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From David: "I made some major cleanup and funf overhaul fixes that I just pushed to the repo and updated apk's in xoom-update..." (see email) |
From David: "I made some major cleanup and funf overhaul fixes that I just pushed to the repo and updated apk's in xoom-update..." (see email) |
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We're still getting picture data as we always have, but evern :10 rather than every :5 . We now also have info on when the photo was taken. |
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M - we expect and hope that having a categorization with things like a cluster of different ducks in a file, will help consolidate ideas. |
M - we expect and hope that having a categorization with things like a cluster of different ducks in a file, will help consolidate ideas. |
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It offers information on receptive-vocabulary growth. |
It offers information on receptive-vocabulary growth. |
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Perhaps we could have a sequence: from a specific instance of an image with sound. then add a variety of simialr images. |
Perhaps we could have a sequence: from a specific instance of an image with sound. then add a variety of simialr images. |
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: M - with more time we would efinitely add that scaffolding explicitly. and it's thanks to chris that rather than a specifically scaffolded tablet, this version is a compromise towards a future version. |
: M - with more time we would efinitely add that scaffolding explicitly. and it's thanks to chris that rather than a specifically scaffolded tablet, this version is a compromise towards a future version. |
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: E - good that we went through :50 before first mentioning scaffolding! <aside on sth that rhymed with 'mocratic ladflies'.> |
: E - good that we went through :50 before first mentioning scaffolding! <aside on sth that rhymed with 'mocratic ladflies'.> |
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=== Assessment data observations === |
=== Assessment data observations === |
Revision as of 20:03, 27 June 2012
Attendance
Maryanne Ed Merrit Richard Chris SJ David Max (new from Maryanne's group.) Eric (" ")
Denise
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Agenda
1. Application Status - New applications reviewed, to be added, obstacles / status 2. Application Organization - Updated app presentation on the tablet 3. Third Site Status - MoE discussion, location scouting, tablet preparation 4. Data-collection / funf framework - Meeting report, David's updates 5. Current data collection status (Richard) 6. Assessment data observations (Chris, Richard) 7. Schedule
App status
Apps and activities by conceptual and linguistic development : A categorization developed by Maryanne, Merit, over the past week.
- early childhood concepts & words; Categorization: 6-10 categories, such as 'Early Primer Words'
- Related doc: on Google Docs
- New apps
- There are some apps planned to be added over the past week.
- Not put into colored squares yet; very visible.
- Oceanhouse media aren't yet in the group, but we are hoping we will manage it. Let's avoid running into that problem. e.g., the apps look great, can't connect to a license server when offline, work great for a week. We need to try any apps in a no-network env for extended time.
- "there was no way we would ahve known that problem unless we tried that for a week w/o network" [well, maybe one way.]
Pruning a fair amount. Adding some new apps. How many films are reallt instructing in language? How much is just fun? [turned on, leflt on]
- (but isn't this a good way to learn too?) Is there real engagement w a very long movie?
- "it's a big investmemnt, time and space; if they're not being used..."
- Richard: certainly some kids had onet cuked under their arms, walking around with a film blaring. I watched them take an interest in videos of all types and sizes; and they'd jump around a lot in them. Kids now almost never use the launcher. they go to 'apps' and the gallery views; both give them a nicer view to page through.
Q: on sustained attention. on lions and other vids w small segments within them:
Alex - is this like memory games where you have to look at one image and find another that's similar.
- C - but in one sense we have dull things for our experiments so that we're only measuring something very basic; when you add something fun it makes it hard to interpret the results.
- E - 'fun' by definition adds somethig they like that skews behavior... [S - not by definition! ] C - I'm not so fatalistic about it. we could add better rewards and still be rigorous. but when you add multiple types of stimulus...]
App organization
From the funf meeting: We can lose the launcher with the next funf update; kids can access apps any way they want. we can unify on a smaller # of views for that. and get much better / cleaner data collection.
Q: on consolidating skills. can we group things into 'letters' , 'colors' -- editing things into smaller chunks?
- Maryanne to David -it sounds like you're saying we can do this.
Third site status, and pre-testing
We have two more weeks now for a final image?
- pre-testing
Chris - to do proper pretesting, you need to ship an image that only has matching and balloons and none of the concepts; and then add it later.
M - that might be a soln in several ways. we would prefer doing these segments, but perhaps should ahve a phase 1/2/3 in which the first is just testing, 2d is what we have friday this week, 3rd is that plus segments, hich could be added after 2-3 weeks.
C - we want to give them more than a week for matching and balloons to see how they learn the task. at wonchit hey only gradually learned what they were being asked to do.
E - also wonchi/wolonchete kids had had usage experience. at the third site they won't hav ethat. we almost want to give the kids as et of apps that have nothingt o do with literacy, have them play angry birds for 2 weeks and then replace everything with the literacy image.
M - but lenring to use apps isn't ? learning, it is technical learning...
C -so we could do non-lit tests for a while? Merrit - well at least "content-free" tests. ones that are not literacy oriented at all.
C - what about only roviding the color and matching tests, and then adding the literacy tests after 2 weeks.
Maryanne -better to start with something that is engaging, then move to matching, then more to the content we want. that wodl give us time to integrate esegments. [time qt 2hqt point in the schedule?]
Data-collection / funf framework
Meeting report, David's updates.
From David: "I made some major cleanup and funf overhaul fixes that I just pushed to the repo and updated apk's in xoom-update..." (see email)
We're still getting picture data as we always have, but evern :10 rather than every :5 . We now also have info on when the photo was taken.
Data collection status: Probes and custom activities
Can you make a tinkrbook probe for concepts in each of these categories? say, 3 animals, colors, etc throughout.
C - we've done this already, with the popular things they've been exposed to in tinkrbook. What we found so far is they haven't learned things like baby/duck outsid ea specific context.
M - we expect and hope that having a categorization with things like a cluster of different ducks in a file, will help consolidate ideas. It offers information on receptive-vocabulary growth.
Perhaps we could have a sequence: from a specific instance of an image with sound. then add a variety of simialr images.
then add a photograph of a real duck, something not in the original cluster, but something that the cluster has been specifically training them to be able to id.
D - if we can confirm they can associate written word with images... the more they know about a wrod the more likely they are to be able to learn other things about it when you see it in written form. background knowledg about each word itself adds scaffolding.
- M - with more time we would efinitely add that scaffolding explicitly. and it's thanks to chris that rather than a specifically scaffolded tablet, this version is a compromise towards a future version.
- E - good that we went through :50 before first mentioning scaffolding! <aside on sth that rhymed with 'mocratic ladflies'.>
Assessment data observations
- When kids can't get beyond one assessment, can we find another assessment that works better for them?
- [We may need another set of video sounds?]
Schedule
- We shouldn't be adding more content to tablets being taken for testing now.
- We are in some sense already out of time (for this build).
- We should think about to what degree we want to use and modifyin matching and balloons apps for pre-testing, to get initial data before starting.
- M: can we do this by Friday? Merrit: we should consider if we need all these segments ready.
M - we should be all on the same page. our group is really... to ahve as good as we can, a conceptualization of these caetegories, every segment we can and think is important put in there. BUT: for each category, this full set will be gotten to you within 2 weeks (3 weeks?). And by that point we will be able to ascertain whether we are making similar mistakes with these apps as last time.
- Let's keep thinking in terms of waves, rather than having everything at the start.
Other Q's for OLPC from others
Something that happened other than this glitch connecting to the G apps store.
- problem opening videos, diff from one tablet to another. a loading problem? 'this file/video cannot be opened/displayed'
- ...