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== Report ==
== Report ==
''OLPCafé - Brussels 18h-22h''


To start the report, maybe you want to checkCheck: [[Next OLPCafé Preparations Suggestions Topics]] and copy/paste part of it here ...

=== Invitation ===
Dear OLPC Friends,
Dear OLPC Friends,


Following the success of last Thursday event, we have decided to move into a different place with wifi, chairs and laptops for everybody:-)
Following the success of previous "OLPCafé", we decided to move into a different place with wifi, chairs and laptops for everybody:-)

The place is in Rue du Luxembourg, 3 - B1000 Brussels
5th floor - (... Delegation to the EU ... )


We met at:
'''The place is in Rue du Luxembourg, 3 - B1000 Brussels
5th floor - (Swedish Delegation to the EU ... )
'''
[http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=brussels,+rue+du+luxembourg+3&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=31.839416,73.476563&ie=UTF8&ll=50.840466,4.366705&spn=0.001579,0.004646&t=h&z=18]
[http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=brussels,+rue+du+luxembourg+3&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=31.839416,73.476563&ie=UTF8&ll=50.840466,4.366705&spn=0.001579,0.004646&t=h&z=18]


always at 6 o'clock, don't forget to:
started as always at 18 o'clock.

- Bring your laptop if you have one!
- Bring a 4GB USB stick (or at least >1GB)
- Bring a printout of the smoketest
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/1_hour_smoke_test
- The mission this Thursday: setup the latest Sugar-on-a-Stick (rawhide) image and run through a smoketest with it.


== Add at will / Voeg maar toe / ajoutez à volonté / full doch aus ==
== Add at will / Voeg maar toe / ajoutez à volonté / full doch aus ==
=== Location ? ===

1. Suggestion: [http://www.panoramio.com/photo/19965382 Café/Taverne "Manneken Pis"] accross "Manneken Pis" of course: [http://goudengids.truvo.be/detailssearch.ds?detailsListingId=nl_BE_YP_FREE_2581590_0000_468006_7545_00000 LieveVrouwBroers Straat 33], Rue Des Carmes corner with Stoofstraat = Street where is Manneken Pis, pub accross has a 1st floor with plusg and wifi and normally not a lot of people ... at 500 m walking distance of the Central Station... follow the arrows to "Manneken Pis"

2. De Markten - http://www.demarkten.be/html/dmhoofd.htm : ... we can get a meeting room ... and if the weather is nice... we can also use the outside terras ... but there's some stuff to arrange.

3. http://www.gemeenschapscentra.be/ ?

4. your next ...

5. OLPCO2e gave a pitch at a think tank at the EU ... and guess what ... we touched the heart of the Representative of Tallin to the Europen Comission ... and we can use their "de-luxe" facilities ... (Giulia has checked it out with OLPC Liason Officer Isoble ...). '''The place is in Rue du Luxembourg, 3 - B1000 Brussels
5th floor - (... Delegation to the EU ... )'''

[http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=brussels,+rue+du+luxembourg+3&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=31.839416,73.476563&ie=UTF8&ll=50.840466,4.366705&spn=0.001579,0.004646&t=h&z=18]


=== T-Shirts ===
1. [[T-shirts]] Faisons une page où nous mettons qui veut quel T-Shirt+sa Taille, qui sait un jour un présent vous attendra --[[User:SvenAERTS|SvenAERTS]] 21:56, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

=== Intro Slide Presentation OLPCO2e ===
2. 20' Intro Slide Presentation OLPCO2e, unlocking the CO2e-Certificate Potential of the OLPC --[[User:SvenAERTS|SvenAERTS]] 15:04, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

=== Capacity Building for OLPCO2e ===
3. [[Capacity Building for OLPCO2e]] --[[User:SvenAERTS|SvenAERTS]] 21:56, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

=== Que chaqu'un mette le Country Box ===
4. [http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Template:Country_box Que chaqu'un mette ce "Country_Box"] dans le wikipage du pays de vacance de ses rêves, que chaque membre du diaspora mette cette "Country_box" dans le wiki page du pays de ces ancètres. Celui qui fait aura aidé OlpCO2e qui a besoin du status de chaque pays pour les negotiations avec les financiers ! Vous recevrez une surprise quand vous aurez montrez que c'est fait.--[[User:SvenAERTS|SvenAERTS]] 21:56, 10 April 2009 (UTC)


=== Preliminary Program ===
=== Preliminary Program ===
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|-
|-
| 1820h-1825h
| 1820h-1825h
| Welcome, Inventorisation Candidate Lectures & (Sub)groups topics
| Welcome, Inventorisation Candidate Lectures & (Sub)groups topics: Smoketest, Little Black Book OLPC Fundraising, Open Community OLPC & OLPCO2e Audit Indicator, OLPCO2e Intro, OLPCO2e Carbon Money for OLPCO2e
| Yr Comments can come here
| Yr Comments can come here
|-
|-
| 1825h-1845h
| 1825h-1845h
| Lecture/Presentation/or Sub-Groups
| Lecture/Presentation/or Sub-Groups
| Yr Comments can come here: [[SmokeTest]], [[www.olpc.tv Little Black Book We watched the video, creation of a "Carnet d'Addresse" et ils donnent 1$/addresse introduit pour OLPC.. we could mobilize OLPC-Community in Low Income countries and exchange a deal:
| Yr Comments can come here
|-
|-
| 1845h-1915h
| 1845h-1915h
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ciao!
ciao!


=== Location ? ===
Seems like more and more people like us ... we had following options to go to ... but eventually decided to honor the [[OLPCO2e]]/[[OLPCeu]]'s option ... they managed to work their way into the Tallinn Representational Offices they share with the Swedish Reps. Office to the European Union ... we were offered free tea and water ... electricity, wifi, beamer, sound system, ...
If you want to suggest another place or invite us ... you can add it to the [[Next OLPCafé Preparations Suggestions Topics]] pages.


=== T-Shirts ===
1. [[T-shirts]] Faisons une page où nous mettons qui veut quel T-Shirt+sa Taille, qui sait un jour un présent vous attendra --[[User:SvenAERTS|SvenAERTS]] 21:56, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

=== Intro Slide Presentation OLPCO2e ===
2. 20' Intro Slide Presentation OLPCO2e, unlocking the CO2e-Certificate Potential of the OLPC --[[User:SvenAERTS|SvenAERTS]] 15:04, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

=== Capacity Building for OLPCO2e ===
3. [[Capacity Building for OLPCO2e]] --[[User:SvenAERTS|SvenAERTS]] 21:56, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

=== Que chaqu'un mette le Country Box ===
4. [http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Template:Country_box Que chaqu'un mette ce "Country_Box"] dans le wikipage du pays de vacance de ses rêves, que chaque membre du diaspora mette cette "Country_box" dans le wiki page du pays de ces ancètres. Celui qui fait aura aidé OlpCO2e qui a besoin du status de chaque pays pour les negotiations avec les financiers ! Vous recevrez une surprise quand vous aurez montrez que c'est fait.--[[User:SvenAERTS|SvenAERTS]] 21:56, 10 April 2009 (UTC)


== Smoketest ==
Yep, my wife and the kids asked me where I had been hanging out again ... all that smoke in my clothes ... :) Who are we kidding ... here's the real story:

Our OLPCeu-Giulia asked "don't forget to:

- Bring your laptop if you have one!
- Bring a 4GB USB stick (or at least >1GB)
- Bring a printout of the smoketest
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/1_hour_smoke_test
- The mission this Thursday: setup the latest Sugar-on-a-Stick (rawhide) image and run through a smoketest with it.

From: martin.langhoff@gmail.com
Subject: Bxl testing report - April 16th
Date: Fri 17 Apr 2009 12:45:02 GMT+02:00
To: Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org, devel@lists.laptop.org
Cc: Michel.PRONCE@swift.com, Charles-Louis.DEMAERE@swift.com, Alex.WULMS@swift.com, Gregory.GROSJEAN@swift.com, Daniel.MORADIELLOS@swift.com, fhornain@gmail.com, zoobab@gmail.com, svenaerts228@gmail.com, aferti@gmail.com, martin@laptop.org, eneuret@hotmail.com, and 6 more…

Yesterday we had the 2nd meeting in Brussels -- this time at a Swedish
trade representation office, thanks to our kind hosts for the place
and connectivity.

The first meeting was mainly social, a bit of getting to know people
and going through the 1hr smoketest on XOs running 8.2.1 -- a good
first encounter with software that has already been QAd. "This is how
it looks when it works" :-)

On this second meeting we had a chance to play with SoaS on 2 OTS
laptops, as well as one XO, alongside 8.2.1 on about 10 XOs. It took a
while to get started -- the booting issues that Caroline mentions are
real, and many laptops are picky on what they boot.

Version: Soas2-200904161412.iso

Highlights:

- Sound works well! TamTamJam worked pretty well on the Dell Vostro
1500 tested.

- Pippy (behaved identically on both laptops tested)
- Sound playing was mixed -- Sequence and and Playsine work.
Playwave and Getsoundslist are broken.
- Pong is broken, apparently due to sound.
- 'Thanks' is broken -- I suspect that the code is building a
2-dimensional table that is smaller than what size() returns.

- XOs running 8.2.1 (alongside the SoaS test machines) were happily
running Salut (over a local AP) -- and the question of the day was:
how can we get SoaS to switch to Salut?

- XOs running 8.2.1 and Chat.xo had a lot of situations where a given
machine would be in a chatroom but fail to see everyone else's
messages. We developed a suspicion that it might be related to
different language settings on the various machines, but we could not
repro the problem. Is this known? There are no references to this on
http://dev.laptop.org/query?status=assigned&status=new&status=reopened&component=chat-activity&order=priority&col=id&col=summary&col=status&col=type&col=priority&col=milestone&col=component

- SoaS on the XO booted, but I don't have any further notes on this
-- it was running off a USB stick with a compressed Squashfs partition
-- not the best setup, and it was conversely slow. My plan is to get
one or two XOs with a properly installed Soas image _and_ an XO
kernel.

- There is no Record.xo ?

- Alex and Daniel were playing also with httpd-crcsync --
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Apache_Proxy_CRCsync

Machines tested

- Dell Vostro 1500
lspci?

- HP Pavillion DV 9000
lspci:
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile PM965/GM965/GL960 Memory
Controller Hub (rev 0c)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile PM965/GM965/GL960 PCI
Express Root Port (rev 0c)
00:1a.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB
UHCI Controller #4 (rev 03)
00:1a.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB
UHCI Controller #5 (rev 03)
00:1a.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB2
EHCI Controller #2 (rev 03)
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio
Controller (rev 03)
00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) PCI Express
Port 1 (rev 03)
00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) PCI Express
Port 2 (rev 03)
00:1c.5 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) PCI Express
Port 6 (rev 03)
00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB
UHCI Controller #1 (rev 03)
00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB
UHCI Controller #2 (rev 03)
00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB
UHCI Controller #3 (rev 03)
00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB2
EHCI Controller #1 (rev 03)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev f3)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801HEM (ICH8M) LPC Interface
Controller (rev 03)
00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801HBM/HEM (ICH8M/ICH8M-E)
IDE Controller (rev 03)
00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation 82801HBM/HEM
(ICH8M/ICH8M-E) SATA AHCI Controller (rev 03)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) SMBus Controller (rev 03)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GeForce 8600M GS (rev a1)
02:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or
AGN [Kedron] Network Connection (rev 61)
06:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 01)
07:09.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Ricoh Co Ltd R5C832 IEEE 1394 Controller (rev 05)
07:09.1 SD Host controller: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C822 SD/SDIO/MMC/MS/MSPro
Host Adapter (rev 22)
07:09.2 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C843 MMC Host Controller (rev 12)
07:09.3 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C592 Memory Stick Bus Host
Adapter (rev 12)
07:09.4 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd xD-Picture Card Controller (rev ff)

cheers,



martin
--
martin.langhoff at g mail dotcom
martin at laptop dotorg -- School Server Architect
- ask interesting questions
- don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first
- http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff


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Report

OLPCafé - Brussels 18h-22h

Dear OLPC Friends,

Following the success of previous "OLPCafé", we decided to move into a different place with wifi, chairs and laptops for everybody:-)

We met at: The place is in Rue du Luxembourg, 3 - B1000 Brussels 5th floor - (Swedish Delegation to the EU ... ) [1]

started as always at 18 o'clock.

Add at will / Voeg maar toe / ajoutez à volonté / full doch aus

Preliminary Program


Time Activity Comment
1800h-1820h Chit Chat Yr Comments can come here
1820h-1825h Welcome, Inventorisation Candidate Lectures & (Sub)groups topics: Smoketest, Little Black Book OLPC Fundraising, Open Community OLPC & OLPCO2e Audit Indicator, OLPCO2e Intro, OLPCO2e Carbon Money for OLPCO2e Yr Comments can come here
1825h-1845h Lecture/Presentation/or Sub-Groups Yr Comments can come here: SmokeTest, [[www.olpc.tv Little Black Book We watched the video, creation of a "Carnet d'Addresse" et ils donnent 1$/addresse introduit pour OLPC.. we could mobilize OLPC-Community in Low Income countries and exchange a deal:
1845h-1915h Food Yr Comments can come here
1915h-2000h Split-up in Sub-groups Yr Comments can come here
2000h-2015h Plenum report Sub-groups Yr Comments can come here
2000h-2015h Plenum Group Discussions/Ethical/Organisational Stuff/Next Meeting Yr Comments can come here
2015h-...h Chit Chat Yr Comments can come here

looking forward to meeting you, ciao!

Location ?

Seems like more and more people like us ... we had following options to go to ... but eventually decided to honor the OLPCO2e/OLPCeu's option ... they managed to work their way into the Tallinn Representational Offices they share with the Swedish Reps. Office to the European Union ... we were offered free tea and water ... electricity, wifi, beamer, sound system, ...

If you want to suggest another place or invite us ... you can add it to the Next OLPCafé Preparations Suggestions Topics pages.


T-Shirts

1. T-shirts Faisons une page où nous mettons qui veut quel T-Shirt+sa Taille, qui sait un jour un présent vous attendra --SvenAERTS 21:56, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Intro Slide Presentation OLPCO2e

2. 20' Intro Slide Presentation OLPCO2e, unlocking the CO2e-Certificate Potential of the OLPC --SvenAERTS 15:04, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Capacity Building for OLPCO2e

3. Capacity Building for OLPCO2e --SvenAERTS 21:56, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Que chaqu'un mette le Country Box

4. Que chaqu'un mette ce "Country_Box" dans le wikipage du pays de vacance de ses rêves, que chaque membre du diaspora mette cette "Country_box" dans le wiki page du pays de ces ancètres. Celui qui fait aura aidé OlpCO2e qui a besoin du status de chaque pays pour les negotiations avec les financiers ! Vous recevrez une surprise quand vous aurez montrez que c'est fait.--SvenAERTS 21:56, 10 April 2009 (UTC)


Smoketest

Yep, my wife and the kids asked me where I had been hanging out again ... all that smoke in my clothes ... :) Who are we kidding ... here's the real story:

Our OLPCeu-Giulia asked "don't forget to:

- Bring your laptop if you have one!
- Bring a 4GB USB stick (or at least >1GB)
- Bring a printout of the smoketest
  http://wiki.laptop.org/go/1_hour_smoke_test
- The mission this Thursday: setup the latest Sugar-on-a-Stick (rawhide) image and run through a smoketest with it.

From: martin.langhoff@gmail.com Subject: Bxl testing report - April 16th Date: Fri 17 Apr 2009 12:45:02 GMT+02:00 To: Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org, devel@lists.laptop.org Cc: Michel.PRONCE@swift.com, Charles-Louis.DEMAERE@swift.com, Alex.WULMS@swift.com, Gregory.GROSJEAN@swift.com, Daniel.MORADIELLOS@swift.com, fhornain@gmail.com, zoobab@gmail.com, svenaerts228@gmail.com, aferti@gmail.com, martin@laptop.org, eneuret@hotmail.com, and 6 more…

Yesterday we had the 2nd meeting in Brussels -- this time at a Swedish trade representation office, thanks to our kind hosts for the place and connectivity.

The first meeting was mainly social, a bit of getting to know people and going through the 1hr smoketest on XOs running 8.2.1 -- a good first encounter with software that has already been QAd. "This is how it looks when it works" :-)

On this second meeting we had a chance to play with SoaS on 2 OTS laptops, as well as one XO, alongside 8.2.1 on about 10 XOs. It took a while to get started -- the booting issues that Caroline mentions are real, and many laptops are picky on what they boot.

Version: Soas2-200904161412.iso

Highlights:

- Sound works well! TamTamJam worked pretty well on the Dell Vostro

1500 tested.

- Pippy (behaved identically on both laptops tested)
  - Sound playing was mixed -- Sequence and and Playsine work.

Playwave and Getsoundslist are broken.

  - Pong is broken, apparently due to sound.
  - 'Thanks' is broken -- I suspect that the code is building a

2-dimensional table that is smaller than what size() returns.

- XOs running 8.2.1 (alongside the SoaS test machines) were happily

running Salut (over a local AP) -- and the question of the day was: how can we get SoaS to switch to Salut?

- XOs running 8.2.1 and Chat.xo had a lot of situations where a given

machine would be in a chatroom but fail to see everyone else's messages. We developed a suspicion that it might be related to different language settings on the various machines, but we could not repro the problem. Is this known? There are no references to this on http://dev.laptop.org/query?status=assigned&status=new&status=reopened&component=chat-activity&order=priority&col=id&col=summary&col=status&col=type&col=priority&col=milestone&col=component

- SoaS on the XO booted, but I don't have any further notes on this

-- it was running off a USB stick with a compressed Squashfs partition -- not the best setup, and it was conversely slow. My plan is to get one or two XOs with a properly installed Soas image _and_ an XO kernel.

- There is no Record.xo ?
- Alex and Daniel were playing also with httpd-crcsync --

http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Apache_Proxy_CRCsync

Machines tested

- Dell Vostro 1500
  lspci?
- HP Pavillion DV 9000
 lspci:

00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile PM965/GM965/GL960 Memory Controller Hub (rev 0c) 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile PM965/GM965/GL960 PCI Express Root Port (rev 0c) 00:1a.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB UHCI Controller #4 (rev 03) 00:1a.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB UHCI Controller #5 (rev 03) 00:1a.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller #2 (rev 03) 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03) 00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) PCI Express Port 1 (rev 03) 00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) PCI Express Port 2 (rev 03) 00:1c.5 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) PCI Express Port 6 (rev 03) 00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev 03) 00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB UHCI Controller #2 (rev 03) 00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB UHCI Controller #3 (rev 03) 00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller #1 (rev 03) 00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev f3) 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801HEM (ICH8M) LPC Interface Controller (rev 03) 00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801HBM/HEM (ICH8M/ICH8M-E) IDE Controller (rev 03) 00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation 82801HBM/HEM (ICH8M/ICH8M-E) SATA AHCI Controller (rev 03) 00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) SMBus Controller (rev 03) 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GeForce 8600M GS (rev a1) 02:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or AGN [Kedron] Network Connection (rev 61) 06:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 01) 07:09.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Ricoh Co Ltd R5C832 IEEE 1394 Controller (rev 05) 07:09.1 SD Host controller: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C822 SD/SDIO/MMC/MS/MSPro Host Adapter (rev 22) 07:09.2 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C843 MMC Host Controller (rev 12) 07:09.3 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C592 Memory Stick Bus Host Adapter (rev 12) 07:09.4 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd xD-Picture Card Controller (rev ff)

cheers,


martin --

martin.langhoff at g mail dotcom
martin at laptop dotorg -- School Server Architect
- ask interesting questions
- don't get distracted with shiny stuff  - working code first
- http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff

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