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== 2008 Feb. 10 ==
[[Category:Health]]


=== Agenda ===
==Previous meetings==
Various people will present perspectives and talk about the work that they've been doing ensuing a discussion on the same topic. The idea for this month's call is for various groups and people to connect each other, deciding next steps, fostering collaboration and giving focus to efforts.


*[[Health_meetings/21_February_2008|21 February 2008]]<br>
After brief introductions, following are the people who will each speak for 5-10 minutes and lead a following discussion.
*[[Health_meetings/10_February_2008|10 February 2008]]


==[[16 March]] [[2008]]==
# [[user:Anna B|Anna Breshtyn]] -- [[Health_portal|Reaching out to educators to donate material]]; publicity drive; mechanism for integrating content that we get
# [[user:walter|Walter Bender]] -- One Laptop per Child, the project today and the road ahead.
# Jim Hopper -- Thoughts from Web-based "brief assessment and motivational enhancement intervention" project, which Jim conceived and is directing for another non-profit (that serves men with histories of childhood sexual abuse)
# [[user:JHehner|Josh Hehner]] -- Vision for the Health initiative and parallelism with OLPC's educational focus
# [[user:sj|SJ Klein]] -- Content focussed on prevention and sanitation; organizing people and projects
# [[user:carla|Carla Gomez Monroy]] -- Health and Learning; perspectives from the implementations in Uruguay, Peru, Mongolia *
# [[user:amitg|Amit Gognaa]] 'Perspectives from Khairat pilot project site near Mumbai, India' or Harriet Vidyasagar 'About OLPC Project launch at school near Bangalore,India and The Teacher Foundation association with OLPC Project'
# [[user:Drew.einhorn|Drew Einhorn]] -- World VistA on the XO. We are going to hit the highlights of the [[WorldVistA]] wiki page.
# Erica Frank -- Describing her team's work on the development of a database of large number of links and the work required to take it forward
# Roy Peterson -- Development of an Ultrasound imaging system around the XO at Philips
# [[user:sethwoodworth|Seth Woodworth]] -- Volunteer recruiting, collaboration with PATH, making this sustainable
# [[user:scottSwanson|Scott Swanson]] -- EKG and other hardware peripheral development efforts at IMSA
# [[user:DyD|Ian Daniher]] -- On co-ordinating health peripheral efforts; progress today and the road ahead


The conference call has been delayed. It started just now. [[User:Mika|Mika]] 13:39, 16 March 2008 (EDT)
== Minutes ==
===Agenda===
* New participants in the project -- please welcome Nand, Tom Boonsori, Adesina
* Walter Humberto Curioso joins us as an [[Health_advisers|adviser]]. About Walter, see http://faculty.washington.edu/wcurioso/
* Updates from Anna, Mika, Benjamin, Jennifer, Chris Leonard, Lia, Drew, ... (anyone else, please add)
* Is this a good time to start actively recruiting volunteers for health projects ?
* Health Jam!
* We need some sort of weekly boot-camp in which we can welcome new participants and help them get integrated into the workflow of Health projects
* What can we immediately deliver for the Peru deployment ?
* Volunteers needed for meeting minutes and meeting co-ordination and organization!


===Meeting notes proposal===
'''Please make corrections as appropriate'''
--[[User:FGrose|FGrose]] 01:51, 13 March 2008 (EDT)
*In the spirit of collaboration, since we all listen selectively and best to that which most interests us, all attendees or listeners should submit their additions on this wiki page. The moderator may simply outline the content, and everyone else should sign their contribution with the <nowiki>--~~~~</nowiki> signature.
*A few proposed guidelines:
*# Report first a summary of the discussion topic (ideas actually aired). Sign this contribution. Others may edit or submit variations and clarifications of what they actually heard on the topic.
*# Optionally, report enlargements (new ideas not actually aired) and opinions (that weren't aired) at an indented level below the base entry. Be sure to sign any such contributions.
*# Focus on filling those gaps in the notes of topics that you find most significant and interesting.
===Attended===
(on OLPC Line #3)
* Chris Leonard
* Frederick Grose


===Attendees===
===Notes===
(from OLPC Line #3)<br>

Apparently there was confusion on which conference line to use. Because a conference host was missing on OLPC line #3, it was not until 01:40 pm EDT that we got the conference line #3 open (thanks to getting the host PIN from Mika, who had no phone access).
# Mika Matsuzaki - Student at HPS, Harvard University
# Arjun Sarwal - Intern at OLPC
Our apologies to all of you who tried to attend.
# Anna Breshtyn - MIT Graduate student
# SJ Klein - Director of Community Content, OLPC
At 01:40 only [[User:Cjl|Chris Leonard]] was online with [[User:FGrose|Frederick Grose]]. We had a good chat as noted below:
# Walter Bender - President, Software and Content, OLPC
# Amit Gognaa - OLPC India team, Mumbai, India
#We talked about our limited understanding of the software and network infrastructure for enabling 'content'. I suggested we look at the [[Library]] activity as one model. We agreed that being able to tag content with meta data, like regional applicability, would be highly desirable. I believe that the upcoming revisions to the Journal data store will make tagging easier. For the [[Animal_health|Animal Health project]], for example, it would very helpful to allow communities to find information specific to their geographical environment.
# Harriet Vidyasagar - OLPC India team, Mumbai, India
#:(Subsequent thought: Wondering if there is a zoning taxonomy, like the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardiness_zone Hardiness zones] used for plants, that might be suitable for the Animal husbandry information.)
# Adam Holt - OLPC support Manager
#Chris shared the idea that we could benefit from having a template cover letter to help open the doors for recruiting new participants, especially those subject matter experts who are not familiar with the open source technology culture. He plans to post some draft work on our Health project wiki.
# Henry Hardy - OLPC system adminstrator
#I suggested that having specific projects described (like Animal health) were valuable concrete examples to attract interested recruits from broader communities. Approaching 4H chapters and agricultural extensions may lead to more volunteers who see the potential benefits. It should also be attractive to those deployments in agricultural communities (consider those confronting bird flu, for example).
# Andriani Ferti - Legal intern, OLPC
#Chris shared some links to http://orbis.org/ for potential consultation for the [[Vision_screening|Vision screening project]], and http://oercommons.org/ for review of other open education resources and examples.
# Nikki Lee - Olinc
#We talked about getting critical subject matter and project advisory help for the Health project, and decided we should publish a parallel to the 'Ask OLPC a Question' page for the Health project. Perhaps, a 'Health project advisory page' with a section for the Advisers specifically, but also a place to grow an 'OLPC Health FAQ' for all current and potential participants. I offered to draft such a page. (page since deleted)
# Josh Hehner -
#:See [[Health_project_advice_needed|Health project advice needed]] --[[User:FGrose|FGrose]] 21:39, 17 March 2008 (EDT)
# Jim Hopper - Instructor in Psychology, Department of Pschiatry, Behavioral Psychopharmacology Research Laboratory McLean Hospita & Harvard Medical School
# Scott Swanson
Thanks for reading! --Frederick Grose, [[User:FGrose|FGrose]] 23:43, 16 March 2008 (EDT)
# Kevin Crews
# Ian Daniher
# Jennifer Deobeir
# Mel Chua
# Judy Stone
# Drew Einhorn
# Seth Woodworth
# David Greisen
# Fredrick Grose
# Erica Frank
# Benjamin Mako Hill
# Chip Truscon
# Chris Paton
# Larry "Gus" Landis


'''Walter Bender''': I am Walter Bender and I've been involved with OLPC
right from the very beginning. OLPC's focus has been to provide
children tools for learning. Some people ask us that those kids don't
have food to eat or water to drink, how are laptops going to be
beneficial to them? The laptops are definitely no substitute for food
or water. However education is one is aspect that these laptops hope
to improve for kids in the developed and developing countries. Our aim
is to maximize learning that happens with kids and these laptops.
Its not about how many children, but the effectiveness of the learning
, the learning that happens 24x7. Its not just about getting the price
of the laptop down, but providing the laptop with the proper set of
features; one of the main being equipping it with the right software
and content structure.

The idea is not just one laptop per child, but one laptop per
child,family, grandparent... Our expectation is the communities will adopt the laptop
to serve beneficial purposes beyond the kids and their learning - and
we'd be happy to see that happen. Be it them using it say as simply an
e-book reader, or say just as a tool for data analysis.

The Health applications idea has definitely been in our minds since
quite some time. One of my students, Vadim Gerasimov really explored
this aspect on the themes of how low cost bio-sensor peripherals can
be used in a fun engaging way for self monitoring. On similar lines,
I think it'd really be helpful for people to think about this idea on
the theme of learning.

<question by Josh Hehner, brief reply by Walter...>

'''Jim Hopper''': I am currently involved in the development of web based
interfaces. Our focus is to look into these themes in a way that is
interactive. We are addressing domestic violence and sexual abuse. We
have a team that we have put together for this, have a substantial bit
of funding and are working with a non-profit organization that serves
men with histories of childhood sexual abuse. We ... clinical research
centers ....learn and motivation....learn..
My work in this and my involvement in this regard is what I bring to
the OLPC-health project.
The significance of the aftermath of trauma and the effects of child sexual abuse.
There are several embedded issues in that case -- several multidimensional as well as medical related issues and the implications of seeking help.
Our focus is to educate people on these issues.


'''Erica Frank''': I have to leave early, so I'd like to briefly talk about
the work that we've been doing. We have put together links that we
believe would point to some very useful information. Once can have a
look at these by going to Health Content subsection on the Health wiki
page.

I'm the Executive Director of Health Sciences Online, a
portal where health professionals in training and practice access free,
comprehensive, high quality, current courses, references, and other
learning resources (current at around 20,000 learning objects) to
improve global health. We have been working in collaboration with WHO,
CDC, World Bank, and others. We don't build content but compile it.

For OLPC, we spent a couple months last summer gathering links that we
believe would point to some very useful information for kids regarding
their bodies and health. One can have a look at these by going to the
Health Content subsection on the Health wiki page.

David Greisen: What about the licensing aspects of the content ?

Erica Frank: The materials are under various licenses, retained by
their authors/publishers -- we just spider what's out there.

Chip Truscon?: How do you take care of the translations aspect?

Erica: Most of the material is in English, but translation tools are
improving. You can already enter medical terms in 5 major languages
and get results (primarily in English). If anyone wants to collaborate,
they may please feel free to contact me at efrank at emory dot edu
(efrank@emory.edu).



'''Josh Hehner''': Hi I am Josh Hehner and I am Director of Community
Medicine Programs for a Peruvian-Canadian charity called Para el Mundo
(PaM). We work in northern Peru in the areas of community medicine,
education and social services. I am a paramedic and my work often
requires me to travel to field sites with a short notice. I have been
focusing on the Vision document on the wiki which some of you might
have had a look at,
look at it from more than techno-social project
it is important to think ways in many people will go about using such tools
lot of parallelism in in underlying OLPC's vision principles for the
educational side

Chip Truscon: -corporate influence in the US, subversion of work, vision needed
reply by Josh

needs of people , like health are more fundamental and basic than others

-a question to Walter by Josh?
Walter: community to manufacture the learning
immune system of community large


'''Anna Breshtyn''':
-flyers / messages
-EMT, paramedic
-MIT graduate student
-trying to organize in terms of curating
-folks with Hisparian foundation
-wiki structure
-health portal
-age-appropriate

She underlined the need to exactly identify the specifications and the need to be extraordinary clear about what the content should be.
Regarding the need for appropriate content for the laptops, participants should have in mind that we are talking about access to elementary schools. Therefore, there is the need to review materials in terms of quality.
SJ at this point suggested relevant projects like Howtopedia, which however refers to older ages, and Appropedia.

Josh Hehner pointed out the cases in which there is an emergency and you want to have this health-related information readily available.


'''Mika''' adds:
-planning lunches and presentations at Harvard School of Public Health
-question to everyone is to whether we should go ahead with mass
recruiting of volunteers or whether we should

'''Judy Stone''' :
-I think that it'd be better to have some sort of structure and
projects before going on with recruiting
-I will be able to connect you with some people whom I know

'''Drew Einhorn:''''
-World VistA
-most info on IRC Logs
-Grand Indes also commented in the middle mentioning that most of the
code is under GPL
-Vista Monograph
-EKG, pulse eximeter, thermometer, stethoscope
Went over highlights of the wiki.laptop.org/go/WorldVistA

*Realized it needs to be split into 2 pages.
One for Library folks interested in Health Software
Another for folks from the Develop list.
WorldVistA is a free open source implementation of VistA, the software that
runs US Veterans Administration's hospitals, outpatient clinics, and
nursing homes.

*For a list of organizations that have adopted VistA see:
http://www.hardhats.org/adopters/vista_adopters.html

For an overview of VistA and its components see
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/VistA_Monograph

*For VA training for clinicians see:

[http://www.vehu.va.gov/ VeHU], VA eHealth University training website

Select All Tracks, no Keywords and browse.

The VA removed this valuable site. It is partially back, but it's mostly just stubs. It remains to be seen if it will be fully restored.

'''Join the chorus asking the VA to put it back.'''

'''Amit Gognaa and Harriett:''''
-23 laptops pilot project at Khairat
-kids using the laptop tool very effectively
-have gotten familiar with the sharing aspects quite well now
-the focus till now has been on the educational side
- we should concentrate on health information


'''Harriett''': pilot project at Bangalore
-teachers association
-nutrition and health would be good topics to explore
-need for immunization is an area of health education for us to emphasize

Josh Hehner:
-it is imperative to think of example in which that communities would
be using this tool for other purposes too could u give any examples ?
Amit: kids use it for learning during the classes but when they go
home, they use it for recording sounds and songs from the TV and
sharing with others
Arjun adds: The parents are very excited to read the local Marathi newspapers

'''Jennifer Deboer''':
-Vanderbilt University
-Prevention and Intervention groups
-Funding for OLPC laptops
-conducting a randomized field experiment
-requests health content contribution list such as health-content-contrib@lists.laptop.org
- general discussion, desire a general health@lists.laptop.org list
I am at the education school at Vanderbilt University, studying international education policy management. Our medical center has an organization called the Institute for Global Health, which has affiliates in a number of countries and works with the local community on health-related projects. The group that works with Mozambique has an established network in one of the rural regions of the country. We are working to construct an intervention to go on the XOs that would be a health education program addressing HIV/AIDS and hygiene/infectious disease prevention. We would like to then conduct a randomized field trial to investigate the effect of the intervention on students attitudes and awareness of these issues. Further, we would like to also design the research so as to also discern the differing effects of teacher training on the laptops or different formats for the intervention. Right now, our main goals are to create an appropriate intervention and to find the funding for the machines and the research, so I would love to work with anyone who is interested on either of these necessary items.

'''Ian Daniher''':
-health peripherals co-ordinator
-working on EKG, thermometer
-funding is an issue
-

'''Seth Woodworth''':
-Health illustrations and photographs
-wiki restructuring
-need well defined tasks for people to do
David Greisen: <comment about health content>
-Seth and some other people have been actively restructuring the wiki pages

-can we have a seperate mailing list
-a tab on the left pane of the wiki page

'''Josh''': how key is this to OLPC's efforts ?Can we put it on the main wiki page ?
SJ: -definitely a key issue
-no need to wait for OLPC to think about it and decide to make it a
We at HSO have been working in collaboration with WHO, CBC and have
.... 20,000 electronic sources. We don't build content but compile it.
One of the things that we are trying to do is to include search terms
that one can use to search through the content databases.
key issue or not
-put it up on the main page to let people know this is what we've been
thinking about


'''Seth''':
-sound quality not good, need to have meetings with smaller groups
with more specific agendas
-maybe meetings on IRC

'''Arjun''': Today's meetings aim was to get many people to get to know what work other groups are doing. More frequent meetings with smaller groups and more focussed agendas would be the way to go.

===Bios===
Jennifer DeBoer:
I am a doctoral student in International Education Policy Management at Vanderbilt University. My research interests include innovation, engineering, and technology, especially for education and development.

wiki username: jumpbean (working on my website!)


=Professor and Canada Research Chair, University of British Columbia
Department of Health Care and Epidemiology, and Department of Family Practice
=Founder and Executive Director, Health Sciences Online
=Founder and Principal Investigator, Healthy Doc = Healthy Patient
=President, Physicians for Social Responsibility
=Research Director, Annenberg Physician Training Program in Addiction Medicine
=Professor and Senior Advisor, Preventive Medicine Residency Program
Department of Family and Preventive Medicine, Emory Univ. School of Medicine
=erica.frank@ubc.ca or efrank@emory.edu
[[Category:Health]]

Latest revision as of 01:35, 14 July 2008

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Previous meetings

16 March 2008

The conference call has been delayed. It started just now. Mika 13:39, 16 March 2008 (EDT)

Agenda

  • New participants in the project -- please welcome Nand, Tom Boonsori, Adesina
  • Walter Humberto Curioso joins us as an adviser. About Walter, see http://faculty.washington.edu/wcurioso/
  • Updates from Anna, Mika, Benjamin, Jennifer, Chris Leonard, Lia, Drew, ... (anyone else, please add)
  • Is this a good time to start actively recruiting volunteers for health projects ?
  • Health Jam!
  • We need some sort of weekly boot-camp in which we can welcome new participants and help them get integrated into the workflow of Health projects
  • What can we immediately deliver for the Peru deployment ?
  • Volunteers needed for meeting minutes and meeting co-ordination and organization!

Meeting notes proposal

--FGrose 01:51, 13 March 2008 (EDT)

  • In the spirit of collaboration, since we all listen selectively and best to that which most interests us, all attendees or listeners should submit their additions on this wiki page. The moderator may simply outline the content, and everyone else should sign their contribution with the --~~~~ signature.
  • A few proposed guidelines:
    1. Report first a summary of the discussion topic (ideas actually aired). Sign this contribution. Others may edit or submit variations and clarifications of what they actually heard on the topic.
    2. Optionally, report enlargements (new ideas not actually aired) and opinions (that weren't aired) at an indented level below the base entry. Be sure to sign any such contributions.
    3. Focus on filling those gaps in the notes of topics that you find most significant and interesting.

Attended

(on OLPC Line #3)

  • Chris Leonard
  • Frederick Grose

Notes

(from OLPC Line #3)
Apparently there was confusion on which conference line to use. Because a conference host was missing on OLPC line #3, it was not until 01:40 pm EDT that we got the conference line #3 open (thanks to getting the host PIN from Mika, who had no phone access).

Our apologies to all of you who tried to attend.

At 01:40 only Chris Leonard was online with Frederick Grose. We had a good chat as noted below:

  1. We talked about our limited understanding of the software and network infrastructure for enabling 'content'. I suggested we look at the Library activity as one model. We agreed that being able to tag content with meta data, like regional applicability, would be highly desirable. I believe that the upcoming revisions to the Journal data store will make tagging easier. For the Animal Health project, for example, it would very helpful to allow communities to find information specific to their geographical environment.
    (Subsequent thought: Wondering if there is a zoning taxonomy, like the Hardiness zones used for plants, that might be suitable for the Animal husbandry information.)
  2. Chris shared the idea that we could benefit from having a template cover letter to help open the doors for recruiting new participants, especially those subject matter experts who are not familiar with the open source technology culture. He plans to post some draft work on our Health project wiki.
  3. I suggested that having specific projects described (like Animal health) were valuable concrete examples to attract interested recruits from broader communities. Approaching 4H chapters and agricultural extensions may lead to more volunteers who see the potential benefits. It should also be attractive to those deployments in agricultural communities (consider those confronting bird flu, for example).
  4. Chris shared some links to http://orbis.org/ for potential consultation for the Vision screening project, and http://oercommons.org/ for review of other open education resources and examples.
  5. We talked about getting critical subject matter and project advisory help for the Health project, and decided we should publish a parallel to the 'Ask OLPC a Question' page for the Health project. Perhaps, a 'Health project advisory page' with a section for the Advisers specifically, but also a place to grow an 'OLPC Health FAQ' for all current and potential participants. I offered to draft such a page. (page since deleted)
    See Health project advice needed --FGrose 21:39, 17 March 2008 (EDT)

Thanks for reading! --Frederick Grose, FGrose 23:43, 16 March 2008 (EDT)

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