Talk:Gen2 Hardware ideas: Difference between revisions
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Looking for the best hardware possible, efficient and cheap, I've found only one that fits and actually can do it all, from I/O control to processing, even sound and VGA outputs... all with a fraction of a Watt of power |
Looking for the best hardware possible, efficient and cheap, I've found only one that fits and actually can do it all, from I/O control to processing, even sound and VGA outputs... 40 efficient CPUs in a Chip, each available to it's own task, all with a fraction of a Watt of power, available to emulate any circuit, from VGA to wireless. |
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http://www.intellasys.net/ |
http://www.intellasys.net/ |
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The downsizes are: |
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1 - Any peripheral (Ram included) should comunicate in serial mode (not a real problem, not to a portable PC at least). |
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Likewise the power needed will mostly spoiled by the VGA. |
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3 - Current industry will look for it as a menace though it would be an extra, not competition to existing products. |
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The upsides are: |
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1 - Low power usage. |
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2 - Cheap. 40 efficient Cpu's are cheaper that only one x86 (or ARM) inefficient CPU. |
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3 - Power. Each of the 40 CPUs are powerful enough for the OS, or any application. |
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So: The higher power needed and price tag will come from the VGA. (current XO hardware has contoured that problem) |
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A funny 1996 story, with the predecessor of the intellasys CPU (An F21 single CPU chip), can be found at |
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http://www.ultratechnology.com/scope.htm |
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Quoting Ultratecnology site: |
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My idea of a cheap PC had some things in common with MIT's new $100 One Laptop per Child project, except my idea was that, what the world needed was a good $5 computer that was as simple to understand as the cost implied. We got pretty close at iTV with the Forthchip module that we could build for about $5 that fit into the battery compartment of a $19 (retail) B/W TV AM/FM which let it connect to the Internet for email and web browsing. iTV never sold any of them let alone the volume needed to sell those miniature Imac-like machines for $49. And UltraTechnology's Workstation in a Mouse demostrated that a mouse with an F21 would cost about the same as an ordinary $10 mouse and only needed an RGB monitor or TV to play and surf. iTV did come close to closing a couple of those billion unit type deals. |
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No comments needed...Back to OLC: |
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| ⚫ | But will (again) someone take the KISS rule into account to make GREAT (instead if BIG) system (and OS) that would be available anywhere for less that $50? (assuming $40 to be cost of the VGA)... or even us$10 if a TV is used (making more sense in remote places and with a price more realistic to some countries were one TV in a village is a luxury)... |
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Such option would be useful: |
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- One Keyboard with the Computer inside using an existing TV by $10. |
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- cables or no cables depending if you would use 1 chip or 2 (One at the keyboard, another cable connected to the TV)... THAT would be a real luxury!!! as it would cost $20 instead of $10... See what the problems are? |
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Dutra de Lacerda <http://Factor-H.com> |
Dutra de Lacerda <http://Factor-H.com> |
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Revision as of 16:59, 8 January 2009
Looking for the best hardware possible, efficient and cheap, I've found only one that fits and actually can do it all, from I/O control to processing, even sound and VGA outputs... 40 efficient CPUs in a Chip, each available to it's own task, all with a fraction of a Watt of power, available to emulate any circuit, from VGA to wireless.
http://www.intellasys.net/
The downsizes are: 1 - Any peripheral (Ram included) should comunicate in serial mode (not a real problem, not to a portable PC at least). 2 - the need to program everything, but taking in to account a Small OS like Menuet <http://www.menuetos.net/> the OX3 it is certainly doable at us$10 the hardware and the remaining dependent on the VGA touch-screens. (same as above) 3 - Current industry will look for it as a menace though it would be an extra, not competition to existing products.
The upsides are: 1 - Low power usage. 2 - Cheap. 40 efficient Cpu's are cheaper that only one x86 (or ARM) inefficient CPU. 3 - Power. Each of the 40 CPUs are powerful enough for the OS, or any application.
So: The higher power needed and price tag will come from the VGA. (current XO hardware has contoured that problem)
Is there the will ?!? Since this would be a change that would compromise big-business, it is doubtful. Charles Moore work in uCPUs are being sabotaged for years. He offered an Home Internet Box for $5 and it was dropped. A funny 1996 story, with the predecessor of the intellasys CPU (An F21 single CPU chip), can be found at http://www.ultratechnology.com/scope.htm
Quoting Ultratecnology site:
My idea of a cheap PC had some things in common with MIT's new $100 One Laptop per Child project, except my idea was that, what the world needed was a good $5 computer that was as simple to understand as the cost implied. We got pretty close at iTV with the Forthchip module that we could build for about $5 that fit into the battery compartment of a $19 (retail) B/W TV AM/FM which let it connect to the Internet for email and web browsing. iTV never sold any of them let alone the volume needed to sell those miniature Imac-like machines for $49. And UltraTechnology's Workstation in a Mouse demostrated that a mouse with an F21 would cost about the same as an ordinary $10 mouse and only needed an RGB monitor or TV to play and surf. iTV did come close to closing a couple of those billion unit type deals.
No comments needed...Back to OLC: But will (again) someone take the KISS rule into account to make GREAT (instead if BIG) system (and OS) that would be available anywhere for less that $50? (assuming $40 to be cost of the VGA)... or even us$10 if a TV is used (making more sense in remote places and with a price more realistic to some countries were one TV in a village is a luxury)...
Such option would be useful: - One Keyboard with the Computer inside using an existing TV by $10. - cables or no cables depending if you would use 1 chip or 2 (One at the keyboard, another cable connected to the TV)... THAT would be a real luxury!!! as it would cost $20 instead of $10... See what the problems are?
Dutra de Lacerda <http://Factor-H.com>