User talk:Sj/Archive2007

You may talk to me here, but check my status to see whether I'm around. See my userpage for other ways to contact me if you need something in a hurry (email is best for anything not urgent). Sj

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Hey

Hey- Thanks for your help, it's refreshing to have some collaboration.

I'd like to talk to you more about the include tags you mentioned before. Those could prove to be quite useful.

Also, I like what you've done with the sidebar. Portions of it may or may not be temporary depending on how we decide to set up the front page. Walter and I had discussed setting it up like the main page of fr.wikipedia.org. I really like the organization going on there. Everything is right at your fingertips, and it's still very navigable. I had a different approach than what they had though (I think)- My idea is to modularize the page into elements (or blocks, or cells, or whatever you want to call them). Say we categorize the entire wiki into a dozen super categories. Each category would have it's own template (or page, or whatever). That way the main page can be just an index of what blocks are included instead of a bunch of ugly html. Am I discovering something that's already in use? Is this a good/bad/superlative idea? Let me know what you think. Thanks! --Aburton 18:39, 26 June 2006 (EDT)

OLPCities

I received your comments. Thanks. OLPCities is an open project. Everybody (some anonymous...) can help, create content etc. etc. We hope that, in the future, we can use the MIT(?) OLPC server (I believe that there are one available) to upload all the material. Our server can be not good enought if we have a big trafic (we are optimist...). --Americo , 19 September 2006

refactoring love

content page ideas on my user page. Phoebe 01:22, 12 October 2006 (EDT)

A question

Is there a preliminary list of new features I can review somewhere? From my point of view, getting a better idea of the Journal, and more generally: how content will be deployed. For example can our software tie into the depolyment mechanism. So content that has been downloaded and is displayed in our software can reference other content that the student hasn't downloaded yet. --Scott C.

How would you want to reference software on the network that hasn't yet been downloaded? There will be visibility of content on the mesh and server, at least via an index with basic metadata about the files. Sj talk 19:48, 10 December 2006 (EST)

Notes

Local copies of text with push updates, changes when others change. Personal wikis with small groups/clusters. Synch of pages across wikis. Diffs pushed to email servers, pulled down to rev control.

Songbird, etc for exposing, sharing music. Post-v6 IP sharing. Version and data problems... doing away with net file systems.

olpc

Hi,

I am an astronomy graduate student and educator at Portugal. I'd like very much to contribute to the OLPC project with my knowledge in communicating astronomy. I give various lectures, courses, workshops and so forth.

Hoping to hear from you.

José Raeiro

www.raeiro.com

Hello José! Welcome to our wiki. Please create an account here and come back soon. I would love to have you contribute to our project. Perhaps you can help start a page on Astronomy and how to teach it to children from scratch. Sj talk 22:49, 25 January 2007 (EST)

Interwiki

Hi,

about interwiki support is this feature turn on ?...if is not can it be set up..? Thank you. ill wait for your commments.

It needs a slight database change; we will do this soon. Sj talk 22:49, 25 January 2007 (EST)

games

see Game development ...

Thanks for the start. Sj talk 22:49, 25 January 2007 (EST)

Old templates :

OlpcProject

Hi,

I create an OlpcProject:Educational ideas page for Pedagogical ideas. Could you see it, please, and talk me what do you think about it ?

Thanks -- Zyacat 22:12, 16 February 2007 (EST)

Software projects

Are my latest editions on Software projects in line with what you had in mind?

Also, what about all the other stuff at http://dev.laptop.org ? I'm retiscent to include some projects (ie: linux-mm-cc and such) given their 'low-level' nature.--Xavi 13:05, 19 February 2007 (EST)

WiXi

can Summer_of_Code be updated to include WiXi as candidate? sooner action will encourage better student proposals..

(last year twexter was included as candidate for SOC 2006, but on the very last day.. thus student proposals were weak.. this year proposals could be stronger if twexter/WiXi could be included sooner.. I met with Alexander Gelbukh yesterday, he's eager to mentor and already listed as a Google mentor in Mexico.. thanks:) Duke 13:12, 22 March 2007 (EDT)

Library strings

I extracted the 'visible' strings from the library... put them in [[User:Xavi/Library strings#Table format]] and [[User:Xavi/Library strings#PO format]] (reviewed Localization/Library strings)... take your pick! :) --Xavi 21:12, 28 March 2007 (EDT)

Through with the biology section, actually it's more botanical & biomes—of which I thought I knew enough... did the best I could, should be reviewed. Again, they are in table and PO format :) --Xavi 03:51, 29 March 2007 (EDT)

Translation

Hi, Xavi

please let me know how to add Korean translation to http://www.laptop.org/. The guideline says use PO file, but how to write it, PO file for Korean?

Thanks..

user:php5

PO-file-naming-with-or-without-dashes-or-what?

They sure look ugly... I just followed Walter's naming convention... Personally I would've gone the sub-pages road... but that just swaps / for -... --Xavi 01:01, 29 March 2007 (EDT)

Update the translated content on the www.laptop.org

Hi, Sj

Thanks for making a user page for me. BTW, I've made the final review of the translations for zh-CN version of the web www.laptop.org with some corrections. Could you make them online? I think that it is controlled by the olpc team member. The translation works for korean and portuguese have the same problems. All needs full update. Thanks! -- user:ScottZ 05:05, 07 April 2007 (EDT)

Obsolete Template

We sure could use a "obsolete" template to mark some of the more out of date pages, such as

• Flashing LinuxBIOS on A-Test Boards
• Building LinuxBIOS
• Upgrading to LinuxBIOS

And so on, and so forth. Thanks. - JordanCrouse (Talk to me!) 17:13, 11 April 2007 (EDT)

There's one already: Template:Dated : {{dated}}

Sorry to post here :) --Xavi 17:42, 11 April 2007 (EDT)

Hmm - I'm not sure if thats exactly what I was looking for. I mean, the LinuxBIOS stuff just isn't out of date, we've purposely killed it. We don't want to leave doubt in anybody's mind that this information is still even remotely valid. The information should only remain for posterity. I'm thinking that an {{obsolete}} template would say exactly that, and possibly provide a link to the newer information, if it exists (i.e - LinuxBIOS pages would link to OpenFirmware pages) and such. - JordanCrouse (Talk to me!) 19:13, 16 April 2007 (EDT)

Portal idea?

Hi! I've been (playing) with the idea to restructure the OLPC Spanish America page and turn it into a sort of 'Portal' page (which if works fine, maybe we can move it to the 'english' side).

BTW, this is just me playing with DIVs so the 'content' is not really thought out... My hope is that having some clear cut first level division of the content will propagate and help the structure throughout the pages and categories in the wiki....

Would it be too much to ask for your opinions on the idea and its (crude) implementation? Cheers, --Xavi 14:54, 26 April 2007 (EDT)

about Learning Outcome Statements

About Learning Outcome Statements

LOS is somewhat different from the spirits of wikipedia or wikieducator. XO Korea hope to establish a standard learning outcomes for all educational courses, and for governments and business sectors also. The goal is;

• to set an uniform and standardized learning outcomes for children and citizens regardless of their nationalities.
• to establish an uniform and standardized web-based tests (or accreditations) for all courses, certifications (such as lawyers, doctors, and CPAs etc.), and licenses for all nations,
• to establish Open Enterprise Architecture for worldwide programmers not to duplicate their coding works and to share software components and libraries,
• to provide raw materials (or data) for programmers (or software engineers) to code XO Korea/Sector Automation, which shall automate a school, government, or business sector, and
• for children and citizens to be able to participate in educational, governmental, and business sectors directly via Python programming architecture.

So, the ultimate goal of LOS written here is for children to be a REAL social members, who can collect some modules (or software components) from OEA libraries to compose a Really working governmental or business sectors which they own.

LOS is not just a guideline for children or students to follow when learning something, but a base step to particiaption in the world, and I hope that participation to be Python programming not just for playing, but for achieving some real things such as public or private social activities.

All the content here will be moved/copied to the wiki of XO Korea when our presentation tour begins at the end of this month or in the next month. When moving/copying them, any content you think NOT matching to the goal of this wiki will be erased from here.

However, if you think LOS should be moved as soon as possible, and if you think LOS does not match to this site, I'll move it right now.

Please let me know your opinion. php5 18:43, 5 May 2007 (EDT)

As there is no more opinion, I'll continue my work....If any, let me know anytime. Sincerely php5 17:51, 6 May 2007 (EDT)

I see, thanks for your opinion. As always, the eyes of others let me work along the road/rail. Anyway, this week will be somewhat busy for my farming and fishing job, and, as I'm the only one who can translate English-Korean in my team, one week or so will be very very very quiet for this wiki, due to my absense. Please miss me....php5 16:12, 7 May 2007 (EDT)

Hello

Hello Sj: Sorry for responding late. Overwhelmed with my final projects and exams. What's up? Nalrawahi 14:45, 8 May 2007 (EDT)

-- Hi again SJ, I will be more than glad to help you guys with this. I will come back to the UAE on May 20th that's when I graduate. Because I really have no big commitments yet. I will be working on some translating and designing any language-related component when I am free. Send me an email anytime. Nalrawahi 18:52, 8 May 2007 (EDT)

Could we combine the Volunteering and Community Building pages?

These two pages have a lot in common. Perhaps we could merge them?

User:Berrybw

OLPC Pathfinder Internship, Peru, Nigeria, & Game Jam

Hi again SJ,

Number of things to mention. I put it all on my talk & user pages(sig links) instead of in an email so others can hopefully chime in.

There were a couple of things we talked about that I think I've missed. Feel free to direct me on any front that comes to mind.

 :) Ben Nardone:: My Talk:: Internship:: GameJam:: Peru:: Nigeria 18:28, 19 May 2007 (EDT)

Hi again SJ. This is just to introduce you to Chris Maire (User:PIOLPCIntern-1-Talk-Blog-WikiContribs- Marching). Chris is my intern, and will spend the summer helping me with at all things OLPC. Best,  :) Ben Nardone:: My Talk:: Internship:: Peru:: Nigeria 09:09, 24 July 2007 (EDT)

Wiki Updates

Instructions for blog: User:Lauren#OLPC_Summer_Blog

Psst: XO Manifesto

Where was that good "how to add" page? --Lauren 16:01, 11 July 2007 (EDT)

Still finishing up content bundle instructions but wanted to check in with you about:

1. Bundle Structure: Does this look ok to you? I tried to replicate the activity bundle structure without overlapping names for things, so that activity bundles could contain library bundle info too.
2. Library.info file: Again, copied the activity.info file but added a few fields. I didn't remove any yet, but I left notes on the page about which ones I thought could go.

OK. Off to figure out how the library XML/CSS works... --Lauren 17:49, 13 July 2007 (EDT)

Created Wikimania, tho I left my notebook of what to put in it at home.... --Lauren 17:28, 17 July 2007 (EDT)

Thanks for your greeting

Hi, it's farming season here.

As a farmer and part-time carpenter, I have been restoring a traditional Korean house (particularly, that of the Jeju Island), and maybe a few days later, the restructuring will be finished.

That house is much similar to XO..I'm sure you can't distinguish one from the other. Please see here at this weekend, maybe.

vision test

Regards

We'd like to add a vision test on the first machine startup. Can you recommend a set of images we could use for this? Then we could develop an activity around it... Sj talk 15:58, 3 June 2007 (EDT)

Could we irc tomorrow? Before putting in too much work I'd like to make sure I understand what you are looking for. No pun intended. MitchellNCharity 21:07, 4 June 2007 (EDT)

Hi, SJ. I'm php5

It's a long time and I've finished farmking works for this season.

My fellows helped me prepare about 60,000 e-Government modules (services), and I hope to post them onto this wiki, each representing a complete governmental function. I hope that the e-Government will provide 70~80% the same service as those currently about 1,000,000 Kroean governmental employees provide, that it will be used by developing nations without educating hundreds of thousands of their future or potential governmental employees, and that developing nations will save money for their children..

Though I already have detailed list of governmental services and full descriptions of each service, which will be used to program via Open Enterprise Architecture, I have not obtained permission from the Korean government about disclosing all detailed information of the governmental functions. After obtaining the permission, I hope to start the world first open source e-Government program.

Anyway, for presentation tours in Korea (both South and North) scheduled long time ago, I hope to receive at least five (5) B3 or B4 machines this month; ten (10) machines are desirable. Though I have already sent mails and messages to Jim Gettys, Felice and some others, please help me persuade them to send us a few B3/4 machines if you have any chance to meet/talk with OLPC persons.

Sincerely php5 05:05, 6 June 2007 (EDT)

Re: wiki admin?

I'm no expert with wikis, but sure, if it would help. Just let me know what you'd like me to do. —Joe 23:42, 7 June 2007 (EDT)

• Hi sj id really like to be wiki admin, what do you think ?--RafaelOrtiz 21:16, 22 June 2007 (EDT)

Dear sj

A few Koreans have translated eToy and some sample activities in XO. Please let me know what I do for OLPC to include those Korean versions on B4 machines and later.

Is there any convenient way to translate SUGAR into Korean...like PO files for www.laptop.org?

Sincerely php5 04:02, 10 June 2007 (EDT)

game jam wrapup

The letter is at GameJam_BostonJune2007_Wrapup - edit as ye wish. Mchua 16:44, 13 June 2007 (EDT)

wiki mail

Hi! It would seem that since the last update, the wiki-mail interface doesn't work... no mails notifying updates, and can't mail users. Also, new users will probably not get their notification/validation email I guess... can you look into it? Cheers, --Xavi 14:02, 14 June 2007 (EDT)

Weird Template:Game

I was thinking sort of the same when I saw it :) Another alternative (probably that could be reused for what Laure is doing) is to have instead of 'embeding' the text in the template call, have the template embed a sub-page (ie: gamepage/Screenshots)... and have a link to the embeded page (in lieu of the [edit] link for a section—see Template:Include Page). What do you think? Too criptic? --Xavi 12:31, 20 June 2007 (EDT)

Activity Development links

Here are some ideas for links from the front page (if that's appropriate), to help activity developers meet olpc standards. Please feel free to write/rewrite text.

Areas that we would like people to know about:

Localization

• Process, specific info: Activity_Translations
• General info: Localization

Sugarize an Activity

• Sugar_Activity_Tutorial
• Sugar_Code_Snippets

Bundle an Activity

• Activity_bundles

Journal datastore interoperability (for saving and retrieving files)

• http://dev.laptop.org/~marco/edit-activity

Collaboration / Sharing

Cliff Schmidt

for B4 and great justice 1425 Western Ave #111 Seattle, WA 98101

Chess Game ?

is there a chess game under development ? (or where should I be looking for that info ?)

see games, and not yet! though there's a simple chess game in PyGame, we need a better interactive and mesh-aware client that can handle kibitzing, optoinal reputation/ranking, &c. Sj talk 14:24, 13 July 2007 (EDT)

Hi sj

Of course OLPC Korea is much interested in Curriculum Jam Manila, and I'm organizing some Korean participants to attend in it. Perhaps next week I will surely receive a few B4 machines, and my Presentations with those machines will be very helpful to attract potential Korean participants.

I don't use scripted uploads at all, only using my both hands and fellows' some help. Please let me know how to display talk sign such as Sj talk . cheers php5 03:17, 14 July 2007 (EDT)

The trick is to be able to separate hundreds of similar edits from other edits. How to do that? Could you let me know how to separate those similar edits? For RC to be useful, until now I have edited mass pages during weekends only during which only a few users visit here.

I have translated PO files of org laptop.org into Korean, but some left unchanged (still in English) as is shown here. Could you fix it for me? I have no account to fix it.

As is shown in Oficina_de_Desenho/Localization, PO files for an Activity, What do you think about providing PO files for other activities such as TamTam, Read, News, Web etc.? It must be very helpful to those without programming backgrounds like me.

cheers php5 05:00, 16 July 2007 (EDT)

Wiki admin privs

Please? Mchua 01:53, 17 July 2007 (EDT)

firefox bookmarks that serve as wiki shortcuts

Thought you might appreciate. Firefox wiki bookmarks Mchua 03:19, 17 July 2007 (EDT)

another cool offline wiki editing thing

http://exelearning.org/ - The eXe project is developing a freely available Open Source authoring application to assist teachers and academics in the publishing of web content without the need to become proficient in HTML or XML markup. eXe can export content as self-contained web pages or as SCORM 1.2 or IMS Content Packages. Mchua 03:47, 17 July 2007 (EDT)

Thanks SJ. See Computers do run the world!

I restored the pages with history; please find another wiki for them. Sj talk 22:33, 20 July 2007 (EDT)

Your Move!216.194.7.112-

a message

on your talk page. Mchua 22:51, 20 July 2007 (EDT)

Mediawiki extension install

From User:Arjs - need to let him know when it's done. See User_talk:Mchua#Media_Wiki_script. Mchua 00:30, 21 July 2007 (EDT)

Its great! thanks. :) Maybe i should add a section on how to embed youtube videos on the Help:Editing page? --Arjs 21:26, 22 July 2007 (EDT)

points for discussion

• What did you and Jackie decide on Wednesday when you talked about SoCon PR? (In particular, is there a date for a publicity launch?) The Game Jam press release is on my laptop, I'll copy-paste it into a SoCon one and send it to you two.
• Set up date/time next week to teleconference with Open Plans. Wednesday and Friday are reportedly good. We can get Lauren to be physically present... if we're not making an en masse OLPC Content trip back next week, maybe I can go back to New York at the end of August, but we should talk with them sooner.
• Reminder - install mediawiki extension.
• Also reminder - test mediawiki install on dev? I'd need access to a mysql database, at least (not sure if there are any other privs I'd need that I lack, I'm far too used to being root on the machines I'm on.)

KLDP(Korean Linux Documentation Project)

I have no idea about the http://gdick.kldp.net/ project. If you need any information about the site, let me know details. I think I can find it because KLDP is a rather small community php5 01:55, 22 July 2007 (EDT)

I have no friends in Taipei, but a few in China. Now I'm actively preparing Jam in Seoul, maybe in a few days, I'll post it on this wiki php5 20:50, 23 July 2007 (EDT)

where is it now?

just checking.

SoCon apps

Try this and let me know what you think. It's not ideal, but I'm trying to figure out how to make the app experience relatively painless... Mchua 04:59, 24 July 2007 (EDT)

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Question

From time to time, I'm using or imitating others' work in this wiki, particularly from you and Xavi, without any notification, because I have no programming or wiki background yet. I thought imitating others is permitted and even strongly recommended by the OLPC phylosophy, learning learning, and this wiki is not an exception. But, I might be wrong...please let me know whether you feel uncovenience by my using various works of you in this wiki such as this. cheers php5 10:44, 24 July 2007 (EDT)

Jam laptops

php5's message made me think - would it be possible to create a box (say, 5) of XOs for Jam loans? People could request the box for a week-long loan, so they can run a local jam... we could put a copy of the Jam Cookbook in there, and some (non-verbal, pictorial, or otherwise close-to-wordless) documentation on how to work the laptops in the box, the requestors would have to pay so many dollars for shipping and etc. but it would be an "OLPC Jam In A Box" and allow folks like Do Young-Min to hold their events without having to scrounge and borrow laptops from everyone within a 500-km radius. Mchua 17:58, 24 July 2007 (EDT)

activity grid prettification

I put the Activity Grid task in Art Wanted.

Please Review

This Document is a very well put together format.[1] Is there any plans to continue this as a past to current format and if not why did this person stop?7/27/07