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: If the laptop is $100 within the project and were to raise $100 to fund another one for a child in the developing world, that makes $200. Yet there are then distribution costs, wholesaler's markup and retailer's markup, including markup so that service departments can be set up. With a one-off launch for a few weeks, such as for a charity recording of a song, businesses may give up their markups so that every penny goes to the charity, yet for a long-term project of selling the laptops to help to fund the OLPC project there may well need to be allowance for the markups so that it is sustainable. Another problem, which maybe could be a huge problem, is that while OLPC is solely distributing laptops to children in the developing world there is potentially scope for goodwill over what is happening and exceptions to people enforcing legal rights about trade happening. However, if the laptops have a place in developed world markets, then legal rights about trade may well be enforced. So maybe the marketing needs to be that the retail price without any subsidy is first worked out, then the laptop is actually retailed at just above the retail price of commercial laptops, with the difference going to OLPC to fund more laptops for the children. So, this could work out at "buy one - give two free" or "buy one - give two point seven free" or whatever. In that way, someone buying an OLPC laptop would be paying more than the cheapest commercial competitor would cost, so, and I am not a lawyer and know very little about the law in this area, and the law may well be different in various countries, it might be that that policy would allow sales in the developed world without any legal problems. Does that sound reasonable? |
: If the laptop is $100 within the project and were to raise $100 to fund another one for a child in the developing world, that makes $200. Yet there are then distribution costs, wholesaler's markup and retailer's markup, including markup so that service departments can be set up. With a one-off launch for a few weeks, such as for a charity recording of a song, businesses may give up their markups so that every penny goes to the charity, yet for a long-term project of selling the laptops to help to fund the OLPC project there may well need to be allowance for the markups so that it is sustainable. Another problem, which maybe could be a huge problem, is that while OLPC is solely distributing laptops to children in the developing world there is potentially scope for goodwill over what is happening and exceptions to people enforcing legal rights about trade happening. However, if the laptops have a place in developed world markets, then legal rights about trade may well be enforced. So maybe the marketing needs to be that the retail price without any subsidy is first worked out, then the laptop is actually retailed at just above the retail price of commercial laptops, with the difference going to OLPC to fund more laptops for the children. So, this could work out at "buy one - give two free" or "buy one - give two point seven free" or whatever. In that way, someone buying an OLPC laptop would be paying more than the cheapest commercial competitor would cost, so, and I am not a lawyer and know very little about the law in this area, and the law may well be different in various countries, it might be that that policy would allow sales in the developed world without any legal problems. Does that sound reasonable? |
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Let's assume, for the purpose of this discussion, that sales would be direct (e.g., Internet-based), and that shipping/handling costs would be added to the price. An existing online vendor might be willing to take this on at a low markup, because of the publicity, social benefit, etc. This leaves the legal issues you raise, however. |
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Revision as of 15:38, 3 June 2006
Rollout and Community Building Ideas
Common Rooms idea
When a specific problem area is identified where we need to get a community together to discuss possible solutions, let's set up a wikipage as a Common Room. For instance, to discuss Font issues, create a wikipage named Font Common Room.
Ideas
Note that there are several common mechanisms for "supporting" internationalization and localization; the most common being gettext, which makes use of template files. We are looking into the use of an emerging standard, xliff, that supports more than just translation of strings and is generally both more robust and extensible. Of course, all of this presumes that there is someone to do the trsanslation or localization of images, etc. --Walter
When you refer to the localization of images, what does that mean please?
For example, if someone authors some learning material in English, and the laptop project wants copies in, say, Spanish and Portuguese, does localization of images refer to all images or only those where there is some text in the image?
Would use of the full stop lock and key technique in the following article help, with an initial master diagram, with no text upon it, being prepared and then the English version as a layout example.
http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~ngo/pai04100.htm
The Spanish and Portuguese versions of the text could be supplied in text files and someone skilled in preparing images, though not necessarily a linguist, could use the master diagram and the text from a text file, and, guided by the layout example, produce a localized image.
If someone wanted that done, the request could be made in the Artwork Common Room.
However, I am wondering whether I am missing something here and wonder whether localization of images implies more, even perhaps far more, than what the above suggestion would provide.
In relation to the localization of images, could someone possibly supply an example image and such other information as is necessary (for example, some text in two or more languages) for someone who is learning the system to try localizing please? That could perhaps be a valuable learning experience in trying to build an infrastructure of how learning material authors, people doing translations and people who can produce images can interact so as to produce learning material localized into a number of languages.
The following article could perhaps help with some characters, such as those from Unicode code points of U+0100 and greater.
http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~ngo/pai04200.htm
William Overington
28 March 2006
Localization Common Room idea
Suppose that someone, whose native language is English, is interested in producing learning material which could be used on the laptop in various countries once that learning material is localized into the local language, yet that person knows only a little of languages. There are many languages into which content would need to be localized.
In that one needs to start somewhere I have thought that an approach which might be worth trying, in the context of rollout and community building, would be to have such pages in this wiki as a "Common Room" type environment where people who can write in at least one of English, Spanish and Portuguese and people who can write in two or more of those languages, can interact and observe what happens.
For example, there are various language translation packages, both as programs for PCs and as web utilities. Yet what is the quality of translation? Can a system evolve whereby someone can, say, prepare something in English and then it be machine translated into, say, Spanish, then both the original and the clearly designated machine translated version placed in the Localization Common Room and then maybe someone who knows Spanish can read it through and correct it as necessary and comment?
This may or may not be workable in practice. If it is workable, then maybe it could be part of the community building infrastructure.
William Overington
24 March 2006
English, Portuguese and Spanish Localization Common Room
Here is a link to such a Localization Common Room and we can observe what, if anything, happens with it.
http://wiki.laptop.org/wiki/English_Portuguese_and_Spanish_Localization_Common_Room
Artwork Common Room idea
It would be useful to have an Artwork Common Room where a learning material author who needs an illustration file to include in a document which he or she is authoring can go and request that such an illustration be produced.
People interested in the laptop project who are not learning material authors yet who are interested in producing illustrations to support learning material authored by others could also go there and find a project.
Company Sponsored Software/Other Creative Projects Writing Scheme
small entries, the best of which win small monetary prizes, after all that is what the majority of people work for, its not for the love. This would have two effects it would get company's interested in the project and the students who are learning to use these laptops. It would show these students and their families the direct relation between them learning IT and other skills and the outside world.
Small pilot for all countries, all languages, all age and all climates
see Pilot_Projects
Avoiding misusage
Limiting the user's age
Corruption is a major problem in most parts of the 'third world'. We may not asume that governements are reliable partners. On a first clue I had the idea to avoid misuse of the OLPC by means of biometrical data. Only humans under (let's say) 25 years may be able to turn it on. This could be carried out by a sensor which scans the childs hand. It would rise the price but corruption and egoism is the reason why development aid fails.
Open source developers may tend to overestimate the goodwill of governments. Bringing 1M laptops to China or Brazil has nothing to do with success as long as they don't reach their destination. Financing and technology is one side. Psychology is the other.
- The current model of the OLPC already has biometrical capability built-in. Here's how it can be exploited. Children and teenagers are capable of hearing higher frequencies of sound than adults. If a program asked for a key to be pressed when the sound is heard and let go when the sound stops, then you could have a challenge response system. It would ask for a random number between 2 and 5 keystrokes. The length of each keystroke and the length of the pause between them would vary randomly between 1 and 4 seconds.
Economic Models
Retail Sale
By allowing retail sale of the laptops, at (say) twice the quantity price, the project could (a) build community, (b) encourage developers, and (c) subsidize the wholesale units. At $250 each, quite a few first- and second-world sales might be possible...
- If the laptop is $100 within the project and were to raise $100 to fund another one for a child in the developing world, that makes $200. Yet there are then distribution costs, wholesaler's markup and retailer's markup, including markup so that service departments can be set up. With a one-off launch for a few weeks, such as for a charity recording of a song, businesses may give up their markups so that every penny goes to the charity, yet for a long-term project of selling the laptops to help to fund the OLPC project there may well need to be allowance for the markups so that it is sustainable. Another problem, which maybe could be a huge problem, is that while OLPC is solely distributing laptops to children in the developing world there is potentially scope for goodwill over what is happening and exceptions to people enforcing legal rights about trade happening. However, if the laptops have a place in developed world markets, then legal rights about trade may well be enforced. So maybe the marketing needs to be that the retail price without any subsidy is first worked out, then the laptop is actually retailed at just above the retail price of commercial laptops, with the difference going to OLPC to fund more laptops for the children. So, this could work out at "buy one - give two free" or "buy one - give two point seven free" or whatever. In that way, someone buying an OLPC laptop would be paying more than the cheapest commercial competitor would cost, so, and I am not a lawyer and know very little about the law in this area, and the law may well be different in various countries, it might be that that policy would allow sales in the developed world without any legal problems. Does that sound reasonable?
Let's assume, for the purpose of this discussion, that sales would be direct (e.g., Internet-based), and that shipping/handling costs would be added to the price. An existing online vendor might be willing to take this on at a low markup, because of the publicity, social benefit, etc. This leaves the legal issues you raise, however.
Science fiction which might possibly provide a few ideas
The eutotokens of learning
Some years ago I tried writing some science fiction, science fiction in the tradition of putting forward ideas for the future in a story setting which could potentially work.
Most of what I produced is on the web.
http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~ngo/euto0000.htm
The items on the web are from 1997 and 1998 and time has passed since then. Some of the basic ideas in the stories are quite possibly entirely different from what is intended for this laptop project: for example, learning packages funded by advertising revenue, though the problems that that mode of working produces in the story might be of interest. So, I am mentioning the story here not as the definitive way to produce community building yet in the hope that maybe some of the ideas might be helpful in devising an opportunity creating infrastructure.
William Overington
15 March 2006
Would the idea of the optolabe be of use?