[ AGENDA ]
* XO-1.5 production machines available:
http://blog.laptop.org/2010/02/25/xo-1-5-early-production-laptops-free-to-contributors-worldwide/
* New projects & libraries -- teaching them Community Outreach:
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XO_Laptop_Lending_Libraries
* Which projects might you enjoy Mentoring below?!
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Projects
http://rt.laptop.org/Search/Results.html?Query=Queue=%27contributors%27
* Fast Review of the 5 latest (greatest!) HW/Project Proposals -- please
join us advocating for, and/or reviewing shortcomings of these proposals:
#1 Marysville Rotary XO Literacy Project - Guatemala / Marysville, WA
#2 Community Health Information for OLPC - Montara, CA
#3 Project VOICE - Philippines & Wantagh, NY
#4 ClassContribute, a homework / gradebook app - Eastchester, NY
#5 OLPC Tuva - Tiburon CA, Russia
[ PREGAME SHOW ]
<CanoeBerry> Hope to see folks in 5min, when our community review begin! (5 OLPC Contributors Program hardware requests)
<CanoeBerry> AGENDA HERE: http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/grassroots/2011-May/001765.html
<sv3rma> hey!
<CanoeBerry> Drinks for this meeting will be served by SFSU, to celebrate a recent professor ;)
<sv3rma> :-)
<sv3rma> first round's on me!
[ PROJECT #1 - Marysville Rotary XO Literacy Project - Guatemala / Marysville, WA ]
<CanoeBerry> OK, let's begin with PRojects #1 -- plz all critique/mentor/vote for:
<CanoeBerry> Marysville Rotary XO Literacy Project - Guatemala / Marysville, WA
<CanoeBerry> http://rt.laptop.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=79572
<CanoeBerry> http://www.marysvillerotary.org/literacyXOproject
<CanoeBerry> http://olpcMAP.net?id=884001
<CanoeBerry> SPECIFIC SITE NEEDS TO BE POSTED OFF http://olpcMAP.net &
<CanoeBerry> http://j.mp/6UhCtd
<CanoeBerry> Requests 6-8 XOs over 2-3 months
<CanoeBerry> Project Objectives:
<CanoeBerry> Determine if the XO Laptop systems will provide an educational
<CanoeBerry> environment needed to improve both the education level in our local
<CanoeBerry> early child learning program and if these systems can become a valuable
<CanoeBerry> educational instrument in the rural / poverty areas of Guatemala. Also,
<CanoeBerry> to determine if it is possible to have both a simple "Sugar"
<CanoeBerry> programming
<CanoeBerry> and a vocational repair facility at our Technology High School, thus
<CanoeBerry> expanding the educational and learning spectrum across many age groups.
<CanoeBerry> I vote starter kit?
<Violet-Silver-39> Hello from Marysville Rotary. I hope I can help answer any questions
<CanoeBerry> Are 2 XO-1s sufficient to get this moving into/beyond the exploratory stage?
<CanoeBerry> Violet-Silver-39: can you introduce yourself?
<GrannieB> a starter kit makes sense. they will need time to train themselves on how to use the machines if they are new to them
<CanoeBerry> Violet-Silver-39: when will yr site http://www.marysvillerotary.org/literacyXOproject likely go live?
<Violet-Silver-39> Possibly, I have many partners in this startup. My name is Chris Nation.
<sv3rma> +1 on starter kit
<Violet-Silver-39> We are tied to a District wide Webservice and are working on the link - the system is using URL forwarding and not DNS
<Violet-Silver-39> You can get to the site from the main page. link is on the left hand side
<CanoeBerry> Fixed link here: http://www.clubrunner.ca/Portal/SitePages/SitePage.aspx?cid=275&pid=61314
<CanoeBerry> Chris: what Sugar Activities (or Linue programs running on Gnome) are you expected to build your learning approach around?
<CanoeBerry> +1 to starter kit.
<CanoeBerry> Other votes please?
<Violet-Silver-39> I can work with the starter kit, but may have to extend the demo time if possible.
<CanoeBerry> What are your (various) Guatemala travel dates?
<GrannieB> +1 starter kit Needs to find out the capabilities before doing more
<sv3rma> +1 on extended demo time
<Violet-Silver-39> We travel to Guatemala in the early Spring
<GrannieB> then you have lots of time to get acquainted with the XO and Sugar
<CanoeBerry> Chris: I just fixed your site at http://olpcMAP.net?id=884001 ..please maintain it (and start a blog at http://wordpress.com going forward!)
<Violet-Silver-39> Thanks
<CanoeBerry> Early spring 2012?
<CanoeBerry> Right, March 2012, I see..
<Violet-Silver-39> Yes. Usually the third week of March.
<CanoeBerry> Let us conclude.
<CanoeBerry> How many kids total do you work with around Guatemala there?
<Violet-Silver-39> Right now we have 12 schools that range from 20 - 40 students
* Mokurai (~eddie@99-92-174-69.lightspeed.iplsin.sbcglobal.net) has joined #olpc-meeting
<Violet-Silver-39> If this works for you, We can use some broken systems for the Repair Facility review.
<Mokurai> Two or three broken XOs should allow you to create at least one Frankenputer.
<CanoeBerry> APPROVED!
<CanoeBerry> Thanks -- Starter kit should be coming your way in coming days/weeks.
[ PROJECT #2 - Community Health Information for OLPC - Montara, CA ]
<CanoeBerry> Onto project #2 -- plz all critique/mentor/vote for:
<Violet-Silver-39> Thank you all for your time.
<CanoeBerry> Community Health Information for OLPC - Montara, CA
<CanoeBerry> http://rt.laptop.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=79823
<CanoeBerry> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/WiRED-CHI
<CanoeBerry> http://wiredinternational.org
<CanoeBerry> SPECIFIC SITE NEEDS TO BE POSTED OFF http://olpcMAP.net &
<CanoeBerry> http://j.mp/6UhCtd
<CanoeBerry> Requests 2 XO-1s and 2 XO-1.5s over 2+ months
<CanoeBerry> Project Objectives:
<CanoeBerry> This request is for two/three laptops to use as test and demonstration
<CanoeBerry> tools in a project to provide interactive health training programs
<CanoeBerry> through WiRED’s community health information (CHI) project. We seek
<CanoeBerry> to load and test our software on these machines as prototypes for a
<CanoeBerry> larger program involving OLPC computers. The complete software
<CanoeBerry> (health topics, auxiliary health libraries, search and access tools)
<CanoeBerry> will be provided without charge to OLPC for use in its global work.
<CanoeBerry> See a sample at
<CanoeBerry> http://www.itnhealth.net/CHIC2/presentations/50/player.html
<Mokurai> The Sugar Labs Replacing Textbooks project invites everybody working on health training to use our collaborative booki software.
<Mokurai> http://booki.treehouse.su
<Mokurai> Write and edit with a live chat channel. One-click publishing when done, to PDF and lulu.com print on demand.
<sv3rma> I'm on the WiRED project
<Mokurai> See the Sugar manuals at flossmanuals.net, now using the same software.
<sv3rma> WiRED has 120+ healhcare modules ready to go, available to OLPC and olpc
<CanoeBerry> GrannieB & All: votes? critiques? words of support?
<Mokurai> Does this program need XOs, or can it develop its materials using Sugar on a Stick or Sugar packaged for a standard Linux distro?
<sv3rma> These are in Flash, and work ok on XO-1 and 1.5, but we'd like to optimize it.
<GrannieB> nice stuff! If it is ready soon, we have a Peace Corps health educator in Guatemala who may be able to get assistance translating it into Spanish!
<Mokurai> Would you consider using Scratch instead?
<sv3rma> We need XOs to optimize the Flash stack
<sv3rma> No, we won't consider Scratch
<CanoeBerry> How many languages possible?
<CanoeBerry> EG. GrannieB's Spanish question?
<GrannieB> what is your projected time line?
<sv3rma> The material is also not modifiable because of its medical nature...the MDs who wrote it are very critical about it
<GrannieB> will you be "Sugarizing" or running it in Gnome?
<sv3rma> The materials will be available this summer
<Mokurai> How wide is your tropical medicine expertise? Can we do Africa and South Asia in addition to Latin America?
<sv3rma> Should run in Browse
<GrannieB> This is a professional translation service provided by the Peace Corps
<sv3rma> There is some translation going on in Spanish and Arabic
<CanoeBerry> Is Wired paying for this Spanish/Arabic translation here?
<Mokurai> How about Haiti? Would this team work with Partners in Health?
<sv3rma> They will accept translation help, but the materials are not modifiable.
<CanoeBerry> OK
<CanoeBerry> +1
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<Mokurai> What health issues are included?
<GrannieB> +1
<sv3rma> WiRED is paying some of it.
<CanoeBerry> Thanks all for casting your votes on "Community Health Information for OLPC - Montara, CA"
<sv3rma> sanitation, tropical diseases, self help, asthma, sciatica, etc.
<CanoeBerry> Cool, is the listing of 120+ healthcare modules available?
<sv3rma> From what Iunderstand, WiRED will give it away for free to any edu/non-profit
<Mokurai> Do the tropical diseases cover Africa and South Asia?
<CanoeBerry> Great, please clarify later.
<sv3rma> I have it in an email
<CanoeBerry> Let's wrap up.
<sv3rma> I can forward it to support-gang
<CanoeBerry> Great.
<CanoeBerry> sandrat & all: final questions?
<CanoeBerry> Calling once..
<CanoeBerry> Calling twice..
<CanoeBerry> Calling thrice..
<CanoeBerry> APPROVED. Note that the final shipment may not be exactly 2 XO-1s and 2 XO-1.5 given inventory issues as OLPC Foundation moves here in Cambridge, MA, but we'll try our best :)
[ PROJECT #3 - Project VOICE - Philippines & Wantagh, NY ]
<CanoeBerry> Onto Project #3
<CanoeBerry> Plz all critique/mentor/vote for:
<sv3rma> ok
<sv3rma> thnaks
<sv3rma> thanks
<CanoeBerry> Project VOICE - Philippines & Wantagh, NY
<CanoeBerry> http://rt.laptop.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=80245
<CanoeBerry> http://olpcMAP.net?id=883002
<CanoeBerry> SPECIFIC SITE NEEDS TO BE POSTED OFF http://olpcMAP.net &
<CanoeBerry> http://j.mp/6UhCtd
<CanoeBerry> Requests 1 XOs over 12 months
<CanoeBerry> Project Objectives:
<CanoeBerry> The goal of Project VOICE is to foster literacy, opinion and expression
<CanoeBerry> in underprivileged Filipino youth living in the Philippines.
<CanoeBerry> This goal can
<CanoeBerry> be divided into two sub-goals, namely: to teach English from a young
<CanoeBerry> age in
<CanoeBerry> order to develop a strong command of the language at an older age,
<CanoeBerry> and, in
<CanoeBerry> older, literate youth, encourage expression and journalism, and the
<CanoeBerry> formation of opinions and the sharing of ideas, especially regarding
<CanoeBerry> social
<CanoeBerry> issues.
<CanoeBerry> To these ends, we list the following practical benchmarks and
<CanoeBerry> concrete objectives of the project:
* Violet-Silver-39 (~4b93b171@olpc.osuosl.org) Quit (Quit: CGI:IRC)
<CanoeBerry> A. To develop an open-source English language teaching software,
<CanoeBerry> similar to
<CanoeBerry> Rosetta Stone, that is lightweight and optimized to run on XO's, and
<CanoeBerry> that is
<CanoeBerry> custom-tailored to the unique needs of children in the poorer
<CanoeBerry> regions of the
<CanoeBerry> Philippines and elsewhere. B. To deploy and conduct a pilot
<CanoeBerry> program in a test school in the Philippines. C. To develop or port an
<CanoeBerry> open-source journalism tool for the XO. D. To deploy and conduct
<CanoeBerry> a pilot program in a test school in the Philippines for this tool.
<Mokurai> +1 for English language course and for literacy.
<Mokurai> We have a partner available, Educational Solutions, which produces the Caleb Gattegno language teaching materials.
<sv3rma> is there an existing rosetta stone like project?
<Mokurai> The ES program is not very much like Rosetta Stone in detail, but it is an effective method that has been adapted to about 80 languages.
<Mokurai> What sort of journalism tool does the project have in mind?
<GrannieB> I am interested in the OS Journalism part. Would this be for newsletter type projects?
<CanoeBerry> I'm definitely willing to ship a starter kit if this applicant is a bit more responsive -- so far I've not seen him reply to emails Mafe sent :)
<CanoeBerry> +1 tentatively!
<CanoeBerry> Objections?
<sv3rma> ok
<CanoeBerry> Calling once..
<CanoeBerry> Calling twice..
<CanoeBerry> Calling thrice..
<Mokurai> Agreed, tentative pending responses.
<CanoeBerry> TENATIVE APPROVAL -- if applicant works with mentor Marife Mago (or another mentor), OLPC can ship a starter kit of 2 XO-1s.
<GrannieB> BTW Live Mocha already has a free online "Rosetta Stone-type" language system. Includes many, many languages.
[ PROJECT #4 - ClassContribute, a homework / gradebook app - Eastchester, NY ]
<CanoeBerry> Onto Project #4 -- please all critique/mentor/vote for:
<CanoeBerry> ClassContribute, a homework / gradebook app - Eastchester, NY
<CanoeBerry> http://rt.laptop.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=80592
<CanoeBerry> http://olpcMAP.net?id=893001
<CanoeBerry> SPECIFIC SITE NEEDS TO BE POSTED OFF http://olpcMAP.net &
<CanoeBerry> http://j.mp/6UhCtd
<CanoeBerry> Requests 1 XO-1 and 1 XO-1.5 over ~6 months
<CanoeBerry> Project Objectives:
<CanoeBerry> I want to be able to have a HTML (in browser) way for a teacher to
<CanoeBerry> post individual student grades, as well as interactive homework
<CanoeBerry> assignments. I also want to implement an “E-Mail your Teacher”
<CanoeBerry> section, where a student could choose a specific topic for which
<CanoeBerry> they could contact their teacher.
<Mokurai> There are several free (as in beer) language sites.
<Mokurai> Why not Moodle?
<sv3rma> There is a gradebook built within Moodle
<sv3rma> quite extensive
<sv3rma> we use it everysemester
<CanoeBerry> Am willing to support this young (Grade 9) applicant if they want to hack, and connect with our global community via a blog or mailing lists etc.
<Mokurai> Fora, Wiki, other features.
<sv3rma> this may be for a scenario when we don't have moodle?
<Mokurai> I used it at Presidio School of management.
<Mokurai> Why wouldn't we have Moodle?
<GrannieB> Moodle is essentially a free version of Blackboard
<sv3rma> way better than blackboard :-)
<CanoeBerry> Shall we support this young fella?
<Mokurai> Isn't Moodle part of the XS project?
<CanoeBerry> Or steer him?
<Mokurai> Steer
<GrannieB> does Moodle already work on the XO? I haven't tried it
<sv3rma> steer and encourage/expand idea
<Mokurai> Moodle is Web-based.
<CanoeBerry> Who will mentor?
<sv3rma> works via Browse
<GrannieB> yeah, but has anyone tried Moodle on an XO?
<sv3rma> yes
<sv3rma> too slow
<Mokurai> If Moodle is available in an XS build, I am willing to mentor.
<sv3rma> Moodle is integral to XS
<Mokurai> OK, I'm in.
<GrannieB> in that case, his idea has merit
<Mokurai> sv3rma: E-mail me afterwards with your concerns.
<CanoeBerry> Conclusions?
<Mokurai> +1
<CanoeBerry> Let's wrap up Project #4 verdict.
<GrannieB> +1
<CanoeBerry> +1 if mentor.
<sv3rma> +1 with clarifications and mentor
<Mokurai> I just volunteered to mentor.
<CanoeBerry> APPROVED, with clarifications/mentor. Thanks all.
<CanoeBerry> Mokurai: thanks for mentoring. Since the applicant is underage, let's make sure we get his parents approval. Please also agree to OLPC's privacy policy here: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC:Privacy_policy
<CanoeBerry> Thanks!
[ PROJECT #5 - OLPC Tuva - Tiburon CA, Russia ]
<CanoeBerry> Onto Project #5.
<CanoeBerry> Plz all critique/mentor/vote for:
<Mokurai> +1
<CanoeBerry> LPC Tuva - Tiburon CA, Russia
<CanoeBerry> http://rt.laptop.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=81063
<CanoeBerry> http://olpctuva.wordpress.com
<CanoeBerry> http://olpcMAP.net?id=892003
<CanoeBerry> SPECIFIC SITE NEEDS TO BE POSTED OFF http://olpcMAP.net &
<CanoeBerry> http://j.mp/6UhCtd
<CanoeBerry> Requests 2 XO-1.5s over 12 months
<CanoeBerry> Project Objectives: (excerpts)
<CanoeBerry> Primary project will be: Translation of the Sugar learning platform
<CanoeBerry> into Tuvan (where appropriate)
<CanoeBerry> Secondary project will be to incorporate Measure activity into the
<CanoeBerry> study of throat-singing tradition from Tuva.
<Mokurai> Have the translators contact me to get oriented on Pootle, the Wiki, etc.
<sv3rma> I am the mentor for this one
<sv3rma> We have already started translation
<Mokurai> Studying throat-singing is just the sort of thing I have been wishing for as a Measure application.
<sv3rma> throat-singing is fascinating
<Mokurai> This project, if managed well, can produce new publication-quality data.
<Mokurai> I know two throat-singers in the Slavyanka Russian Chorus.
<Mokurai> We performed central Asian Russian Orthodox music with throat-singing.
<sv3rma> BTW, the team doingthis is the same team that worked with Richard Feynman on discovering Tuva back in the 80's
<Mokurai> Excellent. Did they work on the Back Tuva Future CD?
<sv3rma> so, we have the team split into two pieces. We have two translators in SF, and I can support them through our resources here
<CanoeBerry> sv3rma: remind us, when is Air Tuva leaving/returning?
<sv3rma> yup Back Tuva Future
<sv3rma> KK Ondar leaves Monday
<CanoeBerry> Monday?!
<sv3rma> so, if this gets approved, we'll give her our XOs and swap the new ones
<CanoeBerry> You've got 2 XO-1.5s?
<CanoeBerry> Great if so.
<CanoeBerry> +1
<sv3rma> I have mine and one from the XO TOaster project
<CanoeBerry> Final recommendations here?
<GrannieB> +1
<Mokurai> Hey, so anybody can apply Measure to the CD! We can all get in on this.
<sv3rma> BTW, KK Ondar's father is *the* throat singer from Tuva. Check out TEDxCaltech for his performance
<CanoeBerry> Calling once..
<CanoeBerry> Calling twice..
<CanoeBerry> Calling thrice.
<sandrat> +1
<CanoeBerry> APPROVED if there are no lawsuits from http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Tuvalu :)
<sv3rma> sweet!
<Mokurai> Thanks, CanoeBerry.
<Mokurai> Thanks, everybody.
<sv3rma> This will be Tuva or Bust, part deux!
<CanoeBerry> OLPC Tuvalu here (http://olpcmap.net/?id=836005&km-distance=2000) is *different* from OLPC Tuva (http://olpcMAP.net?id=892003)
<CanoeBerry> Adjourned! Have a a great wkd all!
<sv3rma> Also, both OLPC Tuva and WiRED CHI are OLPC SF projects :-)
<sv3rma> until next time...
<sv3rma> Canoeberry: ship the XOs to Tiburon, CA. We'll get them from Ralph.
