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:: That would not be a problem at all. I often use Squeak on machines far more limited than the OLPC (like a 200MHz Pentium MMX with 32MB of RAM).--[[User:Jecel|Jecel]] 18:48, 29 May 2006 (EDT)
:: That would not be a problem at all. I often use Squeak on machines far more limited than the OLPC (like a 200MHz Pentium MMX with 32MB of RAM).--[[User:Jecel|Jecel]] 18:48, 29 May 2006 (EDT)

== Quirk: Squeak 3.8 has no clean Unicode support ==

/me guesses Unicode is mandatory (Santiago Gala) - [http://minnow.cc.gatech.edu/squeak/857 Unicode status in Squeak].

Squeak does reasonably good Unicode support. The educational environment is translated different languages, including Western- and Eastern- European languages, Korean, Japanese, etc. While UTF-8 has nothing special about "Localization and Universal Access", Squeak's internal encoding is Unicode-based (more like UTF-32). (Yoshiki Ohshima)


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== Difference between Squeak and EToys? ==

I'm confused as to what the difference between Squeak and EToys is. Is EToys just the OLPC version of Squeak for use in Sugar or are they completely seperate programs? The EToys section of the squeakland website is just a bunch of games that were made by kids and reading the pages on the olpc wiki didn't really clarify either; it seems like EToys is a version of Squeak to me.

:: Etoys is a media authoring environment built on top of Squeak, but both terms are sometimes used to mean the same. Squeakland is the version of Squeak and Etoys tailored for educational use. Etoys on the OLPC is derived form the Squeakland version. -[[User:Bert|Bert]] 18:03, 18 July 2007 (EDT)

This might not make any sense because I'm so confused I have no idea what I'm talking about, but if I want to write things for EToys without Sugar up and running do I just use Squeak?

:: You can use the Squeak VM for your favorite platform and the Etoys image from OLPC. See article. -[[User:Bert|Bert]] 18:03, 18 July 2007 (EDT)

edit: also, I can't get the squeak plugin to work in firefox, does anyone know if it's possible, and if so how to do it?

:: It is definitely possible. The download at squeakland is not always up to date, try http://impara.de/~jens/ubuntu/ -[[User:Bert|Bert]] 18:03, 18 July 2007 (EDT)

Latest revision as of 22:03, 18 July 2007

Cons

Bulky?
Will it be able to run in the available hardware?
That would not be a problem at all. I often use Squeak on machines far more limited than the OLPC (like a 200MHz Pentium MMX with 32MB of RAM).--Jecel 18:48, 29 May 2006 (EDT)

Quirk: Squeak 3.8 has no clean Unicode support

/me guesses Unicode is mandatory (Santiago Gala) - Unicode status in Squeak.

Squeak does reasonably good Unicode support. The educational environment is translated different languages, including Western- and Eastern- European languages, Korean, Japanese, etc. While UTF-8 has nothing special about "Localization and Universal Access", Squeak's internal encoding is Unicode-based (more like UTF-32). (Yoshiki Ohshima)


Who:

Difference between Squeak and EToys?

I'm confused as to what the difference between Squeak and EToys is. Is EToys just the OLPC version of Squeak for use in Sugar or are they completely seperate programs? The EToys section of the squeakland website is just a bunch of games that were made by kids and reading the pages on the olpc wiki didn't really clarify either; it seems like EToys is a version of Squeak to me.

Etoys is a media authoring environment built on top of Squeak, but both terms are sometimes used to mean the same. Squeakland is the version of Squeak and Etoys tailored for educational use. Etoys on the OLPC is derived form the Squeakland version. -Bert 18:03, 18 July 2007 (EDT)

This might not make any sense because I'm so confused I have no idea what I'm talking about, but if I want to write things for EToys without Sugar up and running do I just use Squeak?

You can use the Squeak VM for your favorite platform and the Etoys image from OLPC. See article. -Bert 18:03, 18 July 2007 (EDT)

edit: also, I can't get the squeak plugin to work in firefox, does anyone know if it's possible, and if so how to do it?

It is definitely possible. The download at squeakland is not always up to date, try http://impara.de/~jens/ubuntu/ -Bert 18:03, 18 July 2007 (EDT)