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<CanoeBerry> Meeting here in 30min, help us review Contributors Projects for hardware approval! Agenda here: <CanoeBerry> http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2009-April/024227.html <CanoeBerry> Background here: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Contributors_program

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<sj|> hot! get your meeting here! <sj|> hiya RalPaes, caroline <CanoeBerry> Contrib Program Meeting starting in a min! <caroline> hi sj <RalPaes> Hello! <CanoeBerry> Minutes will be shares here later: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Contributors_program/meetings <CanoeBerry> Please see our agenda here: http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2009-April/024227.html

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<sverma> hey gang! <CanoeBerry> Hi Sameer & Yamma. <CanoeBerry> Welcome all.. <sverma> hi Adam <Yamaplos> hi guys

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<RalPaes> Hello everyone! <CanoeBerry> Sameer & Ralston: sorry I didn't get thru RT setup just yet, call me in an hour OK? <CanoeBerry> Should be quick.. will show you around fast. <CanoeBerry> OK, let's start our CP Meeting. <sverma> ok <CanoeBerry> OK, let's start our CP Meeting.http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Contributors_program <CanoeBerry> Agenda Item A: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Projects#XO_Laptop_Lending_Libraries <CanoeBerry> How can we all help libraries bloom? <CanoeBerry> Check out the dozen libraries emerging in the link above!

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<CanoeBerry> We need to do a better job cross-fertilizin :) <sverma> just added http://wiki.laptop.org/go/SFSU_Lending_Library <CanoeBerry> Great. That is out Project #6 we will review in a few minutes. <CanoeBerry> I also know of a German library applying right now..

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<caroline> what does a blooming lending library look like? how do you measure success? <CanoeBerry> Traffic! <CanoeBerry> gregdek (who just joined) helped a Fedora "library" of 100 XO's really thrive with the help of David Nalley. <CanoeBerry> Others have been slower out of the gate.. <CanoeBerry> Needing a push ;) <CanoeBerry> So let's all stay on it. XO's & projects need regular meetings and/or promotion to get moving. <gregdek> Yeah, David Nalley did every bit of that.  :) <CanoeBerry> Baseline ideas here: <CanoeBerry> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Contributors_program_criteria#Proposed_criteria_for_starting_a_Regional_XO_Laptop_Library <CanoeBerry> So we should learn from David Nalley.. even tho his model (distributed, more long-term loans etc) is a bit different from the local project pools.. <Yamaplos> On Sunday I am having a meeting with people interested in the Austin library <CanoeBerry> Awesome. At home?! <Yamaplos> nope, a room I borrowed from my church, about 20 people expected <CanoeBerry> Fantastic. It'll be great to hear what you put together. <Yamaplos> thanks! <sverma> something came up at the olpc-sf meeting <Yamaplos> also, sort of similar topic but not quite, and as part of my refocus in Austin, I am starting this: <Yamaplos> http://www.meetup.com/Quality-Education-for-All/ <sverma> groups need focal points <sverma> if the XOs are the supply, then they need demand <sverma> enthusiasm only lasts for so long...

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<sverma> volunteers and newbies need direction...something tangible <sverma> we (olpc-sf) are facing the problem of focus <CanoeBerry> mtd: got any early feedback on where your Brit library's headed? <CanoeBerry> chirp in anytime if so! <sverma> so, I'd say all library projects should also address the problem of focal points <Yamaplos> BTW, we have a grantor for $25 K for XO units (that willñ be interesting if we can get just 100...) for Bolivia, and $10 K for deployment (which means that I will still not get employed... <Yamaplos> ? focal points? <sverma> focal point = what do we do with the XO? <sverma> its very much like Sugar...children need an activity to gather around <sverma> you cannot make a group without an activity <mtd> CanoeBerry: sorry I'm playing with my son, who's entranced with the keyboard, so my feed <mtd> back <sverma> similarly, groups/libraries need to foster activities <Yamaplos> OK - for me, since I am going to Bolivia 2 weeks, I am trying to get kids to do one piucture +explaining text. When I come back, that is publishable, and they can explore the rest <CanoeBerry> I agree -- even the best Science Fairs have some repetition in their projects ;) <mtd> 0=[ <sverma> fostering is hard! <CanoeBerry> mtd: can you speak a bit about your UK library plans? <CanoeBerry> and have you heard any good news about the London meetup 2 weeks back? <caroline> I did a "Protocol" for my last Sugar exploration meeting, that sort of thing might be useful. <Yamaplos> ouch, guys, sorry, I almost forgot, I'm meeting Thomas Umstattd fresh from Russia, he has GREAT insights he shared on the phone. gotta go! <Yamaplos> I'll leave the chat window open so I can see what went on <caroline> Perhaps try to get groups to produce user guides or blurbs for activities.laptop.org during a 2 hour meeting. <sverma> caroline: yes, we have narrowed down six projects...and will focus on three at least <CanoeBerry> Aside: I love old-fashioned http://librarian.net -- the librarian profession's earning its name as even these Librarian W/O Borders have contacted us: http://www.lwb-online.org <CanoeBerry> Yamaplos: plz post an update around Umstattd's project here http://rt.laptop.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=33978 and here: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Projects <CanoeBerry> OK, let's start for real now. We will need mentors. For as many as possible of those 6 projects we're now going to review..

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<CanoeBerry> 1. OLPC Tanzania HIV/AIDS Initiative [MIT, USA] <CanoeBerry> http://rt.laptop.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=38094 <CanoeBerry> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Tanzania <CanoeBerry> Requests 30 XO's for 6wks <CanoeBerry> Project Objectives: (long pasting coming, beware...) <CanoeBerry> Practical HIV diagnostics are urgently needed in resource-limited <CanoeBerry> settings like Tanzania. While HIV infection can be diagnosed using <CanoeBerry> simple, rapid, lateral flow immunoassays, HIV disease staging and <CanoeBerry> treatment monitoring require accurate counting of a particular white <CanoeBerry> blood cell subset, the CD4(+) T lymphocyte. To address the limitations <CanoeBerry> of current expensive, technically demanding and/or time-consuming <CanoeBerry> approaches, we have developed a simple CD4 counting microfluidic device. <CanoeBerry> This device uses cell affinity chromatography operated under <CanoeBerry> differential shear flow to specifically isolate CD4(+) T lymphocytes <CanoeBerry> with high efficiency directly from 10 microliters of unprocessed, <CanoeBerry> unlabeled whole blood. CD4 counts determined in our device matched <CanoeBerry> measurements by conventional flow cytometry among HIV-positive subjects <CanoeBerry> over a wide range of absolute CD4 counts (R(2) = 0.93) during clinical <CanoeBerry> trials at Massachusetts General Hospital. CD4 counts will be obtained <CanoeBerry> under an optical microscope connected to OLPC in a rapid, simple and <CanoeBerry> label-free fashion. <CanoeBerry> Famous advisor appear involved, FYI: Amy Smith @ MIT (Mech Engineer professor doing lots of intl dev work) <sverma> so, does the device plug into the XO? <sverma> oh, I see it. <sverma> microscope plugs into the XO <CanoeBerry> 6 week loan is unusually short, and somewhat concerning..

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<CanoeBerry> on the bright side, these people are across the street from OLPC here <sverma> it may be tied to the program timetable <sverma> they may have only 6 weeks to do this <CanoeBerry> perhaps -- which 6 weeks etc tho, is a concern <CanoeBerry> isforinsects is looking over their proposal, memories of OLPC Health.. <CanoeBerry> which several of us would love to revive <isforinsects> And I'm starting to work towards <isforinsects> I say yes, with the strong expectation that it is a short term loan <isforinsects> 30 machines is a lot <CanoeBerry> OK, who will mentor? <CanoeBerry> As we qualify their final true needs.. <isforinsects> I'm still reading however <isforinsects> I would be willing to mentor <CanoeBerry> Looking good, let's work on this together and move onto Project #2 now.. <CanoeBerry> Thanks isforinsects -- please take the ticket.


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<CanoeBerry> Now Project #2: <CanoeBerry> 2. Preventing Diabetes Among Economically Disadvantaged New Mom's with Prediabetes [Saint Louis Univ, MO, USA] <CanoeBerry> http://rt.laptop.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=38460 <CanoeBerry> Requests 250 XO's for 18-24mos <sverma> wow! <CanoeBerry> Project objectives: (very long paste coming, beware!!!) <CanoeBerry> The primary objective of this application is to investigate the effects of <CanoeBerry> an ehealth program targeted at new moms' at-risk of developing diabetes <CanoeBerry> mellitus (DM). The intervention will adapt key aspects of the seminal <CanoeBerry> Diabetes Prevention Project (DPP) lifestyle protocol, including 1) clearly <CanoeBerry> defined weight loss and physical activity goals; 2) lifestyle coaches; 3) <CanoeBerry> Intensive ongoing curriculum (initial 16 session core curriculum to be <CanoeBerry> completed within the first 24 weeks after randomization); 4) <CanoeBerry> individualization through a "toolbox" of adherence strategies; 5) Materials <CanoeBerry> and strategies that address the needs of a diverse population of low-income <CanoeBerry> new mothers; and 6) an extensive local and national network of training, <CanoeBerry> feedback, and clinical support for the participants into a lifestyle <CanoeBerry> intervention via email (i.e., ALIVE! Program). The ALIVE program has been <CanoeBerry> shown to significantly improve self efficacy regarding change in diet as <CanoeBerry> well as significant forward movement regarding readiness for change. The <CanoeBerry> intervention draws from the theory of stages of motivational readiness for <CanoeBerry> change for physical activity behavior and will take into account the <CanoeBerry> specific social, cultural, economic, and physical environmental challenges <CanoeBerry> faced by women of diverse socioeconomic and ethnic backgrounds. The first <CanoeBerry> objective is to create the online protocol for at-risk new moms, to be <CanoeBerry> accomplished by incorporating a transdisciplinary research team, bridging <CanoeBerry> across the fields of education, psychology, medicine, nursing, and maternal <CanoeBerry> and child health, linking biological and non-biological (i.e., social) <CanoeBerry> determinants. The second objective, and overarching aim of this proposal is <CanoeBerry> to test the effect of an ehealth program on encouraging women to achieve a <CanoeBerry> weight loss goal of 7% of their initial body weight and 150 minutes of <CanoeBerry> moderate physical activity (similar in intensity to brisk walking). The <CanoeBerry> third objective of this proposal is to consider links between diabetes risk <CanoeBerry> and social determinants of health, by exploring the modifying effects of <CanoeBerry> demographic characteristics (i.e., race/ethnicity, age, education, <CanoeBerry> urban/rural, and poverty status) on a number of variables including patient <CanoeBerry> knowledge of diabetes risk, stage-of-change, stress, empowerment, and <CanoeBerry> medical mistrust, to identify important differences between the two groups. <CanoeBerry> This application is innovative in being the first, to our knowledge, to test <CanoeBerry> an ehealth intervention designed to prevent DM among at-risk, low-income new <CanoeBerry> moms. The intervention protocols will be designed for easy translation into <CanoeBerry> clinical practice, to foster generalization should they be found to be <CanoeBerry> effective.

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<isforinsects> They really don't show that they know anything about the XO laptop <CanoeBerry> Please read the gull proposal here: http://rt.laptop.org/Ticket/Attachment/562457/311269/ <CanoeBerry> *full <sverma> I don't see any alignment with anything OLPC does...they just need 250 laptops.

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<isforinsects> for two years <isforinsects> and don't really have any plan in place for scaling <isforinsects> they seem like they are going to create this curriculum and materials for just this group <isforinsects> And are producing content for a very western-centric audience <CanoeBerry> (Besides the obvious: OLPC has never approved CP projects with this many laptops..) <sj||> +1 on the amy smith/medical proj : aiming to produce a reusable peripheral <CanoeBerry> But I have someone I can ask about this project, do we have any mentoring volunteers to see if this diabetes project might be refocused / shrunk? <sverma> We have a fledgling project in Hyderabad, India which is looking to do some edu materials about diabetes...the problem there is we don't have XOs. I can check some more on that end and get back to you <sj||> for #2 : come on <sj||> we're peddling sugar to children with no prior exposure to it <sj||> if we're not planning ahead for prediabetic mothers, we may be doing more harm than good <sverma> sugar...diabetes...hmmm <sverma> The delivery of materials is XO based, but can the material be developed without XOs? <CanoeBerry> Who will help me mentor #2? <isforinsects> sverma: It sounds like the would almost be better off with printed materials <isforinsects> Other than the XO-as-reward/interest system, I don't see theneed <sverma> i agree with isforinsects <sj||> a mentor should ind out if they've tried using an XO, and know how they would deliver materials / followup : through a browser? <sverma> if materials are developed collaboratively and are reuasble under a CC type license, then it makes some sense <sj||> sverma: agreed in part <sj||> we still couldn't provide this quantity; would have to make an exception to let them buy under their grant <CanoeBerry> OK. let's move on. I will mentor, providing the above feedback to the applicant and appreciate if others on the way.. <sj||> that might not happen. but if they're interested in collab and reusable, worth sending them 1 to make sure they've been thinking with full knowledge of what it would be like <CanoeBerry> Moving onto Project #3, ok? <CanoeBerry> Last call for Project #2 constructive criticism? <CanoeBerry> Going once.. <CanoeBerry> Going twice.. <CanoeBerry> Done.


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<CanoeBerry> 3. OpenOffice.org -- EducOO.org [Tabasco, Mexico] <CanoeBerry> http://rt.laptop.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=38476 <CanoeBerry> http://education.openoffice.org <CanoeBerry> http://www.educoo.org <CanoeBerry> Requests 1 XO for 8 months <CanoeBerry> Project Objectives: <CanoeBerry> Project consist in developing a custom version of OpenOffice.org <CanoeBerry> targeted for Kids that can run on the XO. Targeted builds will need to <CanoeBerry> be tested on XO to optimize the performance for the XO architecture. <isforinsects> http://olpc-france.org/blog/?p=259 <isforinsects> OOo4Kids (OpenOffice for Kids) on the XO <sverma> looks great! <CanoeBerry> "simplify the design of the User <CanoeBerry> Interface so the Kids will understand. Create iconography and <CanoeBerry> necessary dialogs and-or sounds to make it easy on the children" <isforinsects> I like it <isforinsects> OOo needs help, and I think that this project could come up with a reasonable project <isforinsects> Hernan is involved/interested it seems <CanoeBerry> Other votes? <CanoeBerry> Anybody follow Open Office with all its challenges and want to mentor?

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<CanoeBerry> Need a mentor for EducOO / Project #3 :) Let me know now/later if you can help! <CanoeBerry> Moving onto #4, OK?


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<CanoeBerry> Intelligent Predictor Application for XO (Malaysia and Indonesia) <CanoeBerry> http://rt.laptop.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=38554 <CanoeBerry> Project #4: Requests 2 XO's for 14 months <CanoeBerry> Project Objectives: <CanoeBerry> - XO as the medium for the application <CanoeBerry> - To test and show the capability of XO in running AI(Artificial Intelligence) program. <CanoeBerry> - To stimulate the learning process for children who use XO. <CanoeBerry> - Help children to think logically <CanoeBerry> - To assist any users of the application helping them to make a decision based on the model of knowledge they entered into the application <isforinsects> <---suspect

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<sverma> bayes is kinda fun <isforinsects> Yeah... if it were produced, it would be *kinda* neat for high level kids if it came with a large collection of info about it <CanoeBerry> benbas's Malaysian library isn't live yet.. http://rt.laptop.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=35393 <CanoeBerry> Unless Anil's made progress in-person travelling thru Asia as we speak ;) <caroline> how do I get an account on rt? <isforinsects> If the project had some understanding of all of the steps required to understand naive bayes, it could be a fun project <CanoeBerry> caroline: call me and i can train you -- takes about 20 min. <CanoeBerry> caroline: or we can do it over IRC, after this meeting.. <CanoeBerry> verdict on #4 here? <CanoeBerry> Endorsments? Denials? Should we ask him about emulation eg. http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Emulating_the_XO <CanoeBerry> Let's wrap up #4 plz :) <sverma> sorry...phone call <CanoeBerry> OK, if this developer's willilng to package his app and make it learning-friendly, it might have hope, but the application's a bit short here. <CanoeBerry> Let's reconsider this one -- with a mentor asking the applicant for more details. <CanoeBerry> Moving onto #5?


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<CanoeBerry> 5. Rural Design Collective 2009 Summer Mentoring Program <CanoeBerry> http://rt.laptop.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=38641 <CanoeBerry> Already bought 6 XO's. Requests 5 XO's for 6 months..

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<CanoeBerry> Project objectives: <CanoeBerry> (long, beware..!) <CanoeBerry> The Rural Design Collective is a remote mentoring program with a <CanoeBerry> local focus designed to help motivated, creative people begin an <CanoeBerry> independent career on the Internet. The mentoring program is <CanoeBerry> structured on a three month time-frame where mentorees are matched to <CanoeBerry> projects that suit their creative skills. The mentorees <CanoeBerry> learn-as-they-earn, working on real projects that help their <CanoeBerry> community or establish their credibility as a professional. They <CanoeBerry> complete the three months with a real project and professional client <CanoeBerry> relationships. <CanoeBerry> The 2009 RDC Mentoring Program centers around the public domain and <CanoeBerry> books. As part of this, the RDC will be outfitting six (6) XO laptops <CanoeBerry> that were recently donated by the RDC and distributed to area schools <CanoeBerry> and libraries with a collection of books from the Internet Archive <CanoeBerry> Childrens Library (IACL). The mentorees will partner with a <CanoeBerry> representative from the participating organizations to outfit the XO <CanoeBerry> to their specifications and train them on the device. We will share <CanoeBerry> what we learn by publishing our work on the web and installing the <CanoeBerry> same bundles on laptops donated by the OLPC through the Contributors <CanoeBerry> Program. <CanoeBerry> "Why is this project needed? <CanoeBerry> It helps advance the concept of collections for the XO and <CanoeBerry> broadens the range of available material." <CanoeBerry> REACTIONS? :) <sverma> I like the open library involvement <sverma> also having acquired XOs via G1G1 shows commitment <CanoeBerry> Applicant neglected to include an address, but this will be forgiven if they get it together later :)

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<CanoeBerry> Strong team apparently, w/ Internet Archive etc. <CanoeBerry> Project URL: http://ruraldesigncollective.org <sverma> +1 <CanoeBerry> Intriguing.. <isforinsects> I'm confused <isforinsects> There seem to be two projects <isforinsects> "The Rural Design Collective is a remote mentoring program with a <isforinsects> local focus designed to help motivated, creative people begin an <isforinsects> independent career on the Internet." <isforinsects> "As part of this, the RDC will be outfitting six (6) XO laptops <isforinsects> that were recently donated by the RDC and distributed to area schools <isforinsects> and libraries with a collection of books from the Internet Archive <isforinsects> Childrens Library (IACL)." <isforinsects> I don't see how that follows <isforinsects> Do we know anyone else in Oregon who can turn them into a Lending Library afterwards? <caroline> they seem like a good group but I don't get exactly what they are going to do. <CanoeBerry> let me talk to SJ about this gang -- he clearly knows some/all of them. <isforinsects> I *think* I may know 'webchick" <isforinsects> lemme look <CanoeBerry> tentative interest? <caroline> there is a lead user teacher in Orgeon I wonder if they are already connected <CanoeBerry> Shall we give them partial approval, pending more clarification? <sverma> yes <CanoeBerry> Great. <CanoeBerry> plz help me/SJ/is4 mentor if you can. <CanoeBerry> Let's move onto #6. <isforinsects> Yeah, ping me on mentoring, I'm interested. <sverma> ok


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<CanoeBerry> San Francisco State University Lending Library [USA] <CanoeBerry> http://rt.laptop.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=38783 <caroline> hmm 6 hours from the teacher in OR <isforinsects> Yay! <CanoeBerry> Requests 10 XO's for 6 months. <CanoeBerry> Project Objectives: <CanoeBerry> The project would allow students <CanoeBerry> the opportunity to use their diverse backgrounds and experience to develop <CanoeBerry> hardware and software for the XO. Students <CanoeBerry> from many of the departments, such as Engineering, Computer Science, History <CanoeBerry> and Art could be inspired to contribute to OLPC’s goals once they are familiar <CanoeBerry> with the project. Open source software <CanoeBerry> would be used to track lending of the laptops, as well the inspiring ideas <CanoeBerry> students may have.

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<CanoeBerry> sverma: when will your site be live?

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<CanoeBerry> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/SFSU_Lending_Library <CanoeBerry> Oops, lost him.

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<CanoeBerry> RalPaes or sverma: what's your timeline for going live? <CanoeBerry> With site and other outreach/execution? <sverma> you mean the wiki site? <sverma> couple of clarifications: The lending library can start as early as mid-May <CanoeBerry> wiki site, yeah <sverma> Also, this proposal is for SFSU and not OLPC-SF <CanoeBerry> Go it. <CanoeBerry> What policies are likely? <CanoeBerry> To further (a) circulation and (b) laptops returning "on schedule" <sverma> I just put a few lines on http://wiki.laptop.org/go/SFSU_Lending_Library <sverma> Our Academic Technology unit will take over logistics <sverma> they maintain a database, loaning, etc. <CanoeBerry> Will there be a recommended lease/loan time etc? <sverma> We are working with (1) Elementary Edu program and (2) Child Psych on campus <sverma> recommended tiem is usually in multiple of weeks. If someone requests the equipment while its checked out, the person gets a reminder <CanoeBerry> Is it decided if the general public can check out XO's, if they qualify? <sverma> tiem=time <sverma> general public at SFSU can...general public at large need a "sponsor" <sverma> we are looking to do another proposal via OLPC-SF for the general public option <CanoeBerry> Doesn't SFSU believe in open ;) <sverma> someone else (not here today) will champion that effort <CanoeBerry> OK. <sverma> yes, we do. We don't have a boundary/fence :-) <sverma> the real problem is accountability <CanoeBerry> Watch those SF Hippies.. <sverma> so, as long as you are on the SFSU system, they'll be ok <CanoeBerry> Is 10 XO's reasonable? <sverma> you mean < 10 or > 10? <CanoeBerry> Either way. And is there rationale behind the 6 months loan, instead of longer? <sverma> we are a large campus, but we also wanted to stay with CP guidelines <CanoeBerry> How many people at SFSU? <sverma> 30,000+ <CanoeBerry> Woah <sverma> + faculty + staff <sverma> we have 54000 e-mail accounts <CanoeBerry> Can we have some peer feedback please? <sverma> '6 month loan was tro see how things go until the end of the year <CanoeBerry> isforinsects says: +1 <sverma> if it doesn't work, we wouldn'twant to waste XOs <sverma> we could use 2 dozen, if that works for CP <sverma> that was the original thinking <RalPaes> Imagine the potential! <CanoeBerry> sverma: your endorsement counts, as i now understand this is not your own proposal. <CanoeBerry> other votes of confidence? <CanoeBerry> I suggest we stick with 10 XO's for now. <sverma> another side to this proposal is that the team that is working on the information design proposal (Ralston et al) are following the work flow both outside and inside RT <CanoeBerry> And double the number from 10 to 20 later this year if the project (library) proves itself. <sverma> ok <CanoeBerry> RalPaes: are you involved with organizing this SFSU library? <RalPaes> That sounds like a plan. <CanoeBerry> I will help mentor, regardless. <CanoeBerry> ** Let's call it a day, ok? ** <sverma> I'm the resident mentor on this one <CanoeBerry> sverma: Great, can you take this ticket an co-mentor with me? <CanoeBerry> http://rt.laptop.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=38783 <CanoeBerry> ** Thanks all for your help! ** <sverma> sure <RalPaes> Thanks. <CanoeBerry> Minutes will be posted on each ticket as well as in full here later: <CanoeBerry> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Contributors_program/meetings

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<CanoeBerry> RalPaes: ring or ping anytime for RT access etc!

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