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neutral discussion requested to discover |
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how general users of this wiki want |
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ideas here to be suggested and specified |
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=idea policy= |
=idea policy= |
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[http://wiki.laptop.org/index.php?title=AbiWord&diff=prev&oldid=11595 195.16.185.35] edits this wiki as if policy is: |
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this is a neutral discussion to discover |
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• NO SPAM |
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how general users of this wiki want |
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• ONE PAGE PER IDEA |
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ideas here to be suggested and specified.. |
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• NO MAKING UP NAMES FOR IDEAS |
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if a purpose of this wiki is to solicit |
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• NO LINKING FROM REQUESTS FOR LINKS and |
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ideas which may help kids use the OLPC 2B1 |
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• NO OPINIONS |
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to "learn learning".. is it doing its job? |
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''could it do its job any better?'' how? |
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?is this the official position of the OLPC team |
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or a minority opinion of users of this wiki? |
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if one purpose of this wiki is to solicit |
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ideas to help kids using OLPC 2B1 to |
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"learn learning", maybe a clearly defined |
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[[idea policy]] could encourage more ideas? |
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==no spam?== |
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are commercial ideas completely prohibited here? |
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==example== |
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are "[http://www.wikia.com/wiki/Open_company_test open]" commercial ideas any more welcome than |
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"closed" commercial ideas? clearly, spams sucks so: |
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benefit: duh |
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cost: some good ideas might not get here |
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especially if people don't have a clear |
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idea of how you define spam |
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==one page per idea?== |
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pages related to [[twext]] were deleted by |
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an [[Special:Contributions&target=195.16.185.35&offset=0&limit=500|anonymous user]], (who apparently |
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one page per idea limits new ideas to one |
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rewrote [http://wiki.laptop.org/index.php?title=AbiWord&diff=prev&oldid=11595 this page] as well).. |
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page.. links to other websites are encouraged |
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to flesh out the ideas.. |
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benefit: possible infoglut on this wiki is |
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reduced, in case that is a current problem.. |
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cost: not all such other websites have public |
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2. why be anonymous here? |
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feedback loops available.. feedback possibly useful |
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to OLPC is either lost or found, to a lesser extent, |
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elsewhere.. |
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==no making up names for ideas?== |
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[[Talk:The_OLPC_Wiki#re: about this wiki|195.16.185.35]] claims making up names is |
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1. do users prefer pages ''on this wiki'' |
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MARKETING and thus grounds for removal of ideas.. |
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to further explain new ideas that might |
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seems a little exagerated.. |
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be useful to kids, OLPC and 2B1? |
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examples: [http://wiki.laptop.org/index.php?title=Chunk&diff=13577&oldid=13261 chunk] [http://wiki.laptop.org/index.php?title=Twexter&diff=prev&oldid=11891 twexter] [http://wiki.laptop.org/index.php?title=MuT&diff=13578&oldid=13262 mut] |
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benefit: ? |
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or do you prefer ''only links to external'' sites |
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as [[Talk:Main_Page#re:_about_this_wiki|advocated]] by above anonymous user? |
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cost: difficult to describe new ideas with old names |
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==no linking from requests for links?== |
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: note: i'm not at all interested in having it ''my way'' here.. rather, i just want to learn how to be helpful.. thanks |
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aka "no spamming all over wiki".. |
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: opinion: 195.16.185.35 is right that multiple pages may be too much and that spam surely is wrong.. on the other hand, how can the public feel safe to add ideas here? does 195.16.185.35 authoritively speak for the OLPC team? One purpose of [[Home|this wiki]] is to collect free ideas possibly useful to OLPC/kids, correct? |
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there are many pages requesting links to ideas |
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that might help kids use OLPC to "learn learning", |
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but linking an idea to such requests seems futile, |
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as such links seem likely to be removed.. |
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benefit: restrains public from abusing this wiki |
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as means to promote perhaps selfish interests.. |
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(whatever that means).. |
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cost: casual users of this wiki might not learn |
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of possibly good ideas kids might use to learn |
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learning. |
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==no opinions?== |
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restricting articles to facts asserts a strategy |
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that is proven effective for wikipedia, which |
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also bans "original research".. but will "facts-only" |
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bias effectively discover new tools for learners? |
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facts may help people develop new ideas, but good |
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ideas may also result from opinions, even passions --> |
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benefit: facts-only restricts ideas collected here |
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to peer-reviewed-only "safe" information.. no need |
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to sort through "new" ideas |
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cost: some yet-to-be-reviewed ideas may not be |
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considered, even though they may effectively be |
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used to help kids "learn learning".. facts-only |
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might throw cold water on new creative solutions |
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=examples= |
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here a couple of ideas that, in one awful selfish |
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opinion, could B.) benefit from exposure to public |
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feedback using the OLPC wiki and A.) grow to be |
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a lot of fun for kids to learn with: |
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==olpcities== |
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[[olpcities]] describes an idea to provide |
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a fun interface for kids to "homestead" on |
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the OLPC network.. |
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olpcities contributed several pages to specify |
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the proposal, but the [http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Category:OLPCities supplemental pages] may be |
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removed by 195.16.185.35 |
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==wixi== |
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: there are many empty requests on this wiki collecting relatively few ideas from the general public.. might some kinda '''[[idea policy|idea policy]]''' encourage participation in this wiki, thus better collect free ideas? [[User:Duke|Duke]] 15:56, 18 October 2006 (EDT) |
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[[twext]] tried to better specify a wixi [http://wiki.laptop.org/index.php?title=WiXi&diff=13573&oldid=13370|wixi] |
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proposal for a multilingual language learning |
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interface on a wiki platform.. removed by |
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195.16.185.35.. a less biased approach is |
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now attempted at [[talk:language methods]] |
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=action= |
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[[idea policy]] or whatever you wanna call it |
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might be useful to define parameters to encourage |
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public to contribute ideas on this wiki |
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benefit: get more ideas kids might use (while |
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spending less time weeding out inappropriate |
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ideas or links) |
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cost: a moment to clearly specify how you want |
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this wiki used to collect free public ideas |
Latest revision as of 16:16, 12 July 2008
neutral discussion requested to discover how general users of this wiki want ideas here to be suggested and specified
idea policy
195.16.185.35 edits this wiki as if policy is: • NO SPAM • ONE PAGE PER IDEA • NO MAKING UP NAMES FOR IDEAS • NO LINKING FROM REQUESTS FOR LINKS and • NO OPINIONS ?is this the official position of the OLPC team or a minority opinion of users of this wiki? if one purpose of this wiki is to solicit ideas to help kids using OLPC 2B1 to "learn learning", maybe a clearly defined idea policy could encourage more ideas?
no spam?
are commercial ideas completely prohibited here? are "open" commercial ideas any more welcome than "closed" commercial ideas? clearly, spams sucks so: benefit: duh cost: some good ideas might not get here especially if people don't have a clear idea of how you define spam
one page per idea?
one page per idea limits new ideas to one page.. links to other websites are encouraged to flesh out the ideas.. benefit: possible infoglut on this wiki is reduced, in case that is a current problem.. cost: not all such other websites have public feedback loops available.. feedback possibly useful to OLPC is either lost or found, to a lesser extent, elsewhere..
no making up names for ideas?
195.16.185.35 claims making up names is MARKETING and thus grounds for removal of ideas.. seems a little exagerated.. benefit: ? cost: difficult to describe new ideas with old names
no linking from requests for links?
aka "no spamming all over wiki".. there are many pages requesting links to ideas that might help kids use OLPC to "learn learning", but linking an idea to such requests seems futile, as such links seem likely to be removed.. benefit: restrains public from abusing this wiki as means to promote perhaps selfish interests.. (whatever that means).. cost: casual users of this wiki might not learn of possibly good ideas kids might use to learn learning.
no opinions?
restricting articles to facts asserts a strategy that is proven effective for wikipedia, which also bans "original research".. but will "facts-only" bias effectively discover new tools for learners? benefit: facts-only restricts ideas collected here to peer-reviewed-only "safe" information.. no need to sort through "new" ideas cost: some yet-to-be-reviewed ideas may not be considered, even though they may effectively be used to help kids "learn learning".. facts-only might throw cold water on new creative solutions
examples
here a couple of ideas that, in one awful selfish opinion, could B.) benefit from exposure to public feedback using the OLPC wiki and A.) grow to be a lot of fun for kids to learn with:
olpcities
olpcities describes an idea to provide a fun interface for kids to "homestead" on the OLPC network.. olpcities contributed several pages to specify the proposal, but the supplemental pages may be removed by 195.16.185.35
wixi
twext tried to better specify a wixi [1] proposal for a multilingual language learning interface on a wiki platform.. removed by 195.16.185.35.. a less biased approach is now attempted at talk:language methods
action
idea policy or whatever you wanna call it might be useful to define parameters to encourage public to contribute ideas on this wiki benefit: get more ideas kids might use (while spending less time weeding out inappropriate ideas or links) cost: a moment to clearly specify how you want this wiki used to collect free public ideas