User talk:Ideasman

Greetings

Hello Charles, please log in to edit. And please don't include personal information about yourself, or ask people to contact you personally. You are making statements about your work in the Philippines which do not seem to be accurate; please explain them on your userpage.

• What sort of organization are you setting up in the country? Is it identified formally? You do not have permission to use the OLPC name as part of a personal organization; if you are doing so you must stop immediately.
• What sort of arrangements are you making with other organizations? You do not represent the work of eKindling with the Lubang pilot; as I understand it they have explicitly asked not to be associated with your work. Please do not misrepresent this.

--Sj talk 02:55, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

Hi SJ,

You have put in a disadvantage as I do not believe we have met.

Yes, its true I am based in Sydney, Australia but so as a lot of supporters of OLPC Philippines.

I think if you had read the information you deleted on the OLPC foundation you will know it is a registered non-stock, non-profit foundation registered in the Philippines with the local Securities and Exchange Commission.

I do not claim to represent or be associated with eKindling. As you will ask them they will confirm this.

Even though eKindling would like to claim I was never involved with the Lubang pilot, it was me who first met with the sponsoring group led by Meg Simpson and Susan Abaya. I was the first person who sold the idea and got Mayor Sanchez's support for it. I was the one who introduced the group to Mitch Seaton from OLPC friends Australia. I helped the group in organising the deployment with the rest of their members in Sydney (Meg is based in Sydney). And only at that point when that I consented to the request of Meg Simpson that they involved eKindling did they come in to assist with the deployment. I must admit without their support the deployment was not possible. However, this does not mean I had nothing to do with the project. Actually, Meg told me one of the conditions given by ekindling to assist the project is to exclude sharing with me any further information with me.

I would appreciate in the future before you remove any information I placed in the Wiki you first consider whether this is right.

I do not do this for ego or neither for fraudent purposes. I trust you have the same values.

Thanks.

Charles

Clarifications

Hi Charles, I understand that there are a lot of Philippines nationals and OLPC PH supporters in Australia. That's great. And I understand that you were involved in helping gather support for the original idea, and making the necessary introductions, as Meg has clarified. I hope that together you can publish a balanced history of the Lubang project.

But I don't think the current edit war on the OLPC Philippines page is helping anyone. And whereas eKindling is an active organization with a mailing list, blog, photostream, and lots of third-party verification of their work, you seem to be working alone. If you want an organization you are involved with to be mentioned in the context of OLPC Philippines, please describe it somewhere, including the projects it is working on and who is involved. If this is just a personal project of yours that has never been mentioned in any blog or news source, it's not notable enough for us to list it as an active grassroots effort. Regards, --Sj talk 22:23, 26 July 2010 (UTC)