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[ AGENDA ] * New projects & libraries -- teaching them Community Outreach: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XO_Laptop_Lending_Libraries * Which projects might you enjoy Mentoring below?! http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Projects http://rt.laptop.org/Search/Results.html?Query=Queue=%27contributors%27 * Fast Review of the 5 latest (greatest!) HW/Project Proposals -- please join us advocating for, and/or reviewing shortcomings of these proposals: #1 XO Mobile and Lending Library for Haitians - Delray Beach, Florida #2 Apex Communication aid for the earthquake victims of Haiti - Miami, Florida #3 Project Success Links: 3 Projects For Change - Los Angeles area, California #4 Small Solutions/Hands of charity @ Keongo School - Kenya / Newburyport, Massachusetts <Caryl> Had trouble signing in. Had to retype "join #...etc" Brian may have problems too * sandrat has joined #olpc-meeting <Caryl> hi Sandra! <CanoeBerry> Ciao Caryl & Sandra! <CanoeBerry> Brian will be 20min late -- which is fine as his project is #3 -- but keep an eye on him Caryl to make sure he gets onboard then :) <sandrat> Gruessen * culseg has joined #olpc-meeting <sandrat> still reading the Haiti emails and info <Caryl> I had trouble signing in. Brian may also. <Caryl> Adam, did you send the email with the projects? I didn't see it. * Lime-Red-55 has joined #olpc-meeting <Caryl> Hi lime-red do we know you? <CanoeBerry> Alrighty! <Caryl> now I see it. Let me sign out and in again! * Caryl Quit ("CGI:IRC") <CanoeBerry> Lime-Red-55: say a quick hello / introduction if possible! <CanoeBerry> Welcome Sandy. * SweetXOGrannie has joined #olpc-meeting <SweetXOGrannie> I'm back <CanoeBerry> Seems we lost Caryl but she helped preparing several applicants so she'll be back.. <CanoeBerry> Indeed! <CanoeBerry> Shall we do a rolling start? <CanoeBerry> Until others join, let's. <Lime-Red-55> Hi, I am Ishtiaque <Lime-Red-55> I am new in here <CanoeBerry> Welcome Ishtiaque all the way from Bangladesh, unbelievable! <CanoeBerry> Do you sleep? <Lime-Red-55> yes, I do <Lime-Red-55> it is 1 am in bangladesh <CanoeBerry> OK, we'll get moving then. <Lime-Red-55> and I will sleep after some time <CanoeBerry> Agenda here: http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2010-January/027241.html * esk-d00d has joined #olpc-meeting [ PROJECT #1 - XO Mobile and Lending Library for Haitians - Delray Beach, Florida ] <CanoeBerry> Please all help us now review/critique/vote/advocate for Project #1 here: * esk-d00d is now known as EricKenvin <CanoeBerry> 1. XO Mobile and Lending Library for Haitians - Delray Beach, Florida <CanoeBerry> http://rt.laptop.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=54958 <CanoeBerry> [SPECIFIC SITE NEEDS TO BE POSTED OFF <CanoeBerry> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Projects ] <CanoeBerry> Requests 3 XOs over 24 months <CanoeBerry> Project Objectives: <CanoeBerry> Immediate/Short term objective: help Haitian children in Delray Beach <CanoeBerry> help <CanoeBerry> their families make contact with people in Haiti due to the 2010 <CanoeBerry> earth quake. <CanoeBerry> Plan and Procedure for Achieving the Stated Objectives: <CanoeBerry> Connect with the Haitian community here is Delray Beach thru <CanoeBerry> organizations <CanoeBerry> such as the Catholic church and schedule locations where the XOs can <CanoeBerry> be taken <CanoeBerry> and made available for use primarily as a means of finding friends <CanoeBerry> and family <CanoeBerry> via established web sites such as <CanoeBerry> http://www.familylinks.icrc.org/haiti/people. <CanoeBerry> Once people are found the XOs can be used to communicate with those <CanoeBerry> in Haiti. <CanoeBerry> EricKenvin: please say a quick hello/intro if you can! <CanoeBerry> And help us approve/deny these 4 OLPC/XO/Sugar projects here if poss. <CanoeBerry> Is the applicant here to help introduce the above project? <cjb> how will the laptops get to haiti? <cjb> the news today said the airport is jammed full of arriving planes :) <CanoeBerry> They won't if I understand this project correctly. <CanoeBerry> But I need to read it more carefully. <cjb> oh <cjb> ok <cjb> aren't there already public computers available in that area, e.g. at a public library? <EricKenvin> hello, I'm an RIT student currently working on an educational game intended to teach 4th grade math <CanoeBerry> No doubt. The applicant has however started her own library with 4+ XO she purchased, and now seeks to expand it. <EricKenvin> they probably don't have power at the moment though <CanoeBerry> Elcome Eric. <SweetXOGrannie> I can help explain. Some of these people are of undocumented status. They would be more comfortable in the church or other safe setting <CanoeBerry> EricKenvin: for background on our Haiti discussions please see http://twitter.com/olpc and http://blog.laptop.org where Haiti's power issues have begun to be discussed. <CanoeBerry> EG. http://twitter.com/OLPC/status/7781637509 <CanoeBerry> And http://blog.laptop.org/2010/01/15/mobilizing-haiti-apply-for-free-ruggedized-laptop/ * jeremyflores has joined #olpc-meeting <sandrat> Power has got to be a problem in haiti itself, but this project is to setup in Delray beach to connect to Haiti right ? <CanoeBerry> jeremyflores: welcome <CanoeBerry> sandrat: yes <SweetXOGrannie> this project is in Florida <CanoeBerry> SweetXOGrannie: will you mentor or is it more realistic to find someone else given you imminent monthlong trip? <sandrat> is there a possiblity that the power solutions can get delivered to the OLPC location? <CanoeBerry> jeremyflores: please feel free to introduce yourself and help us constructively critique today's 4 projects! <SweetXOGrannie> Someone in FL would be ideal <sandrat> Florida - might benefit from something like Frontline SMS .. uses cell phones to get emergency info and post it on a website <raphsabb> i know for a fact that there is power in haiti(in case someone needed to know) <CanoeBerry> sandrat: make your power question more specific please -- OLPC's Contributors Program does not provide electricity-related peripherals at this time. <SweetXOGrannie> I would love to stay as a co-mentor to help with the library part after the communication need subsides <CanoeBerry> raphsabb: welcome! <raphsabb> hi all <cjb> Haiti's net connection is down, but I guess it might come back later <raphsabb> its up <SweetXOGrannie> Hi Raphael! <raphsabb> i am currently chatting with my mother <SweetXOGrannie> :) <raphsabb> YES <CanoeBerry> raphsabb: huge thanks for the hard on-the-groun info. <CanoeBerry> Let's conclude. <raphsabb> no problem <CanoeBerry> I vote yes for Delray Beach's library having talk to her by phone, but also believing she needs ongoing mentoring, I and Caryl can co-mentor but who else? <CanoeBerry> raphsabb: can you? * tabs has joined #olpc-meeting * SweetXOGrannie Quit ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") <CanoeBerry> tabs: Ciao to the sleepy side of the world! <sandrat> if the plan is for Florida to connect to XOs in Haiti .. we need to know about power in that Haiti location <tabs> good morning <raphsabb> I am making a request also <CanoeBerry> Morning New Zealand. <CanoeBerry> raphsabb: your request (Project #2 today) follows next, as soon we vote here. <CanoeBerry> Please vote now. * SweetXOGrannie has joined #olpc-meeting * carolruthsilver has joined #olpc-meeting <raphsabb> right I was just saying I dont think I can mentor? <sandrat> I'd love to see if we could port or use SMS to receive person location data.. would provide info on that <CanoeBerry> Thanks all for please voting on Project's #1 above. <SweetXOGrannie> having lots of problems with irc <SweetXOGrannie> +1 <CanoeBerry> carolruthsilver: welcome from San Francisco (or are you in Afghanistan?) <sandrat> +1 <EricKenvin> +1 <CanoeBerry> +1 if mentor assigned. <CanoeBerry> Mentor please? <SweetXOGrannie> I will co-mentor <Lime-Red-55> I say, YES ... I would love to see how OLPC s perform in making "hastily Formed Networks" to help the victims <sandrat> I will co- <carolruthsilver> In SF, and apologies for being late, I was having trouble finding you. I won't vote on #1, but will listen/look next. <CanoeBerry> raphsabb: are you swamped, or do you have time to call your Haiti "colleague" just north of Miami? <raphsabb> no I can call, I juss dont know what mentoring entails <CanoeBerry> Great. Last call: objections / alternatives? <CanoeBerry> Calling once.. <CanoeBerry> Calling twice.. <CanoeBerry> Calling thrice.. <CanoeBerry> APPROVED, with mentoring / posting to http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XO_Laptop_Lending_Libraries required. <SweetXOGrannie> I can help you Raphael I'll co-mentor [ PROJECT #2 - Apex Communication aid for the earthquake victims of Haiti - Miami, Florida ] <CanoeBerry> Onto Project #2 now -- please all help critique: <raphsabb> ok well Im in then <CanoeBerry> 2. Apex Communication aid for the earthquake victims of Haiti - Miami, <CanoeBerry> Florida <CanoeBerry> http://rt.laptop.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=54982 <CanoeBerry> [SPECIFIC SITE NEEDS TO BE POSTED OFF <CanoeBerry> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Projects ] <CanoeBerry> Requests 10 XOs over 2 months <CanoeBerry> Project Objectives: <CanoeBerry> We plan to provide a means of communication to the victims of the <CanoeBerry> earthquake in Haiti. With their homes destroyed, we want to provide <CanoeBerry> access <CanoeBerry> to the internet so that they can give their loved ones abroad a sign <CanoeBerry> of life. <CanoeBerry> raphsabb: can you introduce your work in a few sentences for us? * tabs Quit (Client Quit) <raphsabb> sure <CanoeBerry> Great <raphsabb> I am the Tech admin at Apex Training Center * bz_g has joined #olpc-meeting <raphsabb> we have schools in haiti in one in florida * Lime-Red-55 Quit ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") <CanoeBerry> What is Apex? <CanoeBerry> Briefly.. <CanoeBerry> Do you have an Apex web site? <raphsabb> it is a Technical school(like ITT tech) mainly catering to haitians <raphsabb> not atm * FranXOphonie Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) <raphsabb> it provides hvac licensing and the sort <CanoeBerry> What ages and classes are taught? <CanoeBerry> OK <CanoeBerry> tell us your Haiti plan, sorry to interrupt. <carolruthsilver> Are the XO laptops to be distributed in Haiti or among diaspora in Florida? <raphsabb> right lol <raphsabb> ok <raphsabb> the laptops are actually needed to provide the poeple in haiti with a way to tell their loved ones that they are ok <raphsabb> I myself was only able to hear from my mother yesterday <CanoeBerry> By phone? <sandrat> will users have a place or way to recharge XO batteries <raphsabb> no online the internet is actually the best way to communicate atm since its satelite based <raphsabb> we have a few lacotions with wireless internet setup <SweetXOGrannie> You have people going down there next week via the Dominican Republic, right? <sandrat> great that there is satellite available <raphsabb> I have a first group that went today <CanoeBerry> Great. Have you made progress on your power/electricity planning.? <EricKenvin> the only possible problem I see with this is distribution. As I undertand, the airport(s) are having problems getting in crucial aid <raphsabb> and based on the success we will be having more people go <CanoeBerry> A few basic tips here, as you may have seen: http://blog.laptop.org/2010/01/15/mobilizing-haiti-apply-for-free-ruggedized-laptop/ <sandrat> There is a delivery route established now thru Dominican Republic <raphsabb> they are in dr right now <raphsabb> they rented a van and will be taking the road in the morning <sandrat> route is over the mountains they said <CanoeBerry> DR to the rescue, hmm-- that's promising the roads are passable. <CanoeBerry> We hope. <CanoeBerry> Back to business here. <raphsabb> the roads are fine there's ban buses out already <EricKenvin> that's good. I was just concerned about interfering with the red cross's efforts. But if there's already a route planned... <SweetXOGrannie> thats' how Anderson Cooper got there <CanoeBerry> How can we help? <raphsabb> he cheated lol he used a helicopter <CanoeBerry> Is there a plan around electricity yet? <carolruthsilver> What about power source? The van could recharge -- do you have the cigaret lighter power cords? <raphsabb> ok so far there is electricity with generators <CanoeBerry> When Haiti's power grid comes back (could be months?) do they use US/Canada/Mexico standard plugs? <EricKenvin> or possibly a propane generator? <sandrat> cool <raphsabb> standard plugs <CanoeBerry> OK <CanoeBerry> So where do we stand -- what's needed and what's the next step? <sandrat> I heard that jet plane batteries are the best. maybe somewhere in salvage <carolruthsilver> Will the helper personnel stay with the laptops or will they be handed to locals? <sandrat> fuel for generators could be an issue <CanoeBerry> Question for Later: Is moral/financial support from Project #1 appropriate, in the form of local Miami-area partnerships? <sandrat> what is location of target kids, and how many <raphsabb> no they will stay with the helpers in designated "cybercafe" type setups <carolruthsilver> Stay with helpers = good. <sandrat> sounds like a good strategy <CanoeBerry> Child ownership (OLPC's core philosophy) can wait a bit in this emergency. Who are the helpers, if you know? <CanoeBerry> Since kids often won't have homes, it hardly makes sense to ask kids to take the laptops home. <raphsabb> i have the first team that went down today <raphsabb> and if approved the second team who would be carrying the laptops down there <carolruthsilver> Cigaret lighter power cords -- check it out for power. <EricKenvin> agree with carolruthsilver, if the intent is to get word from survivorrs to family, it would be best to just have them set up for quick usage <raphsabb> u mean inverters? yes we have a few <CanoeBerry> raphsabb: what's the size of this 2nd team and when would they (fly?) to DR or so? <EricKenvin> to reach a max amount of people <carolruthsilver> no, not inverters. Direct current, no inverter. <raphsabb> just like the first it will be about 6 people <raphsabb> and depending on whats possible they will fly to dr or directly <CanoeBerry> raphsabb: what's your experience with OLPC or XO Laptops? <raphsabb> no experience with them but 7 years with linux <CanoeBerry> Are you comfortable with the smaller screen and browser etc? And the Sugar Learning Platform as different from a standard Linux interface generally. <CanoeBerry> These XO-1's will not have direct access to Fedora/Gnome FYI, as XO-1.5's are not yet available for another month or so sorry. <raphsabb> i understand that it is python based which(if ur a programmer) is great <CanoeBerry> But certainly it's all Linux Fedora 9 under the hood. <CanoeBerry> Sounds great. <CanoeBerry> I vote +1 to move forward. <CanoeBerry> Others? <raphsabb> the smaller screens are nto a problem since we dont plan on using them for nothing more than juss sending an email or a quick facebook update <SweetXOGrannie> +1 (of course!) <culseg> raphsabb: download a Sugar on a Stick at surgarlabs.org <carolruthsilver> +1 <EricKenvin> +1 <culseg> +1 <CanoeBerry> raphsabb: what other questions do you have for us? <raphsabb> will do <raphsabb> how long do you guys think it would take for them to get to me? * jlew has joined #olpc-meeting <raphsabb> I have to plan the trip accordingly <CanoeBerry> raphsabb: we can ship overnight if nec, but the MLK holiday is a problem. <CanoeBerry> what's your need? <CanoeBerry> Is Wednesday/Thursday/Friday arrival next week ok? <raphsabb> well as soon as possible off course but as long as I have a time frame I can start getting things going <carolruthsilver> Suggest each laptop be assigned a number and assigned to one person, and they take resp for learning system, keeping safe. <sandrat> +1 <raphsabb> yes next week would be fine <CanoeBerry> raphsabb: yes, please consider empowering individuals/kids "ownership" (or long-term loans of XO) who can lead others via community support. <SweetXOGrannie> Adam will be able to send you a delivery date as soon as they are shipped <CanoeBerry> raphsabb: deal-- is Friday arrival a week from today OK? <raphsabb> that will work <CanoeBerry> raphsabb: let us support you going forward -- even if you aren't yet ready to join our community support team, please consider it later: <CanoeBerry> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Support_Gang <CanoeBerry> APPROVED. Onto Project #3 now, OK? <SweetXOGrannie> Where is Brian? <raphsabb> +1 <CanoeBerry> SweetXOGrannie: Can you ring Brian? <raphsabb> thank you guys and God bless <SweetXOGrannie> will try got to find the number <CanoeBerry> raphsabb: we will email you the Delray Beach phone number if local South Florida support helps you. <SweetXOGrannie> Bye Raphael... I'lll send those links we discussed this morning [ PROJECT #3 - Project Success Links: 3 Projects For Change - Los Angeles area, California ] <CanoeBerry> OK, plz all review/critique project #3 here: <CanoeBerry> Project Success Links: 3 Projects For Change - Los Angeles area, <CanoeBerry> California <CanoeBerry> http://rt.laptop.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=54975 <CanoeBerry> http://cocosouthla.org <CanoeBerry> [SPECIFIC SITE NEEDS TO BE POSTED OFF <CanoeBerry> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Projects ] <CanoeBerry> Requests 15 XOs over undetermined months <CanoeBerry> Project Objectives: <CanoeBerry> Our project objective is to inspire and educate elementary school <CanoeBerry> children <CanoeBerry> to take an active role in their community by utilize technology tools <CanoeBerry> for 3 <CanoeBerry> Projects for Change. <CanoeBerry> This project-oriented program will also act as a professional development <CanoeBerry> program, which can help kids identify personal skills and develop career <CanoeBerry> interests. The success of these projects will introduce different <CanoeBerry> positive <CanoeBerry> activities that can be emulated by other children. <raphsabb> great thanks again for the help, and I would love to join in on the help after I take care of this <CanoeBerry> Aside: Applicant is taking time off work to help Caryl present at http://www.socallinuxexpo.org <CanoeBerry> raphsabb: our gang would like you to help you along the too, keep in touch en route <CanoeBerry> *along the way too <EricKenvin> What is the age range for the LA project? * raphsabb Quit ("CGI:IRC") <SweetXOGrannie> 6-12 <CanoeBerry> grades K thru 6 <CanoeBerry> school in Pasadena, Calif <CanoeBerry> Caryl: does Brian have time? <CanoeBerry> Both now and in future, to properly shepherd this project? <SweetXOGrannie> Couldn't reach him Maybe in a meetinr with sarah p <CanoeBerry> Sarah P? <CanoeBerry> Hah <SweetXOGrannie> Yes he will have time bc he has others working with him and there are actually 3 sites <SweetXOGrannie> also his father is retired and will help <CanoeBerry> OK, Caryl, can you provide us your view on this revised proposal and how/who/where it will help LA and beyond? <SweetXOGrannie> this is a well planned project with excellent use of the Sugar Activities <CanoeBerry> Great, go on.. <SweetXOGrannie> Water.... severe problem rationed! <SweetXOGrannie> Kids will learn to present ideas for causes (like water etc) and in turn, themselves when they look for employment * crs has joined #olpc-meeting <CanoeBerry> crs: welcome back! <crs> Thanks. <CanoeBerry> SweetXOGrannie: show us your stuff, advocate for LaLa-Land's work here while we wait for Brian! * FranXOphonie has joined #olpc-meeting <sandrat> There is a lot here about developing a career related material, but little detail about what this material is, or why use XO for this? <SweetXOGrannie> students will devise and create publicity materials for a reading contest at their school <CanoeBerry> Or should we defer here til next week, when Brian can better represent his work? <sandrat> Brian's project: need more detail on learning content... <sandrat> defer <CanoeBerry> Brian also needs more public web materials, beyond just: <SweetXOGrannie> The content is there. REad the proposal <CanoeBerry> http://cocosouthla.org which might not even be relevant to his work here anymore? <SweetXOGrannie> Probably not. I don't think he needed to do that yet <CanoeBerry> SweetXOGrannie: what the strongest section of Brian's proposal we should all read? <CanoeBerry> Apologies it's a bit long and I have not read it yet. <SweetXOGrannie> TJust a sec... let me look <SweetXOGrannie> :9 <SweetXOGrannie> :( <crs> The blind leadeth the blind? <crs> Query: is this putting laptops into LA public school? And if 10 of them, who gets ownership? <sandrat> I read most of it. ... but still not clear on implementation <SweetXOGrannie> Not LA City schools. <crs> LA private schools? School in LA? Or not in LA? <SweetXOGrannie> 3 projects one about water, one about Reading, one about the arts. <CanoeBerry> OK: Caryl plz tell Brian to get his troops fired up and if he does a smashing job, I'll spend my own money to fly out to LA Feb 19-onwards to check this out and properly represent OLPC/Sugar and your Southern Calif Gang at http://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale8x/ <CanoeBerry> Let's try to bring this to a conclusion now. <CanoeBerry> 3pm <SweetXOGrannie> Working with Burbank School in Pasadena CA <SweetXOGrannie> Promise? <crs> Private or public school? <SweetXOGrannie> Brian will be helping with the OLPC booth at SCaLE <SweetXOGrannie> Public <SweetXOGrannie> but a small district <CanoeBerry> My Feeling: I definitely want to support this (Brian's worked his butt off supporting OLPC at Fox etc) but we need more web-materials etc before I can ship. <CanoeBerry> Let's try to come to a consensus. <CanoeBerry> How do we move forward? <SweetXOGrannie> OK, how about a conditional approval pending putting up the web stuff * jeremyflores has left #olpc-meeting <crs> I think putting XO into public schools across the US is a good PR thing, so would go 1+. <SweetXOGrannie> +1 of course <CanoeBerry> OK, who will mentor to make such Conditional Approval stick? <SweetXOGrannie> I will <CanoeBerry> OK. <SweetXOGrannie> I will hassle him until it happens! <CanoeBerry> +1 for conditional approval <CanoeBerry> Other votes please. <SweetXOGrannie> He won't get them until he posts the stuff <CanoeBerry> Objections? Endorsments? <SweetXOGrannie> Still +1 <crs> +1 <sandrat> I'll wait to see the info <CanoeBerry> Thanks for the thoughts. Let's continue studying/supporting Brian's work to get this onto the launchpad. <CanoeBerry> Last Call.. <CanoeBerry> 3.. <CanoeBerry> 2.. <CanoeBerry> 1.. <SweetXOGrannie> sandrat... Brian contributed a section to this summers Book sprint it explains his rationale <CanoeBerry> CONCLUSION: Conditional Approval, based on full web-publication of learning strategy details. <sandrat> great .. that helps <CanoeBerry> And blog if possible!!! <CanoeBerry> Onto Project #4 now, ok? <crs> OK [ PROJECT #4 - Small Solutions/Hands of charity @ Keongo School - Kenya / Newburyport, Massachusetts ] <CanoeBerry> Please all help (re)review Project #4 here: <CanoeBerry> Small Solutions/Hands of charity @ Keongo School - Kenya / <CanoeBerry> Newburyport, Massachusetts <CanoeBerry> http://rt.laptop.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=54629 <CanoeBerry> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Projects/KenyaSmallSolutions_HOC_KeongoSchool <CanoeBerry> http://hoclaptop.blog.com <CanoeBerry> http://smallsolutionsbigideas.org/blog <CanoeBerry> http://hocmathematics.blogspot.com [NEEDS UPDATE & CURRICULUM POSTED] <CanoeBerry> Requests 10 XOs over 4 months <CanoeBerry> Project Objectives: <CanoeBerry> We hope to make learning of Mathematics easier and more interesting by <CanoeBerry> using the activities the XO laptop has to inspire interest and <CanoeBerry> raise the average percentage mark of all the children by 20% by the <CanoeBerry> end of the three months. <sandrat> request was changed to 7 <CanoeBerry> sandrat: can you introduce all the work you and Alan and Bill have done since last week? <CanoeBerry> Clarif: 7 XOs? or 7 months? <sandrat> hocmathematics blog is for new material, so expect something there in one week <sandrat> 7 XOs for 4 months <CanoeBerry> Thanks. * EricKenvin Quit (Remote closed the connection) <crs> What age kids? <sandrat> team will leave XOs in the village for kids to use after school and on the weekend <CanoeBerry> Thanks also to Bill who posted to http://hoclaptop.blog.com overnight from Kenya <CanoeBerry> Quasimonthly reporting is a Contributors Program requirement, and it's reassuring he's getting back to us now. <CanoeBerry> sandrat: can you answer Carol Ruth Silver's question about ages etc? <crs> If team will leave laptops in the village, this is not a loan but a donation -- ? <sandrat> ooops Ok, so at this point they don't have the staff to leave them in the village <sandrat> it is a loan <sandrat> to demonstrate that the kids using XOs will improve their math skills and perform better on standard tests <sandrat> when case proven XOs come back <SweetXOGrannie> Well planned curriculum this week Good work! <sandrat> we're working on sending $$ <crs> Are you going to do an assessment before giving the laptops and then after, say, 3 months? <CanoeBerry> sandrat: you've made awesome progress over the past week -- can milestone here be finalized hew now: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Projects/KenyaSmallSolutions_HOC_KeongoSchool#TimeFrame <sandrat> assessment was done last summer - <crs> Example: administer standard tests day one, give laptops day 2, readminister tests day 30? <sandrat> we have some milestones for them; and may send someone on sight in March <CanoeBerry> "(February) (ongoing schedule Mathematics (see curriculum section)" <SweetXOGrannie> Where will the XOs go after 4 mos? If it works, won't you want to continue? You can ask for up to 24 mos <CanoeBerry> "(March)(schedule continues see Curriculum below)" <CanoeBerry> "(April) Measuring Outcomes" <sandrat> We're hoping to get them donated laptops by then to continue and are applying for grants for them <crs> What age are the kids involved? <sandrat> 6 - 15 they said <sandrat> they have a 6 or more groups that cycle through the classes <CanoeBerry> Your wiki page needs beefing up here -- the timeline/milestones need precision -- and an actual link to the "Curriculum below" which does not appear. <crs> Is this a one-room school, all kids various ages? How many kids? <sandrat> it is not one room, and kids are divided into age groups; however they may be some mixed groups <sandrat> OK: didn't link the curriculum, it is further down on the same wiki page <CanoeBerry> How many total kids have have contact with the 19 (current) + 7 (proposed) XOs? <sandrat> 400 so far .. <CanoeBerry> In addition to others you're hopefully russling up from US donations. <sandrat> yes we are getting donations, I'm totally psyched about that <CanoeBerry> 400 kids have contact with the XOs? <sandrat> yes ... <CanoeBerry> How many hours per week do they each have access? <sandrat> they have two hours of classes each day of the week, so from the schedule each group may only get one or two classes a week <crs> Are the teachers, administrators in favor of the laptops? Is there any parent support for laptops? <sandrat> They spent Sept - October getting teachers on board and letting them get time on the XO <crs> goog! <sandrat> teachers are totally psyched <crs> Opps, I meant Good! <sandrat> There are three people in each class, one to teach, others to help students and observe <crs> And how many kids each class? <sandrat> I don't know how small the groups are, whether they broke it down to 10 students in each group .. <CanoeBerry> Later: how are you/we supporting Mark Bill Koech, who clearly is the voice of the project? <sandrat> at one point the kids were sharing the laptop <sandrat> We call him once a week or every two weeks, and use email also <CanoeBerry> Is Mark satisfied with the his role and the forward path? <sandrat> Mark is totally dedicated. His biggest concern is having enough money so that they can pay for their expenses while they are in the village <CanoeBerry> But at least electricity is not an issue? <sandrat> so we are working on that. Our big fundraiser is scheduled now for early Feb, But we have some other sources <sandrat> No, they have been charging up XOs overnight <CanoeBerry> Perhaps Mark Bill Koech can present to us one Sunday by phone? Doesn't have to be 4PM boston time obviously. <sandrat> Mark is very determined, because he believes that the XO can really make a difference <sandrat> sure Sunday is a good day to get him on the phone. That is a great idea <CanoeBerry> Is he comfortable talking in English to 10 poeple by phone? <sandrat> English is the spoken language in Kenya; everyone speaks excellent english <CanoeBerry> +1 <sandrat> he is a leader, very articulate. He has motivated other young people to do this with him <CanoeBerry> Even better. <CanoeBerry> Kenya has hope, for all its perpetual problems. <CanoeBerry> Shall we? <sandrat> Kenyans really want their country to be on the path to success. And they see education as key <CanoeBerry> Let's invest in the muscle inside the mind. Conclusion? <crs> How many laptops are requested? <CanoeBerry> Can we vote now and finish? <SweetXOGrannie> +1 <CanoeBerry> 7 laptops for how many months? <sandrat> I reduced original request to 7 .. but would be glad for more, there are a lot of kids <sandrat> 10 would be super <CanoeBerry> 4 seems rather short-- what's the summer plan at this school: can people and XO be brought together then usefully? <sandrat> thank you so much sweetxogrannie <SweetXOGrannie> sandra.. go for 24 mos <sandrat> They want to continue in the summer; so in April we will provide status, and if they need to keep some of the laptops will reapply to for the summer term <CanoeBerry> Let's keep planning concrete. Milestones must be tightened here: <CanoeBerry> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Projects/KenyaSmallSolutions_HOC_KeongoSchool#TimeFrame <SweetXOGrannie> if you post regularly, you won't have to reapplyy <CanoeBerry> But otherwise, I vote yes. <sandrat> I know that Mark's plans now extend through the summer term; no planning beyond that <CanoeBerry> Objections? <sandrat> OK. I've talked to Mark about the importance of contact and posting, and more details about the actual kids use of the XOs <CanoeBerry> Please all vote if you can. * dogi Quit (Remote closed the connection) <SweetXOGrannie> sketch what you would like to happen it isn't set in concrete. <sandrat> I can amend plan, but would be happy to just have equipment to get through April. I hope to go myself and check in with the project * carolruthsilver Quit ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") <sandrat> I need to work more with Mark on milestones and deliverables; we'll update ticket and wiki page * crs Quit ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") * tabs has joined #olpc-meeting <sandrat> thanks for your support everyone <CanoeBerry> Conclusion: approved. Thanks Sandra for keeping checkpoints real, and Bill in the loop! <CanoeBerry> MEETING ADJOURNED, with thanks to all busting their butts to advance Haiti, LA, Kenya, Afghanistan. [CLOSING REMARKS] <CanoeBerry> And Delray Beach! <sandrat> we are all praying and thinking of the children in Haiti <CanoeBerry> And the seniors too -- see Mike Lee's work here: <tabs> and for the adults in Haiti <SweetXOGrannie> Bye All Adam.... I'll look forward to seeing you in LA on the 19th! <sandrat> I went to our Catholic school that has a project in Haiti. They raised $3000 today for their school in Haiti <CanoeBerry> http://twitter.com/curiouslee <CanoeBerry> SweetXOGrannie: I wish. If Brian and you light a fire under every kids in Pasadena, I'll be there. * carolruthsilver has joined #olpc-meeting <carolruthsilver> Sorry, computer problems. Am back. <SweetXOGrannie> every???? I thought you just wanted the web page, blog, etc!!!! <SweetXOGrannie> not fair! <CanoeBerry> Brian and his pal Sarah P have to get their "Responsbility Project" off the bus shelter posters and into the history books. * FranXOphonie Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) * jlew Quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) <SweetXOGrannie> Wonder where he really was today???? Well, gotta run. I'm busy getting stuff ready for the trip.