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== database hot backups ==
== database hot backups ==

<hhardy> gregdek: or whomever--a need we have is to identify all our critical
<hhardy> gregdek: or whomever--a need we have is to identify all our critical
databases and make scripts to back them up regularly and to verify the backups
databases and make scripts to back them up regularly and to verify the backups
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== rt needs ==
== rt needs ==

<adric> Legwork in RT, but I'm not sure j random helper could help much.
<adric> Legwork in RT, but I'm not sure j random helper could help much.
<hhardy> isforinsects: ping
<hhardy> isforinsects: ping

Revision as of 23:01, 9 September 2008

Greetings

          (~dogi@dsl092-078-228.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net)has joined #olpc-admin
 <hhardy> dogi: hello
   <dogi> hi hhardy
* adric (~adric@adsl-160-8-87.asm.bellsouth.net) has joined #olpc-admin
 <hhardy> adric: hail
  <adric> hi all. Rain and traffic
 <hhardy> hi I'm back in town but haven't read rt or email yet I'm still
          officially onvacation till tomorrow
 <hhardy> yeah I drove from near Albany today to Boston and it was pouring
          until the lasthour

rt

 <hhardy> how's rt?
   <dogi> hhardy: i send u an invitation mail for my B-Day ...
 <hhardy> I was thinking we could do some of the categorizing and rtfm stuff
          likesupport0gang has
  <adric> hhardy: Seems to still be up :) I'm still getting up to speed, and
          getting mychops back
 <hhardy> adam holt can tell you about some of that stuff or ffm, culseg,
          others
  <adric> Ah, right. Yeah, and 3.8 has a ll kinds of orgaizaing tricks
 <hhardy> it would be nice to track things over time such as tickets epened,
          tickets currently open, tickets closed, and composition of the type of ticket w/in a queue
<lfaraone|ffm> oh, hello people.
 <hhardy> Kim and I would like a "bird's eye view" some meaningful metrics as
          far as the sysadmin queue
* lfaraone|ffm thanks hhardy for reminding him.
  <adric> Oh, yes. We've tried to use a custom field for that in help@ with
          some succes
  <adric> Right
<lfaraone|ffm> hhardy: I was wondering how _I_ can get involved with the VIG.
 <hhardy> well since you are hear first say what you know and can do and who
          you are

(optionally)

 <hhardy> *here
 <hhardy> there is a lsit of things we would like to have done on the wiki page
 <hhardy> and you can edit the discussion page there
 <hhardy> there is a mailing list which is kind of light right now
 <hhardy> and this channel

Introductions

<lfaraone|ffm> hhardy: Well, I'm a wikipedia admin, as well as one on w.l.o, who
          has some experience with bots.
<lfaraone|ffm> I'm also pretty good with server adminining, running 3 at home
          and 2 at my school.
 <hhardy> isforinsects is organizing a wiki gang
 <hhardy> our involvement in wiki would be maintaining the backend, web server,
          database, backups, upgrades

wiki.laptop.org defacement and deltion issues

  <adric> we definitely need help with automated wiki defense. Got hit at least
          twice this

weekend

 <hhardy> performance metrics
<isforinsects> Whoops, I slipped the meeting, hi all
 <hhardy> yep need defense bots in action
<lfaraone|ffm> hhardy: I can do upgrades, some backend management, mailing list
          admin, trac, git matinence, and wiki extentions.
   <dogi> hi isforinsects
 <hhardy> ffm you have any ideas about wiki bots for defending?
<lfaraone|ffm> hhardy: yes, cluebot.
 <hhardy> isfor any news on that one bandito
<lfaraone|ffm> hhardy: however it requires some extra summaries.
 <hhardy> the one who was obcessed w/ final fantasy?
<isforinsects> lfaraone|ffm, we badly need someone to run a cluebot.
<isforinsects> Well, possibly not a cluebot.
 <hhardy> grunch, glorp named somethng like that?
<isforinsects> gwarp
 <hhardy> yeah
<lfaraone|ffm> hhardy: grawp.
<isforinsects> and he's a Harry Potter fan :P
 <hhardy> according to wikipedia he has dozens of aliases and reflectors
  <adric> The skidiot?
<lfaraone|ffm> hhardy: mhm.
<isforinsects> http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Grawp
<lfaraone|ffm> hhardy: IMHO, cluebot would work nicely assuming we can get the heuristics written well.
  <adric> Oh, it's on ED, eh. Must be true.
<isforinsects> The issue with cluebot is non-english strings
 <hhardy> http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Grawp
<lfaraone|ffm> isforinsects: oh, php can't handle it?
 <hhardy> oops that paste was meant for browser :)
<lfaraone|ffm> isforinsects: how about
          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:VoABot_II or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MartinBot4647 ?
<isforinsects> You tell me.
<lfaraone|ffm> (two other bots, we can prolly get the source)
<isforinsects> If you want to take on the project, coordinate with cjl and
          myself.
<isforinsects> and give us a breakdown
<isforinsects> cjl has also done research on this.
<isforinsects> dogi almost got what bot running the other day?
<isforinsects> He was working on it at 1cc with SJ
   <dogi> cluebot
<lfaraone|ffm> isforinsects: kk.
 <hhardy> isforinsects: how are things at 1cc?

ACTION ITEMS

 <hhardy> ok it seems we had some ACTION ITEMS: there
 <hhardy> let's pull those out so we can grep for them
 <hhardy> who will do bots for wiki anti-vandal patrol?
  <adric> hhardy: Was there an agenda to-night? I was late getting on
<isforinsects> ACTION ITEM: ffm: let's coordinate between is4, cjl, dogi and you
          on the VIG list?
 <hhardy> no agenda I just got back in town
<lfaraone|ffm> isforinsects: sure
 <hhardy> I probably have > 10,000 emails to sort through tomorrow
   <dogi> is4: ok
<lfaraone|ffm> hhardy: lol, prolly
  <adric> hhardy: Vacations are risky due to what you have to come back to :D
 <hhardy> 10046 actually and counting
 <hhardy> has anyone heard from noah recently about trac?
<lfaraone|ffm> hhardy: hrn?
 <hhardy> (hrn?)?

No news on content server

 <hhardy> any news on content server?
 <hhardy> reasonably fast transcoding whould be part of that + big pipe

rt spam

 <hhardy> has the spam situation on rt:help improved sincw e got the barracuda

implemented better?

<lfaraone|ffm> hhardy: somewhat... not really.
  <adric> hmm .. maybe? Do we have metric no that?
<lfaraone|ffm> hhardy: when exactly was that impelmented?
 <hhardy> cjl has been getting good stats
 <hhardy> before I left so 2 weeks ago
 <hhardy> mail to rt.l.o is now to go through the barracuda as well as that to
          l.o
 <hhardy> let me check the mx records
  <adric> only one mx for either .. diff ips
 <hhardy> kids, don't try this at home, nslookup is deprecated, use dig :)
 <hhardy> root@thinker:~# nslookup
 <hhardy> > set type=mx
 <hhardy> > laptop.org
 <hhardy> Server:         18.85.2.138
 <hhardy> Address:        18.85.2.138#53
 <hhardy> laptop.org      mail exchanger = 10 pedal.laptop.org.
 <hhardy> laptop.org      mail exchanger = 5 spam.laptop.org.
 <hhardy> > rt.laptop.org
  <adric> nslookup, lol
 <hhardy> Server:         18.85.2.138
 <hhardy> Address:        18.85.2.138#53
 <hhardy> rt.laptop.org   mail exchanger = 10 spam.laptop.org.
 <hhardy> old brain, old synapses lol
  <adric> Weird, when I dig I'm only getting one mx for either..
 <hhardy> hmmm I expected to see a secondary MX for rt in case of Barracuda is
          down
 <hhardy> I will ask MB about that
  <adric> kk ..
 <hhardy> I know Barracuda goes down when it updates its databases
 <hhardy> anyway I think it is required by RFC's

Recruitment

  <adric> My only immediate concerns re: RT are where's holt? :) and Can I have
          minions plskthx?
 <hhardy> sure find some good minions lol
 <hhardy> I don't have them in my back pocket
 <hhardy> lcukily for them
  <adric> Yeah .. help@ really needs help categorized
 <hhardy> gregdek might have a source of minions
<gregdek> Hm?
 <hhardy> the fedora infrastructure group
  <adric> , er raather with (re)categorization
 <hhardy> adric was asking for minions to help with rt
 <hhardy> I said sure go get some
  <adric> I'm revving up on the tickets from holt, bt we need some legwork
  <adric> Other than that I've got plenty of work to do, all laid out :)
 <hhardy> the people who made rt are friends and are local I suspect they will
          answer quesitons also theres the rt chan at irc.perl.org
  <adric> Yes :) I'm trying to triage our rt met tickets to find out what we
          need to ask BP about.
 <hhardy> irc.perl.org:#rt
  <adric> oh yes, I've been a bother there :)

database hot backups

 <hhardy> gregdek: or whomever--a need we have is to identify all our critical
          databases and make scripts to back them up regularly and to verify the backups
 <hhardy> adric: good
<gregdek> What kind of dbs?  mysql?
  <adric> And the rt-users list is noisy, but quite helpful
 <hhardy> mysql and postgres
* gregdek nods.
 <hhardy> I've got lot of TB free on grinch so there is root and we can rsync
          stuff over to there in an automated way
 <hhardy> we can use my simple scripts to move stuff to grinch we just need a
          nice hot backup for all the db
 <hhardy> *room not root above lol
 <hhardy> freudian slip?
  <adric> Sure, sounds lovely. Jsut need to find hot copy for the DBs
 <hhardy> if people are looking for a one-off project thats a good high
          priority one which would be low hanging fruit if accomplished
 <hhardy> ACTION ITEM: find someone to coordinate making the inventory of
          databases and making and testing the hot backup proceudres
 <hhardy> any other low hanging fruit type things come to mind?

rt needs

  <adric> Legwork in RT, but I'm not sure j random helper could help much.
 <hhardy> isforinsects: ping
 <hhardy> I kind of want people doing things they know very well how to do
<isforinsects> pong hhardy
 <hhardy> at least enough to not make a mess
* isforinsects reads back
  <adric> Oh I agree. This is something I wasn't able to keep up with before
          VIG happened, lol
 <hhardy> do you want to tidy up the logs, I will give your user on thinker
          access to my irclogs
  <adric> Yeah. We need a plan to organzize the tickets for everyone, but
          there's always going to leg work sifting the uncategorized, or worse, recategorizing if make a major organizational change
 <hhardy> as far as meeting log
<isforinsects> are we adjourning now?
 <hhardy> shortly
<isforinsects> when you say adjourn I'll stopp logging and post
<isforinsects> So, yes
 <hhardy> ACTION ITEM: need a vlounteer to help triage
 <hhardy> did you have a bot on the 1st 15 min?
  <adric> .... which ward?
<isforinsects> Yes, I have the entire meeting.
 <hhardy> I am tired still I was sardined into a compact car
  <adric> Yikes
 <hhardy> ok good for now, see you next week or on the list or here whenever
 <hhardy> yes yikes indeed
  <adric> Thanks, hhardy , bye all!