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[[storyasking]] is a [[game]] we can [[play]] to share language [[learning]].. we can [[to storyask|storyask]] to teach language we know.. and we can also play to learn new language.. we call it story''asking'' because we don't ''tell'' stories, we ''ask'' stories.. when we storyask, we're not sure what's gonna happen in a story, but chances are we're gonna have fun, [[feel]] good and learn each other's [[language]].. how? |
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* '''Interns''' - If you are interested in this project, add your name to the ''Interested interns'' section below along with a brief description of why you're interested and why you'd be a good mentor for this project, along with any specific ideas for execution you might have beyond the project description. |
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* '''Mentors''' - If you are interested in this project, add your name to the ''Interested mentors'' section below along with a brief description of why you're interested and why you'd be a good mentor for this project, along with any specific ideas for execution you might have beyond the project description. |
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* '''Others''' - If you are interested in this project in a role other than that of potential mentor or potential intern (example: you are an organization, a potential end-user/tester, may have helpful resources, or want to be notified if the project is chosen), add your name to the ''Other interested parties'' section below with contact information and details. |
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* '''Everyone''' - Contribute to the project description on this page, or discuss this project on the associated [[Talk:Summer_of_Content_WiXi|talk page]]. |
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The deadline for editing this proposal or adding yourself to the list is '''11:59pm EST (GMT-5) on August 12, 2007.''' |
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== Project description == |
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more than anything, we learn because we're having fun.. we're not bored by studying grammar or tired old stories.. our stories are alive; they've never been heard before.. and they're about ''us''.. we learn new language just like we learned language we already know.. with input we understand and care about. |
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=input!= |
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[[WiXi]] gets multilingual text twext on a wiki platform.. twext text helps to provide [http://sk.com.br/sk-krash.html comprensible input] for language learners.. a more appropriate use of twext for little OLPC kids may be development of [http://storyaksing.com/game "storyasking"] game buiding on the [http://scratch.mit.edu scratch] platform.. the aim is for kids to help each other to learn each others languages by creating context rich, meaningful interactions.. |
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storyasking works with a key ingredient: [[input]].. input from a [[storyasker]] who knows the language.. and cares enough to make input [[meaningful input|meaningful]] to players who want to learn.. why is input key? how make input meaningful? |
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==does everyone get it?== |
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also see: http://www.olpcnews.com/content/localization/learning_language.html |
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if asking any story, make sure everyone [[comprehensible input|understands]] all the words.. if players don't know what language even says, how can anyone expect to follow any story? so if you wanna help players learn new language, help them learn to hear it and understand what it says and know what it means.. here are some rules: |
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* stay [[in bounds]].. if the story needs some new language, then: |
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=== Deliverables === |
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* [[define|write]] new language and translation to known language |
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* [http://twext.cc/twexter twexter] [http://sf.net/projects/twexter code] integration w/ [http://scratch.mit.edu scratch] |
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* [[circling|circle]] some questions.. make'em connect.. |
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* integrate [http://storasking.com/TPRS TPRS] practices |
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* [[listen]] to the [[best]] player: do they get it? |
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* always [[point and pause]] |
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* [[go slow|GO SLOW]] |
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* [[repeat]] |
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==does anyone care?== |
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=== Possible extensions === |
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understandable input, if boring, is boring.. to really [[connect]] learners with language, input must be meaningful, interesting, funny, sad, wise, truthful, whatever.. a good way to connect with players is to ask how they feel about stories or life in general.. ask about [[feelings]].. |
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* sound at variable speed to insure comprehension |
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=who cares?= |
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== Interested interns == |
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who is getting the input? what are their [[name]]s? what do they like to do? ask them to write their name and draw a picture of what they like to do.. [[circle with balls]].. ask them to answer a questionnaire.. it's hard to connect with anyone or make anything meaningful if you don't learn who they are.. the only way to find out is to ask.. |
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==ask real questions== |
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==='''Gerardo Iglesias Galvan'''=== |
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ask real questions to learn who players are and what they like.. real questions can lead to cute answers, sad stories, wise words like sayings or proverbs, etc.. whatever it takes to make input meaningful.. ''it's usually about feelings''.. real questions can even get kinda personal like: |
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* what do you want? |
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it's a great project and I think will help everyone to learn |
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* what don't you want? |
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* what's up with this [[questionnaire]]? |
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* what's really going on here? |
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by asking real questions, you make stories that players care about.. so they [[want]] to know more.. good stories connect with our feelings.. the more we connect with stories, the more meaningful the language is to us.. when stories ask us what we love and hate, what we want and fear, we connect with the stories and we learn from them.. |
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== Interested mentors == |
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==ask useful questions== |
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===Duke Crawford=== |
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before any question or story can be meaningful, it must first be understandable.. so practically speaking, players should first learn practical questions to confirm comprehension: |
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co-inventing twext, has some cash to pay the right developer for delivery of [http://twext.cc/go/18 multilingual twexter] (with [[wixi]] page history functions).. twext was recently kinda well received at an international TPRS conference of language teachers.. |
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* understand? (or get it? or OK?) |
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i'll be updating this page/proposal today.. thanks to Ben for your belief that twext may be useful to TRPS or [[storyasking]] :) 14:02, 5 August 2007 (EDT) |
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* do you care? |
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* what did i just say? |
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* what does _______ mean? |
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* can you repeat? |
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* slower? |
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as players work with useful questions and real questions, they are more able to interact with the story and take an active role in their own learning of a language.. |
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=== Ben Slavic === |
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==ask good questions== |
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ben, hi! i added a "=" on either side so the table of contents formats right.. |
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good questions can be simple but not easy to answer.. what's it all about, alfie? really good questions really make you think.. if you wanna "think" in a language, try thinking about good questions.. |
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==circle them questions== |
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questions can "circle" around any new language.. "[[circling]]" questions ask around a blob of new language over and over in slightly new contexts.. questions and more questions.. questions that circle around new language confirm that all players understand the new language.. and how the new language changes the story.. after answering enough questions, players start to speak a little in language.. |
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=output!= |
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interaction in language is where the action is.. if a player isn't answering questions or playing a role, then a player is out of the game.. the more a player wants to learn, the more they play.. with answers.. to all kindsa questions.. it's best if all players answer all questions all the time.. always.. |
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==react== |
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if you're playing, you first learn to react, '''[[emote|with feeling]]'''.. ''reacting'' to the story.. your reactions tell the storyasker either that you get it.. or not.. players start with four or five little words to react, with feeling, to any story: |
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* AAH!: <FONT COLOR="gray">say "aah!" when you understand that something new happens in the story</font> |
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* OH NO!: <FONT COLOR="gray">say "oh no!" when you understand something bad happens in the story</font> |
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* OK!: <FONT COLOR="gray">say "ok!" when you get it: stop the circling and go the story</font> |
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* '''HUH??'''!!!: <FONT COLOR="gray">ask huh? or say help! when you don't understand something in the story</font> |
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*<font color="silver">GRRR and HMMM and DOH etc soon, but get to know above reactions first..</font> |
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if you want to learn the language, the most important question you can ask is "huh?".. if you don't ask for help, you don't get what you want.. you feel lost and [[feel]] bad.. not good.. but it's easy to change that.. just ask for help! |
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===emote=== |
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this is a game about expressing feelings.. sharing stories that somehow touch our feelings.. so it's ok to react to stories with feeling.. it's ok to exaggerate feelings or overact a little.. it's more than ok, it's fun!! storyasking just is a game.. it's [[free|ours]] to play.. so feel free to express yourself!! |
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I have written two books about TPRS, both very well received within the TPRS community by Blaine Ray, Susan Gross, Joe Neilson et al. The books (TPRS in a Year! and PQA in a Wink!) serve to deconfuse. |
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==answer== |
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I was lucky enough to meet Duke Crawford at the National TPRS conference. From discussion with him, I was able to clearly see the applicability of TPRS to twexting and all of Duke's work. It is like a vast hidden treasure trove. |
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after you practice reacting, learn to answer questions.. the storyasker asks as few questions as possible, so players focus on really learning.. better dig deep than wide.. when we really know language, we can use what we know to learn more language.. here are some simple answers to start with: |
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* YES! or NO! |
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* what is it? IT IS _________! |
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* who? (NAME!) |
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* why? (BECAUSE!) |
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later players can learn how to answer which, where, when, how many and other questions.. any storyaskers can ask any question.. but best start with as few questions and answers as possible.. |
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==ask== |
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as you learn how to answer questions, you learn how to ask questions.. when you learn how to ask questions in a new language, you have the keys to learn more and more of the language.. all you have to do is ask! |
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==story== |
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when you learn by storyasking, you're like to learn how to teach with storyasking.. the more language you know, the more you can teach.. it's pretty easy: repeat, learn to listen, answer, ask questions, ask a story, make sure everyone gets it, have fun and GO SLOW!.. |
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=play= |
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if you wanna learn language and play storyasking, you don't just sit back.. you [[play]] the game.. you are a part of it.. you react, you answer, you ask.. you learn how to learn language you want to learn.. it takes some work to learn language, but it can be so much fun it really just feels like play.. |
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=happy ending= |
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to get anything done, it often helps to keep your eyes on the prize.. to begin with the end in mind.. ask yourself: what do you want? |
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in a game, players wanna win.. in some games, everybody wins! storyasking is about learning more language.. so we can communicate with more people.. who loses? the more we can communicate, the more opportunities we have to make friends.. the more friends we make, the more people we can play with and the more we can learn together.. |
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==communicate== |
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storyasking isn't about speaking exactly perfectly correctly at first.. that comes later.. even if mistakes are made, if we focus first on communication, we learn from the best teachers of all.. the natives: |
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<font size="-1">"In the real world, conversations with sympathetic native speakers |
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who are willing to help the acquirer understand are very helpful." |
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-- [http://sk.com.br/sk-krash.html Dr. Stephen Krashen]</font> |
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===correctly=== |
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it took time to learn your first language.. it takes time and practice to learn any language.. trying to speak perfectly from the first step can cause potentially great communicators to feel bad and stop.. it feels much better to forgive mistakes and just focus on communication.. the more you communicate and read in any language, the more you will learn that language.. like they say: "practice makes perfect" or maybe "mejor mearse de risa y no de prisa".. |
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==around the world== |
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storyasking ain't only about learning language in some classroom.. it's about learning language out on the playground, on the street and especially online on the internet.. meeting people, sharing stories and learning language can be so much fun.. if you want to learn language, try to use it everywhere you can! have fun with the language and make friends with it.. |
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I wish to serve as a mentor (in the capacity of a guide/connecting point between TPRS and twexting) to whomever will be working on the development of this technology. To become a reality, twexting is going to require a detailed knowledge of this new and very highly powered (actually exploding all over the world as of late) foreign language method (TPRS). All the points of contact between TPRS and twexting need to be identified for twexting to succeed - this is a point which cannot be emphasized enough. Hence my desire to serve this project from the TPRS side. |
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http://storyask.com has this page with some links.. |
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Ben Slavic |
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Littleton, CO |
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'''<font color="blue">[[storyasking]] is a [[free]] child of [http://www.blaineraytprs.com/pages.php?page=explanationpage TPRS]..''' TPRS is an awesome tool used by [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/moretprs thousands of language teachers].. storyasking wants to bring TPRS to more language learners, especially young language learners using the OLPC XO.. </font> |
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: <font color="gray">let the log-rolling begin.. Ben Slavic is not an average French teacher.. he consistently places his middle-school students above top ''high''-school students in the State and nationwide.. one of his students actually found an error in the AP exam (written by experts).. Ben is a master practioner of the TPRS method, which effectively [[constructionist|involves]] students in the learning process.. [[User:Duke|Duke]] 15:34, 6 August 2007 (EDT)</font> |
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some kinda storyasking game might be able to integrate with [[WiXi]] and [[Scratch]].. |
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== other interested parties == |
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===Beth Skelton=== |
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I'm interested in the twext technology for TPRS--especially for ESL. I have been working with TPRS and English Language Learners for the past 5 years and think twext has a lot of potential. I have published some TPRS materials for English Language Learners and give regular workshops. My website is: www.bethskelton.com |
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===Bernie Schlafke=== |
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hey, Duke! it's Bernie, adding my name! |
Latest revision as of 01:31, 8 January 2008
storyasking is a game we can play to share language learning.. we can storyask to teach language we know.. and we can also play to learn new language.. we call it storyasking because we don't tell stories, we ask stories.. when we storyask, we're not sure what's gonna happen in a story, but chances are we're gonna have fun, feel good and learn each other's language.. how? funmore than anything, we learn because we're having fun.. we're not bored by studying grammar or tired old stories.. our stories are alive; they've never been heard before.. and they're about us.. we learn new language just like we learned language we already know.. with input we understand and care about. input!storyasking works with a key ingredient: input.. input from a storyasker who knows the language.. and cares enough to make input meaningful to players who want to learn.. why is input key? how make input meaningful? does everyone get it?if asking any story, make sure everyone understands all the words.. if players don't know what language even says, how can anyone expect to follow any story? so if you wanna help players learn new language, help them learn to hear it and understand what it says and know what it means.. here are some rules:
does anyone care?understandable input, if boring, is boring.. to really connect learners with language, input must be meaningful, interesting, funny, sad, wise, truthful, whatever.. a good way to connect with players is to ask how they feel about stories or life in general.. ask about feelings.. who cares?who is getting the input? what are their names? what do they like to do? ask them to write their name and draw a picture of what they like to do.. circle with balls.. ask them to answer a questionnaire.. it's hard to connect with anyone or make anything meaningful if you don't learn who they are.. the only way to find out is to ask.. ask real questionsask real questions to learn who players are and what they like.. real questions can lead to cute answers, sad stories, wise words like sayings or proverbs, etc.. whatever it takes to make input meaningful.. it's usually about feelings.. real questions can even get kinda personal like:
by asking real questions, you make stories that players care about.. so they want to know more.. good stories connect with our feelings.. the more we connect with stories, the more meaningful the language is to us.. when stories ask us what we love and hate, what we want and fear, we connect with the stories and we learn from them.. ask useful questionsbefore any question or story can be meaningful, it must first be understandable.. so practically speaking, players should first learn practical questions to confirm comprehension:
as players work with useful questions and real questions, they are more able to interact with the story and take an active role in their own learning of a language.. ask good questionsgood questions can be simple but not easy to answer.. what's it all about, alfie? really good questions really make you think.. if you wanna "think" in a language, try thinking about good questions.. circle them questionsquestions can "circle" around any new language.. "circling" questions ask around a blob of new language over and over in slightly new contexts.. questions and more questions.. questions that circle around new language confirm that all players understand the new language.. and how the new language changes the story.. after answering enough questions, players start to speak a little in language.. output!interaction in language is where the action is.. if a player isn't answering questions or playing a role, then a player is out of the game.. the more a player wants to learn, the more they play.. with answers.. to all kindsa questions.. it's best if all players answer all questions all the time.. always.. reactif you're playing, you first learn to react, with feeling.. reacting to the story.. your reactions tell the storyasker either that you get it.. or not.. players start with four or five little words to react, with feeling, to any story:
if you want to learn the language, the most important question you can ask is "huh?".. if you don't ask for help, you don't get what you want.. you feel lost and feel bad.. not good.. but it's easy to change that.. just ask for help! answerafter you practice reacting, learn to answer questions.. the storyasker asks as few questions as possible, so players focus on really learning.. better dig deep than wide.. when we really know language, we can use what we know to learn more language.. here are some simple answers to start with:
later players can learn how to answer which, where, when, how many and other questions.. any storyaskers can ask any question.. but best start with as few questions and answers as possible.. askas you learn how to answer questions, you learn how to ask questions.. when you learn how to ask questions in a new language, you have the keys to learn more and more of the language.. all you have to do is ask! storywhen you learn by storyasking, you're like to learn how to teach with storyasking.. the more language you know, the more you can teach.. it's pretty easy: repeat, learn to listen, answer, ask questions, ask a story, make sure everyone gets it, have fun and GO SLOW!.. playif you wanna learn language and play storyasking, you don't just sit back.. you play the game.. you are a part of it.. you react, you answer, you ask.. you learn how to learn language you want to learn.. it takes some work to learn language, but it can be so much fun it really just feels like play.. happy endingto get anything done, it often helps to keep your eyes on the prize.. to begin with the end in mind.. ask yourself: what do you want? in a game, players wanna win.. in some games, everybody wins! storyasking is about learning more language.. so we can communicate with more people.. who loses? the more we can communicate, the more opportunities we have to make friends.. the more friends we make, the more people we can play with and the more we can learn together.. communicatestoryasking isn't about speaking exactly perfectly correctly at first.. that comes later.. even if mistakes are made, if we focus first on communication, we learn from the best teachers of all.. the natives: "In the real world, conversations with sympathetic native speakers who are willing to help the acquirer understand are very helpful." -- Dr. Stephen Krashen correctlyit took time to learn your first language.. it takes time and practice to learn any language.. trying to speak perfectly from the first step can cause potentially great communicators to feel bad and stop.. it feels much better to forgive mistakes and just focus on communication.. the more you communicate and read in any language, the more you will learn that language.. like they say: "practice makes perfect" or maybe "mejor mearse de risa y no de prisa".. around the worldstoryasking ain't only about learning language in some classroom.. it's about learning language out on the playground, on the street and especially online on the internet.. meeting people, sharing stories and learning language can be so much fun.. if you want to learn language, try to use it everywhere you can! have fun with the language and make friends with it.. |
http://storyask.com has this page with some links.. storyasking is a free child of TPRS.. TPRS is an awesome tool used by thousands of language teachers.. storyasking wants to bring TPRS to more language learners, especially young language learners using the OLPC XO.. some kinda storyasking game might be able to integrate with WiXi and Scratch.. |