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[ AGENDA ] * New projects & libraries -- teaching them Community Outreach: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XO_Laptop_Lending_Libraries * Which projects might you enjoy Mentoring below?! http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Projects http://rt.laptop.org/Search/Results.html?Query=Queue=%27contributors%27 * Fast Review of the 5 latest (greatest!) HW/Project Proposals -- please join us advocating for, and/or reviewing shortcomings of these proposals: #1 OLPC on Puppy Linux - Quakers Hill, NSW, Australia #2 Using XO Technology Awareness on HIV/AIDS among children ages 4–16 - Kenya #3 GaiaBB - Shared Community Software - Victoria, Australia #4 FotoToon - Buenos Aires, Argentina #5 XO Bookwriting / photo-interviewing traveling musician - Sallis, Mississippi/MS, USA [ INTROS ] <yabasta> it's about that time, no? <felix_trepanier> yes, but it seems that these meetings do not happen every week <yabasta> ah <felix_trepanier> anyone knows if there is suppose to be one today <felix_trepanier> É <felix_trepanier> ? <yabasta > I received an email for today * Caryl has joined #olpc-meeting <felix_trepanier> ok then...I guess that means it will happen <yabasta> =) * sdziallas Quit ("Ex-Chat") * Caryl_1 has joined #olpc-meeting <Caryl_1> Hello? <felix_trepanier> Hi <yabasta> hi Caryl_1: the meeting has not started yet it seems <Caryl_1> Is this the CP meeting? <felix_trepanier> Contributors program? <felix_trepanier> yes, I think it is <Caryl_1> Yes <felix_trepanier> That what I'm trying to join :) <godiard> hello, i have applied to the program <yabasta> it is. the email said today 2pm boston time/EDT <yabasta> perhaps they are giving time for everyone to arrive <godiard> i am working, but try to see the chat <felix_trepanier> Caryl, aren't you one of the OLPC mentors? <Caryl_1> Yes. I have several projects I am mentoring <felix_trepanier> Great, I think you are mentoring mine <yabasta> Caryl_1: that's great to hear <Caryl_1> Which one is that? <felix_trepanier> Enfants pour l'Education <felix_trepanier> with Mafe <Caryl_1> Ah, yes... Mafe is doing most of that. I don't speak French... only English and Spanish :-) <felix_trepanier> hehe <felix_trepanier> actually, I haven't heard of Mafe in a while and we are in the process of starting it <Caryl_1> OK have you updated your software to 802? <felix_trepanier> I mean rolling it out in the school * Caryl Quit ("CGI:IRC") <felix_trepanier> not yet * sdziallas has joined #olpc-meeting <Caryl_1> You have your machines? <felix_trepanier> I'm still waiting to hear on when I'll be able to get the other XOs <felix_trepanier> I got 2 for now <Caryl_1> Ah. * atphalix has joined #olpc-meeting <felix_trepanier> I was allocated 10 a few months ago <Caryl_1> What was the condition for the other 8? <felix_trepanier> It was depending on if the machine could do what I needed <felix_trepanier> as far as I remembered <Caryl_1> We should look at your ticket and see. <felix_trepanier> ok...but I don't want to hijack this meeting <felix_trepanier> so when would be the best time to do that? <Caryl_1> Do you know the ticket number? <felix_trepanier> #42243 <yabasta> excuse me for one moment <Caryl_1> I'll take a peek while we wait for Adam, meanwhile, comeone should ping him to be sure we are in the right place <felix_trepanier> thanks <CanoeBerry> Sorry i'm so late!! <yabasta> back <CanoeBerry> Hope y'all started making decisions on the 5 projects? <CanoeBerry> Or can we start with Project #1 now? <yabasta> I wasn't sure we were supposed to begin discussing the projects. I assumed we were waiting... <CanoeBerry> Agenda Here: http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2009-October/025840.html [ PROJECT #1 : OLPC on Puppy Linux - Quakers Hill, NSW, Australia ] <CanoeBerry> Please all help review Project #1 now here! <CanoeBerry> 1. OLPC on Puppy Linux - Quakers Hill, NSW, Australia <CanoeBerry> http://rt.laptop.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=48455 <CanoeBerry> [ MISSING PUBLIC PAGE OFF OF http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Projects ] <CanoeBerry> Requests 2 XO's over undetermined months <CanoeBerry> Project Objectives: <CanoeBerry> C0-Build a Puppy Linux version. Compile package, provide ongoing <CanoeBerry> support, troubleshoot, build a repo etc. <Caryl_1> Looks like he has a willing mentor in James C <yabasta> I'm a linux guru; I'm currently running Ubuntu. Is the purpose of running Puppy Linux to have a lighweight *nix OS on the XO? <yabasta> *I'm not a linux guru <--- ha <Caryl_1> Dumb Q: How is Puppy different from Pippy? <CanoeBerry> Very diff! <CanoeBerry> Any technical criticisms of this project? Let's decide quick. * yabasta backs away <yabasta> technical criticisms are not my area of expertise. <CanoeBerry> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puppy_Linux <Caryl_1> What will puppy do for kids? * bemasc has joined #olpc-meeting <TMarques> Hi all <CanoeBerry> Good question. Still I say let's approve this project, since it has a mentor, unless objections? <felix_trepanier> Will they run sugar over it? <yabasta> hi TMarques <CanoeBerry> TMarques & bemasc: objections to Puppy Linux? <TMarques> for one, puppy is lightweight <Caryl_1> Sounds good... maybe they can do other things too. <TMarques> no, I'm all for it <CanoeBerry> Calling once... <CanoeBerry> +1 <yabasta> if everyone else is for it, I'm for it. I trust you all <CanoeBerry> Calling twice... <TMarques> Fedora 9 is quite heavy on the XO-1, haven't looked at F11 though, but expect it to be a memory hog <yabasta> besides, it does interest me <CanoeBerry> APPROVED. <TMarques> puppy would be nice [ PROJECT #2 : Using XO Technology Awareness on HIV/AIDS among children ages 4–16 - Kenya ] <CanoeBerry> Onto Project #2 now -- plz help advocate for / critique here: <CanoeBerry> Using XO Technology Awareness on HIV/AIDS among children ages 4–16 - <CanoeBerry> Kenya <CanoeBerry> http://rt.laptop.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=48476 <CanoeBerry> http://rt.laptop.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=43608 <CanoeBerry> http://xoaidsbyhoc.tumblr.com [ LINK NEEDED FROM <CanoeBerry> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Projects ] <CanoeBerry> Requests 8 XO's over 2-6 months <CanoeBerry> Project Objectives: <CanoeBerry> 1. To help child get basic computer skills using xo laptop <CanoeBerry> 2. Pupils/ Learners to use xo activities to get awareness of HIV/AIDS. <CanoeBerry> 3. To equip the teacher with necessary xo skills to help the learner <CanoeBerry> in HIV/AIDSawareness. <CanoeBerry> 4. To use xo laptop to deliver life skills that will lead to Aids <CanoeBerry> free life <CanoeBerry> 5. Identify appropriate sources o information on HIv/ Aids related <CanoeBerry> issues. <CanoeBerry> 6. Make decisions about personal and social behaviour that reduce <CanoeBerry> risk of HIV and STD infection using the XO technology. <CanoeBerry> 7. Show compassion towards and concern for those infected and <CanoeBerry> affected by v <CanoeBerry> 8. Communicate effectively with peers and others, issues and concerns <CanoeBerry> related to HIV/AIDS and STDs using the XO chat <CanoeBerry> 9. To be actively involved in school and out activities aimed at <CanoeBerry> prevention and central of HIV and STD's infections <yabasta> my mind is is made up on this one. this is the project of the 5 (excluding me, eh). I am all for this one <yabasta> it not only utilizes XO in a wonderful way, but it has very practical purposes <CanoeBerry> yabasta: plz explain more if you can <yabasta> okay <yabasta> I'm from Mississippi, US, we have the highest rate of STD infections in the US <CanoeBerry> This group has done group work, but their publication track record needs work. <Caryl_1> What software will they use? <CanoeBerry> *done good work <yabasta> we have almost zero sex education support of any kind in classrooms * sdziallas Quit ("Ex-Chat") <CanoeBerry> (Kenya) <Caryl_1> Sex Ed in the US is a difficult thing. I used to have to teach it. <Caryl_1> Parents can opt out <yabasta> so I think any education of diseases, especially in countries where this scourge has especially affected young children who will one day grow up to be adults...and have to make choices.... I think awareness is key <Caryl_1> lots of religious sensibilities <yabasta> yes, religious sensibilities. welcome to the bible belt <Caryl_1> :-) <CanoeBerry> This is a continuation of http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Projects/HIV_Awareness_Among_Kenya_Children <bemasc> CanoeBerry: yeah, this only makes sense if they are going to produce a writeup/guide. <yabasta> hm <bemasc> Otherwise... informing 8 children about HIV should not require $1600-worth of hardware. <CanoeBerry> Exactly: their past 3 XOs haven't yet produced public materials. <yabasta> that is definitely an issue * daveb has joined #olpc-meeting <CanoeBerry> MOTION: mentoring must produce their draft materials from August before these follow on 8 XOs are shipped. <CanoeBerry> (Current mentor..) <Caryl_1> If they can produce a useful curriculum that can be adapted/adopted it could be good, but if they already have 3 and haven't produced yet... let's wait <CanoeBerry> Can we agree? <yabasta> agreed. <CanoeBerry> Let's conclude Project #2 here. <bemasc> ok <Caryl_1> that is to wait? <CanoeBerry> Objections to the conditional approval described above? <TMarques> none <felix_trepanier> nope <CanoeBerry> Caryl_1: read MOTION above = conditional approval <CanoeBerry> Final objections? <CanoeBerry> Calling once.. <bemasc> CanoeBerry: depends on whether "their draft materials" show forward movement <CanoeBerry> Yes <bemasc> ok <CanoeBerry> Calling twice.. <Caryl_1> ok <yabasta> =) <CanoeBerry> CONCLUSION: Conditional Approval pending drafts materials from their August startup phase. [ PROJECT #3 : GaiaBB - Shared Community Software - Victoria, Australia ] <CanoeBerry> Onto Project #3 now -- plz review: <CanoeBerry> GaiaBB: Proposal for shared community software - Victoria, Australia <CanoeBerry> http://rt.laptop.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=48637 <CanoeBerry> [ http://gaiabb.com forthcoming; LINK NEEDED FROM <CanoeBerry> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Projects ] <CanoeBerry> Requests 2 XO's over 8 months <CanoeBerry> Project Objectives: <CanoeBerry> I would like make a proposal to re-purpose my general purpose forum <CanoeBerry> software (GaiaBB) to be XO community specific, using a peer to peer <CanoeBerry> replication to allow kids to create and contribute to their own easily <CanoeBerry> managed forums maintained on their laptops with no central server. <CanoeBerry> Typically, forum software requires a database backend, but is actually <CanoeBerry> very small footprint as long as you don't allow image attachments. <CanoeBerry> Allowing peer to peer replication of the data between participants <CanoeBerry> would allow them to grab updates to the forum when they're in range <CanoeBerry> say in school, and answer / reply to threads when off radio, say at <CanoeBerry> home. <CanoeBerry> Mentor already assigned! * bemasc approves <TMarques> sadly the site seems nonfunctional <CanoeBerry> Site not yet ready. <yabasta> this one is good. I'd love to see how that turns out. <TMarques> otherwise, seems good <Caryl_1> Does he have students with XOs? <CanoeBerry> Quick decision -- shall we approve pending live site? <TMarques> when I read "repurpose", I thought he already had a demo of the original there, sorry <yabasta> yes <Caryl_1> wait! <Caryl_1> 2 XOs for how many kids? Are there other XOs there? <bemasc> No kids. 2 XOs for development of collaborative software. <CanoeBerry> +1 <yabasta> Caryl_1, I just assumed they were developing it and would obtain more machines later on. <Caryl_1> How will it be shared? <Caryl_1> Will this be an Activity that others can download? <CanoeBerry> Sharing will occur over developer mailing lists. <CanoeBerry> Let us conclude. <CanoeBerry> Final objections? <bemasc> It's PHP. <TMarques> none <CanoeBerry> +1 <CanoeBerry> Calling once.. <yabasta> no objections here <felix_trepanier> +1 <Caryl_1> neutral <bemasc> It's unlikely to really show up in Sugar, but I think it's still worthwhile as proof of principle/algorithms design. <CanoeBerry> Great summary. <CanoeBerry> Calling twice.. <CanoeBerry> APPROVED. [ PROJECT #4 - FotoToon - Buenos Aires, Argentina ] <CanoeBerry> Onto Project #4 now -- please help review.. <CanoeBerry> FotoToon - Buenos Aires, Argentina <CanoeBerry> http://rt.laptop.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=48696 <CanoeBerry> [ MISSING PUBLIC PAGE OFF OF http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Projects ] <CanoeBerry> Requests 2 XO's over 6 months <CanoeBerry> Project Objectives: <CanoeBerry> I have developed the following Activities in Spanish: <CanoeBerry> ActivityDomino http://activities.sugarlabs.org/es-ES/sugar/addon/4212 <CanoeBerry> Ecomundo http://activities.sugarlabs.org/es-ES/sugar/addon/4213 <CanoeBerry> Elements http://activities.sugarlabs.org/es-ES/sugar/addon/4214 <CanoeBerry> I am developing an activity to create comics, FotoToon. <CanoeBerry> (git http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/fototoon/ ). <CanoeBerry> Who likes it? :) <Caryl_1> This developer already has 3 Activities on the Sugar Labs site with a total of over 20,000 downloads <felix_trepanier> Sounds great! * dsaxena_away is now known as dsaxena <bemasc> +1 <CanoeBerry> +1 <Caryl_1> He is a winner! <TMarques> +1 <yabasta> I don't really have an opinion on this one. I've never even touched an XO and I'm not sure of the usefulness of this project due to this fact. But any type of artistic expression is always good. <Caryl_1> +1 <CanoeBerry> Objections? <CanoeBerry> Calling once.. <CanoeBerry> Calling twice.. <yabasta> so I will +1 this once solely on the artistic merit <CanoeBerry> APPROVED