User talk:Mark.Burnett

If you'd like to talk about ways of improving the Deployment Guide or have suggestions for the project I'm working on to do that then please leave me a message below by clicking on the + above and I will get back to you as soon as I can. If you add three tilda's (~~~~) to your note then it'll make it easier for me to see who you are and reply to you. Thanks!

Mark.Burnett

Suggestion

PippaThomas 10:41, 8 September 2010 (UTC)Hello Mark, will there be links to the budget calculation tools in your Deployment Guide?

Yes Pippa, we will be providing links to the new spreadsheets for download and also we will be updating the google doc version of the deployment guide. Mark.Burnett 10:47, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

Plan

Nice work on the deployment toolkit! You note that "the plan is maintained by Mark.Burnett We are aiming to complete this work by the end of November 2010." - can you include a link to that work, or is it private? --Sj talk 12:51, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

Thanks Sj. None of the work is private. We are working in the wiki to be as open and collaborative as possible so that people can get benefit from what we are doing straight away and also to make sure others get a chance to contribute or review our work. The plan itself is just an MS Project version of the Approach, which I am developing at the moment. I'll put a high level version in the wiki showing key milestones once its complete. I also added references to all the new sections we will be creating in the Deployment Guide talk page to invite discussion. --Mark.Burnett 13:03, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

Collab conundrum

Hi Sj. I just answered your question on my talk page, which reminded me of a wiki collaboration conundrum I was thinking about earlier that maybe you can help with. Presumably the only way you would know I replied to your question is either if you watch my talk page, in which case you also get emailed whenever anyone else talks to me, which you may not want, or to remember to go back and check. This works fine for small numbers of conversations, but I am preparing to look across the whole wiki and may want to talk to all sorts of people. Are you aware of any ways of doing this that allow email updates but keep it relevant to the conversations I am in? The only way I can think of at the moment is to invite people in to my talk page and hold all the conversations there. Do you have a better suggestion?

Often the responder posts to the questioner's talk page, out of politeness. For longer discussions, it's helpful to use liquid threads, an extension we could turn on - that should let you subscribe to a single thread. --Sj talk 16:26, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

So how do liquid threads work? Does it use the :: notation to detect a thread? I think it could be very useful for people in general. I would think that during a deployment you might come up with all sorts of questions that you fire off on different wiki talk pages and you are probably so busy solving problems its difficult to manage all the Q&A you are processing... so if liquid threads can help then lets consider it. Who would be involved in that decision? Do you know what the other implications are... i.e. if there are any down sides to turning liquid threads on?

See http://strategy.wikimedia.org for a site that uses them extensively. Once a talk page is converted to liquid threads, you can't convert back without 'losing' the link to the threads that were created. --Sj talk 17:03, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

Great. Thanks. I'll take a look. Get back to you tomorrow with thoughts. --Mark.Burnett 17:07, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

You can also start a discussion about this at the new Cafe... --Sj talk 17:03, 8 September 2010 (UTC) See my current discussion there, please comment. --Sj talk 20:56, 11 September 2010 (UTC)