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Ok, this discussion is becoming a bit more useful... |
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An SKU is a particular build including keyboard, power adapter, and |
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exact components used to build the system). |
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In short, the more SKU's necessary, the higher the cost (and risk of |
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OLPC losing its shirt). |
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There are a number of issues here, all intertwingled: |
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1) whether keyboard designs exist. |
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2) whether those keyboard designs have ever actually been produced, and |
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therefore the tooling is paid for already (so we might be able to make |
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another SKU at less delay and cost than when we have to actually do a |
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new keyboard from scratch). |
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3) whether said designs will be "good enough" for a different market |
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than initially intended. Note that language != keyboard design: |
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Portugal uses a very different keyboard than Brazil). |
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3) lead times to produce new keyboard designs (and demand for those), |
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and how to pay for the tooling |
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4) whether whomever we work with for G1G1 fulfillment is able/willing to |
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undertake to ship multiple SKU's, and how we'll deal with power plug |
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requirements. |
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5) number of different SKU's needed to cover what populations of what |
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size, and being able to predict volumes for that population accurately |
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enough to forecast the demand (and not lose your shirt). Note that |
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conventional keyboards on conventional laptops are replaceable easily; |
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this means if you get the forecasting wrong, at worst, you replace |
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keyboards and ship to different geographies. That's not true for us. |
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If we make a mistake, we can't necessarily do anything to ship the |
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laptops elsewhere, and we already have at least one example of this |
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having happened (and a stack of machines in a warehouse, waiting for the |
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day that keyboard is needed). |
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6) regulatory requirements to ship into a given country, which may |
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include power plug type, any printed material, localization |
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requirements, and possibly keyboard layouts. |
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So while I can't hold out hope of *anything* beyond US international |
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before any analysis is done, if someone wants to start gathering |
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information more systematically into a wiki page, that would be good, so |
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that decisions might be based on some data, rather than no data.... |
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- Jim |
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On Wed, 2008-06-11 at 09:04 -0500, Yama Ploskonka wrote: |
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> > Could someone wikifi all this, please? |
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> > Sorry I cannot volunteer. |
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> > |
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> > "Keyboards" page, or "G1G1 desired keyboard layouts", maybe better. |
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> > |
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> > Might help other people get involved, and help carry the point across to |
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> > OLPC G1G1 decision makers... |
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> > |
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> > BTW, there's some keyboard layouts around, the one in the Bolivia wiki |
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> > page has the current Spanish keyboard in the borrowed B4 I have been |
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> > using, so they did make localized keyboards at some point, and of course |
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> > they are doing so for Uruguay and Peru I should guess, and I wonder |
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> > what's happening in Colombia, and especially Haiti... |
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> > |
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> > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Spanish_Keyboard |
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> > |
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> > Yama |
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> > |
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> > Holger Levsen wrote: |
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>> > > Hi, |
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>> > > |
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>> > > I've done some research... |
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>> > > |
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>> > > On Tuesday 10 June 2008 21:22, Edward Cherlin wrote: |
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>>> > >> German Germany |
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>>> > >> German Austria |
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>> > > Those two are the same, there is no german-austrian keyboard. (confirmed by an |
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>> > > Austrian.) |
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>> > > |
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>>> > >> German Switzerland |
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>> > > This one is different from the "standard" german layout. (confirmed by a swiss |
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>> > > person.) |
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>> > > |
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>>> > >> French Switzerland |
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>> > > |
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>> > > This one is different from the "standard" french layout. (confirmed by a swiss |
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>> > > person.) |
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>> > > |
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>>> > >> Italian Switzerland |
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>>> > >> Italian Italy |
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>> > > Those are the same, or rather, there is no italian-swiss keyboard, they use |
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>> > > the "standard" italian keyboard. (confirmed by a swiss person.) |
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>> > > |
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>>> > >> and then we can discuss Belgian (French and Flemish/Dutch) |
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>> > > |
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>> > > Yup. Belgians (whether flemish or french speaking) use belgium AZERTY |
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>> > > keyboards (which are different from french AZERTY keyboards), while dutch |
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>> > > people use dutch qwerty keyboards. (dutch and flemish are very similar |
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>> > > languages...) (info from a person from Belgium) |
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>> > > |
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>>> > >> Catalan (Spain) |
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>> > > |
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>> > > There are no catalan keyboards (or other regional keyboards in spain), they |
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>> > > all use spanish keyboards. (puh.) (confirmed by several spanish persons.) |
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>> > > |
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>> > > |
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>> > > HTH, |
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>> > > Holger |
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> > _______________________________________________ |
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> > Localization mailing list |
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> > Localization@lists.laptop.org |
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> > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/localization |
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-- Jim Gettys <jg@laptop.org> One Laptop Per Child |
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