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==== Food grade plastic options ====
==== Food grade plastic options ====


* PETE - what water bottles are made from. Way too soft.
* PETE - what water bottles are made from. Way too soft.
* polypropylene - what milk jugs are made from. Way too soft.
* polypropylene - what milk jugs are made from. Way too soft.
* polyethylene, both high and low density - what plastic takeout containters are made from. Way too soft, and scratches really easily.
* polyethylene, both high and low density - what plastic takeout containters are made from. Way too soft, and scratches really easily.
* polystyrene - what disposable drinking cups are made from. Brittle; if you've ever been at a party and accidentally squeezed your glass too hard, you know it splits and shatters.
* polystyrene - what disposable drinking cups are made from. Brittle; if you've ever been at a party and accidentally squeezed your glass too hard, you know it splits and shatters.
* polycarbonate - lexan is one example. It's impact resistant but can crack if it falls, but is rigid, machinable, and costs as much as aluminum by weight (according to [http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0471135763/sr=8-1/qid=1146881409/ref=pd_bbs_1/103-6797242-9208632?%5Fencoding=UTF8 Callister])
* polycarbonate - lexan is one example. It's impact resistant but can crack if it falls, but is rigid, machinable, and costs as much as aluminum by weight (according to [http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0471135763/sr=8-1/qid=1146881409/ref=pd_bbs_1/103-6797242-9208632?%5Fencoding=UTF8 Callister])


update - found this [http://www.checnet.org/healtheHouse/education/quicklist-detail.asp?Main_ID=353 page on food grade plastics], looks like we covered most everything here. --[[user:mchua|mchua]]
update - found this [http://www.checnet.org/healtheHouse/education/quicklist-detail.asp?Main_ID=353 page on food grade plastics], looks like we covered most everything here. --[[user:mchua|mchua]]

Revision as of 01:22, 18 June 2006

This page needs to be moved to "laptop case" in the category "Hardware ideas". Furthermore, please try to limit the opinions of other people's ideas and save it for the discussion pages. If you think someone has a particularly good or bad idea, say so in the discussion page. This discussion/argument/feud can be noted in the article, but in a less familiar style.

The Case

Longevity

The more rugged and "fixable" using local materials that the case and parts are, the more chance that the $100 laptop could be a laptop for life, or passed on to the next generation for use. Total cost of ownership should be kept to $100 - not just the initial outlay. It also might allow people to customise the object and so integrate it socially through creative endevaours (rather than have a pre-packaged 'consumable' solution).

Customizable while still remaining standardized; if one child's laptop breaks, they should be able to easily take out their hard drive and swap it into a neighbor's computer to recover & complete their work (all 225 underclassmen at my college have the same laptop, which makes it easy for IT to help us and a lifesaver when your system board fries the week of finals). Over time (especially if these are rugged and will last for years), I hope the components from different versions will still be compatible with each other in this way. --user:mchua

Point of failure concern: Consider a form factor that does not have a single point connection between the 'base' and the screen. The pivot point that the display 'twists' on in some of the mockups is ripe for a point of failure. If the need for an externally facing display is required (for tablet-style interactions) consider a 'fold-over' design that puts the display and the keyboard back to back. --RossOlson

Point of failure concern: Use of laptop as table could damage the screen. Case should needs extra durability like toy plastic to allow child rough housing.--hckhckhck

Should food grade plastic be used?

I have had the thought that it would be a good idea for the case of the laptop to be moulded in food grade plastic. I cannot entirely justify that suggestion on scientific grounds, it is more aesthetic grounds, though one cannot rule out the possibility that some child somewhere will place his or her food on top of the closed laptop and use the case as a table for sandwiches or the like. However, I feel that it would be good for the case to be moulded from food grade plastic if that is possible.

William Overington

19 March 2006

Is food grade plastic necessary? I've eaten sandwiches & cereal off my laptop case with no trouble, and as long as the kids aren't storing hot chili on top of it for weeks at a time, I think it should be fine, even if a baby were to chew on the corner of the case for a while. They shouldn't be using these as food containers anyhow, since they've got to open the case to work, presumably (and they'll have bowls and such around before they get these laptops). But I did talk to one of my friends who's a matsci major, so here's a list of some common food-grade plastics and how they'd work. Her name is Beth Sterling, and she's willing to talk to folks about this if people want to talk about case materials (polymers & metals are her specialties). Email elizabeth dot sterling _ at _ students dot olin.edu, or talk to me and I'll get you in touch. user:mchua

Food grade plastic options

  • PETE - what water bottles are made from. Way too soft.
  • polypropylene - what milk jugs are made from. Way too soft.
  • polyethylene, both high and low density - what plastic takeout containters are made from. Way too soft, and scratches really easily.
  • polystyrene - what disposable drinking cups are made from. Brittle; if you've ever been at a party and accidentally squeezed your glass too hard, you know it splits and shatters.
  • polycarbonate - lexan is one example. It's impact resistant but can crack if it falls, but is rigid, machinable, and costs as much as aluminum by weight (according to Callister)

update - found this page on food grade plastics, looks like we covered most everything here. --mchua

Thank you for taking the time to consider this matter.

The referenced document is interesting.

It includes the following.

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  1. 5 PP (polypropylene): used in rigid containers, including some baby bottles, and some cups and bowls.

end quote

This seems at variance with the statement about polypropylene above.

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  • polypropylene - what milk jugs are made from. Way too soft.

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It may be the case that there are various hardness grades of polypropylene and it may be that some polypropylene is food-grade and some is not, depending upon what is in it, such as colouring.

However, an answer to the question about whether food-grade plastic is to be used for the case in one of the FAQ documents has appeared and the answer to the question has been stated as No.

William Overington

2006-05-06 0730Z

Other case material options

* aluminum - light, cheap, durable; Beth suggests 6061.
* sheet metal - high-carbon steel, either 1020 or 1040. It's even cheaper, rigid, impact-resistant, strong, and really easy to machine (stamp & bend and you've got yourself a case).

Could food grade plastic have the necessary rigidity for a case?

How much would using food grade plastic add to the cost of the case?

The colour of the case

Will there be some sort of color coding in the case color? I.e. red to young students, orange to older students, yellow to teachers. Or different colors to different countries/regions.

If the laptop is sold to individuals in developed countries at a somewhat higher cost than $100, would it be a good idea to have the cases moulded in a colour different from the $100 laptops?

For example, maybe a college might buy some for an open access computer room and they would all be one colour and that colour would not be available on the open market for students, so students could easily take their own machines into and out of the computer room with it being entirely clear which laptops were the property of the college and which were not.

The Theft Problem

There is a serious theft problem that must be addressed if this laptop is to be made available in developed countries and that includes many of the orange countries on the map. As long as the laptop is distributed to children only, there will be no adult market for the laptop. In other words, there will be no motivation for adults to steal these laptops from children for their own use.

It is good that these laptops look like toys and are available in distinctive bright colors.

I think that the project leaders need to make a statement on adult availability including the "three for one" pledge that was recently published on Slashdot.

If there is to be any distribution to adults, it should be in a different physical form factor from the one distributed to children. For distribution to developers, it could be in a desktop form factor that runs off mains power, i.e. non-folding ugly functional plastic case. If there is to be a model distributed to adults in the target countries then it should be made in a more traditional dull laptop color and it should have a wifi system that works on DIFFERENT frequencies and with some kind of an incompatibility in the protocol. Adults should not be able to eavesdrop on the kids, pretend to be kids, or send kids inappropriate materials.

This is a serious topic which really needs its own page.

Serious Discussion

This is a serious discussion. Please contribute if you have information that needs to be covered.

Should the case have moulded holes so that the laptop could be carried in the manner of a shoulder bag?

The pictures of three prototypes in the http://www.laptop.org/download.en_US.html web page show that each has a carrying handle.

Would it be a good idea if the laptop were to have at least two moulded holes in the case so that a rugged fabric strip could be attached to two of them so that the laptop could be carried in the manner of a shoulder bag?

Such holes would be an additional feature to the laptop, not instead of the carrying handle.

The holes would need to be "always complete" in the sense that they should not be such that each is made up of two holes which come together when the laptop is closed. If it were otherwise then a carrying strap could not be left in place when the laptop were in use.

The holes would need to have rugged surroundings, a laptop with such holes where the surround of either or both of the holes had broken off leaving a ragged and jagged edge would not be good.

It may be that having such holes would not be a good idea: the idea is put forward for consideration and discussion on the basis that if it is not done then it is better that the possibility had been considered than not considered.

William Overington

7 April 2006

Mechanics

Ruler

add a ruler (with cm spacing and only with cm spacing) to one side of the device.

This is an excellent idea that is in sync with making the cases like a children's object. It is also in sync with the constructionist principles that will be used by content developers. For instance, some content will instruct kids in making objects that need to be specific dimensions. Maths can be taught by using cardboard squares and rectangles of various sizes. But in the 3rd world, the kids will need to make these themselves using palm leaves and tree bark because there is no easy access to cardboard. Having a ruler on the case will help facilitate this type of construction project. Application, content and object can all work together to educate the child.

Wall/Desk mounting

add punch through holes to allow for wall or desk mounting. Eventually hidden in rubber feet (if they are planned). For use in EDV classroom or as embedded device.

Mounting facility for a waveguide can antenna

Eventually a can of proper dimensions could mounted directly onto the OLPC to build a simple waveguide antenna for 802.11b/g. An antenna gain of about 12 dB could be within reach. This would translate into a WLAN range which is increased by a factor of 4 if one side of the WLAN uses it. Factor 16 if both sides of the wireless LAN should be equipped with properly aligned antennae.

You'd need a grounded mounting close to the present WLAN antenna and eventually some notch/slot to mechanically fix the can. There are lots of references on the net, f.e. search for "pringles can antenna".

Privacy and built-in microphones

I'm concerned about the risk of privacy invasion from the built-in microphone. It would be easy to use the laptop as a "bug". Where there are many technically unsophisticated people this could especially be a problem.

Could there be a simple, obvious, and cheap way to enable/disable the microphone, or at least to know when it's on? Here are a few ideas, from ideal to cheap, but I bet there are better ideas:

  • (Ideal) A slide-over for the internal microphone hole, connected internally to a switch. This is intuitive, but now there's a movable and breakable part.
  • An on-off screw near the microphone but turnable by hand, like a switch/knob. People will often forget to turn them on and off.
  • (Cheap) LED right next to microphone that turns on when microphone data is read. Of course, many won't know to look for the light or may not notice that it is on at crucial times.

- David A. Wheeler, dwheeler at dwheeler dot com, June 1, 2006.


External Antenna Port

Most WIFI cards have contact points for external antennas. Such a port would facilitate the use of the project laptop as a server, and add the ability to connect remote locations. DIY plans for antennas made from common metal junk can be found. I think the record for range is over 100 miles. --Hckhckhck 09:50, 24 May 2006 (EDT)