Contributors program/March 13, 2009
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[AGENDA ITEM 1: Intro & Review Project Proposals] <CanoeBerry> Contrib Program meeting in less than 15min, right here, plz join! <CanoeBerry> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Contributors_program/meetings ... * Attempting to rejoin channel #olpc-meeting * Rejoined channel #olpc-meeting * Topic is 'http://tinyurl.com/5zj4cs' * Set by m_stone on Mon Aug 25 13:10:52 * Ochre-Yellow-13 has joined #olpc-meeting <CanoeBerry> Hi! <CanoeBerry> We should start our review of 4 new project proposals now if you can help. <FGrose> Hello <CanoeBerry> Briefly, before we dive in, they are: <anil_> hi! <mafe> Hi! <CanoeBerry> #1 of 4: NLP tools for OLPC, Meaning to Word Multi-lingual Dictionary by Ervin [ALBANIA] <CanoeBerry> http://rt.laptop.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=35617 <CanoeBerry> #2 of 4: PROJECT i-TEACH, Philippines by Emmanuel [PHILIPPINES] <CanoeBerry> http://rt.laptop.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=35665 <CanoeBerry> #3 of 4: OLPC Jericho by Sebastian [WEST BANK, PALESTINIAN TERRITORY, ISRAEL, GERMANY, SWITZERLAND] <CanoeBerry> http://rt.laptop.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=35743 <CanoeBerry> #4 of 4: Ghana olpc by Eric [GHANA] <CanoeBerry> http://rt.laptop.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=35942 <CanoeBerry> While we wait a couple min to start, any immediate questions? <anil_> for 35393 - its a univ dept (not a library), they seem to have a website - does that count as the live url you were referrring to? <CanoeBerry> Not quite? What do you think. I would prefer (and asked Pia in Australia) to create a specific page around how to borrow from the new laptop library. <CanoeBerry> In any case, mull it over and let's talk after these 4 initial reviews, ok? [Project Proposal #1 of 4] <CanoeBerry> Can we start with #1 of 4: NLP tools for OLPC, Meaning to Word Multi-lingual Dictionary by Ervin [ALBANIA] <CanoeBerry> http://rt.laptop.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=35617 <anil_> ok <CanoeBerry> Concern: do they really need laptops? Emulation would seem to be very suitable for most of this. <CanoeBerry> Their work seems great. <CanoeBerry> Perhaps they would consider 1 laptop, and work in emulation for the bulk of the project? <CanoeBerry> I'll give you all time to read, take 2 min :) <anil_> I felt 20 laptops is quite a bit to start with <CanoeBerry> Agreed. <FGrose> Do they have students selected already? <CanoeBerry> Not sure. SJ suggests they need 1 test machine. <FGrose> Perhaps stage as students come on board <CanoeBerry> Noting the Albanian team's exact answer here: "Why can't this project be done in emulation using non-XO machines? We <CanoeBerry> wish to use the lowest end possible machines, so as to make sure that <CanoeBerry> all interface functions behave properly inviting greater participation <CanoeBerry> from students in the underdeveloped world who have the creative energy <CanoeBerry> but not the tools to participate in large Natural Language Processing <CanoeBerry> collaborative development efforts." <CanoeBerry> Other opinions on this project and how we can support them? <anil_> lowest end possible machines are ok if you need the hardware functionality * sdziallas Quit ("Ex-Chat") <CanoeBerry> It would be wonderful to ask CJL for a reaction to this, as he as such a rigorous understanding of so many language issues. Ask him for a quick reaction anybody if you see him later today? <CanoeBerry> anil_ & others: Final thoughts on what we should provide and who might mentor etc? <FGrose> approve pending mentor, stage XOs with commitment of students <CanoeBerry> FGrose: machine count recommendation? <anil_> also, the timeline suggests they will use the laptops 10 months from now (i.e. after 2 +8 months of initial work) <FGrose> 1-5 to get started <CanoeBerry> 2 to start? <CanoeBerry> Any consensus please? :) <anil_> I agree, 2 to start. More on progress <FGrose> 1 for each leader <CanoeBerry> How many leaders is that? <anil_> 2 are in albania , 1 in the US <anil_> 3 in all <mafe> 4 XO will do ...3 for developers and 1 as test machine <CanoeBerry> 4 people seems to be involved. But we only have 1 address... <FGrose> mentor to sort <anil_> I'll mentor this - do we have concensus on next steps ? <CanoeBerry> Should we offer as many as 4 as FGrose suggests, with mentor clarifying all 4 addresses? <anil_> there are 3 addresses as of now <CanoeBerry> anil_: great. Addresses don't seem complete, but OK, yes, let's more on! <FGrose> perhaps better to let them handle logistics <anil_> so did we decide 3 or 4 ? [Project Proposal #2 of 4] <CanoeBerry> #2 of 4: PROJECT i-TEACH, Philippines by Emmanuel <CanoeBerry> http://rt.laptop.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=35665 <CanoeBerry> anil_: we will work on-ticket on #1 (35617) to clarify they needs, thx <CanoeBerry> Back to #2 of 4...plz read & comment! <CanoeBerry> Applying for 2 XO's over 6months. <CanoeBerry> Looks reasonable. <CanoeBerry> There may be a Philippines pool already they can draw upon locally? <CanoeBerry> But let's consider sending them 2 machines now if we have a mentor. MAfe? <mafe> ok... <CanoeBerry> Great! <CanoeBerry> mafe: justhelp push them to fix up their site a bit :) <CanoeBerry> other voices? <mafe> I will... <CanoeBerry> Then later please help us get them in touch with the existing Filipino community. <CanoeBerry> SJ can help us make contact there if nec. <CanoeBerry> Confirmed by other voices? FGrose? anil_? <FGrose> go <CanoeBerry> Can we move on to #3 of 4? <CanoeBerry> Great. ... <mafe> ok ..i will.. [Project Proposal #3 of 4] <CanoeBerry> #3 of 4: OLPC Jericho by Sebastian [WEST BANK, PALESTINIAN TERRITORY, ISRAEL, GERMANY, SWITZERLAND] <CanoeBerry> http://rt.laptop.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=35743 ... <CanoeBerry> Concerning: "Number of Laptops You Request to Borrow: 100 XO (not to borrow but to <CanoeBerry> buy (as the previous G100), our target class 32 Students, therefore the <CanoeBerry> minimum number of laptops would be 35 XO <CanoeBerry> Loan Length—How Many Months: permanent - expanding project " * sandrat has joined #olpc-meeting <anil_> seems to be connected with the ministry of education <FGrose> or is it? If ministry already got thousands last year? <CanoeBerry> This isn't the right channel for them, but if we can get them a mentor to clarify (do they have any XO's at all yet, etc) then we should consider sending them a couple/few. <anil_> so this might have bigger implications <CanoeBerry> While also putting them in touch with OLPC's large-scale deployment team to see if OLPC might investigate sponsoring this in a larger way? <FGrose> maybe they need some in Europe to develop support? <CanoeBerry> Yes. Sending them a few to DE or CH initially. Other thoughts? There's a strong chance OLPC's national deployment team will really like this project, <CanoeBerry> Should I mentor or do we have another taker? <CanoeBerry> I will mentor if nobody else. Or alongside anybody? <anil_> perhaps they might want to look into it as a bigger project than a contrib program? <mafe> this is more on a program .. <CanoeBerry> anil_: yes, we will help them via Contrib Program if we can, towards a possible larger project. <FGrose> So we test the transition pathway <CanoeBerry> OK, let's move on to #4 of 4 ok? <mafe> anil_: right it's not more on contibutor's program <anil_> ok ... <mafe> CanoeBerry: on #3 I agree that make sense .... [Project Proposal #4 of 4] <CanoeBerry> #4 of 4: Ghana olpc by Eric [GHANA] <CanoeBerry> http://rt.laptop.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=35942 <CanoeBerry> Proposal is extremely short, and need expansion at minimum. ... <anil_> I think we should point him to OLPCorps <CanoeBerry> mafe: thx! <CanoeBerry> anil_: +! <anil_> he could at least mentor a team, if not anything else <mafe> anil_: +1 <CanoeBerry> Yes. Let's guide Eric's Ghana ambitions, as he seems extremely new to the community. * _sj_ Quit (Remote closed the connection) * rgs_ has joined #olpc-meeting <CanoeBerry> Who might help mentor? <anil_> I'll follow up with him <CanoeBerry> Great! <CanoeBerry> That wraps up our 4 new proposals. [ AGENDA ITEM 2: Revising Prior Proposals (quickly!) -- 2 Malaysia Projects ] <CanoeBerry> Let's move on to AGENDA ITEM 2: Revising Prior Proposals (quickly!) <CanoeBerry> Any quick news here as we need to move fast to wrap up a bunch of other news :) * m_stone has joined #olpc-meeting <CanoeBerry> anil_: any evolving sentiments on how we can best support the Malaysia library proposal? <CanoeBerry> Loan Laptop to students and lecturers by benbas [MALAYSIA] <CanoeBerry> http://rt.laptop.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=35393 <CanoeBerry> anil_: Just a quick update would be great! <anil_> I've asked them to add their project to the wiki page, and provide contact info * sandrat Quit ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") <CanoeBerry> OK * aa has joined #olpc-meeting <anil_> but I feel their univ website is fine, as long as they add more details specific to the CP program <anil_> i.e. as a student I must read about the CP program goals etc as part of borrowing the XO <CanoeBerry> OK. Tell me when/if you believe I should ship an initial allotment as we considered last week. And benbas' other Malaysia project seem to be moving forward with mentoring too, great. <CanoeBerry> Moving on? <FGrose> have them associate with a professor as well as infrastructure <CanoeBerry> Would be great. Final thoughts on Malaysia? <anil_> not until they create the wiki project page etc <CanoeBerry> anil_: big thanks on your work here <anil_> no problem! <anil_> I'll nudge them again in a few days, so hopefully by next weekend we'll be ready to ship [ AGENDA ITEM 3: Hone our Mentoring Process! ] <CanoeBerry> Let's move on to: AGENDA ITEM 3: Hone our Mentoring Process! <anil_> I havent seen a CP post on OLPCnews. Did I miss one? We really need one for publicity <CanoeBerry> Forthcoming if we create a better story around 1 or 2 dramatic projects efforts over the last 2 years. <anil_> hmmm <anil_> Do we have any to showcase at this time? <CanoeBerry> That should be a weekend project between Hullaw, myself and anybody that can show off what we've done best. <CanoeBerry> On mentoring, here's our official agenda..even if we don't cover all points..long excerpt coming: <CanoeBerry> * Our "Science fair" garden is growing fast for springtime, watch (and help!) /many/ ongoing inspiring changes Hullaw & others sparking here -- help all worthy projects past/present/future take root! <CanoeBerry> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Projects <CanoeBerry> * Application process clarified regarding privacy/sharing options -- Title, Objectives, and Mentor Preferences must be web-published: <CanoeBerry> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Contributors_program/Project_proposal_form <CanoeBerry> * Build Awareness around our new: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Contributors <CanoeBerry> * Mentor More Projects-- Help Us Resolve several dozen Project Proposals dating from 2008: <CanoeBerry> http://rt.laptop.org/Search/Results.html?Query=Queue=%27contributors%27 <CanoeBerry> * Keep stress-testing our new CP v2.0 to make sure it continues to scale <CanoeBerry> * Craft RTFM's and email to all older/ongoing projects asking them how it's going, how we can help! <CanoeBerry> * Craft email to the many who registered over the last year expecting hardware, but failed to to complete the 2nd step applying :( [ PROJECTS OPEN HOUSE -- Approx May 15 -- to introduce Google Summer of Code ] <CanoeBerry> NEWS Flash: let's consider a May 15 ONLINE OPEN HOUSE around an far wider yet array of impressive projects, to introduce GSOC students beginning their internships. And for all. <CanoeBerry> (EG. Around May 15) <mafe> post it over also in all Social Networking sites..and blogs that we have ... <CanoeBerry> And CP project owners should consider applying to GSOC to raise funding/support for their existing projects! <CanoeBerry> Something I & SJ would like to plan out carefully in coming months (weeks!) if you & Hullaw think of the best ways to make such an /international/ event happen. <anil_> +1 on the CP -> GSOC <CanoeBerry> Do watch the devel@laptop.org mailing list ongoing discussion on mentoring etc. <CanoeBerry> Last year we had many mentors; we might even ask GSOC mentors to mentor CP projects to get them started this year. <FGrose> We can support those we like that Google didn't <CanoeBerry> Alright: monitor the discussions here if you can stand the firehose! http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel <CanoeBerry> FGrose: beautiful, agreed. <CanoeBerry> Other thoughts on stated agenda above before we move to FINAL AGENDA ITEM 4? [ AGENDA ITEM 4: "Projecting" Futurism, Local Libraries Especially! ] <CanoeBerry> OK: AGENDA ITEM 4: "Projecting" Futurism <CanoeBerry> * Several "Laptop Lending Libraries" are Right Now getting underway. Help us provide them the best ideas towards organic growth (Project Pools) by commenting here: <CanoeBerry> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Contributors_program_criteria <CanoeBerry> * Contributors Program v3.0 arising springtime? <CanoeBerry> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Support_meetings/20090301#Agenda_Item_2:_Contributors_Program.2B.2B.3B_Radical_Overhaul_Advances <CanoeBerry> * Your Other Questions! <CanoeBerry> Best News: Pia Waugh has her 25 laptops in Australia, and is trying to get her (up to 5) branch laptop libraries set up very fast now. <CanoeBerry> With web materials explaining how to jump in within a week! <CanoeBerry> New Zealand should be involved too. <CanoeBerry> Shall we wrap up our meeting? Closing concerns? <anil_> offline - Can we discuss specifics of #1? <CanoeBerry> Which #1? <FGrose> CanoeBerry: you have rights to modify wiki sidebar <anil_> Albania, US etc - did we decide on a #? 3, 4 etc <FGrose> you can decide <anil_> ok <CanoeBerry> anil: great <anil_> hasta domingo then! <FGrose> CanoeBerry: did you discuss wiki sidebar with SJ? <CanoeBerry> FGrose: yes, SJ will possibly link to Manuals from the sidebar, instead of the currently ugly link to the stale Getting Started <CanoeBerry> THANKS ALL! Til next time. <CanoeBerry> Bye. <FGrose> bye <mafe> ok ..thanks! <anil_> bye! <mafe> bye all!