- IMSA and MVCC going nuts with activity, plans for summer
- hosting Jam (MVCC) after Larry's 2-week programming class for teens
- off-grid power research (IMSA) and who knows what else
people with contacts to legislators in IL left and right
- the low-cost laptop bill
- YAY!
- olpc-chicago list rocketing off on getting support in the legislature
- what can we do to help?
- local support:
- including ChiPy, PyCon people, programming book authors, CS teachers willing to volunteer time and help teach and train at OLPC events (but not organize events themselves, at this time...)
- google (incl. at least one dev who wants this to be 20% time)
- chipy (many members, at least - will try to make this a little more formal)
- imsa (institutionally - current president of imsa == former state superintendent of education, and he's *insanely* cool and *loves* OLPC)
- mvcc (institutionally)
- students/profs from U of C, U of I, probably others
- members of the IL legislature (big fans!)
- many, many other companies, parents, hackers, students, etc. from the area
- brightstar, presumably? at least they're nearby and they work with olpc at the moment... no contact from the /hat{grassroots} direction though, yet - don't think we're comfy making that contact without "permission" from 1cc
- activities
- personal projects (off-grid power, accessibility, ?)
- getting other projects started
- getting other grassroots groups started
- getting pilots started
- getting all of the above to be independent - explicit sunset clause at end of april (people can restart/continue then if they wish, but we're setting up so other groups can become strong enough that we can go away and let them run themselves)
- boot camps - for students who want to start OLPC chapters in their schools/communities
- local libraries offering to provide classroom space
- imsa-olpc student wants to intern and TA these classes; working out details now, currently unpaid - so that could work out nicely
relationships w/ other olpc stuff
- Plan ahead of time : pilot mini boot-camp at 1cc first (possibly part of 2nd) week of june
- what do you want us to accomplish
- what makes a good grassroots group
- any restrictions/constraints or at least strong suggestions?
- what is the relationship between olpc the organization and olpc grassroots groups?
- what resources does olpc have that we can take advantage of?
- meaning of life?
Other random notes
- meet Greg Smith and invite him to get involved with Olin chapter
- go through repair center meeting notes