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neutral discussion requested to discover
how general users of this wiki want
ideas here to be suggested and specified

=idea policy=
=idea policy=


[http://wiki.laptop.org/index.php?title=AbiWord&diff=prev&oldid=11595 195.16.185.35] edits this wiki as if policy is:
this is a neutral discussion to discover
• NO SPAM
how general users of this wiki want
• ONE PAGE PER IDEA
ideas here to be suggested and specified..
• NO MAKING UP NAMES FOR IDEAS
if a purpose of this wiki is to solicit
• NO LINKING FROM REQUESTS FOR LINKS and
ideas which may help kids use the OLPC 2B1
• NO OPINIONS
to "learn learning".. is it doing its job?
''could it do its job any better?'' how?
?is this the official position of the OLPC team
or a minority opinion of users of this wiki?
if one purpose of this wiki is to solicit
ideas to help kids using OLPC 2B1 to
"learn learning", maybe a clearly defined
[[idea policy]] could encourage more ideas?
==no spam?==


are commercial ideas completely prohibited here?
==example==
are "[http://www.wikia.com/wiki/Open_company_test open]" commercial ideas any more welcome than
"closed" commercial ideas? clearly, spams sucks so:
benefit: duh
cost: some good ideas might not get here
especially if people don't have a clear
idea of how you define spam


==one page per idea?==
pages related to [[twext]] were deleted by

an [[Special:Contributions&target=195.16.185.35&offset=0&limit=500|anonymous user]], (who apparently
one page per idea limits new ideas to one
rewrote [http://wiki.laptop.org/index.php?title=AbiWord&diff=prev&oldid=11595 this page] as well)..
page.. links to other websites are encouraged
to flesh out the ideas..
two questions for users of this wiki:
benefit: possible infoglut on this wiki is
reduced, in case that is a current problem..
cost: not all such other websites have public
2. why be anonymous here?
feedback loops available.. feedback possibly useful
to OLPC is either lost or found, to a lesser extent,
elsewhere..

==no making up names for ideas?==
[[Talk:The_OLPC_Wiki#re: about this wiki|195.16.185.35]] claims making up names is
1. do users prefer pages ''on this wiki''
MARKETING and thus grounds for removal of ideas..
to further explain new ideas that might
seems a little exagerated..
be useful to kids, OLPC and 2B1?
examples: [http://wiki.laptop.org/index.php?title=Chunk&diff=13577&oldid=13261 chunk] [http://wiki.laptop.org/index.php?title=Twexter&diff=prev&oldid=11891 twexter] [http://wiki.laptop.org/index.php?title=MuT&diff=13578&oldid=13262 mut]
benefit: ?
or do you prefer ''only links to external'' sites
as [[Talk:Main_Page#re:_about_this_wiki|advocated]] by above anonymous user?
cost: difficult to describe new ideas with old names


==no linking from requests for links?==
: note: i'm not at all interested in having it ''my way'' here.. rather, i just want to learn how to be helpful.. thanks


aka "no spamming all over wiki"..
: opinion: 195.16.185.35 is right that multiple pages may be too much and that spam surely is wrong.. on the other hand, how can the public feel safe to add ideas here? does 195.16.185.35 authoritively speak for the OLPC team? One purpose of [[Home|this wiki]] is to collect free ideas possibly useful to OLPC/kids, correct?
there are many pages requesting links to ideas
that might help kids use OLPC to "learn learning",
but linking an idea to such requests seems futile,
as such links seem likely to be removed..
benefit: restrains public from abusing this wiki
as means to promote perhaps selfish interests..
(whatever that means)..
cost: casual users of this wiki might not learn
of possibly good ideas kids might use to learn
learning.
==no opinions?==
restricting articles to facts asserts a strategy
that is proven effective for wikipedia, which
also bans "original research".. but will "facts-only"
bias effectively discover new tools for learners?
<!--
facts may help people develop new ideas, but good
ideas may also result from opinions, even passions -->
benefit: facts-only restricts ideas collected here
to peer-reviewed-only "safe" information.. no need
to sort through "new" ideas
cost: some yet-to-be-reviewed ideas may not be
considered, even though they may effectively be
used to help kids "learn learning".. facts-only
might throw cold water on new creative solutions
=examples=
here a couple of ideas that, in one awful selfish
opinion, could B.) benefit from exposure to public
feedback using the OLPC wiki and A.) grow to be
a lot of fun for kids to learn with:
==olpcities==
[[olpcities]] describes an idea to provide
a fun interface for kids to "homestead" on
the OLPC network..
olpcities contributed several pages to specify
the proposal, but the [http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Category:OLPCities supplemental pages] may be
removed by 195.16.185.35


==wixi==
: there are many empty requests on this wiki collecting relatively few ideas from the general public.. might some kinda '''[[idea policy|idea policy]]''' encourage participation in this wiki, thus better collect free ideas? [[User:Duke|Duke]] 15:56, 18 October 2006 (EDT)
[[twext]] tried to better specify a wixi [http://wiki.laptop.org/index.php?title=WiXi&diff=13573&oldid=13370|wixi]
proposal for a multilingual language learning
interface on a wiki platform.. removed by
195.16.185.35.. a less biased approach is
now attempted at [[talk:language methods]]

=action=
[[idea policy]] or whatever you wanna call it
might be useful to define parameters to encourage
public to contribute ideas on this wiki
benefit: get more ideas kids might use (while
spending less time weeding out inappropriate
ideas or links)
cost: a moment to clearly specify how you want
this wiki used to collect free public ideas

Latest revision as of 16:16, 12 July 2008

neutral discussion requested to discover how general users of this wiki want ideas here to be suggested and specified

idea policy

195.16.185.35 edits this wiki as if policy is: 
• NO SPAM
• ONE PAGE PER IDEA 
• NO MAKING UP NAMES FOR IDEAS
• NO LINKING FROM REQUESTS FOR LINKS and
• NO OPINIONS

?is this the official position of the OLPC team
or a minority opinion of users of this wiki?

if one purpose of this wiki is to solicit 
ideas to help kids using OLPC 2B1 to
"learn learning", maybe a clearly defined
idea policy could encourage more ideas?

no spam?

are commercial ideas completely prohibited here?
are "open" commercial ideas any more welcome than
"closed" commercial ideas? clearly, spams sucks so:

benefit: duh

cost: some good ideas might not get here
especially if people don't have a clear
idea of how you define spam

one page per idea?

one page per idea limits new ideas to one
page.. links to other websites are encouraged
to flesh out the ideas..

benefit: possible infoglut on this wiki is
reduced, in case that is a current problem..

cost: not all such other websites have public 
feedback loops available.. feedback possibly useful
to OLPC is either lost or found, to a lesser extent, 
elsewhere..

no making up names for ideas?

195.16.185.35 claims making up names is 
MARKETING and thus grounds for removal of ideas..
seems a little exagerated..

benefit: ?

cost: difficult to describe new ideas with old names

no linking from requests for links?

aka "no spamming all over wiki".. 

there are many pages requesting links to ideas 
that might  help kids use OLPC to "learn learning",
but linking an idea to such requests seems futile,
as such links seem likely to be removed..

benefit: restrains public from abusing this wiki
as means to promote perhaps selfish interests..
(whatever that means)..

cost: casual users of this wiki might not learn
of possibly good ideas kids might use to learn
learning.

no opinions?

restricting articles to facts asserts a strategy
that is proven effective for wikipedia, which 
also bans "original research".. but will "facts-only" 
bias effectively discover new tools for learners?

benefit: facts-only restricts ideas collected here 
to peer-reviewed-only "safe" information.. no need
to sort through "new" ideas

cost: some yet-to-be-reviewed ideas may not be 
considered, even though they may effectively be
used to help kids "learn learning".. facts-only 
might throw cold water on new creative solutions

examples

here a couple of ideas that, in one awful selfish 
opinion, could B.) benefit from exposure to public 
feedback using the OLPC wiki and A.) grow to be 
a lot of fun for kids to learn with:

olpcities

olpcities describes an idea to provide
a fun interface for kids to "homestead" on
the OLPC network.. 

olpcities contributed several pages to specify
the proposal, but the supplemental pages may be 
removed by 195.16.185.35

wixi

twext tried to better specify a wixi [1]  
proposal for a multilingual language learning
interface on a wiki platform.. removed by 
195.16.185.35.. a less biased approach is 
now attempted at talk:language methods

action

idea policy or whatever you wanna call it
might be useful to define parameters to encourage
public to contribute ideas on this wiki

benefit: get more ideas kids might use (while
spending less time weeding out inappropriate
ideas or links) 

cost: a moment to clearly specify how you want 
this wiki used to collect free public ideas