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== A belated... ==
'''<big>Welcome!</big>'''

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Welcome to the One Laptop per Child wiki. Please make yourself at home; read through the [[Table of Contents]] and [[OLPC FAQ|FAQ]], and take a look around. If you need a general wiki-tutorial, [http://www.wikieducator.org/Wikieducator_tutorial Wikieducator has some excellent ones].

Some possible pages of interest:
* [[Pictures]]
* [[Ask OLPC a Question]]
* [[OS images for emulation]]
* [[Rollout and community building ideas]]

Feel free to leave me a note on my [[User talk:Sj|talk page]] if you have further questions or need help finding your way around.

Cheers, [[User:Sj|Sj]]
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Yellow... [[object store|yellow]] soy milk?

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== Notes from conversation with taxi driver 5/6/07 ==

=== Taxi driver: Math is scary ===

* Untrained people who don't know the math behind what they're doing can often build better things than engineers who know the mathematics can.
* People already know physics intuitively, even if they don't have formal education.
* When you start using math to describe physics, you start scaring people away because the math is so foreign (and besides they often don't need to know the math to do things, as noted above).
* You can't do "higher-level" physics without math.
* Therefore, we can't teach some folks physics because it will scare them away (maybe even scaring them away from the physics they already know).

=== Ian and Mel: Math is not scary ===

* There is a way to do math without scaring people!
* Physical intuition is very important!
* Math is just a language we use to describe the predictions and observations we make about physics.
* People tend to not be scared away by things they already know. If we can teach people stuff by putting it in the context of things they already know, we can be much less scary.
* We want to start with the intuition people already have about the physical world, so the math makes sense in context, it's motivated by something.
* You can start with very simple mathematics to describe things. For instance, F=ma can be translated "If something is more massive (probably "heavy" in common speech) you have to push it harder to get it to go faster." This is basically variable naming.
* After variable naming you can move into quantization ("more massive" becomes "35 kilograms" and "push" becomes "3 Newtons") and then addition, multiplication, etc. but the math is motivated by what you need to describe (in fact, a lot of math, such as most of vector calc, was created so that we could describe stuff happening in physics.)
* Sometimes you can't just try things with physical intuition; for instance, if you are trying to work with something very big/heavy/dangerous you can't necessarily afford to make a mistake, you need to find out through calculation how it will behave first.

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== From Lauren ==

Created [[Wikimania]], tho I left my notebook of what to put in it at home.... --[[User:Lauren|Lauren]] 17:29, 17 July 2007 (EDT)

== Minirelease? ==

Is there still a minirelease scheduled for today? I could kick in a simple 'shows a ruler and cm/mm grids' activity. Otherwise I'll aim for CR1. Cheers, [[User:MitchellNCharity|MitchellNCharity]] 12:24, 25 June 2007 (EDT) (Feel free to delete once seen.)

== O^2 ==
cf. [[Organizing organizing]] --> a good foundation for intern coordination.

Related todo: a mesh of tasks (existing, published), and of places to collate them.

== RE: Thanks for the wiki help! ==

: ''follow-up to [[User talk:Xavi#Thanks for the wiki help!]]''
The goof? I was lucky... I had seen the talk page in recent changes, but then I noticed a red link in the page... :)

As for [[Xoxo]] I'm sure SJ would like the extra pair of hands (me too, but SJ is the father of the beast ;) Currently, I'm torn appart between off-olpc duties and trying to make a wiki parser for automatic stats and highlights (we'll see how it works) maybe I'll have something ready for this weekend... but still, we are lacking a review on the mailing lists (although I think [[User:MitchellNCharity]] and [[User:RafaelOrtiz]] were going to give a hand... :) Most definitely a summary or highlight of the 1cc community front would be welcome (I'd really like to hear what's being shuffled over there :) Cheers, --[[User:Xavi|Xavi]] 17:57, 12 July 2007 (EDT)

== check out ben's page for a mentorship/internship ==

[[User_talk:Bnardone]] and subpages. we should ping him... [[User:Sj|Sj]] [[User talk:Sj|<font color="fc9"><small>talk</small></font>]] 19:22, 13 July 2007 (EDT)

==Hi, Mchua==
It's a good idea for me and my Korean fellows. I will have some tea time to discuss the agenda with my fellows and leave messages here in one or two days... cheers [[User:Php5|php5]] 23:09, 14 July 2007 (EDT)
:Could give me some scenario about the Manilla Jam? saying..daily schedules, how to advertise the meeting, financial information, expected attendants and so on. It had better put on the Jam page in this wiki. it may help us much. cheers [[User:Php5|php5]] 20:44, 15 July 2007 (EDT)

::The information is very helpful. I'm now writing some plans related to Curricula or Content Jam. As soon as completing the draft, i'll post it on the wiki. then, let's have some disscussion about them (those in Manilla and Seoul). [[User:Php5|php5]] 20:57, 15 July 2007 (EDT)

== Content Jam - Nepal ==

Thank you for your interest and willingness to help. It would be great if you share the experiences and contents of "Manila Jam". My irc nick is shankar. [[User:Shankar|Shankar]] 14:07, 15 July 2007 (EDT)

== Kuku Testing ==

Hey Mel - I can imagine installing python and pygame would be pretty tricky - it still is for me!!! The best thing to do would be for us to get our act together and make some windows and mac universal binaries. We'll def look into it. Thanks for setting up all the testing, and let me know if I need to do anything else. [[User:Lucks|jblucks]] 21:11, 15 July 2007 (EDT)

== team notes ==

see your talk page there for notes. [[User:Sj|Sj]] [[User talk:Sj|<font color="fc9"><small>talk</small></font>]] 00:01, 17 July 2007 (EDT)

== welcome to the mop-and-bucket crew ==

be careful with them, especially the 'delete' and block features. almost everything you do can be undone by other admins, though. [[User:Sj|Sj]] [[User talk:Sj|<font color="fc9"><small>talk</small></font>]] 02:02, 17 July 2007 (EDT)

== Testing talk page link ==

Kindly stolen from [[User_talk:sj|sj's talk page]]. [[User:Mchua|Mchua]] 03:23, 17 July 2007 (EDT)

== firefox ==

Thanks! Will do in my firefox (although I admit it, Opera has been my browser of choice ;) Now, if the [[Firefox_wiki_bookmarks|bookmarks had some bookmarks]] for the [[Google]] searches specific to the wiki, now ''that'' would be something :)

BTW, congratulations and welcome to the sysop-gang! :) --[[User:Xavi|Xavi]] 08:37, 17 July 2007 (EDT)

== Icon/Design for Review Squad ==
Hey Mel, I will be updating later today with your suggestions [[User:Delucks|Delucks]]

Sorry! I just posted this here, I will post it on my page of course, and I will go into more detail...
here are two versions of a little icon, that could easily turn into a patch, so it is essentially the head of the "X" sitting on top of the "X" (in one case, so it kind of represents feet) I think the head looks kind of like an owl(of course representing "wise" knowledge), but has room for imagination by the User..oh and these are obviously rough around the edges..

[[Image: rswith_feet.png]]|[[Image: rs_nofeet.png]]


Hey, I was wondering if you could give me a bit more info on the project, but I do have some ideas, thanks!--[[User:Delucks|Delucks]] 14:06, 18 July 2007 (EDT)

=== Logo idea ===

Hi, here's something I've tried for the logo. What does this remind you? What ideas/thoughts does it bring to your mind when you look at it?


[[Image:Review-squad-1.svg]]



Plus, I was wondering about a better and simpler naming system for the group. What about simply:
"Reviewer" for the individual, and "Reviewer Group" for the group of individuals reviewers?
Then, for detailing, you could use use:
"Kids Review Group" and "Kid Reviewer".

Is this being discussed at the olpc-content mailing list EDIT:There's no such list! Plus, I've improved the icon, see

[[Image:Review-Squad-logo-2.svg]]

and at my userpage I show how it could fit with the one laptop per child icons, plus Delucks posted his comments there, and I posted some of mine. [[User:HoboPrimate|HoboPrimate]] 18:15, 1 August 2007 (EDT)

== SoCon translations ==

Hi! Any reason why you are using <s><nowiki>{{SoCon translations}}</nowiki></s> instead of <tt>/translations</tt> and the [[translating]] 'framework'? Or is it just the result of <tt>.cpp</tt> (<tt>CopyPasteProgramming</tt>)? ;) --[[User:Xavi|Xavi]] 18:18, 18 July 2007 (EDT)

: ''follow up to [[User talk:Xavi#Re: summer of content translations]]''

:: I was just curious if it was a new idea/way on how to handle the translations or not :) I know the current 'framework' (if I dare call it such) is just a hack and that it should be reviewed at some point... so maybe this was it :)
:: If you don't mind, I'll 'standardize' it before translators get a hold of it... btw, the base code (read the 'main' page) is a bit unfriendly for translators, but that should be just a barrier for the initial setup, the subpages (or page inclusions rather) should be simple enough :) --[[User:Xavi|Xavi]] 19:38, 18 July 2007 (EDT)

== Summer of Code webcomic ==
Hi, my name's Karen Rustad and I'm a senior at Scripps College involved with FreeCulture.org. I saw under the 'mentors' section that you were interested in an open webcomic project (looking at your profile, more specifically an OLPC webcomic). I drew my own webcomic in the past and will be writing another one next year for my senior project, so I'd be very interested in this. I was wondering what you had in mind for the webcomic (a webcomic about the history of the OLPC project? an OLPC how-to? an exciting action/adventure story involving an OLPC? something else entirely?). If you could email me (karen@freeculture.org) with more details I'd greatly appreciate it!

== Re: above post ==
Mind CCing me on that and/or mentioning the art community (whatever you think would be appropriate, of course)? --[[User:Nlee|Nikki]] 02:51, 20 July 2007 (EDT)


== Media Wiki script ==
Maybe this might help ?
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Jcobbers/youtube_extension
--[[User:Arjs|Arjs]] 21:00, 20 July 2007 (EDT)

Were you able to get the scripts installed ? -arjs

== Curriculum Jam Kinshasha ==

from Eddy [[User:Em23|Em23]] 18:00, 22 July 2007 (EDT)

== preloading templates into edit boxes ==
see the top of [[User talk:Sj]] [[User:Sj|Sj]] [[User talk:Sj|<font color="fc9"><small>talk</small></font>]] 19:19, 23 July 2007 (EDT)

==Question==
Dear Mchua

What is your plan to obtain the XOs necessary for the Taipei Jam? If a few XOs are availabe for a few days for OLPC Korea volunteers, let's have Seoul Korea Jam also. Currenty I have only 2 XOs, one B2 and the other B3 [[User:Php5|php5]] 22:56, 23 July 2007 (EDT)
: Please check [[Talk:Curriculum_Jam_Taipei|here]] [[User:Php5|php5]] 03:08, 24 July 2007 (EDT)
::I am using [[XO_Korea/welcome|the page form]] which I guess you have made. If it hurts your feeling anyway, I'll remove the form. Please let me know...I just thought ''learning others' idea'' is a motto of OLPC, and ''imitating'' is the first step of learning. cheers [[User:Php5|php5]] 10:37, 24 July 2007 (EDT)
:::Thanks Mchua. I'm just afraid of being seen as a kind of odd person...cause it may seem quite strange to start writing content for each of about 100,000 industrial categories..what a scale... but i have prepared it for a long time. Thanks again for your kindness and i'm fully cooperative to your SoCon. cheers [[User:Php5|php5]] 19:21, 24 July 2007 (EDT)

:Dear Mchua
:That's exactly what i'm thinking of. Write full content first, then write workflows, and then, lastly, code them. [[XO Korea/oea|Open Enterprise Architecture]] is for that purpose; setting an architecture for maintain reusable software modules. In a few days, I will devote all my time to SoCon, but currently I'm busy meeting some Korean governmental officers; Ministry of Education so on. I am sure that, in a few days, Korea will announce that it becomes one of the first countries to deploy XO laptops. cheers [[User:Php5|php5]] 19:11, 26 July 2007 (EDT)

== review squads ==
This is a great idea - but we can't spend time doing that ourselves atm. Improving [[participate]] and [[how to get involved with OLPC]] so that children and rural teachers as well as others can quickly find ways to be involved is a good idea (though also not urgent); something as specific as review squads can wait for a while, or for an org that does this on a large scale, like a School of Ed with a children's department, or like some of UNICEF or UNESCO's education groups. [[User:Sj|Sj]] [[User talk:Sj|<font color="fc9"><small>talk</small></font>]] 00:30, 27 July 2007 (EDT)

== From Wayne ==

Hi Mel! I'll start working on the translations tomorrow (tonight in your case; I'm not in the States right now). [[User:Wing|Wing]] 10:39, 28 July 2007 (EDT)

== Review Squad Icon gone crazeh ==

Mel, hey I have made some obvious revisions, I emailed you, hopefully got the right adress, I will email you again though. Let me know what you think--[[User:Delucks|Delucks]]


== Translate icon ==
== Translate icon ==

Revision as of 17:44, 16 August 2007

Leave me a message on this talk page by clicking here. For other methods of contact (including "Mel, I need you now, where are you) see my userpage.

For old messages see the archive.

Translate icon

Hi Mel, I took a stab at the translate icon. It's kind of culture-specific, but I couldn't think of a better way to express it. If you have any feedback or better ideas, let me know. —Joe 14:10, 29 July 2007 (EDT)

Mel, I need you now

Please chat me or find my email address and cell number: http://wenmi01.bravehost.com http://wenmi01.bravehost.com/chatme/

Appropedia

First draft of the Appropedia page is up - thanks for pointing me here! Look forward to future collaborations, on OLPC and other sustainability/development stuff. --Chriswaterguy 04:56, 2 August 2007 (EDT)

Hi Mel, I'm interested to Join OLPc

Help me to join OLPC.

I'm interested in this Project and in Joining OLPC team, well especially if I can telecommute here in the Philippines. I'm also looking forward to make OLPC Philippines - Malaya Team

http://wenmi01.multiply.com -Rowen


You can text me on my mobile +639277020503

or send me an email.

Help?

I just found some stuff to review, but where do I put the review?

-Plee 22:59, 6 August 2007 (EDT)

Indonesia: Summer of content

Mel, your summer of content link doesn't work. Any other link you can provide? serenity (at) gmail.com

your brother

hi sister. mwahahahaa

We are doing something...

Hi mel please check your email inbox I have emailed you. By the way I'm with Romen my name is Timothy - Malaya GNU+Linux User Group Leader and Founder. We are so dedicated in helping OLPC. Currently we are organizing expert and student developer team for OLPC PH.

thanks regarding Measure

Hi The content jams seem really exciting! I am also very excited regarding a content jam around Measure. I will concentrate on getting in sync with my college studies for a week or so , and then Im going to definitely pursue this idea! good luck!--Arjs 16:39, 11 August 2007 (EDT)

Translation icon

What do you think of my attempts to the translation icon? User:HoboPrimate#Translation.2FMultilingual.2FTranslate_icon By the way, for what will this be used? HoboPrimate 20:33, 11 August 2007 (EDT)

Yet more translate icons

Hi Mel,

I made several more translate icons along the lines you suggested, but I think Hoboprimate's icon may be more appropriate and/or easier to read. —Joe 00:50, 13 August 2007 (EDT)

Hi from arjs

something (not really important) i was excited about. check out my user page ! --Arjs 14:17, 15 August 2007 (EDT)

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