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For running XO disk images on an emulator, some builds are better than others, and the most recent one will not always work. Here is a summary of current status. Please add your own experiences here, and in [[User Feedback on Images]].
For running XO disk images on an emulator, some builds are better than others, and the most recent one will not always work. Here is a summary of current status. Please add your own experiences here, and in [[User Feedback on Images]].


[http://olpc.download.redhat.com/olpc/streams/development/build602-20070920_2254/devel_ext3/ 602] is believed to work in qemu, but has not been extensively tested. TamTam sound still doesn't work [http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/1978 #1978]. [[User:MitchellNCharity|MitchellNCharity]] 13:44, 29 September 2007 (EDT)
[http://olpc.download.redhat.com/olpc/streams/development/LATEST/devel_ext3/ LATEST] has been working on qemu lately. TamTam sound doesn't work [http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/1978 #1978].
:In 602, on qemu but not a B4, Browse doesn't show the default content - remains gray. [[User:MitchellNCharity|MitchellNCharity]] 14:47, 29 September 2007 (EDT)
:609 seems similar. [[User:MitchellNCharity|MitchellNCharity]] 15:01, 29 September 2007 (EDT)


Build [http://olpc.download.redhat.com/olpc/streams/development/build558-20070827_0241/devel_ext3/ 557] is reported to work on VirtualBox and VMWare.
[http://olpc.download.redhat.com/olpc/streams/development/build611/devel_ext3/ 611] has been run on qemu, but has not been extensively tested. [[User:MitchellNCharity|MitchellNCharity]] 12:16, 3 October 2007 (EDT)

Build 611 is reported to not boot in VMWare. [[User:MitchellNCharity|MitchellNCharity]] 12:16, 3 October 2007 (EDT)


Build 593 is reported[http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/3470#comment:8] to boot on VMWare.
Build 593 is reported[http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/3470#comment:8] to boot on VMWare.


Build [http://olpc.download.redhat.com/olpc/streams/development/build558-20070827_0241/devel_ext3/ 557] is reported to work on VirtualBox and VMWare.
Build 609 is reported to not run on qemu (#olpc 2007-09-29). [[User:MitchellNCharity|MitchellNCharity]] 00:51, 29 September 2007 (EDT)
:Runs for me. Booted, network/Neighborhood worked. Journal didn't start on first boot, but did on second. [[User:MitchellNCharity|MitchellNCharity]] 15:01, 29 September 2007 (EDT)


== Overview ==
== Overview ==

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Simulating an XO

Emulators allow you to run a "virtual machine" on a (reasonably powerful) host machine. There are a number of emulator systems available which can be used to run a simulated OLPC-XO. The three listed here provide either Open Source or Gratis players to run images:

As of official build 557, VirtualBox and VMWare are both able to load converted images with networking support. VirtualBox also provides sound support. At the moment, these converted images are the recommended practice for simulating an XO, both for testing out the environment and developing activities.

Is sound working in TamTam? Or only in general? MitchellNCharity 13:44, 29 September 2007 (EDT)

As of 602, Qemu is able to run the official images with networking support. Sound doesn't work in TamTam #1978.

Simulating a Developer's Desktop

Most core developers use Fedora 7 or Ubuntu Feisty desktops which are running sugar-jhbuild to track the latest developments in the code-base. This allows you to integrate into the core development process, but can be a considerable maintenance headache due to the fragile nature of the build process.

You can readily run a simulated Fedora/Ubuntu desktop in VMWare. This setup is not substantially different from running a regular Linux desktop using sugar-jhbuild.

Note: This approach is really only recommended for those who want to work on core components of the environment, activity developers are probably better off using an official image.

Note: Previously we have attempted to provide LiveCD and Developer Images for download. Manpower issues have meant that these images have fallen far behind the official images, thus they are no longer a recommended approach for developers. If you are interested in volunteering to maintain the LiveCD or Developer Images, please contact Mike Fletcher.

Comparison of alternatives

An OLPC laptop is custom hardware, running a stripped-down Red Hat linux, running Sugar. But what if you don't have a real olpc laptop? There are a several options, which can each be used in a couple of ways.

platform purpose recommendation
Ubuntu play & development xo disk images on qemu. See Emulating the XO/Quick Start.
Ubuntu 32-bit core development Sugar with sugar-jhbuild and Sugar on Ubuntu Linux
Fedora play & development xo disk images on qemu. See Emulating the XO/Quick Start. Perhaps also on VirtualBox?
Fedora 32-bit core development Sugar with sugar-jhbuild and Category:Installing_Sugar
Gentoo 32-bit core development Sugar with sugar-jhbuild and Category:Installing_Sugar
Other linux & FreeBSD play & development xo disk images on qemu. See Emulating the XO/Quick Start. Perhaps also on VirtualBox?
Windows play & development emulated xo disk image, on VirtualBox, VMWare, or QEMU on Windows.
Mac play & development emulated xo disk image, on qemu. See Emulating the XO/Quick Start/Mac. Perhaps also VirtualBox and VMWare? See also /Mac.
Mac with Parallels play emulated xo disk image, networking works after manually "dhclient eth0", sound does not work (Build 593).
Mac with Parallels core development run Ubuntu 32-bit, and Sugar on Ubuntu Linux. See /Mac. F7 may be better - see below

Uncertainties:

  • Is F7 better than Ubuntu for sugar-jhbuild? If so, should the Mac Parallels recommendation for core development be F7 rather than Ubuntu, despite the latter having a track record in /Mac? MitchellNCharity 10:33, 20 September 2007 (EDT)
    • Yes, you will have less problems with Fedora 7, once you get it working in Parallels (which is harder than Ubuntu I think). I am running F7 because I need to be able to build RPMs. Bert 08:33, 25 September 2007 (EDT)

Build recommendations

For running XO disk images on an emulator, some builds are better than others, and the most recent one will not always work. Here is a summary of current status. Please add your own experiences here, and in User Feedback on Images.

LATEST has been working on qemu lately. TamTam sound doesn't work #1978.

611 has been run on qemu, but has not been extensively tested. MitchellNCharity 12:16, 3 October 2007 (EDT)

Build 611 is reported to not boot in VMWare. MitchellNCharity 12:16, 3 October 2007 (EDT)

Build 593 is reported[1] to boot on VMWare.

Build 557 is reported to work on VirtualBox and VMWare.

Overview

This is the old introduction section. It needs to be updated. Eg, the LiveCd is currently not a useful alternative. And "just use the latest build" isn't good advice, as a more selective approach has been needed. MitchellNCharity 23:36, 19 September 2007 (EDT)

One way to run oplc software is using an emulator on your pc. See Getting started programming for other options.

Note Category:Emulation and Help and tips.

For play, you can use LiveCd or Quick Start.

For development, you can use LiveCd, or qemu (as in quick start, but with a different image), or perhaps one of the Developer Images other than the LiveCd. An alternate approach is to attempt installing sugar. See Getting started programming for a comparison.

A common development approach is to use QEMU with kqemu acceleration. See Quick Start for the basics. Though for development, we will use a different .img, one with a few extra utility programs. See OS images, including latest stable build.

Instead of qemu, you can run VMware, and there are additional options on a Mac.

Please report your experiences in User Feedback on Images. There is a Virtualization Common Room.

There are limitations with XO disk images.

The LATEST-STABLE-BUILD versus LATEST build distinction is mostly of interest to people running on actual XO's. In emulation, developers should usually use LATEST. And when STABLE is old, non-developers probably should too.


See also