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TOPIC: http://laptop.org/en/participate/change-the-world.shtml


(add names below if i missed u!! enhance minutes if I missed anything!!)


employees/contractors:
employees/contractors:
RF Boston Robert Fadel
RF Boston Robert Fadel, VP of International
DT Boston Darah Tappitake
Operations
KQ Boston Kim Quirk
DT Boston Darah Tappitake, Managing Give Many /
RC Boston Reuben Carron (SP?)
Change the World
SJ Boston SJ Klein
KQ Boston Kim Quirk, VP of Support
FH Boston Frances Hopkins
RC Boston Reuben Caron, Country Support Engineer
AH Boston/Europe Adam holt
SJ Boston SJ Klein, Head of Community/Content
FH Boston Frances Hopkins, Support Specialist
AH Boston/Europe Adam Holt, Community Support Manager
(organizer of mtg, wrote minutes below)


volunteers:
volunteers:
SC North of Boston Sandy Culver
SC North of Boston Sandy Culver
YP Austin/Bolivia Yama Ploskonka
YP Austin/Bolivia Yama Ploskonka
PW Sydney area, Australia Pai Waugh
PW Sydney area, Australia Pia Waugh
DB Boston/Nigeria Daniel Bennett
DB Boston/Nigeria Daniel Bennett
AD Silicon Valley Anil Daswani
AD Silicon Valley Anil Daswani
CB Los Angeles Caryl Bigenho
CB Los Angeles Caryl Bigenho
AK Houston Aaron Konstam
AK San Antonio Aaron Konstam




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How to "Change the World"? Designing SUPPORTABLE G100/G1000 Deployments
How to "Change the World"? Designing SUPPORTABLE G100/G1000 Deployments


RF: We (OLPC) are broadening GM/CTW seeking the best possible "supportable" program (for schools/groups buying 100+ XO's). Ongoing Support Gang help most appreciated!
RF: We (OLPC) are broadening GM/CTW (Give Many/Change the World)
seeking the best possible "supportable" program (for schools/groups
SC: What lessons can we learn from the past 6 months of Give Many prospects emailing givemany@laptop.org? Yes CTW's a newer program beyond Give Many: but can we learn from GM examples in SC, NYC, New Orleans, be they failures or successes?
buying 100+ XO's). Ongoing http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Support_Gang help
RF: Very reasonable. Remember too (if you'll excuse the metaphor) a large fish tank can be much easier to manage than a small one, as a large fishtank forgives mistakes without killing fish, while a small one may not. But Agreed: we can/should go back and look at small deployments (EG. 100 laptops), examining which qualify as earnest "supportable OLPC programs" -- versus more unsustainable handouts?
most appreciated!
SC: What lessons can we learn from the past 6 months of Give Many
prospects emailing givemany@laptop.org? Yes CTW's a newer program beyond
Give Many: but can we learn from GM examples in S. Carolina, NYC, New
Orleans, be they failures or successes?
RF: Very reasonable. Remember too (if you'll excuse the metaphor)
a large fish tank can be much easier to manage than a small one, as a
large fishtank forgives mistakes without killing fish, while a small one
may not. But Agreed: we can/should go back and look at small deployments
(EG. 100 laptops), examining which qualify as earnest "supportable OLPC
programs" -- versus more unsustainable handouts?




100+ laptop deployments: How to TRACK SUCCESS STORIES
100+ laptop deployments: How to TRACK SUCCESS STORIES


YP: How do you know smaller deployments aren't succeeding as well as larger deployments?
YP: How do you know smaller deployments aren't succeeding as well as
larger deployments?
RF: The feedback conduit (2-way) is missing around small deployments -- whereas OLPC has better communication with larger deployments.
RF: The feedback conduit (2-way) is missing around small deployments --
whereas OLPC has better communication with larger deployments.
YP: Sounds inconclusive!
YP: Sounds inconclusive!
RF: Now with support more built-in to G100 (basic repair kit) & G1000 (includes on-the-ground OLPC visit), more fruitful reportage will flow.
RF: Now with support more built-in to G100 (basic repair kit) & G1000
(includes on-the-ground OLPC visit), more fruitful reportage will flow.
DT: We want a Wiki page where schools document their own success, even if OLPC cannot resource an editor to promote this, we can certainly direct all G100 participants to voluntarily participate.
DT: We want a Wiki page where schools document their own success
YP: Can we get a public list of all CTW places, laptop counts, and dates? He had trouble getting access to basic information in South America, even after very patiently talking with deployments' teachers, we can do better!
(http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Change_the_World_stories) even if OLPC cannot
DT: Will need to get back to you. Buyers are not currently required to go public. For now we can push CTW deployments to post success stories on a Wiki page open to all.
resource an editor to promote this, we can certainly direct all G100
YP: OK, but if there are 3 deployments in Ecuador, they need to be able to find each other.
participants to voluntarily participate.
SJ&AH: Can we insert new questions into the CTW sales / post-sales process to ensure interested such schools don't fall thru the cracks?
YP: Can we get a public list of all CTW places, laptop counts, and dates?
PW: Recommendation: plz don't re-invent the wheel! Instead expand upon http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Deployments transcluding to/from other pages if nec, to keep things fresh avoiding inflationary/festering wiki swamplands.
He had trouble getting access to basic information in South America, even
after very patiently talking with deployments' teachers, we can do better!
DT: Will need to get back to you. Buyers are not currently required to
go public. For now we can push CTW deployments to post success stories
on a Wiki page open to all.
YP: OK, but if there are 3 deployments in Ecuador, they need to be able
to find each other.
SJ&AH: Can we insert new questions into the CTW sales / post-sales
process to ensure interested such schools don't fall thru the cracks?
PW: Recommendation: please don't re-invent the wheel! Instead expand upon
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Deployments transcluding to/from other pages if
nec, to keep things fresh avoiding inflationary/festering wiki swamplands.




Create a Weekly/Collaborative DISCUSSION SPACE
Create a Weekly/Collaborative DISCUSSION SPACE


YP: OLPC needs to consider Internet-based support which scale better across 10-laptop to 10,000-laptop deployments. Who is the target?
YP: OLPC needs to consider Internet-based support which scales better
across 10-laptop to 10,000-laptop deployments. Who is our target?
PW: Inter-deployment communications are what is most missing. PW will host weekly irc meetings, at well-announced hour(s), to change this, since she believes physical meetings are insufficient. Pai will create a Direct web interface into this irc channel so that every net-connected teacher/deployer worldwide can participate, without require irc expertise.
PW: Inter-deployment communications are what is most missing. PW will
RF: Yes, let's consider. We need online portal/commons regardless of what program/size. Let's create this collab/participative environment.
host weekly IRC meetings, at well-announced hour(s), to change this,
PW: Can't find docs. Wants deployments docs accessible -- even kids will occasionally use!
since she believes physical meetings are insufficient. Pia will create
RF: Agrees: Deployment ppl on ground not always possible. But neither is "flattening" of all offerings sensible, as deployments face diff issues at diff scales (eg. 100 laptops vs. 10,000 laptops).
a Direct web interface into this IRC channel so that every net-connected
RF&DT: DT apologizes for being later and will meet us in future. DT similarly offers to try to find a way to update us (Support Gang) weekly.
teacher/deployer worldwide can participate, without require IRC expertise.
RF: Yes, let's consider. We need online portal/commons regardless of
what program/size. Let's create this collab/participative environment.
PW: Can't find docs. Wants deployment docs accessible -- even kids will
occasionally use!
RF: Agrees: Deployment people on ground not always possible. But neither
is "flattening" of all offerings sensible, as deployments face diff
issues at diff scales (eg. 100 laptops vs. 10,000 laptops).
RF&DT: DT apologizes for being late and will meet us in future.
DT similarly offers to try to find a way to update us (Support Gang)
weekly.




New LEARNING MATERIALS for deployers & kids
New LEARNING MATERIALS for Deployers & Kids


CB: Can we translate & republish TelMex's great teacher-training etc materials currently linked of of [[OLPC Mexico]] ?
CB: Can we translate & republish TelMex's great teacher-training etc
materials currently linked off of http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Mexico ?
YP: Yes! But UY, PE & Nepal have great existing materials we also need to proliferate.
YP: Yes! But UY, PE & Nepal have great existing materials we also need
SJ: WikiEducator can help here -- it's all about translators & educators doing exactly that.
to proliferate.
CB&AK: Kids themselves need better math programs, as there's nothing today.
SJ: http://WikiEducator.org can help here -- it's all about translators &
PW: Not true! try GCompris which offers a dozen math apps!
educators doing exactly that.
YP: True. But these programs will only keep your attention for a couple weeks.
CB&AK: Kids themselves need better math programs, as there's nothing
DT: New CTW team (incl Mel, Reuben, Frances etc) working towards 2 new docs:
today.
1. Planning Guide (local support, community stories, power, connectivity etc)
PW: Not true! Try GCompris which offers a dozen math apps!
2. CTW Tech Manual (a more concise [[Deployment guide]] focusing on new issues around smaller deployments, eg. 100 XO laptops.
YP: True. But these programs will only keep your attention for a
PW: Let's not re-invent the wheel. Please build upon existing docs like [[Deployment guide]] and [[Support FAQ]] wherever possible. Transclude or use Semantic Media Wiki wherever necessary to avoid duplication.
couple weeks.
DT: Modularization maybe, but tone matters. Will try for Christmas timeframe deadline, to deliver above 2 guides?
DT: New CTW team (incl Mel, Reuben, Frances etc) working towards 2
AH: Great: those with most experience answering G1/G100/G10000 questions *must* share out their best answers to the most Freq Asked Q's -- regardless of whether they are volunteers or employees!!! Start here: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Change_the_world
new docs:
1. Planning Guide (local support, community stories, power,
connectivity etc)
2. CTW Tech Manual (a more concise [[Deployment guide]] focusing on
new issues around smaller deployments, eg. 100 XO laptops.
PW: Let's not re-invent the wheel. Please build upon existing docs like
[[Deployment guide]] and [[Support FAQ]] wherever possible. Transclude or
use Semantic Media Wiki wherever necessary to avoid duplication.
DT: Modularization maybe, but tone matters. Will try for Christmas
timeframe deadline, to deliver above 2 guides?
AH: Great: those with most experience answering G1/G100/G10000 questions
*must* share out their best answers to the most Freq Asked Q's --
regardless of whether they are volunteers or employees!!! Start here:
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Change_the_World




Why do desperately poor countries like Bolivia pay FULL PRICE ($259) just like rich G8 countries?
Why do desperately poor countries like Bolivia pay FULL PRICE ($259)
just like rich G8 countries?


YB: Why aren't poor landlocked countries given discounted pricing ($219) like the UN's 50 LDC's (Least Developed Countries).
YB: Why aren't poor landlocked countries given discounted pricing ($219)
like the UN's 50 LDC's (Least Developed Countries).
CB: Concurs: Bolivia is the 2nd poorest country in South and North America, above only Haiti. Bolivia should not have to pay as much as rich countries like Japan.
CB: Concurs: Bolivia is the 2nd poorest country in South and North
RF: All proposals will be considered. Please understand that the UN's separate lists of (poorer?) Islands nations and (poorer?) Landlocked nations overlap somewhat with their list of 50 LDC's. OLPC is not excluding island and landlocked nations from consideration. But currently OLPC made a choice to offer discounted pricing to only the 50 UN-designated LDC's. This UN's list will no doubt change annually.
America, above only Haiti. Bolivia should not have to pay as much as
SJ: Let's continue this discussion on a public web page, so that a clear petition process is available, in case future changes are possible.
rich countries like Japan.
RF: All proposals will be considered. Please understand that the UN's
separate lists of (poorer?) Islands nations and (poorer?) Landlocked
nations overlap somewhat with their list of 50 LDC's. OLPC is
not excluding island and landlocked nations from consideration.
But currently OLPC made a choice to offer discounted pricing to only
the 50 UN-designated LDC's. This UN's list will no doubt change annually.
SJ: Let's continue this discussion on a public web page, so that a clear
petition process is available, in case future changes are possible.




Fostering & CONVERTING Interested Prospects into Actual Rollouts
Fostering & CONVERTING Interested Prospects into Actual Rollouts


RF: Thanks to the Support Gang for helping continue to cultivate real leads.
RF: Thanks to the http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Support_Gang for helping
continue to cultivate real leads.
AH: Let's make outreach happen -- which prospects seem most real given DT's deep experience supervising givemany@laptop.org over most of 2008?
AH: Let's make outreach happen -- which prospects seem most real given
DT: 80% are generally US-based benefactors/philanthropists (charities, faith-based, school groups) funding small deployments literally around the world. European foundations & charitable goups too. Etc.
DT's deep experience supervising givemany@laptop.org over most of 2008?
SJ: Schools mentioned in passing aren't always serious,even while we continue to engage their help@laptop.org tech/informational support questions.
DT: 80% are generally US-based benefactors/philanthropists (charities,
faith-based, school groups) funding small deployments literally around
the world. European foundations & charitable goups too. Etc.
SJ: Schools mentioned in passing aren't always serious, even while we
continue to engage their help@laptop.org tech/informational support
questions.




SERVICE Quality
SERVICE Quality


CB: How long til the public's CTW queries get a response?
CB: How long until the public's CTW queries get a response?
DT: We are trying to works towards a guaranteed 5 business days, with thoroughly vetted responses.
DT: We are trying to works towards a guaranteed 5 business days, with
thoroughly vetted responses.
DB: How can we ensure volunteers don't hold back, continuing to provide the quality handholding we've developed over the past year, converting lukewarm inquiries into hot prospects?
DB: How can we ensure volunteers don't hold back, continuing to provide
SJ: Is it possible G1 queries are getting much faster responses (from volunteers) than G100 reponses (from employees), and if so how can we reprioritize to strengthen engagement with G100 schools etc?
the quality handholding we've developed over the past year, converting
FH: The CTW team is still getting organized and getting up to speed with RT, let's give them a bit of time.
lukewarm inquiries into hot prospects?
AH: Let circle back in a couple weeks to see how this volunteer/employee interface evolves & develops.
SJ: Is it possible G1 queries are getting much faster responses (from
CB: How to respond to donors other questions if their ticket's been moved into the CTW queue, yet Tech Support/informational questions remains? If we are AdminCC's on the ticket, are we removed from the conversation?
volunteers) than G100 reponses (from employees), and if so how can we
AH: Hopefully not, but so far unclear. For now, clone the ticket by cutting & pasting if a tech support or general informational issue needs addresses. It just takes a couple clicks to create & paste into a new ticket. Later SJ & I (among others!) hope to finally upgrade RT, possibly even in December?! This stands to streamline a lot!
reprioritize to strengthen engagement with G100 schools etc?
YP&AH: Reuse & enhance "RTFM's" with savvier tools, similar to the Austin company that hosted August's doc sprint. What "answer tree" can we consider? The best librarians silently foster self-service and get out of the way :)
FH: The CTW team is still getting organized and getting up to speed with
SC: Yes, use RT's "Simple Search" to better uncover past issues already answered -- train people to discover the power of RT!
RT, let's give them a bit of time.
AH: Let circle back in a couple weeks to see how this volunteer/employee
interface evolves & develops.
CB: How to respond to donors' other questions if their ticket's been moved
into the CTW queue, yet Tech Support/informational questions remains?
If we are AdminCC's on the ticket, are we removed from the conversation?
AH: Hopefully not, but so far unclear. For now, clone the ticket by
cutting & pasting if a tech support or general informational issue
needs addressing. It just takes a couple clicks to create & paste into
a new ticket. Later SJ & I (among others!) hope to finally upgrade RT,
possibly even in December?! This stands to streamline a lot!
YP&AH: Reuse & enhance "RTFM's" with savvier tools, similar to the
Austin company that hosted August's doc sprint. What "answer tree" can
we consider? The best librarians silently foster self-service and get
out of the way :)
SC: Yes, use RT's "Simple Search" to better uncover past issues already
answered -- train people to discover the power of RT!
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Latest revision as of 01:24, 1 January 2010


TOPIC: http://laptop.org/en/participate/change-the-world.shtml


(add names below if i missed u!! enhance minutes if I missed anything!!)

employees/contractors:
        RF Boston                  Robert Fadel, VP of International
                                   Operations
        DT Boston                  Darah Tappitake, Managing Give Many /
                                   Change the World
        KQ Boston                  Kim Quirk, VP of Support
        RC Boston                  Reuben Caron, Country Support Engineer
        SJ Boston                  SJ Klein, Head of Community/Content
        FH Boston                  Frances Hopkins, Support Specialist
        AH Boston/Europe           Adam Holt, Community Support Manager
                                   (organizer of mtg, wrote minutes below)

volunteers:
        SC North of Boston         Sandy Culver
        YP Austin/Bolivia          Yama Ploskonka
        PW Sydney area, Australia  Pia Waugh
        DB Boston/Nigeria          Daniel Bennett
        AD Silicon Valley          Anil Daswani
        CB Los Angeles             Caryl Bigenho
        AK San Antonio             Aaron Konstam



How to "Change the World"?  Designing SUPPORTABLE G100/G1000 Deployments

RF: We (OLPC) are broadening GM/CTW (Give Many/Change the World)
seeking the best possible "supportable" program (for schools/groups
buying 100+ XO's).  Ongoing http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Support_Gang help
most appreciated!
SC: What lessons can we learn from the past 6 months of Give Many
prospects emailing givemany@laptop.org?  Yes CTW's a newer program beyond
Give Many: but can we learn from GM examples in S. Carolina, NYC, New
Orleans, be they failures or successes?
RF: Very reasonable. Remember too (if you'll excuse the metaphor)
a large fish tank can be much easier to manage than a small one, as a
large fishtank forgives mistakes without killing fish, while a small one
may not.  But Agreed: we can/should go back and look at small deployments
(EG. 100 laptops), examining which qualify as earnest "supportable OLPC
programs" -- versus more unsustainable handouts?


100+ laptop deployments: How to TRACK SUCCESS STORIES

YP: How do you know smaller deployments aren't succeeding as well as
larger deployments?
RF: The feedback conduit (2-way) is missing around small deployments --
whereas OLPC has better communication with larger deployments.
YP: Sounds inconclusive!
RF: Now with support more built-in to G100 (basic repair kit) & G1000
(includes on-the-ground OLPC visit), more fruitful reportage will flow.
DT: We want a Wiki page where schools document their own success
(http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Change_the_World_stories) even if OLPC cannot
resource an editor to promote this, we can certainly direct all G100
participants to voluntarily participate.
YP: Can we get a public list of all CTW places, laptop counts, and dates?
He had trouble getting access to basic information in South America, even
after very patiently talking with deployments' teachers, we can do better!
DT: Will need to get back to you.  Buyers are not currently required to
go public.  For now we can push CTW deployments to post success stories
on a Wiki page open to all.
YP: OK, but if there are 3 deployments in Ecuador, they need to be able
to find each other.
SJ&AH: Can we insert new questions into the CTW sales / post-sales
process to ensure interested such schools don't fall thru the cracks?
PW: Recommendation: please don't re-invent the wheel!  Instead expand upon
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Deployments transcluding to/from other pages if
nec, to keep things fresh avoiding inflationary/festering wiki swamplands.


Create a Weekly/Collaborative DISCUSSION SPACE

YP: OLPC needs to consider Internet-based support which scales better
across 10-laptop to 10,000-laptop deployments.	Who is our target?
PW: Inter-deployment communications are what is most missing. PW will
host weekly IRC meetings, at well-announced hour(s), to change this,
since she believes physical meetings are insufficient. Pia will create
a Direct web interface into this IRC channel so that every net-connected
teacher/deployer worldwide can participate, without require IRC expertise.
RF: Yes, let's consider.  We need online portal/commons regardless of
what program/size. Let's create this collab/participative environment.
PW: Can't find docs.  Wants deployment docs accessible -- even kids will
occasionally use!
RF: Agrees: Deployment people on ground not always possible.  But neither
is "flattening" of all offerings sensible, as deployments face diff
issues at diff scales (eg. 100 laptops vs. 10,000 laptops).
RF&DT:	DT apologizes for being late and will meet us in future.
DT similarly offers to try to find a way to update us (Support Gang)
weekly.


New LEARNING MATERIALS for Deployers & Kids

CB: Can we translate & republish TelMex's great teacher-training etc
materials currently linked off of http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Mexico ?
YP: Yes!  But UY, PE & Nepal have great existing materials we also need
to proliferate.
SJ: http://WikiEducator.org can help here -- it's all about translators &
educators doing exactly that.
CB&AK: Kids themselves need better math programs, as there's nothing
today.
PW: Not true!  Try GCompris which offers a dozen math apps!
YP: True.  But these programs will only keep your attention for a
couple weeks.
DT: New CTW team (incl Mel, Reuben, Frances etc) working towards 2
new docs:
    1. Planning Guide (local support, community stories, power,
    connectivity etc)
    2. CTW Tech Manual (a more concise [[Deployment guide]] focusing on
    new issues around smaller deployments, eg. 100 XO laptops.
PW: Let's not re-invent the wheel.  Please build upon existing docs like
[[Deployment guide]] and [[Support FAQ]] wherever possible.  Transclude or
use Semantic Media Wiki wherever necessary to avoid duplication.
DT: Modularization maybe, but tone matters.  Will try for Christmas
timeframe deadline, to deliver above 2 guides?
AH: Great: those with most experience answering G1/G100/G10000 questions
*must* share out their best answers to the most Freq Asked Q's --
regardless of whether they are volunteers or employees!!!  Start here:
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Change_the_World


Why do desperately poor countries like Bolivia pay FULL PRICE ($259)
just like rich G8 countries?

YB: Why aren't poor landlocked countries given discounted pricing ($219)
like the UN's 50 LDC's (Least Developed Countries).
CB: Concurs: Bolivia is the 2nd poorest country in South and North
America, above only Haiti. Bolivia should not have to pay as much as
rich countries like Japan.
RF: All proposals will be considered. Please understand that the UN's
separate lists of (poorer?) Islands nations and (poorer?) Landlocked
nations overlap somewhat with their list of 50 LDC's.  OLPC is
not excluding island and landlocked nations from consideration.
But currently OLPC made a choice to offer discounted pricing to only
the 50 UN-designated LDC's. This UN's list will no doubt change annually.
SJ: Let's continue this discussion on a public web page, so that a clear
petition process is available, in case future changes are possible.


Fostering & CONVERTING Interested Prospects into Actual Rollouts

RF: Thanks to the http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Support_Gang for helping
continue to cultivate real leads.
AH: Let's make outreach happen -- which prospects seem most real given
DT's deep experience supervising givemany@laptop.org over most of 2008?
DT: 80% are generally US-based benefactors/philanthropists (charities,
faith-based, school groups) funding small deployments literally around
the world.  European foundations & charitable goups too.  Etc.
SJ: Schools mentioned in passing aren't always serious, even while we
continue to engage their help@laptop.org tech/informational support
questions.


SERVICE Quality

CB: How long until the public's CTW queries get a response?
DT: We are trying to works towards a guaranteed 5 business days, with
thoroughly vetted responses.
DB: How can we ensure volunteers don't hold back, continuing to provide
the quality handholding we've developed over the past year, converting
lukewarm inquiries into hot prospects?
SJ: Is it possible G1 queries are getting much faster responses (from
volunteers) than G100 reponses (from employees), and if so how can we
reprioritize to strengthen engagement with G100 schools etc?
FH: The CTW team is still getting organized and getting up to speed with
RT, let's give them a bit of time.
AH: Let circle back in a couple weeks to see how this volunteer/employee
interface evolves & develops.
CB: How to respond to donors' other questions if their ticket's been moved
into the CTW queue, yet Tech Support/informational questions remains?
If we are AdminCC's on the ticket, are we removed from the conversation?
AH: Hopefully not, but so far unclear.	For now, clone the ticket by
cutting & pasting if a tech support or general informational issue
needs addressing.  It just takes a couple clicks to create & paste into
a new ticket.  Later SJ & I (among others!) hope to finally upgrade RT,
possibly even in December?!  This stands to streamline a lot!
YP&AH: Reuse & enhance "RTFM's" with savvier tools, similar to the
Austin company that hosted August's doc sprint. What "answer tree" can
we consider?  The best librarians silently foster self-service and get
out of the way :)
SC: Yes, use RT's "Simple Search" to better uncover past issues already
answered -- train people to discover the power of RT!