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:::But when you solve and you address and you work on all of those problems nobody I know would say: "By the way, let's hold off on education." The reason you don't do that is because education happens to be a solution to all of those same problems." --[http://www.olpctalks.com/nicholas_negroponte/ Nicholas Negroponte] |
:::But when you solve and you address and you work on all of those problems nobody I know would say: "By the way, let's hold off on education." The reason you don't do that is because education happens to be a solution to all of those same problems." --[http://www.olpctalks.com/nicholas_negroponte/ Nicholas Negroponte] |
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==Power Consumption== |
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This information appears to be misleading but could easily be cleared up: |
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"Assuming 2000 hour use per computer per year at the low end of power consumption (idle-mode), and an average 3 year lifetime, 87 billion kilo-watt hours are used to power the world’s personal computers per year. If every personal computer was replaced by an OLPC XO laptop, just 1.5 billion kilo-watt hours would be needed: thus 85 Billion kilo-watt hours could be saved." |
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I tried to sort out the calculation and came up with a power consumption of 3.3 watts. A previous calculation using a 16.5 watt-hour battery capacity divided by the 3 hour operating duration cames up with 5.5 watts of power required... Something seems off. The statement above could be cleared up by listing the assumed average PC power consumption vs. the assumed OLPC power consumption. |
Revision as of 03:13, 19 January 2008
Does it make sense to add discussion of food and/or recharge facilities to Environmental Impact? If the laptop battery is recharged using muscle power, it will also impact the food a child needs. A simple conversion assuming a 90% efficient charging cycle and 15% efficient human food to muscle power conversion results in 105-140 calories of food required for each laptop recharge. Extra calories used due to thinking more aren't included! --MWarren 20:15, 5 December 2007 (EST)
NiMH | LiFePO4 | |
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Wh | 16.5 | 22.0 |
cal | 14187.4 | 18916.6 |
kcal (aka food Calories) | 14.2 | 18.9 |
charge cycle efficiency 90% | 15.8 | 21.0 |
human food to muscle work conversion efficiency 15% | 105.1 | 140.1 |
- One of the reasons why the solar option is so appealing. --Walter 21:11, 5 December 2007 (EST)
- Also, even in the 3rd world, a majority of children have some play room between the calories they consume and the physical work they are expected to do. If they don't, a laptop is really not what they need anyway, and probably not what anybody would give them, to boot. Homunq 22:01, 5 December 2007 (EST)
- Hopefully the children do have some extra play room; the issue of food and/or recharge facilities seemed like another good topic for this page. Here is how Dr. Negroponte responded to the laptop vs. food question in an OLPC Analyst Meeting:
- "...Why give laptops to kids who are dying of hunger, malaria, who don't have clean water?"
- The answer to that question is very simple, just substitute the word "education" for "laptop" and you'll never say it again. Because, clearly, if a child is dying of hunger that child needs food right then and there. Education is not on .. it's a separate thing.
- But when you solve and you address and you work on all of those problems nobody I know would say: "By the way, let's hold off on education." The reason you don't do that is because education happens to be a solution to all of those same problems." --Nicholas Negroponte
- --Mwarren 13:28, 6 December 2007 (EST)
Power Consumption
This information appears to be misleading but could easily be cleared up:
"Assuming 2000 hour use per computer per year at the low end of power consumption (idle-mode), and an average 3 year lifetime, 87 billion kilo-watt hours are used to power the world’s personal computers per year. If every personal computer was replaced by an OLPC XO laptop, just 1.5 billion kilo-watt hours would be needed: thus 85 Billion kilo-watt hours could be saved."
I tried to sort out the calculation and came up with a power consumption of 3.3 watts. A previous calculation using a 16.5 watt-hour battery capacity divided by the 3 hour operating duration cames up with 5.5 watts of power required... Something seems off. The statement above could be cleared up by listing the assumed average PC power consumption vs. the assumed OLPC power consumption.