User:Xavi/Spanish POs

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What is needed

The current (back in 2007!) workflow, described in Sugar i18n is only good for things kept both in http://dev.laptop.org AND http://translate.fedoraproject.org/module/ (listed under «OLPC :: xyzzy». The dynamics of the workflow are sub-optimal, which wouldn't be too problematic if it wasn't for the problem that there are quite a few activities hosted elsewhere...

This must change.

We need to know

1. i18n
   1. split between activities that have done their i18n homework from those that haven't
   2. have access to some sort of 'master index of POTs'
2. l10n - determine for each POT
   1. available POs
   2. status of each PO (how far it has been l10n-ized)

Having the list of all POTs, we should have an idea of the different workflows and how to coordinate with the development teams how to interface them. IOW, for things in dev.laptop.org we have the Sugar i18n; what about other development teams/sites?

Currently available

Currently I'm thinking about how to get the list of all things l10n-izables...

• we have an Activities index page,
• most activities have in-wiki pages (ie: Kuku, Write)
• activity pages (in general) have their {{Status box}} (that has a link to l10n things - but ad-hoc)
  • we have a temptative replacement for {{Status box}} using Olpcboxes

general sources

Dealing only with OLPC core activities (and Fedora) is just part of the 'sources'. A sample:

Site	Root	Comments
Translate Fedora Project	Release OLPC	The place where core or base activites keep it (ie: Write, Chat, Sugar, etc)
Translations Launchpad	Etoys	The POTs & POs for Etoys
sourceforge.net	trunk/PO	News Reader
dev.laptop.org	tree	Turtle Art
coderanger.net	tree	Reversi
tuquito.org.ar	trunk	Ecomundo

Possible solution

All those things together give the following possible solution:

• each activity page will have a foo/POs page
• in said foo/POs the structure would be similar to foo/translations
  • [link to arabic po|ar] | [link to spanish po|es] | ... | [link to chinese po|zh]
• an Olpcboxes (ie: {{OBX pot}}) would transclude said page in the activity page (much like {{Translations}} or {{Translation}})

For example there's {{OBX pot}} which can be used / reshaped.

Thoughts

• PROs
  • the foo/POs can be transcluded into one big 'index' (ie: Translated pages) for fast evaluation of status
  • specific categories could be added in the foo/POs denoting available languages (thus all activities can be monitored by language)
    • for example besides stating in foo/POs links to each PO (ie: [link to chinese po|zh]) the following could be added (enclosed in <noinclude>):
      • [[Category:PO lang-xx]] — denoting that there's a PO in said 'xx' language
      • [[Category:PO lang-xx|status]] — status could be "new", "finished", "working", etc. or even "wanted" if the PO is not available (then the POs would be 'grouped' in the category page by status, or we could develop other (sub-)categories for different views - this would probably deserve some sort of template to guarantee a homogeneous and consistent classification scheme.
• CONs
  • more subpages :(
  • the translating framework (much similar to this) has proven to be a bit messy
  • the workflow is not addressed!
    • although each language team could develop their own, it wouldn't make sense to have 5 translator teams each with a different workflow because then the developers would just go bananas...
    • on the other hand, it wouldn't make much sense either to have 1 translator team deal with 5 different workflows on a per activity base...

via subpages

Activity		Repository	POT	POs
Write	1	fedoraproject.org	write.master.pot	+/-	ar | es | fr | el | pt_BR

Comments for this layout? Actually the {{/PO-write.master}} could actually be {{:Write/POs}}, iow, a sub-page of the activity page (which would make it easy to create a template for each row).

manual in-line links

Component		Repository	POT	.es.po	Comments
Chat		fedoraproject.org	Chat.master.pot	Chat.master.es.po	has a pending update #3257
Connect		fedoraproject.org	Connect.master.pot	Connect.master.es.po
Drawing Activity	2	fedoraproject.org	paint.master.pot olpc-draw.master.pot		has a pending update #3257
Etoys	4	fedoraproject.org	EToys.master.pot	EToys.master.es.po	WARNING: This is just KedamaWorld (a small part of Etoys) has a pending update #3257
		launchpad.net	LOTS OF -POTs-	LOTS OF -POs-	Wasn't able to find a 'per language' list of all POTs/POs
Journal	0	fedoraproject.org	journal-activity.master.pot	journal-activity.master.es.po
Sugar	0	fedoraproject.org	olpc-sugar.master.pot	olpc-sugar.master.es.po
TamTam	3	fedoraproject.org	TamTam.master.pot		has a pending update #3305
Web Browser	6	fedoraproject.org	web-activity.master.pot	web-activity.master.es.po
Write	1	fedoraproject.org	write.master.pot	write.master.es.po
Read		fedoraproject.org	xbook.master.pot	xbook.master.es.po	has a pending update #3257
Turtle Art	5	dev.laptop.org

dropping wiki-tables

Component		Repository	POT	POs
Chat		fedoraproject.org	Chat.master.pot	User:Xavi/Spanish POs/PO-Chat.master Chat.master.es.po
Connect		fedoraproject.org	Connect.master.pot	User:Xavi/Spanish POs/PO-Connect.master Connect.master.es.po
Drawing Activity	2	fedoraproject.org	paint.master.pot olpc-draw.master.pot	User:Xavi/Spanish POs/PO-paint.master
Etoys	4	fedoraproject.org	EToys.master.pot	User:Xavi/Spanish POs/PO-EToys.master EToys.master.es.po
		launchpad.net	LOTS OF -POTs-	LOTS OF -POs-
Journal	0	fedoraproject.org	journal-activity.master.pot	User:Xavi/Spanish POs/PO-journal-activity journal-activity.master.es.po
Sugar	0	fedoraproject.org	olpc-sugar.master.pot	Template:PO/olpc-sugar.master olpc-sugar.master.es.po
TamTam	3	fedoraproject.org	TamTam.master.pot
Web Browser	6	fedoraproject.org	web-activity.master.pot	User:Xavi/Spanish POs/PO-web-activity.master web-activity.master.es.po
Read		fedoraproject.org	xbook.master.pot	User:Xavi/Spanish POs/PO-xbook.master xbook.master.es.po
Turtle Art	5	dev.laptop.org

Incompatible with the use of '|' as PO delimeter...