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Below is a thread on the i.a.e.p@suagrlabs.org about creating a process to start moving the sugar developer content from w.l.o to w.s.o. After including his suggestions, the process at OLPC:Transwiki#SugarLabs was formed.

On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 5:03 PM, David Farning <dfarning@gmail.com> wrote:

 On Wed, 2008-06-04 at 22:23 +0200, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote:
   > > On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 10:16 PM, David Farning <dfarning@gmail.com> wrote:
   > > I would like to begin the 'big move' by first moving/copying the olpc
   > > information regarding theses topics to Sugar Labs. Is this something
   > > that I should talk to Sj about? or would someone who has been involved
   > > with OLPC and Sugar Labs prefer to start that conversation?
   > Can you explain more in detail what you would like to move where?
 * SugarModule
 * SugarBaseModule
 * SugarDatastoreModule
 * SugarPresenceServiceModule
 * SugarToolkitModule
 * SugarArtworkModule
 1.  I would like to go through the OLPC wiki page by page looking for
 material related to developing the 6 modules listed above.  (working
 with around 5 pages per batch)
 2.  Post a 'wiki -move request' to iaep and a appropriate communication
 channel at OLPC.

The appropriate channel is the OLPC wiki itself. Transwiki'ed pages should copy their edit history to the new site. The OLPC wiki could use a new template for suggesting a page for a transwiki move -- if it's no longer needed on the OLPC wiki, it can be replaced by a soft redirect.

 3.  After receiving approval, export pages from wiki.olpc this will
 leave original contents at olpc.

You don't need approval to export pages from the wiki. Both wikis use an attribution license, which makes reuse pretty straightforward.

 4.  Tag pages on OLPC as "Maintained at Sugar Labs" as of \data\ with
 link to Sugar Labs page

Please only do this when it's clear that there is just one page being maintained and updated -- then add more than a tag; a full-page template that changes the background of the mirror page, saying "please go /here/ to update" is clearest. For an exapmle, see the Help: pages on any wikipedia, which point to meta.wikimedia.org for the latest version.

 5.  Import pages into correct place on wiki.sl heirarchy.
 6.  sleep several days
 7.  restart loop
 /end loop/

You might want to measure out your sleep more carefully.

 /for each loop/
 1. After brief waiting period, (1 week?) update links to original olpc
 pages with an interwiki link to new location at Sugar Labs.

A proper interwiki map can help make sugar:TITLE and olpc:TITLE do the right thing.

 2.  After a second brief wait, (1 more week) replace original contents
 at olpc with a redirect to new location.

I don't think this is the right thing to do -- for most of the pages I can imagine in the above modules, the olpc page should include a short description and a link to details; at worst a number of specific subpages can be merged into a higher-level page, but each module will likely still want a couple pages @ olpc with a different lens into the information @ slwiki.

 3.  Request deletion of original page at olpc.

If the original page was at all interesting, it's better to leave a soft redirect. deleted pages break links on the wider web, which we don't want to do.

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