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My list of places where student and educator input results in new software being developed for the XO or XS.


== Pages I Manage ==

[[Releases| Overview of OLPC Releases]]

[http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_Process_Home Overview of How We Build Software]

http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Deployments

== Shipment Quantities and Languages ==
Taken from Devel list thread: <br>
http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2008-July/016073.html

In order to help focus which translations are high priority for this
release, I have listed the languages we are shipping to today and
expect to ship to in the next 4-6 months. They are in size order:

Spanish (Peru, Uruguay, Mexico), 200k <br>
Mongolia, 20k (10k now, 10k by end of year) <br>
French (Rwanda), 10k (5k now, 5k in late fall)<br>
Kreyol (Haiti), 13k (6k now, 7k later)<br>
Amharic (Ethiopia), 5000<br>
Khmer (Cambodia), 1000<br>
Dari (Afghanistan), 3000 (1k now, 2k later)<br>
Thai, 500<br>
Devanagari, 500<br>
Portuguese (Brazil), 200<br>
Arabic, ~500<br>

Receiving laptops in the next 3-6 months:<br>
Oceania, 500<br>
Italy, 600<br>
Turkey, 15k<br>
Senegal (French), 1000<br>
Argentina, Equitorial Guinea, Panama (Spanish)<br>

Not included:<br>
Birmingham, South Carolina, NY (because they are English) and
deployments that got US/Eng keyboards that weren't big enough to
designate the shipping location.<br>

== How to Install Language Pack ==
Stored here temporarily until I find its real home [[User:Gregorio|Gregorio]] 17:06, 28 July 2008 (UTC) <br>

1. Start up Terminal Activity <br>
2. Click on "Become root" button on the top <br>
3. Issue the command <br>

wget http://dev.laptop.org/~sayamindu/langpacks_v2/8.2/es_lang_pack_v2.sh

Assuming that you are connected to the internet, this will download
the pack to the XO
4. Execute the command "sh es_lang_pack_v2.sh" (without the quotes) to
install the pack
5. Restart sugar with the ctrl-alt-backspace keypress

From: http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/localization/2008-July/001288.html

== User experience, input, ideas and blogs ==

[http://lumiere.ens.fr/~guerry/olpc.php Haiti deployment leads home page]

[http://flickr.com/photos/olpc Pictures]

[http://iridescentlearning.org/joomla/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=16&Itemid=30 India Trail Lessons]

[http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Category:Aplicaciones_de_Actividad_News_Reader News Feeds from Spanish Speaking Countries]

[http://olpcnyc.wordpress.com/2008/06/23/ilt-evaluates-olpc/ NYC School Report]

[http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Peru/Arahuay OLPC Report on XO Roll Out in Arahuay]

[http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Galadima Galadima Nigeria Pilot]

[http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_India/Khairat_school India Pilot]

[http://ucpn.cl/ Chile Un Computador Por Nino page] <br>

[http://olpc-ceibal.blogspot.com/ Ceibal Blog] <br>
Uruguay pilot blog.

[http://www.olenepal.org/ Great feedback from Nepal!] <br>
See especially the blog for details on technical configuration, challenges and strategy.

[http://www.waveplace.com/ Detailed feedback and reports from XO deployment in the Carribean] <br>
Sign up for their superb newsletter too and make a contribution to keep this feedback coming in.

[http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Peru OLPC Wiki on Peru] <br>
Input from Peru. See Actualizaciones de Perú section for two reports and check back as this site is being built by a teacher in Peru.

[[South Bronx Teacher Feedback]]

[http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Uruguay Uruguay Main Wiki Page]

[http://colombiaolpc.org/ OLPC Colombia Web site]

[http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Colombia Colombia team in OLPC Wiki]

[http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Peru Peru OLPC Wiki page] <br>
Make sure to click on the Lambayeque link. Good details there!

[http://www.ceibalflorida.blogspot.com Uruguay Teachers Blog] <br>
Active as of April 2008

[http://waqastoor.weblog.pk Blog from Pakistan]
by Waqas Tor

Main Pakistan page: <br>
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Pakistan

[http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC-Bangalore Home site for Bangalore]

Ethiopia <br>
http://wiki.laptop.org/images/2/23/Ethiopia_ecbp_Pilot_Project_CONCEPT_v0.5.pdf <br>
http://wiki.laptop.org/images/9/97/Ethiopia_ecbp_Pilot_Project_IMPLEMENTATION_v0.5.pdf <br>
http://www.eduvision.ch/en/meta/documents/ethiopiareport_080227a-mh.pdf <br>

'''Ask OLPC a Question: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Ask_OLPC_a_Question'''
Long list of incoming questions. Lots of sub links to questions asked and some answered. I'll extract and categroize relevant links soon. Mostly questions from people wanting to help the project or get a laptop.

IXO's blog: http://ilxo.org/blog/?p=56

=== Priorities from Carla ===
1. Touch pad

2. Mesh working reliably and easily

3. Fast and reliable. That it doesn't crash or freeze. That it doesn't take long to open an activity or to do something within an activity.

4. Internal Clock is not reset, so the activation is lost.

5. File management. Guarantee that everything they work on is saved –and/or backed up– and never lost. Allow users to have only one file open when working on the same document/program (unless the users specify another modality). Permit that they can easily backup in a USB stick many files at a time, that they know how much space they still have left on the laptop, that they can only keep the files worth keeping.

*For me*:

Besides the stuff above,

1. Allow for intuitive mesh connection and activity-sharing

2. Fix the Internet connectivity: when connecting to the Internet, they click on the Web icon, and when they see Google displayed, they type
something, they get an error page,...and they don't know what to do

3. Make menu-text user-resizable or make it bigger: many menus are very small, and some children –and many teachers– have trouble reading them
(Turtle Art block labels, eToys,

4. Simplify changing user-preferences: typing sugar-control-panel is not easy
...

== UI Development, UI in Education and Education on its Own ==
The overall Interface Guidelines page covers some of this:

[http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Human_Interface_Guidelines OLPC_Human_Interface_Guidelines]

Super article by Alan Kay on UI and learning <br>
http://www.vpri.org/pdf/human_condition.pdf

== An In Depth Look at School System Goals in Uruguay ==

First major XO roll out in Uruguay
[http://olpc-ceibal.blogspot.com/ Ceibal Blog]

[http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Uruguay Requirements and Deployment Update] <br>
Slowly growing web site on OLPC Wiki

[http://www.rapceibal.blogspot.com/ Uruguay Volunteers site] <br>
Updates and blog on team deploying XOs and doing training in Uruguay

[http://www.ine.gub.uy/enha2006/VERSION%20FINAL%20FINAL%20educaci%F3n1.pdf Report on Education In Uruguay In General] <br>
Report on Education in Uruguay by Government Ministry <br>

'''First questions from kids in Uruguay''' <br>
El más solicitado, la pregunta más oída fue: “Señor, señor, ¿cómo hago para poner música?” <br>
My rough translation: The most asked questions was "Mr. Mr, how do I play music?"

La segunda: “Señor, señor ¿me enseñás a sacar las fotos?” <br>
My rough translation: Second, Mr. Mr. teach me hlow to take pictures?"

La tercera: “¿dónde están los juegos?” Y la cuarta: “¿cómo hago para escribir?” <br>
My rough translation: The third, where are the games and the fourth: how do I use it to write?

From Ceibal blog at: <br>
[http://proyecto-ceibal.blogspot.com/2007/12/entregando-laptops-del-plan-ceibal.html Entregando laptops del Plan Ceibal]

== Comments and Suggestions on How To Teach Caring For Your Senses ==
Some ideas on education with the XO liberally construed from a single image taken in Peru.

I originally wrote this as a follow up to my post on OLPC News:
http://www.olpcnews.com/software/applications/xo_application_development_process.html

My time has since been taken up by interacting with Uruguay team (see below) and helping Nepal get an XS Server up and running.

My challenge, add your input and ideas below....

Its time to revisit my idea of how to make early XO deployments successful with an interactive development model. I am still on step 1, gathering input and creating a dialog between users and developers. The dialog part has been especially challenging. That's probably a good thing as we don't want the XO users to be deluged with questions and distractions from the vast world of XO commentators. That said, its amazing how many forums, blogs, wikis and web sites have sprung up with G1G1 users posting at a torrid pace. In comparison, the similar number of XOs distributed in the developing world have left nary a ripple of requests on the web..

What do people think about why we don't see requirements or feature requests from XO users in the developing world? One possibility could be time and experience as suggested in the essay, "Models of Growth" http://www.laptop.org/Models_of_Growth.pdf: It refers to one project where "there was a limited use of the online environment ... Primarily it was not in the school culture to spend time on-line. teachers' time is more than full accounted for already. They have virtually no extra time for seeking answers to their questions, for edification, for curiosity, for improvement."

We need to deal with that by ensuring we only engage in meaningful and constructive dialog which leads to real results. Protecting the privacy and time/bandwidth of teachers and students is paramount. Nonetheless, we should look for a safe intermediary or process that allows kids and teachers to talk about what they want to do with their XOs. Then hopefully we can mobilize large groups of resources to respond. We may need an asynchonous and uneven process. For example, a teacher in Peru only has 5 minutes to comment on what software they need. In return their collaborators need to spend 5 days researching options and proposals. Then the suggestions need to be presented back in way that only takes 5 minutes to evaluate. That's my guess but we need to engage that dialog to see how it works on real projects.

In order to start a dialog it helps to show that you have something useful to offer. That is a reason for others to want to engage you.

So I have come up with a project that I think would be valuable and which we can start on without needing any further input.

Carla Gomez Monroy posted a super report on the roll out of XOs in Arahuay, Peru: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Peru/Arahuay In it there is a picture of a beautiful learning tool created by one of the teachers for her students: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Image:024_Arahuay.JPG

My rough translation is:
Care that we must take for our senses <br>
- Go to the eye doctor <br>
- Don't sit too close to the television <br>
- Don't put anything in your eye <br>
- wash your hands <br>
- don't touch hot things <br>
- don't put wet hands in a power socket <br>
and one I can't read <br>

This teaches students about the senses of touch and sight and it teaches kids how to protect those senses.

This brings to light three challenges: <br>
1 - How would you teach this with the XO and could you design software that teaches it as well or better? <br>
2 - How would a teacher use the XO to create this kind of learning material for other lessons? Could they do it a more quickly and with better results than drawing it by hand? <br>
3 - Is there an activity available that would preserve or even enhance this teachers superb sense of creativity and design? <br>

That's taking a lot from one simple picture. Still, if we can address those challenges we can create a set of tools that implements a broad range of educational goals. The good thing is that its a real lesson that a real teacher wants to teach her kids. I don't know if its what the kids want to learn but it does seem like important life knowledge. This is targeted at first and second graders, ages 6 - 8. Its almost a trivial example but it may be harder to teach ths with the XO than it looks...

I envision four stages of this development: <br>
1 - A tool and template that let's teachers pull down images from a collection (google?) and place them on a background. Then let's them add lines and text to create essentially the same thing you see on the page. <br>

2 - A way to share that creation with the kids (web page?) <br>

3 - A concept of interactivity which allows construction and agency on the part of the kids. Something that the kids can create themselves and that allows them to go beyond the primary message to explore the ideas further. e.g. what if the kids wanted to learn why wet hands are more dangerous with electricity than dry hands or why sitting too close the TV is bad for your eyes? What if the kids learned something more and wanted to add it back to extend the lesson or wanted to add more safety lesson? What if they want to virutally see what happens when they violate one of these rules? What would it take to make this lesson interesting to the kids (e.g. make it a game or let them make it their own)? <br>

4 - How would you make it faster to create this on the XO than to draw it by hand? Could you do it without diluting the chance for creativity? <br>

I think we can knock off the first two pretty quickly. The second two look much harder. I'm not an educator though I pretend to be one at home with my kids :-) <br>

The high level goals of this software development in priority order are: <br>
- Make an XO tool that is useful for teachers and saves them time in creating lessons. <br>
- Make an XO tool that creates lessons which are more interesting and creates more effective learning for 6 - 8 year olds. <br>
- Empower teachers and students to create their own lessons and learning tools using the XO <br>
:The [[Health_Software|Health Project]] would welcome anyone wanting to pursue this idea. --[[User:FGrose|FGrose]] 23:25, 14 March 2008 (EDT)

== Developer collaboration with teachers and students ==

Thanks for your ideas. I've commented briefly on our Talk page: [[Talk:OLPC_Rochester%2C_NY#Developer_collaboration_with_teachers_and_students|Developer collaboration with teachers and students]]. Do you sense any particular usability problem in penetrating the time, space, & cultural barriers? We can continue there or here. --[[User:FGrose|FGrose]] 22:43, 14 March 2008 (EDT)

== Translation of pages ==

Gregorio,

Mucho gusto. . . I'm happy to try to help get you pointed in the right direction, but I must be clear that I'm no wiki expert (started here in Jan '08), but I'm trying to learn and I'm a quick study.

As for RTFM or is it RTFWiki :-), here are some pages to start with.

[[Translating]], [[Translating/HowTo]], [[Template:Translation]], [[List_of_translators]].

Getting the translation thing right definitely requires some knowledge of the proper use of templates, and I'm not an expert there. It might be best to post a similar question to [[User_talk:Xavi]]. [[Special:Contributions/Xavi]] shows a lot of work on translation issues. Maybe also [[User_talk:Homunq]] who looks like something of a template expert or [[User_talk:Dupuy]]. I think any of them would be better able to help you. I will take look at your pages when I have a chance to see if there are any suggestions I can offer, but for the translation process, I'm probably not your expert.

[[User:Cjl|Cjl]] 12:47, 11 April 2008 (EDT)

:I went ahead and inserted the translation template on [[OLPC Uruguay]], I'm afraid my anglo-centric upbringing caused me to make a mistake. I really should have created the translations page indicating that the "original" page language was (es) espanol , but my fingers typed (en) english. I'll try to fix it, hopefully I didn't make too much of a mess of it. [[User:Cjl|Cjl]] 22:49, 11 April 2008 (EDT)

== Overview and Deployment URLs ==
http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/india/2008-August/000646.html

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