View source for User:Xavi/Spanish POs

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== What is needed ==

The current ''(back in 2007!)'' workflow, described in [[Sugar i18n]] is only good for things kept both in http://dev.laptop.org AND http://translate.fedoraproject.org/module/ (listed under «<tt>OLPC :: xyzzy</tt>». The dynamics of the workflow are sub-optimal, which wouldn't be too problematic if it wasn't for the problem that there are quite a few activities hosted elsewhere...

This must change.

=== We need to know ===
# i18n
## split between activities that have done their i18n homework from those that haven't
## have access to some sort of 'master index of POTs'
# l10n - determine for '''each''' POT
## available POs
## status of each PO (how far it has been l10n-ized)

Having the list of all POTs, we should have an idea of the different workflows and how to coordinate with the development teams how to interface them. IOW, for things in dev.laptop.org we have the [[Sugar i18n]]; what about other development teams/sites?

=== Currently available ===

Currently I'm thinking about how to get the list of all things l10n-izables...
* we have an [[Activities]] index page, 
* most [[activities]] have in-wiki pages (ie: [[Kuku]], [[Write]])
* activity pages (in general) have their {{tl|Status box}} (that has a link to l10n things - but ad-hoc)
** we have a temptative replacement for {{tl|Status box}} using [[Olpcboxes]]

==== general sources ====

Dealing only with OLPC core activities (and Fedora) is just part of the 'sources'. A sample:
{|

|-
! Site !! Root !! Comments

|-
| [http://translate.fedoraproject.org/ Translate Fedora Project]
| [http://translate.fedoraproject.org/releases/olpc Release OLPC]
| The place where '''core''' or '''base''' activites keep it (ie: [[Write]], [[Chat]], [[Sugar]], etc)

|-
| [https://translations.launchpad.net Translations Launchpad]
| [https://translations.launchpad.net/etoys Etoys]
| The POTs & POs for [[Etoys]]

|-
| [http://penguintv.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/penguintv/trunk/ sourceforge.net]
| [http://penguintv.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/penguintv/trunk/po/ trunk/PO]
| [[News Reader]]

|-
| [http://dev.laptop.org/git?p=projects/turtleart-activity;a=summary dev.laptop.org]
| [http://dev.laptop.org/git?p=projects/turtleart-activity;a=tree tree]
| [[Turtle Art]]

|-
| [https://olpc.coderanger.net/svn/reversi/ coderanger.net]
| [https://olpc.coderanger.net/svn/reversi/Reversi.activity/ tree]
| [[Reversi]]

|-
| [http://virtual.tuquito.org.ar/trac/sugar/ tuquito.org.ar]
| [http://virtual.tuquito.org.ar/trac/sugar/browser/trunk/Ecomundo trunk]
| [[Ecomundo]]

|}

=== Possible solution ===

All those things together give the following possible solution:
* each activity page will have a [[foo/POs]] page
* in said [[foo/POs]] the structure would be similar to [[foo/translations]]
** <tt>[link to arabic po|ar] | [link to spanish po|es] | ... | [link to chinese po|zh]</tt>
* an [[Olpcboxes]] (ie: {{tl|OBX pot}}) would transclude said page in the activity page (much like {{tl|Translations}} or {{tl|Translation}})

For example there's {{tl|OBX pot}} which can be used / reshaped.

==== Thoughts ====
* PROs
** the [[foo/POs]] can be transcluded into one big 'index' (ie: [[Translated pages]]) for fast evaluation of status
** specific categories could be added in the [[foo/POs]] denoting available languages (thus all activities can be monitored by language)
*** for example besides stating in [[foo/POs]] links to each PO (ie: <tt>[link to chinese po|zh]</tt>) the following could be added (enclosed in <nowiki><noinclude></nowiki>):
**** <tt><nowiki>[[Category:PO lang-xx]]</nowiki></tt> &mdash; denoting that there's a PO in said <tt>'xx'</tt> language
**** <tt><nowiki>[[Category:PO lang-xx|status]]</nowiki></tt> &mdash; status could be "new", "finished", "working", etc. or even "wanted" if the PO is not available (then the POs would be 'grouped' in the category page by status, or we could develop other (sub-)categories for different views - this would probably deserve some sort of template to guarantee a homogeneous and consistent classification scheme.
* CONs
** more subpages :(
** the [[translating]] framework (much similar to this) has proven to be a bit messy
** the '''workflow''' is '''not''' addressed!
*** although each language team could develop their own, it wouldn't make sense to have 5 translator teams each with a different workflow because then the developers would just go bananas...
*** on the other hand, it wouldn't make much sense either to have 1 translator team deal with 5 different workflows on a per activity base...

== via subpages ==

<span class="plainlinks">
<table border=1 cellspacing=0 >
<tr>
 <th> Activity </th>
 <th>  </th>
 <th> Repository </th>
 <th> POT </th>
 <th colspan=2> POs </th>
</tr>
<tr>
 <td> [[Write]]</td>
 <td style="background:pink; "> 1 </td>
 <td> [http://translate.fedoraproject.org/module/olpc-write fedoraproject.org] </td>
 <td> [http://translate.fedoraproject.org/POT/olpc-write.master/write.master.pot write.master.pot] </td>
 <td> '''[[/PO-write.master|+/-]]''' </td>
 <td> {{/PO-write.master}} </td>
</tr>
</table>
</span>

Comments for this layout? Actually the <tt><nowiki>{{/PO-write.master}}</nowiki></tt> could actually be <tt><nowiki>{{:Write/POs}}</nowiki></tt>, iow, a sub-page of the activity page (which would make it easy to create a template for each row).

== manual in-line links ==

{| border=1 cellspacing=0
|-
! Component !! !! Repository !! POT !! .es.po !! Comments

|- valign=top
| [[Chat]]
| 
| [http://translate.fedoraproject.org/module/olpc-chat fedoraproject.org]
| [http://translate.fedoraproject.org/POT/olpc-chat.master/Chat.master.pot Chat.master.pot]
| [http://translate.fedoraproject.org/POT/olpc-chat.master/Chat.master.es.po Chat.master.es.po]
| ''has a pending update {{ticket|3257}}''

|- valign=top
| [[Connect]]
| 
| [http://translate.fedoraproject.org/module/olpc-connect fedoraproject.org]
| [http://translate.fedoraproject.org/POT/olpc-connect.master/Connect.master.pot Connect.master.pot]
| [http://translate.fedoraproject.org/POT/olpc-connect.master/Connect.master.es.po Connect.master.es.po]
| 

|- valign=top
| [[Drawing Activity]]
| style="background:pink; " | 2
| [http://translate.fedoraproject.org/module/olpc-draw fedoraproject.org]
| [http://translate.fedoraproject.org/POT/olpc-draw.master/paint.master.pot paint.master.pot]
[http://translate.fedoraproject.org/POT/olpc-draw.master/olpc-draw.master.pot olpc-draw.master.pot]
| 
| ''has a pending update {{ticket|3257}}''

|- valign=top
| rowspan=2 | [[Etoys]]
| rowspan=2 style="background:yellow; " | 4
| [http://translate.fedoraproject.org/module/olpc-etoys fedoraproject.org]
| [http://translate.fedoraproject.org/POT/olpc-etoys.master/EToys.master.pot EToys.master.pot]
| [http://translate.fedoraproject.org/POT/olpc-etoys.master/EToys.master.es.po EToys.master.es.po]
| WARNING: This is just KedamaWorld (a '''small''' part of Etoys)
''has a pending update {{ticket|3257}}''
|-
| [https://translations.launchpad.net/etoys launchpad.net]
| '''LOTS OF -POTs-'''
| '''LOTS OF -POs-'''
| Wasn't able to find a 'per language' list of all POTs/POs

|- valign=top
| [[Journal]]
| style="background:red; " | 0
| [http://translate.fedoraproject.org/module/olpc-journal-activity fedoraproject.org]
| [http://translate.fedoraproject.org/POT/olpc-journal-activity.master/journal-activity.master.pot journal-activity.master.pot]
| [http://translate.fedoraproject.org/POT/olpc-journal-activity.master/journal-activity.master.es.po journal-activity.master.es.po]
|

|- valign=top
| [[Sugar]]
| style="background:red; " | 0
| [http://translate.fedoraproject.org/module/olpc-sugar fedoraproject.org]
| [http://translate.fedoraproject.org/POT/olpc-sugar.master/olpc-sugar.master.pot olpc-sugar.master.pot]
| [http://translate.fedoraproject.org/POT/olpc-sugar.master/olpc-sugar.master.es.po olpc-sugar.master.es.po]
| 

|- valign=top
| [[TamTam]]
| style="background:pink; " | 3
| [http://translate.fedoraproject.org/module/olpc-tamtam fedoraproject.org]
| [http://translate.fedoraproject.org/POT/olpc-tamtam.master/TamTam.master.pot TamTam.master.pot]
| 
| ''has a pending update {{ticket|3305}}''

|- valign=top
| [[Web Browser]]
| style="background:yellow; " | 6
| [http://translate.fedoraproject.org/module/olpc-web-activity fedoraproject.org]
| [http://translate.fedoraproject.org/POT/olpc-web-activity.master/web-activity.master.pot web-activity.master.pot]
| [http://translate.fedoraproject.org/POT/olpc-web-activity.master/web-activity.master.es.po web-activity.master.es.po]
|

|- valign=top
| [[Write]]
| style="background:pink; " | 1
| [http://translate.fedoraproject.org/module/olpc-write fedoraproject.org]
| [http://translate.fedoraproject.org/POT/olpc-write.master/write.master.pot write.master.pot]
| [http://translate.fedoraproject.org/POT/olpc-write.master/write.master.es.po write.master.es.po]
|

|- valign=top
| [[Read]]
| 
| [http://translate.fedoraproject.org/module/olpc-xbook fedoraproject.org]
| [http://translate.fedoraproject.org/POT/olpc-xbook.master/xbook.master.pot xbook.master.pot]
| [http://translate.fedoraproject.org/POT/olpc-xbook.master/xbook.master.es.po xbook.master.es.po]
| ''has a pending update {{ticket|3257}}''

|- valign=top
| [[Turtle Art]]
| style="background:yellow; " | 5
| [http://dev.laptop.org/git?p=projects/turtleart-activity;a=summary dev.laptop.org]
| 
| 
|
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== dropping wiki-tables ==

{| border=1 cellspacing=0
|-
! Component !! !! Repository !! POT !! POs

|- valign=top
| [[Chat]]
| 
| [http://translate.fedoraproject.org/module/olpc-chat fedoraproject.org]
| [http://translate.fedoraproject.org/POT/olpc-chat.master/Chat.master.pot Chat.master.pot]
| {{/PO-Chat.master}}
[http://translate.fedoraproject.org/POT/olpc-chat.master/Chat.master.es.po Chat.master.es.po]

|- valign=top
| [[Connect]]
| 
| [http://translate.fedoraproject.org/module/olpc-connect fedoraproject.org]
| [http://translate.fedoraproject.org/POT/olpc-connect.master/Connect.master.pot Connect.master.pot]
| {{/PO-Connect.master}}
[http://translate.fedoraproject.org/POT/olpc-connect.master/Connect.master.es.po Connect.master.es.po]

|- valign=top
| [[Drawing Activity]]
| style="background:pink; " | 2
| [http://translate.fedoraproject.org/module/olpc-draw fedoraproject.org]
| [http://translate.fedoraproject.org/POT/olpc-draw.master/paint.master.pot paint.master.pot]
[http://translate.fedoraproject.org/POT/olpc-draw.master/olpc-draw.master.pot olpc-draw.master.pot]
| {{/PO-paint.master}}

|- valign=top
| rowspan=2 | [[Etoys]]
| rowspan=2 style="background:yellow; " | 4
| [http://translate.fedoraproject.org/module/olpc-etoys fedoraproject.org]
| [http://translate.fedoraproject.org/POT/olpc-etoys.master/EToys.master.pot EToys.master.pot]
| {{/PO-EToys.master}}
[http://translate.fedoraproject.org/POT/olpc-etoys.master/EToys.master.es.po EToys.master.es.po]

|-
| [https://translations.launchpad.net/etoys launchpad.net]
| '''LOTS OF -POTs-'''
| '''LOTS OF -POs-'''

|- valign=top
| [[Journal]]
| style="background:red; " | 0
| [http://translate.fedoraproject.org/module/olpc-journal-activity fedoraproject.org]
| [http://translate.fedoraproject.org/POT/olpc-journal-activity.master/journal-activity.master.pot journal-activity.master.pot]
| {{/PO-journal-activity}}
[http://translate.fedoraproject.org/POT/olpc-journal-activity.master/journal-activity.master.es.po journal-activity.master.es.po]

|- valign=top
| [[Sugar]]
| style="background:red; " | 0
| [http://translate.fedoraproject.org/module/olpc-sugar fedoraproject.org]
| [http://translate.fedoraproject.org/POT/olpc-sugar.master/olpc-sugar.master.pot olpc-sugar.master.pot]
| {{PO/olpc-sugar.master}}
[http://translate.fedoraproject.org/POT/olpc-sugar.master/olpc-sugar.master.es.po olpc-sugar.master.es.po]

|- valign=top
| [[TamTam]]
| style="background:pink; " | 3
| [http://translate.fedoraproject.org/module/olpc-tamtam fedoraproject.org]
| [http://translate.fedoraproject.org/POT/olpc-tamtam.master/TamTam.master.pot TamTam.master.pot]
|

|- valign=top
| [[Web Browser]]
| style="background:yellow; " | 6
| [http://translate.fedoraproject.org/module/olpc-web-activity fedoraproject.org]
| [http://translate.fedoraproject.org/POT/olpc-web-activity.master/web-activity.master.pot web-activity.master.pot]
| {{/PO-web-activity.master}}
[http://translate.fedoraproject.org/POT/olpc-web-activity.master/web-activity.master.es.po web-activity.master.es.po]

|- valign=top
| [[Read]]
| 
| [http://translate.fedoraproject.org/module/olpc-xbook fedoraproject.org]
| [http://translate.fedoraproject.org/POT/olpc-xbook.master/xbook.master.pot xbook.master.pot]
| {{/PO-xbook.master}}
[http://translate.fedoraproject.org/POT/olpc-xbook.master/xbook.master.es.po xbook.master.es.po]

|- valign=top
| [[Turtle Art]]
| style="background:yellow; " | 5
| [http://dev.laptop.org/git?p=projects/turtleart-activity;a=summary dev.laptop.org]
| 
| 
|}

Incompatible with the use of '|' as PO delimeter...