OLPC:Volunteer Infrastructure Group/2008-09-09
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Greetings
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<hhardy> dogi: hello
<dogi> hi hhardy
* adric (~adric@adsl-160-8-87.asm.bellsouth.net) has joined #olpc-admin
<hhardy> adric: hail
<adric> hi all. Rain and traffic
<hhardy> hi I'm back in town but haven't read rt or email yet I'm still
officially onvacation till tomorrow
<hhardy> yeah I drove from near Albany today to Boston and it was pouring
until the lasthour
rt
<hhardy> how's rt?
<dogi> hhardy: i send u an invitation mail for my B-Day ...
<hhardy> I was thinking we could do some of the categorizing and rtfm stuff
likesupport0gang has
<adric> hhardy: Seems to still be up :) I'm still getting up to speed, and
getting mychops back
<hhardy> adam holt can tell you about some of that stuff or ffm, culseg,
others
<adric> Ah, right. Yeah, and 3.8 has a ll kinds of orgaizaing tricks
<hhardy> it would be nice to track things over time such as tickets epened,
tickets currently open, tickets closed, and composition of the type of ticket w/in a queue
<lfaraone|ffm> oh, hello people.
<hhardy> Kim and I would like a "bird's eye view" some meaningful metrics as
far as the sysadmin queue
* lfaraone|ffm thanks hhardy for reminding him.
<adric> Oh, yes. We've tried to use a custom field for that in help@ with
some succes
<adric> Right
<lfaraone|ffm> hhardy: I was wondering how _I_ can get involved with the VIG.
<hhardy> well since you are hear first say what you know and can do and who
you are
(optionally)
<hhardy> *here <hhardy> there is a lsit of things we would like to have done on the wiki page <hhardy> and you can edit the discussion page there <hhardy> there is a mailing list which is kind of light right now <hhardy> and this channel
Introductions
<lfaraone|ffm> hhardy: Well, I'm a wikipedia admin, as well as one on w.l.o, who
has some experience with bots.
<lfaraone|ffm> I'm also pretty good with server adminining, running 3 at home
and 2 at my school.
<hhardy> isforinsects is organizing a wiki gang
<hhardy> our involvement in wiki would be maintaining the backend, web server,
database, backups, upgrades
wiki.laptop.org defacement and deltion issues
<adric> we definitely need help with automated wiki defense. Got hit at least
twice this weekend
<hhardy> performance metrics
<isforinsects> Whoops, I slipped the meeting, hi all
<hhardy> yep need defense bots in action
<lfaraone|ffm> hhardy: I can do upgrades, some backend management, mailing list
admin, trac, git matinence, and wiki extentions.
<dogi> hi isforinsects
<hhardy> ffm you have any ideas about wiki bots for defending?
<lfaraone|ffm> hhardy: yes, cluebot.
<hhardy> isfor any news on that one bandito
<lfaraone|ffm> hhardy: however it requires some extra summaries.
<hhardy> the one who was obcessed w/ final fantasy?
<isforinsects> lfaraone|ffm, we badly need someone to run a cluebot.
<isforinsects> Well, possibly not a cluebot.
<hhardy> grunch, glorp named somethng like that?
<isforinsects> gwarp
<hhardy> yeah
<lfaraone|ffm> hhardy: grawp.
<isforinsects> and he's a Harry Potter fan :P
<hhardy> according to wikipedia he has dozens of aliases and reflectors
<adric> The skidiot?
<lfaraone|ffm> hhardy: mhm.
<isforinsects> http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Grawp
<lfaraone|ffm> hhardy: IMHO, cluebot would work nicely assuming we can get the heuristics written well.
<adric> Oh, it's on ED, eh. Must be true.
<isforinsects> The issue with cluebot is non-english strings
<hhardy> http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Grawp
<lfaraone|ffm> isforinsects: oh, php can't handle it?
<hhardy> oops that paste was meant for browser :)
<lfaraone|ffm> isforinsects: how about
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:VoABot_II or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MartinBot4647 ?
<isforinsects> You tell me.
<lfaraone|ffm> (two other bots, we can prolly get the source)
<isforinsects> If you want to take on the project, coordinate with cjl and
myself.
<isforinsects> and give us a breakdown
<isforinsects> cjl has also done research on this.
<isforinsects> dogi almost got what bot running the other day?
<isforinsects> He was working on it at 1cc with SJ
<dogi> cluebot
<lfaraone|ffm> isforinsects: kk.
<hhardy> isforinsects: how are things at 1cc?
ACTION ITEMS
<hhardy> ok it seems we had some ACTION ITEMS: there
<hhardy> let's pull those out so we can grep for them
<hhardy> who will do bots for wiki anti-vandal patrol?
<adric> hhardy: Was there an agenda to-night? I was late getting on
<isforinsects> ACTION ITEM: ffm: let's coordinate between is4, cjl, dogi and you
on the VIG list?
<hhardy> no agenda I just got back in town
<lfaraone|ffm> isforinsects: sure
<hhardy> I probably have > 10,000 emails to sort through tomorrow
<dogi> is4: ok
<lfaraone|ffm> hhardy: lol, prolly
<adric> hhardy: Vacations are risky due to what you have to come back to :D
<hhardy> 10046 actually and counting
<hhardy> has anyone heard from noah recently about trac?
<lfaraone|ffm> hhardy: hrn?
<hhardy> (hrn?)?
No news on content server
<hhardy> any news on content server? <hhardy> reasonably fast transcoding whould be part of that + big pipe
rt spam
<hhardy> has the spam situation on rt:help improved sincw e got the barracuda
implemented better?
<lfaraone|ffm> hhardy: somewhat... not really.
<adric> hmm .. maybe? Do we have metric no that?
<lfaraone|ffm> hhardy: when exactly was that impelmented?
<hhardy> cjl has been getting good stats
<hhardy> before I left so 2 weeks ago
<hhardy> mail to rt.l.o is now to go through the barracuda as well as that to
l.o
<hhardy> let me check the mx records
<adric> only one mx for either .. diff ips
<hhardy> kids, don't try this at home, nslookup is deprecated, use dig :)
<hhardy> root@thinker:~# nslookup
<hhardy> > set type=mx
<hhardy> > laptop.org
<hhardy> Server: 18.85.2.138
<hhardy> Address: 18.85.2.138#53
<hhardy> laptop.org mail exchanger = 10 pedal.laptop.org.
<hhardy> laptop.org mail exchanger = 5 spam.laptop.org.
<hhardy> > rt.laptop.org
<adric> nslookup, lol
<hhardy> Server: 18.85.2.138
<hhardy> Address: 18.85.2.138#53
<hhardy> rt.laptop.org mail exchanger = 10 spam.laptop.org.
<hhardy> old brain, old synapses lol
<adric> Weird, when I dig I'm only getting one mx for either..
<hhardy> hmmm I expected to see a secondary MX for rt in case of Barracuda is
down
<hhardy> I will ask MB about that
<adric> kk ..
<hhardy> I know Barracuda goes down when it updates its databases
<hhardy> anyway I think it is required by RFC's
Recruitment
<adric> My only immediate concerns re: RT are where's holt? :) and Can I have
minions plskthx?
<hhardy> sure find some good minions lol
<hhardy> I don't have them in my back pocket
<hhardy> lcukily for them
<adric> Yeah .. help@ really needs help categorized
<hhardy> gregdek might have a source of minions
<gregdek> Hm?
<hhardy> the fedora infrastructure group
<adric> , er raather with (re)categorization
<hhardy> adric was asking for minions to help with rt
<hhardy> I said sure go get some
<adric> I'm revving up on the tickets from holt, bt we need some legwork
<adric> Other than that I've got plenty of work to do, all laid out :)
<hhardy> the people who made rt are friends and are local I suspect they will
answer quesitons also theres the rt chan at irc.perl.org
<adric> Yes :) I'm trying to triage our rt met tickets to find out what we
need to ask BP about.
<hhardy> irc.perl.org:#rt
<adric> oh yes, I've been a bother there :)
database hot backups
<hhardy> gregdek: or whomever--a need we have is to identify all our critical
databases and make scripts to back them up regularly and to verify the backups
<hhardy> adric: good
<gregdek> What kind of dbs? mysql?
<adric> And the rt-users list is noisy, but quite helpful
<hhardy> mysql and postgres
* gregdek nods.
<hhardy> I've got lot of TB free on grinch so there is root and we can rsync
stuff over to there in an automated way
<hhardy> we can use my simple scripts to move stuff to grinch we just need a
nice hot backup for all the db
<hhardy> *room not root above lol
<hhardy> freudian slip?
<adric> Sure, sounds lovely. Jsut need to find hot copy for the DBs
<hhardy> if people are looking for a one-off project thats a good high
priority one which would be low hanging fruit if accomplished
<hhardy> ACTION ITEM: find someone to coordinate making the inventory of
databases and making and testing the hot backup proceudres
<hhardy> any other low hanging fruit type things come to mind?
rt needs
<adric> Legwork in RT, but I'm not sure j random helper could help much.
<hhardy> isforinsects: ping
<hhardy> I kind of want people doing things they know very well how to do
<isforinsects> pong hhardy
<hhardy> at least enough to not make a mess
* isforinsects reads back
<adric> Oh I agree. This is something I wasn't able to keep up with before
VIG happened, lol
<hhardy> do you want to tidy up the logs, I will give your user on thinker
access to my irclogs
<adric> Yeah. We need a plan to organzize the tickets for everyone, but
there's always going to leg work sifting the uncategorized, or worse, recategorizing if make a major organizational change
<hhardy> as far as meeting log
<isforinsects> are we adjourning now?
<hhardy> shortly
<isforinsects> when you say adjourn I'll stopp logging and post
<isforinsects> So, yes
<hhardy> ACTION ITEM: need a vlounteer to help triage
<hhardy> did you have a bot on the 1st 15 min?
<adric> .... which ward?
<isforinsects> Yes, I have the entire meeting.
<hhardy> I am tired still I was sardined into a compact car
<adric> Yikes
<hhardy> ok good for now, see you next week or on the list or here whenever
<hhardy> yes yikes indeed
<adric> Thanks, hhardy , bye all!