Talk:Designs/Frame

In pictures 09 and 10, the 'turn on' / 'turn off' checkbox seems a bit confusing. I'm presuming that the label switched from 'turn on' to 'turn off' depending on the state of the checkbox, and likewise the box switches from a tick to a cross? If so, this seems inconsistent with the standard checkbox UI on Mac/Windows/etc (and also on the web). Which isn't necessarily a bad thing, but I'd be interested to know if there was a good reason for this, and whether it has been tested or not. Frankie Roberto 05:37, 2 March 2008 (EST)

This user behavior is similar to how you unmount/mount drives in linux desktops, where there is an option to 'mount' or to 'dismount/eject' depending. Perhaps you are looking at the 'check' icon and assuming it is a 'check box', when it is generally used in Sugar for 'ok', 'go', etc., like you see in the Enter key. P.S.-I'm not involved with the design of Sugar. HoboPrimate 13:18, 2 March 2008 (EST)

I think you might actually mean slides 8 & 9. The main difference in the approach is that in our design, the menu item represents an action, quite literally, and the icon is meant to add clarity to the textual description of that action. In a "normal" menu, you might expect to find either a) a textual description of an action which changes based on state eg. "show grid" or "hide grid" with no graphical accompaniment, or b) a textual description of a state which remains fixed, but is accompanied by a check when active eg. "grid shown" or "√ grid shown". In our case, the main problem with respect to the "turn off" action is that an empty checkbox would look mostly like a square, which is lacking in meaning. The "close" button, used throughout sugar to mean cancel, close, or erase, we thought would instill the correct idea regarding the action, and is often juxtaposed next to the check which usually means enable or accept. -Eben