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[[Image:Alphaomega.jpg|thumb|200px|''"I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end."'' —Jesus (Rev. 22:13)]] |
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For teamwiki account access, please add a request at [[OLPC:Requests for permissions]] (the [[#Teamwiki requests]] section below is now deprecated). Thanks! --[[User:Sj|Sj]] [[User talk:Sj|<font color="fc9" style="font-size:70%">leave me a message</font>]] 14:55, 29 January 2008 (EST) |
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'''Jesus Christ''' is the only Son of [[God]] and prophesied [[Messiah]] who, at the appropriate time, was sent by his [[God the Father|Father]] and became a man to be the [[Propitiation|satisfaction]] for the [[anger of God]] toward us because of our [[sin]], and to reveal to us the nature of God through his human person (1 John 4:10; 2 Corinthians 5:19). |
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Older stuff : [[User talk:Sj/Archive2007|2007]] | [[User talk:Sj/Archive2008|2008]] | ... |
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Jesus' major goal is to reveal his Father to those who will repent and trust in him as their only way of salvation from his Father's anger at them for their sin. Speaking to his disciples, Jesus says, |
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{{cquote|'''John 14:1-15'''<br /><u>Believers will be in his Father's house</u><br />Do not let your heart be troubled; believe in God, believe also in Me. “In My Father’s house are many dwelling places; if it were not so, I would have told you; for I go to prepare a place for you. “If I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself, that where I am, there you may be also. “And you know the way where I am going.” Thomas said to Him, “Lord, we do not know where You are going, how do we know the way?”<br /><u>Jesus himself is the only way people can access his Father and his Father's house</u><br />Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me.<br /><u>If you know Jesus, you know his Father</u><br />“If you had known Me, you would have known My Father also; from now on you know Him, and have seen Him.” Philip said to Him, “Lord, show us the Father, and it is enough for us.” Jesus said to him, “Have I been so long with you, and yet you have not come to know Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; how can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? “Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father is in Me? The words that I say to you I do not speak on My own initiative, but the Father abiding in Me does His works. “Believe Me that I am in the Father and the Father is in Me; otherwise believe because of the works themselves. “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who believes in Me, the works that I do, he will do also; and greater works than these he will do; because I go to the Father. “Whatever you ask in My name, that will I do, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son. “If you ask Me anything in My name, I will do it. “If you love Me, you will keep My commandments.}} |
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Interwiki to [[metaWikipedia:languages|meta-languages]]... [[w:Languages|wikipedia]] |
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By the power of the [[Holy Spirit]], Jesus was conceived in the [[womb]] of the virgin [[Virgin Mary|Mary]], and became man in an event known as the [[Incarnation]], as referred to in Isaiah 7:14. Indeed, the calendar itself reflects this truth, with the traditional calculation of Jesus’ birth marking the first century A.D., that is, "''in the year of Our Lord…''." The [[John the Apostle|apostle John]] wrote in his gospel the following regarding Jesus Christ: "''For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life''" (John 3:16). |
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When he was about thirty, Jesus was baptized by [[John the Baptist]], inaugurating his ministry. Jesus of [[Nazareth]] is the Christ or Messiah, prophesied in the [[Old Testament]] (Greek: Χριστός; [[Aramaic]]: 'משיחא'). Jesus proclaimed that “[t]he time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent, and believe in the Gospel.”<ref>Mark 1:14-15.</ref> As signs of these truths, Jesus performed various miracles. |
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However, not all who heard the Lord believed in him, and, because he “was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God”, some sought to put him to death.<ref>John 5:18.</ref> Jesus was handed over to the Roman governor [[Pontius Pilate]] and crucified. But it was through his redemptive death, as the [[Holy Scripture|scriptures]] had foretold, that Jesus reconciled mankind with God.<ref>Romans 5:10.</ref> And so, on the third day, in a truly historical event, Jesus physically rose from the dead, making possible salvation and eternal life for those who believe in him. Indeed, his very name, ''Yeshua'' (Hebrew 'יהושע') means "[[Salvation]]" and is the concatenated form of ''Yahoshua'', ‘[[YHWH]] is salvation’. After appearing to his disciples on various occasions, Jesus ascended to Heaven, where he acts as our mediator, assuring, by his constant intercession, the permanent outpouring of the Holy Spirit. |
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=== Infancy === |
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The [[Gospels]] tell us that Jesus was born in [[Bethlehem]] of [[Judea]] to a young virgin named [[Virgin Mary|Mary]], by the [[Holy Spirit]]. [[Gospel of Luke|Luke's account]] of the gospel relates that the angel [[Gabriel]] visited Mary in order to announce that she had been chosen to bear the Son of God (Luke 1:26–38). A survey of the [[Roman Empire]] was ordered by [[Augustus|Caesar Augustus]], which caused Mary and [[Joseph (father of Jesus)|Joseph]] to leave Nazareth and go to the home of Joseph's forebears - to the house of [[David|King David]]. After Jesus' birth, they were forced to use a [[manger]] for a crib because the town's inn was full. According to Luke 2:8–20, an [[angel]] spread word of Jesus' birth to several shepherds who came to visit the newborn. Matthew also tells of the "Magi" ([[Zoroastrianism|Zoroastrian]] priests) who brought many gifts to the infant Jesus (among which were [[gold]], [[frankincense]], and [[myrrh]])<ref>Note: This has led to the incorrect assumption that there were only three Magi, whereas the actual number is not given.</ref> after following a star which they believed was an indication that the [[Messiah]], or King of the Jews, had been born. |
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http://dev.laptop.org/~cjb/enwiki/8k-10k-diff and [[w:user:sj/en-g1g1]] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AWikipedia_CD_Selection%2Fadditions_and_updates&diff=212207029&oldid=211039948]. |
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Jesus' early home was the town of [[Nazareth]] in [[Galilee]], and except for an escape to [[Egypt]] in early childhood to avoid [[Herod the Great|Herod's]] massacre of the other male infants, all other events in the Gospels take place in ancient Israel. |
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== Unu Enciklopedio Por Junulo == |
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How much interest has there been in your Esperanto OEPC effort? I'm willing to offer what little help I can, so if you have anything in particular that needs to be done, just say the word. |
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The account of Jesus' parents finding him in the temple impressing the "teachers" with his knowledge of the [[Old Testament|scripture]] is the only detailed event between Jesus' infancy and adult life that is known. |
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{{cquote|'''Luke 2:41–51'''<br />Now His parents went to Jerusalem every year at the Feast of the Passover. And when He became twelve, they went up there according to the custom of the Feast; and as they were returning, after spending the full number of days, the boy Jesus stayed behind in Jerusalem. But His parents were unaware of it, but supposed Him to be in the caravan, and went a day’s journey; and they began looking for Him among their relatives and acquaintances. When they did not find Him, they returned to Jerusalem looking for Him. Then, after three days they found Him in the temple, sitting in the midst of the teachers, both listening to them and asking them questions. And all who heard Him were amazed at His understanding and His answers. When they saw Him, they were astonished; and His mother said to Him, “Son, why have You treated us this way? Behold, Your father and I have been anxiously looking for You.” And He said to them, “Why is it that you were looking for Me? Did you not know that I had to be in My Father’s house?” But they did not understand the statement which He had made to them. And He went down with them and came to Nazareth, and He continued in subjection to them; and His mother treasured all these things in her heart.}} |
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I was also thinking a Project Page on Vikipedio like the one that the English Wikipedia has, would be useful. |
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=== Ministry === |
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--Tomas SATIRLSEY |
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==== Baptism ==== |
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[[Image:Jesus' Baptism.jpg|thumb|right|150px|Jesus' Baptism]] |
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The [[gospel of Mark]] begins with the [[baptism]] of Jesus by [[John the Baptist]], which appears to be the beginning of Jesus' public ministry. Jesus came to the [[Jordan River|River Jordan]], where John was preaching and baptizing people in the crowd. After Jesus had been baptized, and had risen up out of the water, Mark states Jesus 'saw the heavens torn apart and the Holy Spirit descending like a dove on him. And a voice came from [[heaven]], 'You are my Son, the Beloved; with you I am well pleased' (Mark 1:10–11). Luke adds the chronological anchor that John the Baptist had begun preaching in the fifteenth year of [[Tiberius]] Caesar, approximately in 28 AD (Luke 3:1) and that Jesus was thirty years old when he was baptized (Luke 3:23). |
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== hey! let's have coffee.... == |
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'''The meaning of Baptism for Jesus:''' |
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Hi sj -- my friend Delisile mentioned you were working here, and I just haven't gotten around to saying "hello" |
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Jesus insisted over the protests of John that He be baptized at the hands of John. John's protests are natural enough as John's baptism was for those who were sinners, and implied in baptism was the understanding that the baptizer was somehow greater than the one baptized. John believed that he needed to be baptized by Jesus and not the other way around. But Jesus' understanding of His being baptized was two-fold:"Baptism" meant suffering unto death, and it implied that His impending mission was to be in behalf and in place of the real sinners, the humanity for whom He would die. Jesus would later use "baptism" in the first sense when he said to disciples, " Can you be baptized with the baptism which I will undergo?" The Spirit coming down on the Son in the form of a Dove (Yonah = "Jonah" in Hebrew), and the voice of the Father, "This is My Beloved Son" was the Divine empowerment, and authorization for Jesus' mission to come entailing His sacrificial death, three days, not in the belly of the fish, but in the bowels of the earth, and after that, resurrection. As Baptism for Jesus meant, looking forward, His joining sinful humanity to the point of bearing their sins to the death of the cross, so the later New Testament understands, looking backward, that sinners believing in Jesus are also to join Him in His death through the waters of baptism "in the Name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit" - according to the command of the Risen Christ. |
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I'm now the director of the [http://www.cambridgema.gov/peace/ Cambridge Peace Commission], and I'd love to catch up -- and see if there are any areas for collaboration or working together. My schedule is pretty flexible, and I'm happy to come to Kendall.... |
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==== Temptation ==== |
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After this baptism, according to Matthew, Jesus was brought into the desert by God where he fasted for forty days nights. During this period, the [[Satan]] appeared before him and tried three times to tempted Jesus into demonstrating his supernatural powers as a proof of his divine status; each temptation was refused by Jesus, with a scriptural quote from the Book of [[Deuteronomy]]. |
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Peace, |
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Jesus then began to preach. [[Gospel of John|John]] describes three different [[passover]] feasts that Jesus attended, thus implying that his ministry lasted three years. |
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Brian ([[User:Bcorr|Bcorr]] 00:16, 12 September 2008 (UTC)) |
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:Sorry about the delay -- was in Philadelphia for a few days. What about [http://www.dadotea.com/ Dado Tea] on Church St. in Harvard Sq.? I could do it next Monday or Tuesday morning (9/22 or 9/23) or the following week any morning except Wednesday .... [[User:Bcorr|Bcorr]] 14:45, 16 September 2008 (UTC) |
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'''The reason behind the Temptation:''' |
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== Thank you == |
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The Temptation occured just as told in the Gospels. But behind the happening, another message lies revealing the identity of Jesus to a people who would understand it. At the foothill of Mt. Hermon, inbetween the servile Roman enfatuated people of Tiberius to the south west of the Sea of Galilee, and the rabidly nationalistic, anti- Roman Zealots of Gamla to the north east, Jesus asked His disciples who He was. The Messiah, the Son of the Living God, was the answer. And Jesus explained who He was and why he had come in terms that fit their experience - not to rule and throw out the Romans, nor to uphold their ways and laws but rather something on a different plane all together - to give His life settling it on the cross. |
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Thank you for your welcome message. |
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To a later believing people, those who were not Jewish, who He was would be understood in terms fitting to who they were - He had come the Second Adam, to give His life and to provide new life to those who were not Jewish, but also including the Jews, to all the lost and wandering children of Adam. |
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Greetz [[User:JoGnet|JoGnet]] 17:15, 13 September 2008 (UTC) |
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== user rename == |
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In the Temptation, it is the those who knew the Old Testament, the physical children of Abraham primarily, who could see in the long range, and not primarily dictated to by the political passions of the moment, and who could wonder who they were and where they had gone wrong, and wonder also who would be the One to take them out. It is they, Israel, who had been in the wilderness for 40 years, and they that had succumbed to the temptations of selling out for food and drink, though they were a "Son" whom God with a strong arm and outstreched hand had taken out of the bondage of Egypt, they had turned traitor, driven by their own lust and pride. And here now, in Jesus, was One who resisted the devil in the wilderness, also "for forty", prefering the will of God as His food rather than all the world could offer, Who was He? He was Israel! The only true one left, the faithful remnent spoken of by the prophet Isaiah, the servant true to the end. As the letter to the Hebrews saw, "Though He were a Son yet learned He obedience by the things He suffered, and being made perfect, He become the author of Eternal life...". This is the understanding of the Gospel of Matthew, in interpreting a passage from Hosea which was manifestly speaking of Israel the people and applying it to Jesus who also came out of Egypt with His parents at the death of Herod, " Out of Egypt have I called my Son". Who was Jesus? He was Israel who had ''not'' failed come to redeem Israel who had, and also out of all the peoples of the world. |
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I just noticed this: |
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==== Disciples and Apostles ==== |
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[[Image:Jesus5.jpg|thumb|left|100px|Jesus Christ (Conceptualization)]] |
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The larger part of this was directed towards his closest followers, the [[apostles]], although all of his followers were considered [[disciples of Jesus|disciples]]. At the highest point of his ministry, Jesus attracted disciples and audiences numbering in the thousands; in particular in the area of Galilee. Many of Jesus' most well-known teachings were given during the [[Sermon on the Mount]], such as the [[Beatitudes]] and the [[Lord's Prayer]]. Jesus often used parables in his rhetorical technique, such as the [[Parable of the Good Samaritan]] and the Parable of the Sheep and the Goats; these teachings encouraged unconditional self-sacrificing [[Shema|love for God]] and [[Agape|for all people]]. During these sermons, he also discussed service and humility, forgiveness of sins, how faith should be applied, the [[Golden Rule]], and the necessity of following the spirit of the law as well as its wording. |
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(User rename log); 17:31 . . Sj (Talk | contribs) (has renamed User:Fucking idiot to User:Fid: 10 edits. Reason: ) |
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'''Their choosing and their purpose:''' Among the many who came to Jesus, from afar and from the surrounding villages of the north shore of the Sea of Galilee, were those moved by his insight into the nature of life, or touched deeply by His seemingly knowing them from the inside, by His intimacy with the God and Father they had only known "about", or impressed by the miracles done before their very eyes, and many, by His deep compassion for the people, so evident in all that He did. Jesus would sprinkle His words upon them as seed in a path, some to take root, and some to be blown away by the wind. But to those who heard and wanted more, they would get that more, receiving explanation, and move closer to His association. Those that would not, would receive only that which was commensurate to not wanting - more parables, silence. Never the revealing of the "Secrets of the Kingdom". Yet, there was no prohibition and no limit for getting closer to Jesus. Those that did, became His "learners" - the disciples, understanding the meanings of His word by the demonstration of His life and putting them into practice. Among these were another group, some that had been with Him from from early on, possibly some from the time of His baptism at the hands of John. These He would hold in His mind for an additional and different reason. |
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"Fid" is a nice username. It's a shame to make it unavailable. If you must rename, something like u154970135 would be a good choice. |
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Then one night, he ascended a hill praying about them, and came down knowing who they were to be. 12 in number, chosen not because of their virtue, or even what He would do in them in the future, but rather solely chosen by His Father to be deputized, delegated, or commissioned by Jesus to be sent out for a mission. He gave them the name "Shaliach" (meaning all that), which was translated into Greek as "apostolos" and so our Apostles. |
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IMHO there is no need though, since nobody is going to go digging through the list of users. |
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The mission of the Apostles was to do all that they saw Jesus was doing, healing the sick, raising the dead, and with all this, to tell about the fast coming Kingdom of Heaven, the rule of His Father, and urge people to repent and get ready for it. He gave them His power and authority to do all this. But it was to be 12 in number, not more and not less, that number surviving even the suicide of one of them, Judas from the village of Kyriot, requiring an "election" to bring back the number from 11 to 12. And that was because the special additional reason for their appointment was to sit on the the 12 thrones of the 12 tribes of Israel (the sons of Jacob) and lead them by whatever it takes - that is the meaning of the biblical term "Judge" (Shofet). For the community of the "little ones"., was to be, in some sense, an Israel within Israel, or a new Israel, a sort of beachhead for the onslaught of the Kingdom of God in its invasion (or sometimes, infiltration into) into and onto the Kingdom of the unjust occupier and enemy of all Goodness, the Devil, to overthrow him and all his works. This truer and newer Israel, He called His "Called Out ones" (Eklessia=Church) against whose onslaught the Fortified city of Hell with its defensive bars to its massive gates, would not prevail. Many captives would be released. The Church, then, was the community counterpart to what was known as the "Synagogue" (Greek), meaning "gathered together ones" (Beit Knesset - house of the gathering, Hebrew). It was the Synagogue of Jesus the King and Messiah, and aligned with and the focal point of the Prophetically promised and hoped for Kingdom of God and the rule of Heaven on Earth. And the disciples and apostles of Jesus all had their place in the unfolding of it all. |
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[[Special:Contributions/72.40.45.79|72.40.45.79]] 18:14, 13 September 2008 (UTC) |
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==== Social Outcasts ==== |
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Jesus also often conversed with social outcasts, such as the publican ([[Rome|Roman]] tax collectors who were unpopular for their practice of extorting money). |
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== hi SJ, == |
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Throughout his ministry, Jesus performed many miracles including healing the sick and possessed, feeding 5000, and even raising from the dead. |
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Honestly, I was never an admin at NWE, so it'll be new. I just made templates or fixed templates that wasn't working. For vandalism, I could check recent changes and catch one, or if you are developing a bot, I can vandalize on purpose to see if the bot will catch it. Am I already an admin now? It'll be great if you can post me something like welcome to OLPC but for admins so I could read how to use my powers :P. --[[User:Hiro|Hiro]] 12:19, 14 September 2008 (UTC) |
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==== His Preaching was Offensive to the Established Authority ==== |
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:Hi SJ, ok no problem. Is there something specific you will like for me to work on? I wish the main page could be changed to be more... easily viewed instead of bunch of links, but I wouldn't be able to design it from scratch. Just thought I'll throw in the idea. Are there pages that need clean up or with broken templates? Feel free to let me know. --[[User:Hiro|Hiro]] 17:17, 16 September 2008 (UTC) |
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As He preached, Jesus ran afoul of the [[Sanhedrin]], the recognized Jewish religious authorities, who were allowed to have considerable religious, political and monetary influence under Roman rule. Jesus chastised them, accusing them of making laws for the people to follow that were the laws of men, not God. The Sanhedrin tried to set traps for Jesus by asking Him questions to either discredit Him with the people or get Him in trouble with the Roman authorities, but all of their efforts failed and they gave up. They lacked the means to stop Jesus until [[Judas Iscariot]] came to them and offered to betray Jesus for 30 pieces of silver. He would tell them where Jesus would be that night so they could seize Him. |
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::Hi again, is this a vandalism or is it there on purpose? [[Special:Contributions/201.221.32.126]] I'm talking about what this user did btw. Is there a specific place I could report all this? --[[User:Hiro|Hiro]] 18:34, 16 September 2008 (UTC) |
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:::Ping :) --[[User:Hiro|Hiro]] 17:58, 25 September 2008 (UTC) |
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== Hi SJ! == |
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I'm Prakhar Agarwal. I recently took my GRE exam to pursue Master's in US. I was really waiting for my certificate. I have to send a copy of that certificate to many universities. I wish if I could talk to you regarding that. Cheers! -- [[User:Prakhar|Prakhar]] 14 September 2008 |
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==== Lord's Supper ==== |
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'''God and man at table are sat down:''' |
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==wiki adminship== |
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It happened before - "Moses went up with Aaron, Nadab and Abihu. and seventy elders of Israel. They saw the God of Israel...they gazed on God. They ate and they drank." Exodus 24: 9-11 |
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this was a surprise, cuz I didn't know I'd been nominated. the wiki admin pages are the only parts of the wiki that I usually ignore! i'll strive to use my new powers for truth, justice adn the <strike>American</strike> OLPC way ;-) [[User:AuntiMame|AuntiMame]] 00:15, 15 September 2008 (UTC) |
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== en alianza - in py == |
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It would happen after - "Now while He was with them at table, He took the bread and said the blessing, then He broke it and handed it to them. And their eyes were opened and recognized Him. But He had vanished from their sight. Then they said to each other, Did not our hearts burn within us as He talked to us on the road, and explained the Scriptures to us?"Luke 24: 30-32 |
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http://enalianza.org.py/v2/ |
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Eating before the Lord or with the Lord, would be used as the hightest form of friendship - Behold, I stand at the door and knock. If any one hears My voice and opens the door I will come in to him and share my meal with him, side by side.". Rev. 3:20. |
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== Re game jam Peru == |
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At the [[Passover Seder]], the last meal the Lord would eat with His followers, His presence so permeated the atmosphere, and what He said and did at that special time, and especially they having received His command to do just what He was doing before them at this time, whenever they would meet together, the Apostles of the Lord and the Gospels after them could not speak of bountiful and miraculous times of the Lord's gracious giving of food feeding the multitudes, without mentioning that which otherwise would not have been mentioned - ''He took the bread, looked up to heaven blessing the bread, He broke the bread, and He gave it to them.'' That is what the Lord did before them, and that is what Hie commanded them to do after Him, and thus provided for them, and for the Church after them, the one of two universal services - the [[Lord's Supper]], or [[Eucharist]], or [[Holy Communion]]. |
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sure, I can come..pls see your email! [[User:RafaelOrtiz]] |
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But in addition, He gave His own particular understanding to the unleavened bread of the Passover and ceremonial cup of wine, the 3rd and "Thanksgiving cup" of wine drunk immediately after the Passover meal was eaten. In slightly varying words, the Gospels and the Church after would perpetuate that understanding by repeating what the Lord Himself said at that Last Supper - "This is My Body which is given for you... This is My blood, the blood of the New Covenant which is shed for you, and for the many. Do this as my own Remembrance". And so He signified to His followers that His life would be given in sacrifice for them and for their benefit. How this benefit would be effected, would be explained by Jesus by other sayings, "Do not think that I have come in order to be served. I have not come to be served but rather to serve, and to give my life as a ransom for many." |
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But His presence remained with them at the continual celebration of this new Christian [[Passover]] of the Communion. Though He had vanished from their eyes as He would return to the Father, yet through the Spirit which He had promised to be in His stead, He was there with them to remain- "Where two or three are gathered together in My name, there am I!"..." Even so, Come Lord Jesus!" |
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==Bot account created == |
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Note: The word Maranatha, comes from the Greek word which is translating the Aramaic which comes in two forms according to the accent given. Marana tha - "O our Lord, come!", and Maran atha - "Our Lord has come". This appears in the earliest liturgies of the Eucharist, and was used either as an invocation for the Lord to come, a sort of invite, or as an exclamation that the Lord has indeed come, just as He said He would. In either case, it was a witness to the belief that the Lord was indeed with them when they participated in the Remembrance which He had commanded. |
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[[User:AuntieMameBot]] created. [[User:AuntiMameBot|AuntiMameBot]] 23:55, 28 September 2008 (UTC) |
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== TOC/heading question == |
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==== Garden of Gethsemane ==== |
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[[Image:Jesus in Gethsemane.jpg|thumb|right|150px|Jesus in Gethsamane]] |
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Jesus knew that His time was short and that He was about to be betrayed into the hands of sinners. He had His last supper with his disciples and went with them to the [[Garden of Gethsemane]] and prayed vehemently knowing what was about to come. |
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On a page like [[Sugar Almanac]] in a section like [[Sugar Almanac#Package: sugar]] how would we link to the headings on [[Sugar.env]]? --erikb |
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==== Tried before Jewish Authorities ==== |
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Jesus was betrayed by Judas into the hands of the Jewish religious authorities who took Him away and secretly put Him on trial during the night, trying to find justification for their desire to have Him killed. Finally, they convicted Him of blasphemy. |
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: I'm not sure quite what you want to do. The TOC comes from the <nowiki>{{</nowiki>[[Template:Sugar Almanac TOC|Sugar Almanac TOC]]}} template... which is long and can't easily be compressed into that three-line section for the sugar Package. Can you explain which headings you want to link to? the same ones that are currently in [[Sugar Almanac#Package: sugar]], but with a different format? --[[User:Sj|Sj]] [[User talk:Sj|<font style="color:#f70; font-size:70%">talk</font>]] 22:26, 2 October 2008 (UTC) |
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==== Tried before Roman Authorities ==== |
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As they did not have the authority to put a man to death, they took him to [[Pontius Pilate]], the Roman governor of Palestine, with their charges and demanded his execution. Pilate avoided the issue by sending him to [[Herod Antipas|King Herod]] since Jesus was a Galilean, but Herod sent him back to Pilate. Pilate at first tried to release Jesus with a flogging, and then gave the crowd a choice to either spare Jesus or a criminal called [[Barabbas]] as part of the passover tradition. The crowd chose to free Barabbas and Pilate washed his hands to signify that he bore no responsibility for Jesus' death before ultimately condemning Him to [[crucifixion]].<ref>Matthew 27: 15-44</ref> |
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I would like to create a new TOC which can list the headings on different pages. For example, in this new TOC, I would like to list all of the subheadings on linked-to pages. |
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==== Scourging ==== |
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==== Death on a Cross ==== |
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[[Image:David Christ on the Cross.jpg|right|thumb|Christ on the Cross by [[Jacques Louis David]].]] |
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Jesus died after suffering and giving up his spirit. |
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Behind the Cross was the sum total of all the maladies of mankind, that the Old Testament unveiled : Pesh'a - conscious and "high handed" rebellion, for which , under the Old Covenant, there was no forgiveness provided, Khet - an unintended "missing of the mark", as in the deviation from the bull's eye of the bowman, Shigi'a - the mistakes, some causing great harm to others, which come about by plain ignorance, and 'Avon "iniquity" or distortion - the inner twistedness, that causes failure and suffering, seemingly from the very structure of our persons regardless of our intent. These were the sins Godwards as well as towards man, and these are all, Scripture revealed, repugnant to the nature and standard of a Holy God. |
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* [[Sugar.graphics.toolbutton#How_do_I_connect_my_tool_button_to_a_callback.3F]] |
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On the Cross, in a way which is unfathomable to man, but nontheless believable, the repugnance fell upon Jesus, the Son of God, and again in a way not fully understandable to us, but believable nonetheless, God was in Christ reconciling the world unto Himself, not considering us the sinners but rather His own dear Son who had no taint upon Himself. A great transaction had taken place by the imposition of Himself of Christ in our place, absorbing, as if He were a blotter, all the reaction of a Holy God upon Himself, in our place, that we might go free. Unfair to Him, Mercy to us. Yet Jesus was not forced to do it. He did it both in His great love for us and in His obedience to the way that the Father had decided. "No one takes my life from me. I have power to take it and I have power to lay it down..I lay down my life for the sheep". Peter would say, "The Just for the unjust, that He might bring us to God." Paul would say, "He was made to be sin, He who did not "know" sin, that we might be made the righteousness of God in Him".That was Friday. |
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* [[Sugar.graphics.toolbutton#What_is_a_tooltip_and_how_do_I_set_it_for_my_tool_button.3F]] |
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On Saturday, when all were at Sabbath's rest, Jesus was not. His body dead, He passed in spirit to those that had died before, those in the period of Noah, and proclaimed, as Peter taught, what He had done. On Sunday, the first day of the week, He would rise from the dead. |
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* [[Sugar.graphics.toolbutton#How_do_I_reset_the_icon_displayed_for_my_tool_button.3F]] |
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The Cross of Christ, and the atonement He accomplished on it, is the very grounds that anyone who will be saved can be saved. The shedding of His blood brings salvation, to anyone who will respond, according to the ability that they have, that is given them. That brings forgiveness to the murderer such as Paul, the adultress such as the "woman taken in adultery", the tax-collecting extortioner, a seeker in the night turned believer, as hopefully Nicodemus proved to be, people that just know that they are sinners without any "grave sin" to specify, and also the "fetus" whose life was cut off in the womb as a "thing", and the severly retarded child banging his head in the institution he finds himself. All, according to the light given them, and repentence and turning to God given to them, will one day know just what was the basis for their salvation - the Cross of Christ. Those who reject, will also one day know the basis by which they could have been saved if they had not rejected - the Cross of Christ |
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=== Resurrection === |
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:''See main article: [[Resurrection of Jesus Christ]]'' |
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On the third day after his death, Jesus [[resurrection of Jesus Christ|rose bodily from the dead]]. |
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* [[Sugar.profile#How_do_I_get_the_user.27s_nick_name.3F]] |
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In recent history, Dr. [[Gary Habermas]] is considered the foremost [[Christian apologetics|Christian apologist]] for defending the [[Resurrection of Jesus Christ|resurrection of Jesus]]. Other notable defenders of the resurrection include: [[William Lane Craig]], [[Ben Witherington]], [[Lee Strobel]], [[Josh McDowell]], [[Edwin M. Yamauchi]], [[N.T. Wright]], and [[Michael Horner]].<ref> |
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* http://www.leaderu.com/offices/billcraig/menus/historical.html |
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* http://www.leaderu.com/everystudent/easter/articles/josh2.html |
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* http://www.leaderu.com/everystudent/easter/articles/yama.html |
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* http://www.ntwrightpage.com/Wright_Early_Traditions.htm |
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* http://www.michaelhorner.com/articles/resurrection/index.html</ref> In addition, much has been written defending the resurrection of Christ in the field of [[Christian Legal Apologetics|Christian legal apologetics]]. |
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* [[Sugar.profile#How_do_I_get_the_XO_colors_set_by_the_user.3F]] |
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=== Ascension into Heaven === |
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Can I provide a TOC with a list of pages and have the wiki automatically list the subheadings on those pages? We would like to see all of the Almanac's answered questions on one page. |
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== Historical Analysis == |
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=== Dating Jesus' Birth === |
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Modern historians generally place the actual date of Jesus' birth between 7 and 4 B.C., due to problems reconciling the Roman and Jewish calendars with the [[Gregorian Calendar]] which is in use today throughout the industrialized world. |
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[[User:Jedierikb|Jedierikb]] |
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=== Historicity of Jesus === |
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Occasionally, non-historians deny the [[historicity of Jesus]] (Having to do with the question of whether Jesus was in fact a real person who had a real life on earth), but few scholars take this seriously. [[Tacitus]], a Roman historian, wrote about Jesus in A.D. 115,<ref>http://www.digisys.net/users/ddalton/evidence_of_jesus_outside_the_bible.htm</ref> and [[Josephus]], a Jewish historian who did not believe in Jesus' divinity, wrote about him.<ref>http://www.christian-thinktank.com/jesusref.html</ref> Dr. [[Gary Habermas]] wrote an extensive analysis of the historicity of Jesus in his work ''The Historical Jesus: Ancient Evidence for the Life of Christ'', which discusses many historical sources that mention Jesus. |
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[[Lee Strobel]]'s book ''[[The Case for Christ]]'' contains a number of interviews with experts on the historical Jesus and a defense of Jesus's resurrection, and is a good resource on this subject. |
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Any ideas or pointers? Thanks -- jedierikb |
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== Jesus' Name == |
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=== ''Jesus'' === |
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The bible doesn't tell us much about the meaning of the name ''Jesus'', but does tell us who gave the name, when the name was given, and a reason the name was given. Luke 2:21 tells us that his name was given (1) "by the angel," (2) and it was given "before He was conceived in the womb." The reason for naming him Jesus seems to be given in Matthew 1:21, which says, "...you shall call His name Jesus, for He will save His people from their sins." |
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== Hello == |
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The Greeks derived the name from the late Hebrew or Aramaic name Yoshua, today’s version of which is “Joshua”. The earlier Aramaic form was Jehoshua (Y’hoshua) or Joshua., deriving from Hebrew Yah, short for Yahweh, and Aramaic y’shuoh meaning “salvation”. The name thus meant “Jah is salvation”. Both Joshua and Jehoshua were common names in the time of Jesus. |
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I am new to the OLPC wiki. I was assigned to prepare a Deployment guide for OLE Nepal. I created the page but I don't know if it meets the standards of the OLPC wiki. Could you take a look and leave suggestions at the talk page. Thank you. [[User:Pradosh|Pradosh]] 05:36, 22 October 2008 (UTC) |
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=== ''Christ'' === |
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http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLE_Nepal:_Deployment_guide |
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== Checking up == |
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Hi SJ, |
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The Teachings of Our Lord Jesus Christ are found in the four [[Gospels]] and other holy documents. |
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I recently made an [[Projects/dhading | application]] for some development laptops through the contributors' program, which I understand was approved. I was hoping to get started soon and just wanted to check if the laptops have been sent and if not when I could expect them. |
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[http://www.lifeofchrist.com/teachings/sermons/mount/default.asp '''Sermon on the Mount'''] This is the greatest sermon Jesus ever preached. It contains the Lord's prayer, the beatitudes, the golden rule, and practical advice for Christian living. |
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Thanks, |
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Gerry Healy |
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'''The Lord's Prayer''' |
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Our Father who art in heaven, |
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I'll be leaving Nepal in June 2009 so I have some time constraints to work on the [[Projects/dhading | Dhading project]]. I have had delays at my own end also, but for it to be realistic in this time frame. I need some development machines soonish. I may be able to borrow some from OLE. Would that be a better option? [[User:Nickel chrome|Nickel chrome]] 11:03, 28 December 2008 (UTC) |
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Hallowed be Your name. |
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: There's no problem getting them from us -- check back next week on the status of your machines. You might consider applying for a Nepali contributors-pool as well. [[Special:Contributions/24.61.14.99|24.61.14.99]] 20:27, 28 December 2008 (UTC) |
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== Health Content Poster == |
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Your kingdom come. |
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Hello SJ, |
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Your will be done, |
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Not sure if this is already taken care of, but I'm writing about the health content poster post in the Art Wanted section. If you're still looking for contributors/helpers, please let me know. I'll be glad to help. |
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On earth as it is in heaven. |
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Best wishes, |
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Give us this day our daily bread. |
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--Gabriel |
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And forgive us our debts, |
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--[[Special:Contributions/98.217.72.125|98.217.72.125]] 21:20, 28 November 2008 (UTC) |
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== Bundles vs. collections == |
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as we also have forgiven our debtors. |
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These days there are |
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And do not lead us into temptation, |
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* [[Activities]], <tt>.xo</tt> files which show up in the Home view |
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* [[Collections]], <tt>.xol</tt> files which show up in the OLPC Library. |
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So I think [[:Category:Activity_bundle]] should only be for the .xo file put on wiki.laptop.org , not for the wiki page it comes from. |
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but deliver us from evil. |
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I'm not sure what [[:Category:Bundles]] is for. |
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For Yours is the kingdom |
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: all [[bundles]], activity, library, generic. --[[User:Sj|Sj]] [[User talk:Sj|<font style="color:#f70; font-size:70%">talk</font>]] |
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Also, [[:Category:Activity_bundle]] says: |
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and the power |
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: Activites that provide a <tt>.xo</tt> bundle should declare so ... |
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but I thought all Activities provide a .xo file. |
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:: If you define it that way, then this is true. That's probably clean; it leaves items such as individual etoys projects in limbo until they are packaged. |
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BTW, I'm adding all [[Collections]] I find to [[:Category:Collections]] and it seems other categorizations of them are redundant. |
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and the glory forever. |
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: Which other categoriations? That category should itsefl be in [[:Category:Bundles]]. Thanks for the update! --[[User:Sj|Sj]] [[User talk:Sj|<font style="color:#f70; font-size:70%">talk</font>]] 18:52, 12 December 2008 (UTC) |
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??! -- [[User:Skierpage|skierpage]] 11:33, 11 December 2008 (UTC) |
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[[Amen]]. |
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== in case you miss it in chat == |
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[http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Special:ContributionHistory?offset=1229316817#176840] :) -- phoebe |
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See [[The Lord's Prayer]] for the Greek and the interlineal transliterated Aramaic and Hebrew versions. |
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== Decisions about Projects == |
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The workflow for new projects is not clear to me. Who decides about a project and how often? AFAIC decisions are made on weekly meetings, but my project has not been touched in the projectdb for 5 weeks. And why are projects hidden in the projectdb? If there is nothing happening for weeks someone else might submit a similar project, or even the same. This is a duplication of work for both the submitters and the decision makers. Is there a way to make the process more transparent? --[[User:Cwickert|Cwickert]] 14:09, 17 December 2008 (UTC) |
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'''The golden rule:''' |
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: the plan is to move the whole thing, minus the sharing of address/phone info at the end, to the wiki and [[projects]] page. --[[User:Sj|Sj]] [[User talk:Sj|<font style="color:#f70; font-size:70%">talk</font>]] 14:42, 17 December 2008 (UTC) |
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== Communication == |
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"Do unto others, as you would have them do unto you!" |
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What are the official channels for development related communication? #olpc and #olpc-help were not very helpful because noone was able to answere my questions. #olpc-devel is orphaned. |
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Also I wonder if editing wiki pages is a good way for direct one on one communication. Isn't there something else if I wanted to reach you? --[[User:Cwickert|Cwickert]] 14:09, 17 December 2008 (UTC) |
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: You can use #olpc-devel in irc.oftc.net -- that just chanegd irc networks. [[Special:Contributions/24.61.14.99|24.61.14.99]] 20:25, 28 December 2008 (UTC) |
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== Postal address == |
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Please mention yours on your page - not everyone has email. Thanks!! --[[User:Arjs|Arjs]] 14:11, 2 January 2009 (UTC) |
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'''Prayer To Receive Him Now ''' |
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== Activity web pages vs. Projects/ subpages == |
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''"Jesus, I believe You are the Son of God and the Savior of the world. Thank you for coming to Earth and dying so that I could have eternal life. Please forgive all my sins. I am going to follow You with my life now. Please fill me with Your Holy Spirit and direct my steps. In Jesus' name, [[Amen]]."'' <ref> [http://www.jesus2020.com/jesus.html Prayer To Receive Him Now]</ref> |
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Hey sj, as I wrote devel@lists.laptop.org I wrote [[Maintaining activity web information]]. |
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== See also == |
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*[[Andrew the Apostle]] |
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*[[Atonement]] |
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*[[Byzantine Empire]] |
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*[[Eucharist]] |
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*[[Lazarus (brother of Mary)]] |
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*[[Lazarus (Parable)]] |
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*[[Judaism]] |
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*[[New Testament understanding through the Jewish perspective]] |
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*[[Passover Seder]] |
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If activities remain on w.l.o and use the [Edit with form], anyone can make a lists of activities that stays up-to-date instead of messing with templates and fragments and transclusions. See [[Activity queries]]. To me, this is clearly the way forward. |
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==References== |
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{{reflist}} |
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But there's a lot of stuff I don't understand. |
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== External links == |
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* [http://www.lifeofchrist.com/life/lifescan/default.asp Summary of the Life of Jesus] |
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* [http://www.lifeofchrist.com/life/lifescan/teachings.asp Teachings of Jesus] |
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* [http://www.lifeofchrist.com/teachings/sermons/ Sermons of Jesus Christ] |
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* [http://www.ccci.org/wij/ Who is Jesus? Is Jesus Christ God?] |
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* [http://www.bible-history.com/links.php?cat=19&sub=302&cat_name=Jesus&subcat_name=Background Jesus Background] Bible History on line. |
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* [http://www.lewissociety.org/ C. S. Lewis Society of California]. |
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* [http://www.lewissociety.org/bodily.php The Bodily Resurrection of Jesus, by William Lane Craig]. |
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* [http://www.ntwrightpage.com/Wright_Historical_Problem.htm Christian Origins and the Resurrection of Jesus: The Resurrection of Jesus as a Historical Problem, by N. T. Wright]. |
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* [http://www.lewissociety.org/resurrection.php Contemporary Scholarship and the Historical Evidence for the Resurrection of Jesus Christ, by William Lane Craig]. |
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* [http://www.ntwrightpage.com/Wright_Justice_Jesus.htm Doing Justice to Jesus: A Response to J.D. Crossan: "What Victory? What God?", by N. T. Wright]. |
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* [http://www.ntwrightpage.com/Wright_Historical_Jesus.htm The Historical Jesus and Christian Theology, by N. T. Wright]. |
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* [http://www.religion-online.org/showarticle.asp?title=37 The Wright Quest for the Historical Jesus, by Ben Witherington, III]. |
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* Many activities also have an Activities/''Name'' page that's got an ugly summary template. Often it's a link to Projects/''Name'', e.g. [[Activities/Etoys]]. I believe these are confusing and redundant. Can I delete them? If not, is there an explanation of what these pages are for? |
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[[Category:Jesus]] |
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[[Category:Christianity]] |
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* [[Creating an activity]] has buttons to Create activity summary and [Create an activity]. I don't understand why there are two buttons and I don't think either is an appropriate template for an activity. What should an activity's page look like? |
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[[Category:Christian History]] |
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[[Category:Religion]] |
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* Some of the Projects/ subpages aren't activities, e.g. [[Projects/Translation_dictionary]] is a collection. What are/were you trying to achieve with Projects/ subpages? I see references to a projects DB, is there such a thing? |
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[[Category:Biblical Persons]] |
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** If you want to make a list of projects e.g. on the [[Projects]] page, semantics are the way to do it. |
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[[Category:Divine Beings]] |
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** So I'm not sure if all the project template machinery is redundant. I don't know whether to mark it obsolete or update it to set semantic properties. |
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* Is any clean-up and improvement on w.l.o irrelevant if activities are moving to sugarlabs.org ?! |
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Like so many areas on wiki.laptop.org, I see the results of an idea but not the plan for it, so I'm not sure how to improve on it. |
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Thanks for any elucidation! |
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-- [[User:Skierpage|skierpage]] 00:08, 10 February 2009 (UTC) |
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== Mail of Jan 30, 2009 == |
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Please be so kind as to answer to the mail I sent you on January 30th, 2009. |
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--[[User:Cwickert|Cwickert]] 15:43, 7 March 2009 (UTC) |
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== User_talk: page message notifications == |
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Hi Sj, I'm having trouble finding information on the implementation of the notification service that generates a orange-spanned message on my current page when a new message on my talk page is saved. Any pointers would be appreciated. |
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I'm actually thinking about this in relation to a possible utility to generate small message flags that would appear on main pages on the border of sections that have corresponding talk_page comments (configured by the commenter to match an anchor placed on the main page section.) --[[User:FGrose|FGrose]] 00:51, 24 March 2009 (UTC) |
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: Now I see. It's a good idea... some hacking would be required. --[[User:Sj|Sj]] [[User talk:Sj|<font style="color:#f70; font-size:70%">talk</font>]] 03:44, 25 March 2009 (UTC) |
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== Your OLPC Map on Google Maps, how do we collaborate in it? == |
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I wanted to but couldn't figure out how to add the location of [http://www.camnet.com.kh/cambodiaschools/schools_map/school_3.htm The Elaine and Nicholas Negroponte School] |
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Location of School |
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Province:Preah Vihear |
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District:Rôvieng |
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Commune:Rôssmei |
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Village:Trâpeang |
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http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Cambodia |
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My father is visiting my wife's (she's an adopted Cambodian living in Brussels Belgium) Parents. My father created www.lzg.be - Teachers without Frontiers and I'm on the pay-roll of http://www.olpceu.org/content/aboutus/aboutus_staff.html] - http://www.olpco2e.org --[[User:SvenAERTS|SvenAERTS]] 09:45, 3 April 2009 (UTC) |
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== Invitation/Brandeis/Social Justice and Technology Conference == |
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Dear Mr. Klein, |
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Charles Nesson suggested I be in touch with you. The International Center for Ethics, Justice, and Public Life at Brandeis University is hosting a conference called TMI (Too Much Information): Social Justice in the Age of Facebook on September 10 and 11, 2009. We would like to invite you to speak at the main session on September 11 from 9-11 am, "Does Digital Deepen the Divide?" We believe that you, with your role at One Laptop Per Child, would present a unique and valuable perspective on the question of technological access for children internationally, and whether access to new technologies and computers helps bridge the divides among individuals and societies, or whether it increases the gaps. |
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I would love to talk to you further about this conference and give you additional detail. Can you contact me at sgwilson@brandeis.edu? I look forward to speaking with you soon. |
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Best, |
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Stephanie Gerber Wilson, PhD |
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Brandeis University |
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sgwilson@brandeis.edu |
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: Thank you for the invitation. I've responded via email. --[[User:Sj|Sj]] [[User talk:Sj|<font style="color:#f70; font-size:70%">talk</font>]] |
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== Template:test-case-query question == |
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Greetings SJ, |
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I'm slowly getting familiar with semantic+mediawiki in an effort to determine if this will meet my needs. I'm using the laptop.org QA pages as a reference for sample queries, forms and templates. However, I'm stuck trying to understand a particular problem where mediawiki will not expand a nested template properly using the <nowiki>{{fullurl:...}}</nowiki> parser function. |
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As one of the original authors of the Template:Add-test-result and Template:Test-case-query pages, I thought you might have insight to this mediawiki-ism. This is likely a new-user problem, but any experiences you can share around the SMW implementation for laptop.org would be appreciated. You can see the page that currently is presenting difficulty at https://publictest6.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Testing_SMW. I can be reached at jlaska AT fedoraproject DOT org. I hope to hear from you soon :) |
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Thanks, |
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James |
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: I don't think you can embed parser functions the way you were trying to. But the extension is coming along quickly - you should drop a question at the SMW central wiki for the most accurate answer. --[[User:Sj|Sj]] [[User talk:Sj|<font style="color:#f70; font-size:70%">talk</font>]] 05:40, 7 August 2009 (UTC) |
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== Everything works again == |
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Thank you, dear Samuel and OLPC-Team --[[User:Papillon|Papillon]] 20:34, 11 August 2009 (UTC) |
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== Counter does not work == |
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Since Saturday 8/1/09 the counter does not work. |
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Now it is not possible to see how many users has been accessed the pages. I’m not sure but I think all pages have the same problem --[[User:Papillon|Papillon]] 10:43, 3 August 2009 (UTC) |
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== OLPCO2e, et al == |
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Hi Sven, |
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I was cleaning up the wiki this morning and found all of the CO2 pages, which blossomed over the spring. There were about 12 pages which all had the same content, |
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... |
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so I merged them (without the use of any gang :) into [[OLPCO2e]]. [[User:Sj|Sj]] [[User talk:Sj|<font style="color:#f70; font-size:70%">talk</font>]] 13:00, 8 December 2009 (UTC) |
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I cannot find the page: OLPCO2e link Agenda 21 anymore. How can I recuperate it? It is a very important page for all in OLPC and OLPCO2e. Thanky--[[User:SvenAERTS|SvenAERTS]] 11:20, 9 December 2009 (UTC) |
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I also replied - but on my talk page - on your other paragraphs. This tool notifies you of that or do I just have to mention and you go there and have a look then or I have to do like above and copy/paste parts- topic per topic - to copy/paste here in your User talk page? Do I have to Watch this page? How are these "message" alerts being activated? Ty --[[User:SvenAERTS|SvenAERTS]] 11:20, 9 December 2009 (UTC) |
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== Adminship thanks == |
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thanks for the nomination. Whatever happens, I'll try and behave to expectations... --[[User:Martinlanghoff|Martinlanghoff]] 14:26, 17 December 2009 (UTC) |
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== Why did you move Academic Papers, SJ? == |
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I don't believe we discussed that. As the one who started that page, I'd like to know. Thanks. <span style="background:#FFFFFF; padding:1px; margin-left:20px; font-size:75%;">[[Image:red.png]][[User:Yamaplos|<span style="color:#000091;cursor:" title="Executive Director, OLE Bolivia"> Yamaplos </span>]]</span><font size="small"> 02:56, 22 March 2010 (UTC) |
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: It was duplicating half of its refs with the other assessments/research page. I moved both of them to a new title where they were merged. Feel free to subdivide in some logical fashion, as long as the duplication of records/papers is resolved cleanly. --[[User:Sj|Sj]] [[User talk:Sj|<font style="color:#f70; font-size:70%">talk</font>]] 21:52, 26 March 2010 (UTC) |
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::Thanks, Ed Cherlin tried already, and we ended up with some stuff getting moved to Sugarlabs. IMHO it's better to have things mostly together. Hopefully something really good shows up eventually that we can really wave as a banner. I'm waiting for Nepal's research, hopefully soon (announced for August) |
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== Information case studies == |
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Searching for FAQ. Was it easy? How do we identify frequent users, and how do we service them better? |
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: How do we take advantage of having everything here? |
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Related topics. Policies and guidelines for our official material. |
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Menu system for officially monitored pages. (not just categories - Lynn) |
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--[[User:Sj|Sj]] [[User talk:Sj|<font style="color:#f70; font-size:70%">talk</font>]] 19:20, 31 March 2010 (UTC) |
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== Parent Education Course Writer's Guide == |
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Are you interested in [[parent education courses]] for the OLPC? |
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I'm about to release my book in Germany (print on demand) and would allow inclusion of the second edition into an OLPC distribution or library, but currently not yet under Creative Commons Attribution/Share-Alike. The first edition is available under Creative Commons Attribution/Share-Alike, though. --[[User:Fasten|Bernhard Fastenrath]] 13:15, 10 April 2010 (UTC) |
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: What a lovely idea! I would love to add this to a [[collection]] of books (preferably available in html...). --[[User:Sj|Sj]] [[User talk:Sj|<font style="color:#f70; font-size:70%">talk</font>]] 09:44, 15 April 2010 (UTC) |
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:: I can offer wiki format and XSL-FO. Conversion to HTML and PDF should be trivial. Help yourself. --[[User:Fasten|Bernhard Fastenrath]] 11:35, 18 April 2010 (UTC) |
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::: I'm still working on the translation of the latest version to English. I'll let you know when the translation is available. --[[User:Fasten|Bernhard Fastenrath]] 12:39, 24 April 2010 (UTC) |
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:::: The translation of the free version is finished and you can find it on Wikibooks. I've added some more content from the published version. The published version will be available on request (but the translation isn't finished yet). --[[User:Fasten|Bernhard Fastenrath]] 14:15, 18 May 2010 (UTC) |
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== note from [[user:mmassey]] == |
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I'd like to meet tomorrow am to brainstorm action items for locating existing photos. |
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-Mike |
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== Photo meeting == |
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SJ, |
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Let's meet tomorrow to discuss strategy for locating existing photos. |
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-Mike |
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■ [[User:NeoAmsterdam|NeoAmsterdam]]<span style="font-size: 50%;"><sup>[[User talk:NeoAmsterdam|Talk]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/NeoAmsterdam|Edits]]</sub><tt>2010-07-01T11:16:25Z</tt></span> |
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:I agree. I deleted it before. This time I shall remove the text of the page and protect it. SJ: I've no idea if there is a better thing to do. --[[User:Quozl|Quozl]] 22:37, 1 July 2010 (UTC) |
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== Note from [[user:GJavetski]]== |
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Finally getting how this works! Just updated my talk page to include a summary of my remaining time (what a silly phrase) at OLPC. Thanks again for your help! |
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== Collab Conundrum == |
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Hi Sj. I just answered your question [[User talk:Mark.Burnett#Plan|on my talk page]], which reminded me of a wiki collaboration conundrum I was thinking about earlier that maybe you can help with. Presumably the only way you would know I replied to your question is either if you watch my talk page, in which case you also get emailed whenever anyone else talks to me, which you may not want, or to remember to go back and check. This works fine for small numbers of conversations, but I am preparing to look across the whole wiki and may want to talk to all sorts of people. Are you aware of any ways of doing this that allow email updates but keep it relevant to the conversations I am in? The only way I can think of at the moment is to invite people in to my talk page and hold all the conversations there. Do you have a better suggestion? |
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::Often the responder posts to the questioner's talk page, out of politeness. For longer discussions, it's helpful to use liquid threads, an extension we could turn on - that should let you subscribe to a single thread. --[[User:Sj|Sj]] [[User talk:Sj|<font style="color:#f70; font-size:70%">talk</font>]] 16:26, 8 September 2010 (UTC) |
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:::So how do liquid threads work? Does it use the <nowiki>::</nowiki> notation to detect a thread? I think it could be very useful for people in general. I would think that during a deployment you might come up with all sorts of questions that you fire off on different wiki talk pages and you are probably so busy solving problems its difficult to manage all the Q&A you are processing... so if liquid threads can help then lets consider it. Who would be involved in that decision? Do you know what the other implications are... i.e. if there are any down sides to turning liquid threads on? |
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::::Great. Thanks. I'll take a look. Get back to you tomorrow with thoughts. |
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:::So how do liquid threads work? Does it use the <nowiki>::</nowiki> notation to detect a thread? I think it could be very useful for people in general. I would think that during a deployment you might come up with all sorts of questions that you fire off on different wiki talk pages and you are probably so busy solving problems its difficult to manage all the Q&A you are processing... so if liquid threads can help then lets consider it. Who would be involved in that decision? Do you know what the other implications are... i.e. if there are any down sides to turning liquid threads on? |
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:::: See http://strategy.wikimedia.org for a site that uses them extensively. Once a talk page is converted to liquid threads, you can't convert back without 'losing' the link to the threads that were created. --[[User:Sj|Sj]] [[User talk:Sj|<font style="color:#f70; font-size:70%">talk</font>]] 17:03, 8 September 2010 (UTC) |
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::::Great. Thanks. I'll take a look. Get back to you tomorrow with thoughts. --[[User:Mark.Burnett|Mark.Burnett]] 17:07, 8 September 2010 (UTC) |
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::::: I just had a look. It looks much more intuitive as well as being more functional. I think we should turn it on. What do you think? What next? <--- I proposed this on the Cafe. Please add your comments there. --[[User:Sj|Sj]] [[User talk:Sj|<font style="color:#f70; font-size:70%">talk</font>]] 20:52, 11 September 2010 (UTC) |
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:::::: Thanks for starting the ball rolling on the cafe. I see it has several entries now already. I've added my views from a functional perspective but do need to rely on you and others to confirm that it technically makes sense. Thanks for your help Sj. |
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== Review of approach and updates to the wiki == |
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Hi Sj, As you know I am working on [[Improving the Deployment Toolkit]]. As part of this I think its important that what is done here is repeatable, so I have also created a [[Deployment Guide/Creating a new release]] process, which I plan to follow and evolve during the course of this project with the idea being that others could then do the same the next time there are enough new lessons learned, or enough new XO technology to merit another refresh of the guide. For the same reason I am also creating pages for [[Improving the Deployment Toolkit/Interview scripts|Interview scripts]] to help people working on refreshing the guides get the most out of the lessons learned in the field. |
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It would be useful to have one or two people within OLPC who I could use as a sounding board to sanity check that what I am doing makes sense and also to review new content added to the wiki or plans for restructuring as described in the [[Draft Deployment Guide]] before we finally take all of that and create a new version of the Google Doc. |
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From your role as described on your wikipedia talk page, it seems like you should be one of those people. Do you agree? Do you have time? And can you suggest anyone else? |
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-- [[User:Mark.Burnett|Mark.Burnett]] 12:53, 12 September 2010 (UTC) |
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== You're welcome, but I should be thanking you == |
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since I was his major target. Though who knows how many others would eventually get the same treatment. |
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-- [[User:Davewa|Davewa]] 20:10, 27 September 2010 (UTC) |
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== Defending == |
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Hello. Thank you for your work on the Wiki in the past. Please note [[User_talk:Quozl#Defending]] and comment if you wish. Speculating: don't know if the new accounts are actually passing captcha and e-mail verification, or if something is amiss. --[[User:Quozl|Quozl]] 07:11, 9 August 2013 (UTC) |
Latest revision as of 07:12, 9 August 2013
For teamwiki account access, please add a request at OLPC:Requests for permissions (the #Teamwiki requests section below is now deprecated). Thanks! --Sj leave me a message 14:55, 29 January 2008 (EST)
Older stuff : 2007 | 2008 | ...
Interwiki to meta-languages... wikipedia
8-10 wikilinks
http://dev.laptop.org/~cjb/enwiki/8k-10k-diff and w:user:sj/en-g1g1 and [1].
Unu Enciklopedio Por Junulo
How much interest has there been in your Esperanto OEPC effort? I'm willing to offer what little help I can, so if you have anything in particular that needs to be done, just say the word.
I was also thinking a Project Page on Vikipedio like the one that the English Wikipedia has, would be useful. --Tomas SATIRLSEY
hey! let's have coffee....
Hi sj -- my friend Delisile mentioned you were working here, and I just haven't gotten around to saying "hello"
I'm now the director of the Cambridge Peace Commission, and I'd love to catch up -- and see if there are any areas for collaboration or working together. My schedule is pretty flexible, and I'm happy to come to Kendall....
Peace, Brian (Bcorr 00:16, 12 September 2008 (UTC))
- Sorry about the delay -- was in Philadelphia for a few days. What about Dado Tea on Church St. in Harvard Sq.? I could do it next Monday or Tuesday morning (9/22 or 9/23) or the following week any morning except Wednesday .... Bcorr 14:45, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
Thank you
Thank you for your welcome message. Greetz JoGnet 17:15, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
user rename
I just noticed this:
(User rename log); 17:31 . . Sj (Talk | contribs) (has renamed User:Fucking idiot to User:Fid: 10 edits. Reason: )
"Fid" is a nice username. It's a shame to make it unavailable. If you must rename, something like u154970135 would be a good choice.
IMHO there is no need though, since nobody is going to go digging through the list of users.
72.40.45.79 18:14, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
hi SJ,
Honestly, I was never an admin at NWE, so it'll be new. I just made templates or fixed templates that wasn't working. For vandalism, I could check recent changes and catch one, or if you are developing a bot, I can vandalize on purpose to see if the bot will catch it. Am I already an admin now? It'll be great if you can post me something like welcome to OLPC but for admins so I could read how to use my powers :P. --Hiro 12:19, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
- Hi SJ, ok no problem. Is there something specific you will like for me to work on? I wish the main page could be changed to be more... easily viewed instead of bunch of links, but I wouldn't be able to design it from scratch. Just thought I'll throw in the idea. Are there pages that need clean up or with broken templates? Feel free to let me know. --Hiro 17:17, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
- Hi again, is this a vandalism or is it there on purpose? Special:Contributions/201.221.32.126 I'm talking about what this user did btw. Is there a specific place I could report all this? --Hiro 18:34, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
- Ping :) --Hiro 17:58, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
- Hi again, is this a vandalism or is it there on purpose? Special:Contributions/201.221.32.126 I'm talking about what this user did btw. Is there a specific place I could report all this? --Hiro 18:34, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
Hi SJ!
I'm Prakhar Agarwal. I recently took my GRE exam to pursue Master's in US. I was really waiting for my certificate. I have to send a copy of that certificate to many universities. I wish if I could talk to you regarding that. Cheers! -- Prakhar 14 September 2008
wiki adminship
this was a surprise, cuz I didn't know I'd been nominated. the wiki admin pages are the only parts of the wiki that I usually ignore! i'll strive to use my new powers for truth, justice adn the American OLPC way ;-) AuntiMame 00:15, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
en alianza - in py
Re game jam Peru
sure, I can come..pls see your email! User:RafaelOrtiz
Bot account created
User:AuntieMameBot created. AuntiMameBot 23:55, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
TOC/heading question
On a page like Sugar Almanac in a section like Sugar Almanac#Package: sugar how would we link to the headings on Sugar.env? --erikb
- I'm not sure quite what you want to do. The TOC comes from the {{Sugar Almanac TOC}} template... which is long and can't easily be compressed into that three-line section for the sugar Package. Can you explain which headings you want to link to? the same ones that are currently in Sugar Almanac#Package: sugar, but with a different format? --Sj talk 22:26, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
I would like to create a new TOC which can list the headings on different pages. For example, in this new TOC, I would like to list all of the subheadings on linked-to pages.
Can I provide a TOC with a list of pages and have the wiki automatically list the subheadings on those pages? We would like to see all of the Almanac's answered questions on one page.
Any ideas or pointers? Thanks -- jedierikb
Hello
I am new to the OLPC wiki. I was assigned to prepare a Deployment guide for OLE Nepal. I created the page but I don't know if it meets the standards of the OLPC wiki. Could you take a look and leave suggestions at the talk page. Thank you. Pradosh 05:36, 22 October 2008 (UTC) http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLE_Nepal:_Deployment_guide
Checking up
Hi SJ,
I recently made an application for some development laptops through the contributors' program, which I understand was approved. I was hoping to get started soon and just wanted to check if the laptops have been sent and if not when I could expect them.
Thanks,
Gerry Healy
I'll be leaving Nepal in June 2009 so I have some time constraints to work on the Dhading project. I have had delays at my own end also, but for it to be realistic in this time frame. I need some development machines soonish. I may be able to borrow some from OLE. Would that be a better option? Nickel chrome 11:03, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
- There's no problem getting them from us -- check back next week on the status of your machines. You might consider applying for a Nepali contributors-pool as well. 24.61.14.99 20:27, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
Health Content Poster
Hello SJ,
Not sure if this is already taken care of, but I'm writing about the health content poster post in the Art Wanted section. If you're still looking for contributors/helpers, please let me know. I'll be glad to help.
Best wishes,
--Gabriel --98.217.72.125 21:20, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
Bundles vs. collections
These days there are
- Activities, .xo files which show up in the Home view
- Collections, .xol files which show up in the OLPC Library.
So I think Category:Activity_bundle should only be for the .xo file put on wiki.laptop.org , not for the wiki page it comes from.
I'm not sure what Category:Bundles is for.
Also, Category:Activity_bundle says:
- Activites that provide a .xo bundle should declare so ...
but I thought all Activities provide a .xo file.
- If you define it that way, then this is true. That's probably clean; it leaves items such as individual etoys projects in limbo until they are packaged.
BTW, I'm adding all Collections I find to Category:Collections and it seems other categorizations of them are redundant.
- Which other categoriations? That category should itsefl be in Category:Bundles. Thanks for the update! --Sj talk 18:52, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
??! -- skierpage 11:33, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
in case you miss it in chat
[2] :) -- phoebe
Decisions about Projects
The workflow for new projects is not clear to me. Who decides about a project and how often? AFAIC decisions are made on weekly meetings, but my project has not been touched in the projectdb for 5 weeks. And why are projects hidden in the projectdb? If there is nothing happening for weeks someone else might submit a similar project, or even the same. This is a duplication of work for both the submitters and the decision makers. Is there a way to make the process more transparent? --Cwickert 14:09, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
- the plan is to move the whole thing, minus the sharing of address/phone info at the end, to the wiki and projects page. --Sj talk 14:42, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
Communication
What are the official channels for development related communication? #olpc and #olpc-help were not very helpful because noone was able to answere my questions. #olpc-devel is orphaned. Also I wonder if editing wiki pages is a good way for direct one on one communication. Isn't there something else if I wanted to reach you? --Cwickert 14:09, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
- You can use #olpc-devel in irc.oftc.net -- that just chanegd irc networks. 24.61.14.99 20:25, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
Postal address
Please mention yours on your page - not everyone has email. Thanks!! --Arjs 14:11, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
Activity web pages vs. Projects/ subpages
Hey sj, as I wrote devel@lists.laptop.org I wrote Maintaining activity web information.
If activities remain on w.l.o and use the [Edit with form], anyone can make a lists of activities that stays up-to-date instead of messing with templates and fragments and transclusions. See Activity queries. To me, this is clearly the way forward.
But there's a lot of stuff I don't understand.
- Many activities also have an Activities/Name page that's got an ugly summary template. Often it's a link to Projects/Name, e.g. Activities/Etoys. I believe these are confusing and redundant. Can I delete them? If not, is there an explanation of what these pages are for?
- Creating an activity has buttons to Create activity summary and [Create an activity]. I don't understand why there are two buttons and I don't think either is an appropriate template for an activity. What should an activity's page look like?
- Some of the Projects/ subpages aren't activities, e.g. Projects/Translation_dictionary is a collection. What are/were you trying to achieve with Projects/ subpages? I see references to a projects DB, is there such a thing?
- If you want to make a list of projects e.g. on the Projects page, semantics are the way to do it.
- So I'm not sure if all the project template machinery is redundant. I don't know whether to mark it obsolete or update it to set semantic properties.
- Is any clean-up and improvement on w.l.o irrelevant if activities are moving to sugarlabs.org ?!
Like so many areas on wiki.laptop.org, I see the results of an idea but not the plan for it, so I'm not sure how to improve on it.
Thanks for any elucidation!
-- skierpage 00:08, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
Mail of Jan 30, 2009
Please be so kind as to answer to the mail I sent you on January 30th, 2009.
--Cwickert 15:43, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
User_talk: page message notifications
Hi Sj, I'm having trouble finding information on the implementation of the notification service that generates a orange-spanned message on my current page when a new message on my talk page is saved. Any pointers would be appreciated.
I'm actually thinking about this in relation to a possible utility to generate small message flags that would appear on main pages on the border of sections that have corresponding talk_page comments (configured by the commenter to match an anchor placed on the main page section.) --FGrose 00:51, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
Your OLPC Map on Google Maps, how do we collaborate in it?
I wanted to but couldn't figure out how to add the location of The Elaine and Nicholas Negroponte School Location of School Province:Preah Vihear District:Rôvieng Commune:Rôssmei Village:Trâpeang http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Cambodia My father is visiting my wife's (she's an adopted Cambodian living in Brussels Belgium) Parents. My father created www.lzg.be - Teachers without Frontiers and I'm on the pay-roll of http://www.olpceu.org/content/aboutus/aboutus_staff.html] - http://www.olpco2e.org --SvenAERTS 09:45, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
Invitation/Brandeis/Social Justice and Technology Conference
Dear Mr. Klein,
Charles Nesson suggested I be in touch with you. The International Center for Ethics, Justice, and Public Life at Brandeis University is hosting a conference called TMI (Too Much Information): Social Justice in the Age of Facebook on September 10 and 11, 2009. We would like to invite you to speak at the main session on September 11 from 9-11 am, "Does Digital Deepen the Divide?" We believe that you, with your role at One Laptop Per Child, would present a unique and valuable perspective on the question of technological access for children internationally, and whether access to new technologies and computers helps bridge the divides among individuals and societies, or whether it increases the gaps.
I would love to talk to you further about this conference and give you additional detail. Can you contact me at sgwilson@brandeis.edu? I look forward to speaking with you soon.
Best, Stephanie Gerber Wilson, PhD Brandeis University sgwilson@brandeis.edu
Template:test-case-query question
Greetings SJ,
I'm slowly getting familiar with semantic+mediawiki in an effort to determine if this will meet my needs. I'm using the laptop.org QA pages as a reference for sample queries, forms and templates. However, I'm stuck trying to understand a particular problem where mediawiki will not expand a nested template properly using the {{fullurl:...}} parser function.
As one of the original authors of the Template:Add-test-result and Template:Test-case-query pages, I thought you might have insight to this mediawiki-ism. This is likely a new-user problem, but any experiences you can share around the SMW implementation for laptop.org would be appreciated. You can see the page that currently is presenting difficulty at https://publictest6.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Testing_SMW. I can be reached at jlaska AT fedoraproject DOT org. I hope to hear from you soon :)
Thanks, James
- I don't think you can embed parser functions the way you were trying to. But the extension is coming along quickly - you should drop a question at the SMW central wiki for the most accurate answer. --Sj talk 05:40, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
Everything works again
Thank you, dear Samuel and OLPC-Team --Papillon 20:34, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
Counter does not work
Since Saturday 8/1/09 the counter does not work. Now it is not possible to see how many users has been accessed the pages. I’m not sure but I think all pages have the same problem --Papillon 10:43, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
OLPCO2e, et al
Hi Sven,
I was cleaning up the wiki this morning and found all of the CO2 pages, which blossomed over the spring. There were about 12 pages which all had the same content, ... so I merged them (without the use of any gang :) into OLPCO2e. Sj talk 13:00, 8 December 2009 (UTC) I cannot find the page: OLPCO2e link Agenda 21 anymore. How can I recuperate it? It is a very important page for all in OLPC and OLPCO2e. Thanky--SvenAERTS 11:20, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
I also replied - but on my talk page - on your other paragraphs. This tool notifies you of that or do I just have to mention and you go there and have a look then or I have to do like above and copy/paste parts- topic per topic - to copy/paste here in your User talk page? Do I have to Watch this page? How are these "message" alerts being activated? Ty --SvenAERTS 11:20, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
Adminship thanks
thanks for the nomination. Whatever happens, I'll try and behave to expectations... --Martinlanghoff 14:26, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
Why did you move Academic Papers, SJ?
I don't believe we discussed that. As the one who started that page, I'd like to know. Thanks. Yamaplos 02:56, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
- It was duplicating half of its refs with the other assessments/research page. I moved both of them to a new title where they were merged. Feel free to subdivide in some logical fashion, as long as the duplication of records/papers is resolved cleanly. --Sj talk 21:52, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks, Ed Cherlin tried already, and we ended up with some stuff getting moved to Sugarlabs. IMHO it's better to have things mostly together. Hopefully something really good shows up eventually that we can really wave as a banner. I'm waiting for Nepal's research, hopefully soon (announced for August)
Information case studies
Searching for FAQ. Was it easy? How do we identify frequent users, and how do we service them better?
- How do we take advantage of having everything here?
Related topics. Policies and guidelines for our official material.
Menu system for officially monitored pages. (not just categories - Lynn)
--Sj talk 19:20, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
Parent Education Course Writer's Guide
Are you interested in parent education courses for the OLPC? I'm about to release my book in Germany (print on demand) and would allow inclusion of the second edition into an OLPC distribution or library, but currently not yet under Creative Commons Attribution/Share-Alike. The first edition is available under Creative Commons Attribution/Share-Alike, though. --Bernhard Fastenrath 13:15, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
- What a lovely idea! I would love to add this to a collection of books (preferably available in html...). --Sj talk 09:44, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
- I can offer wiki format and XSL-FO. Conversion to HTML and PDF should be trivial. Help yourself. --Bernhard Fastenrath 11:35, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
- I'm still working on the translation of the latest version to English. I'll let you know when the translation is available. --Bernhard Fastenrath 12:39, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
- The translation of the free version is finished and you can find it on Wikibooks. I've added some more content from the published version. The published version will be available on request (but the translation isn't finished yet). --Bernhard Fastenrath 14:15, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
- I'm still working on the translation of the latest version to English. I'll let you know when the translation is available. --Bernhard Fastenrath 12:39, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
- I can offer wiki format and XSL-FO. Conversion to HTML and PDF should be trivial. Help yourself. --Bernhard Fastenrath 11:35, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
note from user:mmassey
I'd like to meet tomorrow am to brainstorm action items for locating existing photos.
-Mike
Photo meeting
SJ, Let's meet tomorrow to discuss strategy for locating existing photos. -Mike
Spam
“How to Convert video to iPhone 4 on MAC” is an ad, and has nothing to do with OLPC or XO. ■ NeoAmsterdamTalkEdits2010-07-01T11:16:25Z
- I agree. I deleted it before. This time I shall remove the text of the page and protect it. SJ: I've no idea if there is a better thing to do. --Quozl 22:37, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
Note from user:GJavetski
Finally getting how this works! Just updated my talk page to include a summary of my remaining time (what a silly phrase) at OLPC. Thanks again for your help!
Collab Conundrum
Hi Sj. I just answered your question on my talk page, which reminded me of a wiki collaboration conundrum I was thinking about earlier that maybe you can help with. Presumably the only way you would know I replied to your question is either if you watch my talk page, in which case you also get emailed whenever anyone else talks to me, which you may not want, or to remember to go back and check. This works fine for small numbers of conversations, but I am preparing to look across the whole wiki and may want to talk to all sorts of people. Are you aware of any ways of doing this that allow email updates but keep it relevant to the conversations I am in? The only way I can think of at the moment is to invite people in to my talk page and hold all the conversations there. Do you have a better suggestion?
- Often the responder posts to the questioner's talk page, out of politeness. For longer discussions, it's helpful to use liquid threads, an extension we could turn on - that should let you subscribe to a single thread. --Sj talk 16:26, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
- So how do liquid threads work? Does it use the :: notation to detect a thread? I think it could be very useful for people in general. I would think that during a deployment you might come up with all sorts of questions that you fire off on different wiki talk pages and you are probably so busy solving problems its difficult to manage all the Q&A you are processing... so if liquid threads can help then lets consider it. Who would be involved in that decision? Do you know what the other implications are... i.e. if there are any down sides to turning liquid threads on?
- Great. Thanks. I'll take a look. Get back to you tomorrow with thoughts.
- So how do liquid threads work? Does it use the :: notation to detect a thread? I think it could be very useful for people in general. I would think that during a deployment you might come up with all sorts of questions that you fire off on different wiki talk pages and you are probably so busy solving problems its difficult to manage all the Q&A you are processing... so if liquid threads can help then lets consider it. Who would be involved in that decision? Do you know what the other implications are... i.e. if there are any down sides to turning liquid threads on?
- See http://strategy.wikimedia.org for a site that uses them extensively. Once a talk page is converted to liquid threads, you can't convert back without 'losing' the link to the threads that were created. --Sj talk 17:03, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
- Great. Thanks. I'll take a look. Get back to you tomorrow with thoughts. --Mark.Burnett 17:07, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
- I just had a look. It looks much more intuitive as well as being more functional. I think we should turn it on. What do you think? What next? <--- I proposed this on the Cafe. Please add your comments there. --Sj talk 20:52, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks for starting the ball rolling on the cafe. I see it has several entries now already. I've added my views from a functional perspective but do need to rely on you and others to confirm that it technically makes sense. Thanks for your help Sj.
- I just had a look. It looks much more intuitive as well as being more functional. I think we should turn it on. What do you think? What next? <--- I proposed this on the Cafe. Please add your comments there. --Sj talk 20:52, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
- So how do liquid threads work? Does it use the :: notation to detect a thread? I think it could be very useful for people in general. I would think that during a deployment you might come up with all sorts of questions that you fire off on different wiki talk pages and you are probably so busy solving problems its difficult to manage all the Q&A you are processing... so if liquid threads can help then lets consider it. Who would be involved in that decision? Do you know what the other implications are... i.e. if there are any down sides to turning liquid threads on?
- Often the responder posts to the questioner's talk page, out of politeness. For longer discussions, it's helpful to use liquid threads, an extension we could turn on - that should let you subscribe to a single thread. --Sj talk 16:26, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
Review of approach and updates to the wiki
Hi Sj, As you know I am working on Improving the Deployment Toolkit. As part of this I think its important that what is done here is repeatable, so I have also created a Deployment Guide/Creating a new release process, which I plan to follow and evolve during the course of this project with the idea being that others could then do the same the next time there are enough new lessons learned, or enough new XO technology to merit another refresh of the guide. For the same reason I am also creating pages for Interview scripts to help people working on refreshing the guides get the most out of the lessons learned in the field.
It would be useful to have one or two people within OLPC who I could use as a sounding board to sanity check that what I am doing makes sense and also to review new content added to the wiki or plans for restructuring as described in the Draft Deployment Guide before we finally take all of that and create a new version of the Google Doc.
From your role as described on your wikipedia talk page, it seems like you should be one of those people. Do you agree? Do you have time? And can you suggest anyone else?
-- Mark.Burnett 12:53, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
You're welcome, but I should be thanking you
since I was his major target. Though who knows how many others would eventually get the same treatment. -- Davewa 20:10, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
Defending
Hello. Thank you for your work on the Wiki in the past. Please note User_talk:Quozl#Defending and comment if you wish. Speculating: don't know if the new accounts are actually passing captcha and e-mail verification, or if something is amiss. --Quozl 07:11, 9 August 2013 (UTC)