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The XOcamp 2 miniconference |
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The XOcamp 2 miniconference, which was scheduled for late November, '''has recently been postponed until early January'''. Specific dates will be announced shortly and will likely be immediately before or immediately after FUDCON in Boston (Jan 9-11). The purpose of the XOcamp is to help frame our long-term software development effort. In addition, we will work on prioritizing requirements, features and goals for the next major feature release called XO Software Release [[9.1.0]] and the [http://sugarlabs.org/go/ReleaseTeam/Roadmap Sugar 0.84] release. It will probably be similar to [[XOcamp 1]] in nature. |
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in [[Has location city::Cambridge]] [[Has location country::USA]], |
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is scheduled for '''[[Start date::January 12, 2009]] to [[End date::January 15, 2009]]''', with a presentation from a Quebec trial on January 16. |
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The two days of heavy public discussions will be Monday and Tuesday, January 12-13. |
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= Subject Matter = |
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FUDcon will be Jan 9-11 See: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon/FUDConF11. XOCamp will be the week following. |
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Please submit proposals for topics to cover. These may include, but are not limited to: |
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* Top concerns and requirements of users and countries including reviews of available feedback |
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The purpose of the XOCamp is to review status of code, specifications and audience for the [[9.1.0]] release; review activity development; and frame our long-term development effort. |
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* Learning priorities and tools needed to support them |
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* Technologies, applications and software design proposals |
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Presentations will be broadcast on [http://www.justin.tv/xocamp XOCamp's Justin.tv channel]. |
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* Process and infrastructure proposals |
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* Current and needed research |
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= Agenda = |
= Agenda = |
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'''All meetings held in the Boardroom at One Laptop per Child, 10th floor, 1 Cambridge Center, Cambridge, MA''' |
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''on hold pending rescheduling'' |
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A conference line will be open for remote attendees. <br> |
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This is a very early proposed agenda : '''please feel free to edit and improve it'''! |
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Within the United States : 866-213-2185 <br> |
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Outside the United States: 1-609-454-9914 <br> |
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'''Mon ''' : Administrivia, introductions, and negotiation of a detailed talk schedule, followed by vision, goals, process, & review of current feedback |
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'''update''': access code: 1671650# <br> |
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'''Tue ''' : country feedback review + scheduled talks |
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'''Wed ''' : brainstorming + more talks |
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'''Thu ''' : more talks + scheduling/resourcing discussions |
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'''Fri ''' : summarize actionable items, publish week in review, update the roadmaps |
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'''Sat+''' : reflection for the next miniconf; thoughts for Jan's community conference |
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Live streaming from http://www.justin.tv/xocamp |
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= Proposals = |
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Propose talks below and list your name below talks you'd like to see. Other talks are being proposed by email to [http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/ devel@lists.laptop.org], so feel free to propose their instead (or as well). |
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== '''Monday January 12, 2009''' == |
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To add a proposal, please use the following format: |
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<pre>: '''TITLE''' - description - presenter [if you have one in mind] |
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||'''Time''' || Main conference room || Foyer and hacking space |
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|| 0845 |
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|colspan=2| Coffee and registration |
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|| 0900 || Introductions and Agenda Review. |
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|| 0915 || [[XOCamp_2#Who is the user and what do they want?|Requirements review and deployment status]] (Greg's notes) || Open Space whiteboard |
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|| 1000 || Future development of XOOS : 8.2.1, 9.1, F11 and beyond. || |
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|| 1200 |
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|colspan=2| Lunch, [[FUDCon review]], and demonstrations |
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|| 1300 || [[XOCamp_2#Deployment_is_Hard.21_Notes_from_Nepal.27s_Deployments|Deployment Notes from Nepal by Bryan]] || |
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|| 1400 || |
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|rowspan=4| Activity hacking & showcase |
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|| 1500 || Break |
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|| 1515 || [[XOCamp_2#Sugar Synch Up|Synchronizing Sugar and Fedora]] : features, testing, releases and related toolchains (workshop) || |
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|| 1530-1615 || [[XOCamp_2#QA|OLPC QA, now with 100% Community Goodness]] (Mel Chua, Ed McNierney) |
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|| 1700 || Review & closing comments |
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|| 1900 || Drinks @ TS |
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|| evening |
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|colspan=2| Open hacking |
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== '''Tuesday January 13, 2009''' == |
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: '''Title''' - please make this as short as possible while being precise. |
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: '''Description''' - this should be 20-100 words long. Please leave longer descriptions on a separate page dedicated to the subject. |
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'''Time''' |
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: '''Presenter'''- If you can present on the topic, include your name. If you are suggesting someone else as presenter, add a question mark after their name unless they have confirmed they can lead the session, and notify them of your interest. |
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| 0845 - Coffee & Donuts |
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| 0900 - [[XOCamp_2#School Server|School Server Roadmap and 0.6 Design Review by Martin]], potential followup in the afternoon |
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| 1015 - Break |
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| 1030 - School server followups : including moodle and content |
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| 1100 - |
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| 1200 - Lunch |
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| 1300 - [[XOCamp_2#Fedora Compatibility|Fedora Compatibility]]- Rebase on Fedora 10, F11, or CentOS? Running Fedora applications and window managers. NAND vs. SD card and Erikg's latest F10 build |
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| 1345 - [[XOCamp_2#Moodle and Content|Moodle and Content]] |
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| 1500 - [[XOCamp_2#Activation/lease/signing/image customization|Activation/leases/signing/image customization]] - timeline and testers. |
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| 1630 - Review & wrapup : next steps |
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| 1700 - Planning for future events (FOSDEM, &c) |
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| 1830 - '''Dinner''' (meet downstairs @ 1CC) |
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== '''Wednesday January 14, 2009 ''' == |
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'''Time''' |
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| 0900 - [morning free] |
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| 1000 - OLPC Startup presentation by Bryan Berry |
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| 1045 - CEIBAL Jam by Luis M. and Andres |
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| 1130 - |
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| 1200 - [lunch elsewhere] Afternoon : future roadmap discussions |
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| 1500 - Open discussions on [[XOCamp_2#Localization|localization]], [[XOCamp_2#Filesystems|Alternate file systems, beyond JFFS]], [[XOCamp_2#Performance|performance]] and [[XOCamp_2#Dealing with Low Memory conditions|Improving memory management]], led by Scott? |
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| 1600 - [[XOCamp_2#Power management|Power Management]] led by Chris |
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| 1645 - Ed Cherlin on digital books |
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| 1715 - Wrapup and close |
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== '''Thursday January 15, 2009''' == |
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=== Who is the user and what do they want? === |
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:: Summary: Overview of top concerns from deployment leads, students and teachers. An aggregated look at the top items requested. An in depth look at the motivation of a few specific requests. Time permitting, can include a discussion of how to turn user feedback in to actionable requirements. Can include a detailed "use case" explaining the technical environment and social context of a target school. |
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'''Time''' |
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::;* Reviewed 10/29 - tentative status - Yes, Follow up owner - Greg |
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::;* How much time is needed? 2 - 3 hours |
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| 0900 - Open session / new activity demonstrations |
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::;* Who can lead the discussion? Greg (Kim, Ed and Reuben also possible, others?) |
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::;* What preparation and materials should be created (e.g. presentations, code samples, other)? Presentation planned. |
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| 1000 - [[XOCamp_2#Teacher Training Competencies|Teacher Training Competencies]] - Caroline Meeks, Terri-Nicole Singleton |
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| 1100 - [[XOCamp_2#Karma - Framework to make it stupid-easy to create Activities |Karma - Framework to make it stupid-easy to create Activities]] - Bryan B |
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| 1200 - Lunch |
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| 1300 - [[XOCamp_2#John Gnu Block|John Gilmore talk & ideas]] |
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| 1500 - Possibly [[XOCamp_2#Asynchronous Collaboration|Asynchronous collaboration]] and [[XOCamp_2#Synchronous Collaboration|Synchronous Collaboration]] or open session |
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| 1600 |
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| 1645 - Review and close |
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== '''Friday January 16, 2009 ''' == |
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Status - On track to include. Next steps, ToC for presentation. |
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'''Chris Ball''' is moderating the schedule today. |
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=== [http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2008-October/020729.html Uruguay Observations] === |
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'''Time''' |
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:: Summary: Chris and I are going to spend a bit over a week in Uruguay immediately prior to the conference. I expect that we will speak about our adventures (assuming that we return capable of speaking!). --[[User:Mstone|Michael Stone]] 17:18, 29 October 2008 (UTC) |
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| 0900 - Open session |
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| 1000 - Presentation on 1 - 1 Laptop deployment (using Macs) in Quebec by Ron Canuel & 3 others. See http://www.etsb.qc.ca/en/EnhancedLearningStrategy/default.shtm |
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| 1100 - |
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| 1200 - Wrapup and close |
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= Attendees = |
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::;* How much time is needed? 1 hour |
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Sign up here if you plan to attend. |
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::;* Who can lead the discussion? Chris and Michael |
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::;* What preparation and materials should be created (e.g. presentations, code samples, other)? |
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# [[User:aa|Andrés Ambrois]] |
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Status - On track to include. Next steps, ToC for presentation. Detailed information wont be ready until after the trip in mid November. |
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# Andrius Kulikauskas |
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# [[User:Bernie|Bernie Innocenti]] |
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# [[User:Bobbyp|Bobby Powers]] (80% likely) |
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# [[User:Bjordan|Brian Jordan]] |
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# Bryan Berry |
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# Caroline Meeks |
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# [[User:Dogi|Stefan Unterhauser]] |
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# Joe Feinstein |
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# [[User:JonasSmedegaard|Jonas Smedegaard]] |
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# [[User:luism|Luis Michelena]] 06:23, 20 December 2008 (UTC) |
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# Martin Langhoff |
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# [[User:Mchua|Mchua]] 23:31, 19 December 2008 (UTC) |
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# [[User:Mokurai|Mokurai]] 19:51, 19 December 2008 (UTC) |
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# [[User:rjhatl|rjhatl]] 13:54, 19 December 2008 (UTC) |
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# [[User:rkabir|Ryan Kabir]] |
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# --[[User:Sj|Sj]] [[User talk:Sj|<font style="color:#f70; font-size:70%">talk</font>]] |
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# Tony Anderson |
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# David Bauer |
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# Marco Pesenti Gritti |
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# [[User:Walter|Walter Bender]] (in and out) |
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# [[User:Jg|Jim Gettys]] |
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# [[User:pgf|Paul Fox]] |
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# Terri-Nicole Singelton |
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# Polychronis Ypodimatopoulos |
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# [[User:dbennett|Daniel Bennett]] as available. |
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# [[User:hhardy|Henry Edward Hardy]] as available. |
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# Jameson Quinn |
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# [[User:anil|Anil Daswani]] |
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# Lucia Lovison-Golob |
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# [[User:randyc|Randy Cole]] (from Wed 1/14...) |
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= Technical Track = |
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== Software Engineering == |
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This section gives details on each talk. |
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==='''[[Distributing OLPC]]'''=== |
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::Summary: Open discussion to address the following questions. |
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# How can OLPC encourage worldwide decentralized community development models for pedagogy and the content and software to support it? |
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# How can communication between/among OLPC-the-organization and grassroots pedagogical, content, and software developers be improved? |
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# Whether and how we want the volunteer community to help us with 9.1 |
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## If OLPC-the-organizations says that we support the open-source mentality and that we encourage volunteers, we should articulate exactly what kind of volunteer support we want and need, the kind of relationship the organization would like to have with the community, and the kind of support (including support and resources that are conditional) we can provide them with. [[User:Mchua|Mchua]] 16:54, 29 October 2008 (UTC) |
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## I personally think that it is especially important to articulate the kind of volunteer projects we ''won't'' support and ''do not'' have resources for, so that community members know what they have to do completely independently of OLPC. Knowing the answer is a no is better, for planning and getting-things-done purposes, than remaining in a nebulous "maybe?" state. [[User:Mchua|Mchua]] 16:54, 29 October 2008 (UTC) |
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== Who is the user and what do they want? == |
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::;* How much time is needed - 1 hour |
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Overview of top concerns from deployment leads, students and teachers. An aggregated look at the top items requested. An in depth look at the motivation of a few specific requests. Time permitting, can include a discussion of how to turn user feedback in to actionable requirements. Can include a detailed "use case" explaining the technical environment and social context of a target school. |
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::;* Who can lead the discussion - Rafael, ([[User:Mchua|Mel]] available for backup) |
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::;* What preparation and materials should be created (e.g. presentations, code samples, other)? |
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See presentation in [[Media:XO-Camp-Usersv4.ppt|ppt]], [[Media:XO-Camp-Usersv4.pdf|pdf]], [[Media:XO-Camp-Usersv4.odp|odp]]. |
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Status - On track to include. Next steps, ToC for presentation. |
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== Deployment is Hard! Notes from Nepal's Deployments == |
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=== [http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2008-October/020728.html Forgotten or Missing Tools] === |
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Summary: |
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:: Summary: I've worked on a variety of tools or tool-like communication aids which I frequently wish were better known. Therefore, I'd like to advertise, give some demos, show off some tricks, and request some criticism, suggestions, and patches! --[[User:Mstone|Michael Stone]] 17:18, 29 October 2008 (UTC) |
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[[User:Berrybw|Bryan Berry]] will talk about Nepal's deployments with help from Tony Anderson. Will talk about tough stuff like teacher training, developing local support infrastructure, managing volunteers, and particular technical needs. |
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::;* How much time is needed? 1 hour |
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::;* Who can lead the discussion? Michael |
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::;* What preparation and materials should be created (e.g. presentations, code samples, other)? |
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* Time - 90 minutes + 30 minutes of discussion |
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=== Automated testing tools === |
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* Bryan Berry and Tony Anderson will lead the discussion |
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::--[[User:Mchua]] and/or the QA team (Kim, Joe, Frances) - what tools are being used now and where to find howtos on using them, what tools would you like to see made/improved, how should test automation fit within our develop/test/release workflow, what testing tools can be developed and/or run by the community. |
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* Powerpoint presentation will accompany the talk |
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::;* Reviewed 10/29 - tentative status - Yes, Follow up owner - Mel |
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::;* Time: 60-90 minutes should be sufficient for both demos and discussion combined. |
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::;* Who: [[User:Mchua|Mchua]] and the QA group can demo what the QA group is using right now, send a call for/invite/ authors and users of existing testing tools to give mini-stand-ups during this time, and moderate discussion. |
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::;* Prep: Call for (and choose/schedule) mini test-tool demos, prep demo spiels for existing QA tools (I'll have to do this anyway regardless of an XOCamp presentation, for community test)... some code customization to make tools work (better) for OLPC will likely be needed. [[User:Mchua|Mchua]] |
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See also Bryan's blog - http://blog.olenepal.org/ |
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== Sugar Synch Up == |
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* Presentation on features and important bug fixes of Sugar 0.84. |
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: '''Keeping Up with Fedora''' |
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* Discussion of Trac usage and bug fixing. |
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:: -- entered by [[User:Gregorio|Gregorio]] 16:14, 28 October 2008 (UTC) Not sure who can present. Main topic is what will it take to get to Fedora 10, what are the benefits and costs. |
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* Agreement on quality metrics. How many open bugs of which type will we accept and still release. |
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::;* How much time is needed? |
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* Review of schedule and relevant meetings. |
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::;* Who can lead the discussion? |
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::;* What preparation and materials should be created (e.g. presentations, code samples, other)? |
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::;* Reviewed Nov 12. Status - Yes, owner Chris. |
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[http://sugarlabs.org/go/DevelopmentTeam/Release/Roadmap Sugar Roadmap] |
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: '''[http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2008-October/020734.html Sugar as an upstream project]''' - Marco Pesenti Gritti |
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::;* Reviewed 10/29 - tentative status - Defer Follow up owner - Marco |
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::;* How much time is needed? |
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::;* Who can lead the discussion? |
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::;* What preparation and materials should be created (e.g. presentations, code samples, other)? |
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[[9.1.0|XO Software Release 9.1.0]] |
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: '''Replacing Sugar Totally''' - whether and how to climb out of the dead-end without further investment - gnu |
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::;* How much time is needed? |
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::;* Who can lead the discussion? Gnu |
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::;* What preparation and materials should be created (e.g. presentations, code samples, other)? |
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: '''Fixing & featuring activities''' - process and progress about activity updates; from maintainer pinging (newsreader, paint) to regular activity-review (gcompris sets, simcity). Similarly, publicizing partly-finished activities (shikhar's email, b-logo). |
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== School Server == |
== School Server == |
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Summary - Status and plans. |
Summary - Status and plans. |
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:: --[[User:Walter]] - It would be great to get a status report (from Martin?) and set expectations as to what services we can expect to leverage within the XO/Sugar ecosystem. |
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::;* How much time is needed? 2 hours |
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::;* Who can lead the discussion? Martin |
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::;* What preparation and materials should be created (e.g. presentations, code samples, other)? |
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* Quick overview of the status of the XS |
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== Languages == |
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* Areas where can relieve pressure from the XO |
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=== i18n and l10n: 9.1 and beyond === |
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** Narrative and content publishing/ sharing |
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** Upgrade and other mgmt tools |
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* Focus areas to improve XO-XS interaction for 9.1 release cycle |
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** Service announcement (DNS? mDNS? Zeroconf? DNS masking?) |
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** "XS within sight" flag on XO |
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** Lease management protocol - (to be continued in theft deterrence) |
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** Browse.xo automagic auth |
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** ejabberd, presence service / roster mgmt |
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** "Thicker" wikislices |
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* Interesting goals for 9.2 or later |
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** Backup as extension of Journal (a la Time Machine) |
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** "Universal" book reader |
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** Alternative mesh strategies - Cerebro |
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** Sneakernet - wwwoffle |
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** MikMik and the XS |
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== Fedora Compatibility == |
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[[Feature roadmap/Rebase on Fedora 10]] <br> |
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Test and development work to base 9.1.0 on Fedora 10.<br> |
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List of packages that to get in to Fedora |
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[[Feature roadmap/Run_Fedora_applications_on_XO]] |
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Activity compatibility. Making it easy to run Fedora Linux apps on the XO. <br> |
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Picking a desktop manager. |
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== Activation/lease/signing/image customization == |
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[[Feature roadmap/Activation_lease_security]] <br> |
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Deployment controlled activation lease security |
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[[Feature roadmap/Image_customization]] <br> |
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Updating faster/better for 9.1 |
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[[Feature roadmap/Image_signing_key_delegation]] <br> |
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How to allow deployments to sign their own images. |
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[[Feature roadmap/Faster_imaging]] <br> |
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[[Feature roadmap/Activation_via_wireless]] <br> |
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== Power management == |
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[[Feature roadmap/Improved_battery_life]] <br> |
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Continuing to evolve software to wring all potential power savings out of the hardware. Timed wakeup, allowing screen blanking to recover power and allowing more aggressive suspending. Measuring power usage to avoid regressions. Testing for power against real world usage, pushing the remaining suspend-related bugs to completion. |
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[[Feature roadmap/No_power_regressions]] <br> |
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[[Feature roadmap/Shutdown_menu]] <br> |
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The power button is currently underutilized. It should allow either shutdown or suspend of the laptop, with the help of an on-screen dialog or menu. |
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== Localization == |
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Some key features from Software features in the area Localization |
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i18n and l10n: 9.1 and beyond <br> |
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The areas I would like to cover include: |
The areas I would like to cover include: |
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::* ''Input methods'': |
::* ''Input methods'': Our current input system (XKB) is not enough for Chinese/Japanese/Korean, and even existing customers like Ethiopia have needs which are met with considerable difficulty with XKB. For 9.1, I propose that we switch to SCIM[1], which should take care of most (if not all) of our current requirements. |
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::* ''Multiple, non English fallback languages'': Many of our users will probably be multilingual. |
::* ''Multiple, non English fallback languages'': Many of our users will probably be multilingual. An Aymara speaker would like to see the UI strings falling back to Spanish translations in absence of Aymara instead of the normal, default English. We have the existing infrastructure in our core i18n infrastructure, implementing this is simply a matter of making changes in Sugar (and maybe Rainbow). |
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::* ''Language packs'': The current system of language packs is not very reliable (it overwrites the original translations in the system, installations cannot be easily undone, no versioning, etc). I want to switch to a RPM based language pack system for 9.1, which will be easier to deploy (especially if the customization key mechanism gets support for RPM). This will require support for multiple locale directories, and I'll talk about that as well (Ubuntu uses a similar approach - I plan to reuse their patches if possible). |
::* ''Language packs'': The current system of language packs is not very reliable (it overwrites the original translations in the system, installations cannot be easily undone, no versioning, etc). I want to switch to a RPM based language pack system for 9.1, which will be easier to deploy (especially if the customization key mechanism gets support for RPM). This will require support for multiple locale directories, and I'll talk about that as well (Ubuntu uses a similar approach - I plan to reuse their patches if possible). |
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::*''User modifiable translations'': There has been a number of ideas on this - initially (during my last visit to 1CC), we were thinking of a "Translate Activity" which would let children add/modify translations, and optionally let them share the translations over the mesh. SJ and Scott have recently suggested a wiki-like editable UI, which would, definitely be much cooler ;-). I want to brainstorm on this, and try to figure out the amount of time we need to do this, the advantages, risks, tradeoffs involved etc. |
::*''User modifiable translations'': There has been a number of ideas on this - initially (during my last visit to 1CC), we were thinking of a "Translate Activity" which would let children add/modify translations, and optionally let them share the translations over the mesh. SJ and Scott have recently suggested a wiki-like editable UI, which would, definitely be much cooler ;-). I want to brainstorm on this, and try to figure out the amount of time we need to do this, the advantages, risks, tradeoffs involved etc. |
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:: Presenter: [[User:Sayamindu|Sayamindu]] |
:: Presenter: [[User:Sayamindu|Sayamindu]] |
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::;* Reviewed 10/29 - tentative status - Yes, Follow up owner - Sayamindu and SJ |
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::;* How much time is needed? |
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::;* Who can lead the discussion? |
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::;* What preparation and materials should be created (e.g. presentations, code samples, other)? |
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== Filesystems == |
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=== Language learning on the XO=== |
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Topics to be covered include: Why replace JFFS2, a summary of the existing alternatives, some preliminary performance data, an overview of all the SW stack changes required to implement a new filesystem. We will also discuss the alternative option of sticking to JFFS2 and trying to fix the known issues. |
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Tools for language learners. |
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See also: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Feature_roadmap/Replace_JFFS_file_system_with_better_one |
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:: Presenter: [[User:Cjb|Cjb]] |
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::;* Reviewed 10/29 - tentative status - Yes, Follow up owner - Chris |
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::;* How much time is needed? |
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== |
== Performance == |
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System-level performance tweaks for UI responsiveness. |
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=== Next-generation journal ideas === |
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:: --[[User:CScott]] (I can give a talk) |
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:: --[[User:Walter]] (I"d like to talk about portfolios--''possibly'' a closely related topic) |
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::;* Reviewed 10/29 - tentative status - Yes Follow up owner - Scott |
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::;* How much time is needed? |
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::;* Who can lead the discussion? |
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::;* What preparation and materials should be created (e.g. presentations, code samples, other)? |
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See also: [[:Category:Performance]] |
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=== Libraries === |
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Can libraries be more than static content? can they be merged with activity bundles? |
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::;* Reviewed 10/29 - tentative status - Defer Follow up owner - ? |
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::;* How much time is needed? |
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::;* Who can lead the discussion? |
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::;* What preparation and materials should be created (e.g. presentations, code samples, other)? |
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== Dealing with Low Memory conditions == |
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=== [http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2008-October/020812.html Files]=== |
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Thread started by Deepak on low memory at: http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2008-October/020543.html |
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:: --[[User:Erik Garrison]] (Can give a talk providing a concrete set of proposals) |
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::;* Reviewed 10/29 - tentative status - Defer Follow up owner - Erik |
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::;* How much time is needed? |
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::;* Who can lead the discussion? |
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::;* What preparation and materials should be created (e.g. presentations, code samples, other)? |
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See also: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Feature_roadmap/Memory_pressure |
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=== Searching === |
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There are various places where one searches for information in daily use of an XO. Improvements to search (in the journal, in sugar views, in browse) are discussed |
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::;* Reviewed 10/29 - tentative status - Defer, Follow up owner - Mel and SJ |
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::;* How much time is needed? |
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::;* Who can lead the discussion? |
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::;* What preparation and materials should be created (e.g. presentations, code samples, other)? |
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=== Multiplayer wikipad === |
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Sharing a namespace of versioned editable docs. MikMik update. - [Mako?] |
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:: --[[User:Sj|Sj]] [[User talk:Sj|<font style="color:#f70; font-size:70%">talk</font>]] |
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::;* Reviewed 10/29 - tentative status - Defer, Follow up owner - Mel and SJ |
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::;* How much time is needed? |
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::;* Who can lead the discussion? |
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::;* What preparation and materials should be created (e.g. presentations, code samples, other)? |
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== Teacher Training Competencies == |
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=== Customizing skins === |
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Setting desktop themes and backgrounds is another quick rewarding way to feel ownership of one's system |
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::;* Reviewed 10/29 - tentative status - Defer, Follow up owner ? |
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::;* How much time is needed? |
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::;* Who can lead the discussion? |
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::;* What preparation and materials should be created (e.g. presentations, code samples, other)? |
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=== |
=== Introductions === |
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; Terri-Nicole Singleton : Arts Educator – Great Lakes Theater Classical Literature Residency in over 275 K-12 classrooms |
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::Thread from Tomeu at: http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2008-October/020576.html |
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: K-8 Teacher, certified, highly-qualified |
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::;* Reviewed 10/29 - tentative status - Defer, Follow up owner - Scott and Tomeu (may only need a "flash" session. |
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: 1-to1 laptop program |
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::;* How much time is needed? |
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: Comparative Literature – in African-American and Spanish Literature – lived for 5 mos |
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::;* Who can lead the discussion? |
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: M.Ed John Carroll University |
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::;* What preparation and materials should be created (e.g. presentations, code samples, other)? |
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My job: Create a modular, reusable set of workshop training materials. |
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== Networking and Collaboration == |
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: Collect the “best of” what’s out there. |
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''' Reviewed 11/5. This section should be re-worked in to two sessions Greg to synch up with Morgan, Scott and Michail''' |
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: Make it modifiable in other locations. |
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: Emphasize the pedagogy of how to teach with the tools as opposed to teaching specific content |
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; Caroline Meeks : Solution Grove, Gardner School SoaS Pilot, Harvard Graduate School of Education |
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=== Underlying Technologies === |
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: '''[[Network principles]]''' -- how do we find others and collaborate with them? |
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:: --[[User:CScott]] (I can give a talk on this topic) |
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::;* How much time is needed? |
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::;* Who can lead the discussion? |
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::;* What preparation and materials should be created (e.g. presentations, code samples, other)? |
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: '''Time Delayed internet''' --- offline caching and browsing, library integration? |
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:: --[[User:CScott]] (I can make a brief proposal; I'd like to hear others present) |
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::;* How much time is needed? |
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::;* Who can lead the discussion? |
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::;* What preparation and materials should be created (e.g. presentations, code samples, other)? |
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=== Data === |
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: '''Link local presence/collaboration''' -- improving serverless presence and collaboration including integration of Cerebro |
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:: --[[User:Morgs]] (I can facilitate discussion - need Poly and Collabora's participation) |
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::;* How much time is needed? |
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::;* Who can lead the discussion? |
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::;* What preparation and materials should be created (e.g. presentations, code samples, other)? |
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Stories and examples of how Sugar has effectively been used to teach exemplars |
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: '''Server presence/collaboration improvements''' -- improving XMPP server based presence and collaboration including Gadget |
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* Tony: Nepal - Dr. Saurav (sp?) - Works well with English because the teachers did not have strong English skills. Not much use of activities because training did not focus on that. |
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:: --[[User:Morgs]] (I'd like to see Collabora talk about Gadget implementation and deployment) |
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* Eastern Nigeria - Danish Pedagogical new learning models and Schlumberger project: 1000 laptops, people in the old Draper building. |
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::;* How much time is needed? |
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* Thailand -- they wanted simple spreadsheets, mindmap tools, presentation tools, all of which we have to some degree now |
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::;* Who can lead the discussion? |
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* Nigeria -- the Ibo spelling dictionary. (They needed one for Write, and made one by hand) |
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::;* What preparation and materials should be created (e.g. presentations, code samples, other)? |
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=== Questions === |
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: '''Removing sugar-presence-service''' -- Collabora proposed a complexity reduction by moving PS into Sugar |
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:: --[[User:Morgs]] (I'd like to see Collabora's ideas presented) |
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::;* How much time is needed? |
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::;* Who can lead the discussion? |
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::;* What preparation and materials should be created (e.g. presentations, code samples, other)? |
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# Who else would be a good resource? |
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:'''Eliminating Mesh, keeping 802.11''' |
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# What is success? |
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::Mesh barely works. We should expand our hardware choices and avoid locking our software into a failed effort, by moving our software and documentation to straight 802.11 ad-hoc and 802.11 access point configurations. We are almost there now, just need to clean up a few loose ends. - gnu |
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# What competencies do we want teachers to come out of training with so they can have these sort of successes. |
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::;* Reviewed 10/29 - tentative status - Defer, Follow up owner - Greg to contact Gnu and may fold in to a two hour Gnu's top issues block. |
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::;* How much time is needed? |
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::;* Who can lead the discussion? |
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::;* What preparation and materials should be created (e.g. presentations, code samples, other)? |
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== John Gnu Block == |
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=== GUI, Activities, Sharing, Synchronous/Asynchronous === |
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* '''Replacing Sugar Totally''' - whether and how to climb out of the dead-end without further investment - gnu |
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* '''Consider eliminating DRM''' <br> |
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Now that Fedora runs out of the box on the XO, it's become more obvious that shipping jailed laptops is bad policy. It's been done via a misguided "security = good" mindset and a lazy "fewer SKUs is easier" approach. - gnu |
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* '''Eliminating Mesh, keeping 802.11''' |
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Mesh barely works. We should expand our hardware choices and avoid locking our software into a failed effort, by moving our software and documentation to straight 802.11 ad-hoc and 802.11 access point configurations. We are almost there now, just need to clean up a few loose ends. - gnu |
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== Asynchronous Collaboration == |
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: '''File or Journal Object Sharing''' -- Ability to transfer information for distribution or asynchronous collaboration |
: '''File or Journal Object Sharing''' -- Ability to transfer information for distribution or asynchronous collaboration |
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:: --[[User:Morgs]] (This too needs a discussion with several participants. It might not make 9.1.0 but we need to plan for it.) |
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::;* How much time is needed? |
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::;* Who can lead the discussion? |
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: '''Collaboration''' |
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::Also submitting homework and student - teacher interaction. See thread started by Yama on Devel: http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/sugar/2008-October/009472.htmland thread started by Mikus: http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2008-October/020436.html |
::Also submitting homework and student - teacher interaction. See thread started by Yama on Devel: http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/sugar/2008-October/009472.htmland thread started by Mikus: http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2008-October/020436.html |
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::[[User:Gregorio|Gregorio]] 19:27, 23 October 2008 (UTC) |
::[[User:Gregorio|Gregorio]] 19:27, 23 October 2008 (UTC) |
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::;* How much time is needed? |
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::;* What preparation and materials should be created (e.g. presentations, code samples, other)? |
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: '''eBook Reader''' |
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== Linux and XO OS == |
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Three parts below need to be combined. [[User:Gregorio|Gregorio]] 21:45, 12 November 2008 (UTC) |
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:'''Filesystems''' -- replacing jffs2 |
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:: --[[User:CScott]] (I hope Deepak can give a talk on this topic) |
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::: Martin is very keen on this topic. We need something '''really compelling, standard and compatible''' for OLPC and all/most other viable platforms to win. Currently, every content project creates their own viewer (often webbased). We want to be able to show the content from a thousand sources, through a single viewer. We need something so easy for content creators to embrace, and so obviously good that they embrace it. |
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: '''What does an electronic textbook look like?''' |
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:: Since the 1960s there have been experiments in high-powered educational software, but not a lot of textbook development that integrates this software into the text, and very little classroom experience. This session will look at the available materials, the types of software and content available, and the implications for future curricula. |
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:: What do we know? What examples do we have and what do they show us? |
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:: What opportunities can we see? How do we make this happen? What questions should we ask next? |
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:: Examples: <br> |
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::* Edison Talking Typewriter to teach reading and writing to pre-school children |
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::* Ken Iverson's textbooks, Arithmetic, Algebra, and Calculus |
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::* Smalltalk and the Dynabook concept |
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::* Matlab, Mathematica, and other powerful software |
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::* Notebook and workspace formats and capabilities |
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::* Teaching programming to children: TurteArt (sic), Smalltalk, Logo, APL, others |
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UPDATE: [[Alan Kay]], [[Doug Engelbart]], [[FLOSS Manuals]], [[Open Learning Exchange]], [[Creative Commons]] ccLearn, [[The Tech Museum of Innovation]], and others have agreed in principle to join together to create a new kind of textbook. I'll invite them all to XOCamp. See [http://sugarlabs.org/go/Creating_textbooks Creating textbooks] at Sugar Labs for more. |
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::Submitted by Ed Cherlin--[[User:Mokurai|Mokurai]] 02:13, 29 October 2008 (UTC), updated 19:47, 16 December 2008 (UTC) |
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Andrius Kulikauskas (ms@ms.lt), [http://www.ms.lt Minciu Sodas], working on open source materials for learning mathematics, and sharing ideas from the [http://www.includer.org Includer], and connecting with [http://www.ms.lt/news.php independent thinkers in Africa and around the world]. |
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== Synchronous Collaboration == |
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: '''[[Network principles]]''' -- how do we find others and collaborate with them? |
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:: --[[User:CScott]] (I can give a talk on this topic) |
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::;* How much time is needed? |
::;* How much time is needed? |
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::;* Who can lead the discussion? |
::;* Who can lead the discussion? |
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::;* What preparation and materials should be created (e.g. presentations, code samples, other)? |
::;* What preparation and materials should be created (e.g. presentations, code samples, other)? |
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;;; * Reviewed Nov 12. Status: Yes want to do it. Need owner (Deepak) to add more details. |
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: '''Time Delayed internet''' --- offline caching and browsing, library integration? |
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: '''Updates''' -- Updating faster/better for 9.1 |
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:: --[[User:CScott]] (I can |
:: --[[User:CScott]] (I can make a brief proposal; I'd like to hear others present) |
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::;* How much time is needed? |
::;* How much time is needed? |
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::;* Who can lead the discussion? |
::;* Who can lead the discussion? |
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::;* What preparation and materials should be created (e.g. presentations, code samples, other)? |
::;* What preparation and materials should be created (e.g. presentations, code samples, other)? |
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::; Could review requirements definition here - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Feature_roadmap#Faster_imaging |
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;;; * Reviewed Nov 12. Status: defer until more details available. Greg to check with Scott. |
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: '''Gadget''' -- improving XMPP server based presence |
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: '''Dealing with Low Memory conditions.''' |
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:: Note: This was already presented at SugarCamp. |
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:: -- Thread started by Deepak on low memory at: http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2008-October/020543.html |
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::;* How much time is needed? |
::;* How much time is needed? |
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::;* Who can lead the discussion? |
::;* Who can lead the discussion? |
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::;* What preparation and materials should be created (e.g. presentations, code samples, other)? |
::;* What preparation and materials should be created (e.g. presentations, code samples, other)? |
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;;; * Reviewed Nov 12. Status - defer until more details available. Greg to check with Erik and Deepak about preapring agendas. |
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== Karma - Framework to make it stupid-easy to create Activities == |
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=== Power management === |
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[[User:Berrybw|Bryan Berry]] will talk about Karma, a framework that aims to make it stupid easy to create activities for the XO using Flash technologies |
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:: Summary: Continuing to evolve software to wring all potential power savings out of the hardware. Timed wakeup, allowing screen blanking to recover power and allowing more aggressive suspending. Measuring power usage to avoid regressions. testing for power against real world usage, pushing the remaining suspend-related bugs to completion. Keeping a close eye on software and hardware needed to really reduce power in Gen2. Also includes - the power button is currently underutilized. It should allow either shutdown or suspend of the laptop, with the help of an on-screen dialog or menu. [http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2008-October/020530.html] |
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::See also thread on power at: http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2008-October/020538.html - gnu |
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::;* How much time is needed? Maybe 2 hours? |
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::;* Who can lead the discussion? [[User:Cjb]], [[User:Rsmith]], gnu?, [[User:pgf]] |
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::;* What preparation and materials should be created (e.g. presentations, code samples, other)? |
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* Time - 60 - 90 minutes including discussion |
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Status - Status - On track to include. Next steps, ToC for presentation. |
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* Bryan Berry will lead the discussion |
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* Powerpoint presentation will accompany the talk, along with demonstration |
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=== Pyjamas-desktop : Framework to make it easy to create FF-based activities === |
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=== Performance === |
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The Man In Black will talk about Pyjamas-desktop, a framework for writing AJAX apps in Python and running them locally, and what is needed to extend this into a framework for activity creation. |
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''' Summary ''' - System-level performance tweaks for UI responsiveness. A short demo by Erik. Also includes top 5 performance issues from Marco per http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2008-October/020597.html |
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* How much time is needed? 1 hour |
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* Who can lead the discussion? Erik and Marco |
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* What preparation and materials should be created (e.g. presentations, code samples, other)? |
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* Time - 60 minutes? discussion tied into Karma discussion |
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Status - Yes spot reserved. Next steps - Marco and Erik to synch up and prepare agenda and presentation as needed. |
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== Teacher Training Competencies == |
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== Security == |
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Terri, Sugarlabs's intern from HGSE, will be creating and delivering teacher and parent training this spring. |
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=== Theft-deterrence === |
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This will be a brainstorming session to collect ideas and resources. |
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:: Summary: what are we doing, what can we do better. Could review this requirement and any accompanying design: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Feature_roadmap#Activation_lease_security |
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= Community Track = |
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::;* How much time is needed? 1 hour? |
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::;* Who can lead the discussion? [[User:CScott]] |
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::;* What preparation and materials should be created (e.g. presentations, code samples, other)? |
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== Community == |
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=== Isolation and untrusted activities === |
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: ''' Why it matters''' |
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:: --[[User:CScott]] (I hope that Michael will speak on this) |
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:: In my view it is the whole bottom line, la raison d'être of the whole project. No matter the XO and us are agents in developing scientists, artists, lawyers, whatever (who anyway are wont to migrate North ASAP), if there is not a process of community getting built among ''people who are not familiar with the culture and processes of collaboration'', we are for naught, except maybe in making things worse. And of course, it is not at all just about sharing an activity, which is a software/hardware issue, it's the whole concept of building things together, sharing, being open to give and take, losing the "no te metás" (don't get involved) mentality. [[User:Yamaplos|Yamaplos]] 17:33, 2 December 2008 (UTC) |
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::;* How much time is needed? |
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* Discuss specific strategies so that all the rest of the software / hardware effort is not wasted |
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::;* Who can lead the discussion? |
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* Specific fixes to software and hardware |
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::;* What preparation and materials should be created (e.g. presentations, code samples, other)? |
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::;* How much time is needed? a couple lifetimes? OK, gimme an hour at least, maybe in such a way that it can overflow into dinner or lunch |
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=== Delegation of Signing Leases === |
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::;* Who can lead the discussion? <s>Yama</s> |
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:: Ed asked this be covered. |
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:::::I'm leaving this section in case anyone wants to follow up. I was told there is no funding at all for volunteers besides some fundraising happening on the side (link?), so I will not be going. Actually the very fact that a whole track is dedicated to community but there is no formal funding set aside to bring in community people proves community issues are many, not taken seriously, and it's not only a bottom-up problem... <sub>[[User:Yamaplos|Yamaplos]] 16:31, 18 December 2008 (UTC)</sub> |
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::;* How much time is needed? |
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::;* What preparation and materials should be created (e.g. presentations, code samples, other)? I have volunteered [[EquipoSur_XOCamp2]] to help |
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::;* Who can lead the discussion? |
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::;* What preparation and materials should be created (e.g. presentations, code samples, other)? |
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=='''[[Distributing OLPC]]'''== |
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=== Eliminating DRM in G1G1 === |
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::Summary: Open discussion to address the following questions. |
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::Now that Fedora runs out of the box on the XO, it's become more obvious that shipping jailed laptops is bad policy. It's been done via a misguided "security = good" mindset and a lazy "fewer SKUs is easier" approach. - gnu |
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# How can OLPC encourage worldwide decentralized community development models for pedagogy and the content and software to support it? |
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::;* Reviewed 10/29 - tentative status - No, Follow up owner - Greg to contact Gnu and may fold in to a two hour Gnu's top issues block. |
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##And then let the whole worldwide community benefit? <sub>[[User:Yamaplos|Yamaplos]] 19:39, 13 November 2008 (UTC)</sub> |
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::;* How much time is needed? |
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##Having the pedagogy community to present about their experience and work and challenges and triumphs would help... <sub>[[User:Yamaplos|Yamaplos]] 16:37, 18 December 2008 (UTC)</sub> |
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::;* Who can lead the discussion? |
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# How can communication between/among OLPC-the-organization and grassroots pedagogical, content, and software developers be improved? |
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##Define, clarify channels. Who do you contact for a small deployment? How do you distribute not just green bricks but ''knowledge'' and training? Who should you contact in 1CC for what kind of issue? <sub>[[User:Yamaplos|Yamaplos]] 19:39, 13 November 2008 (UTC)</sub> |
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# Whether and how we want the volunteer community to help us with 9.1 |
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## If OLPC-the-organizations says that we support the open-source mentality and that we encourage volunteers, we should articulate exactly what kind of volunteer support we want and need, the kind of relationship the organization would like to have with the community, and the kind of support (including support and resources that are conditional) we can provide them with. [[User:Mchua|Mchua]] 16:54, 29 October 2008 (UTC) |
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## I personally think that it is especially important to articulate the kind of volunteer projects we ''won't'' support and ''do not'' have resources for, so that community members know what they have to do completely independently of OLPC. Knowing the answer is a no is better, for planning and getting-things-done purposes, than remaining in a nebulous "maybe?" state. [[User:Mchua|Mchua]] 16:54, 29 October 2008 (UTC) |
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::::totally second both points <sub>[[User:Yamaplos|Yamaplos]]</sub> |
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::;* How much time is needed - 1 hour |
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::;* Who can lead the discussion - Rafael, ([[User:Mchua|Mel]] available for backup) |
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::;* What preparation and materials should be created (e.g. presentations, code samples, other)? |
::;* What preparation and materials should be created (e.g. presentations, code samples, other)? |
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:::::I am working on a 10-minute "canned" presentation to be used for getting people non-familiar with the program to get enough to jump in - Far from ready, but hope it will be [[User:Yamaplos|Yamaplos]] 17:23, 17 December 2008 (UTC) |
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Status - On track to include. Next steps, ToC for presentation. |
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::::Why is this under "software engineering"? No doubt there are software-related issues we need to address, but this is primarily a wetware issue. The tools are there, agreed they are not perfect, yet the fact they are not being used has to do with how we reach (or miss reaching) people, not with hardware or software. [[User:Yamaplos|Yamaplos]] 17:57, 2 December 2008 (UTC) |
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== QA == |
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== Activities and Applications == |
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See the log at [[XOCamp 2/QA]]. |
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=== Interoperation with legacy apps === |
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:: Summary: Activity compatibility. Making it easy to run Fedora Linux apps on the XO. See also this thread: http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2008-October/020595.html |
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::;* How much time is needed? |
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::;* Who can lead the discussion? [[User:CScott]] and maybe Marco |
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::;* What preparation and materials should be created (e.g. presentations, code samples, other)? |
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Co-moderated by [[User:Mchua|Mel Chua]] (OLPC QA Community) and [[User:Edmcnierney|Ed McNierney]] (OLPC VP of Software). All are welcome; the format's a bit unusual, as this started as "Mel and Ed should have a meeting to talk about QA going forward," ran into "But there's no time, and the community should be involved anyway," and rapidly turned into "well, why don't we just invite everyone else and have it at XOCamp?" |
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Status - Likely but needs more confirmation. Next steps - Marco and Scott to synch up on agenda. |
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In a nutshell, OLPC has a QA staff of 0 as of Jan 9, 2009, but testing still needs to be done. |
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=== eBook Reader === |
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Three parts below need to be combined. [[User:Gregorio|Gregorio]] 21:45, 12 November 2008 (UTC) |
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[[Image:Jan-2009-qa-plan.png]] |
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: '''What does an electronic textbook look like?''' |
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:: Since the 1960s there have been experiments in high-powered educational software, but not a lot of textbook development that integrates this software into the text, and very little classroom experience. This session will look at the available materials, the types of software and content available, and the implications for future curricula. |
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=== Proposal === |
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:: What do we know? What examples do we have and what do they show us? |
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:: What opportunities can we see? How do we make this happen? What questions should we ask next? |
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3 areas of focus for the community, with OLPC-the-org support - big question: What does OLPC need to do now so that it doesn't have to ''do'' QA ever in the future if it doesn't want to? |
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:: Examples: <br> |
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::* Edison Talking Typewriter to teach reading and writing to pre-school children |
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::* Ken Iverson's textbooks, Arithmetic, Algebra, and Calculus |
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::* Smalltalk and the Dynabook concept |
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::* Matlab, Mathematica, and other powerful software |
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::* Notebook and workspace formats and capabilities |
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::* Teaching programming to children: Smalltalk, Logo, APL, others |
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# Integration testing (minor, pushing out to other groups - over time this will diminish as we become more distribution/software agnostic) - "Fedora! You guys need to do your testing!" |
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::Submitted by Ed Cherlin--[[User:Mokurai|Mokurai]] 02:13, 29 October 2008 (UTC) |
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# System testing / testbeds (major, turning into minor) |
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# Acceptance testing at deployments (minor, turning into major, but being done by not-OLPC-the-organization) - hopefully eventually deployments will be sending software images to OLPC! |
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=== History === |
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: '''Annotation''' - storing general annotations for documents and other works. Formats, tools, Sugar/Journal integration. - ??? |
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* Community capabilities and activities so far |
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:: --[[User:Sj|Sj]] [[User talk:Sj|<font style="color:#f70; font-size:70%">talk</font>]] |
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** [[Friends in Testing]] (Brian Pepple - previously Michael Stone and Joe Feinstein) |
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::;* Reviewed 10/29 - tentative status - Defer, Follow up owner - Mel and SJ |
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** [[G1G1 Activity testing]] and local test groups (Tabitha, Alastair, the Welly Testers, et al) |
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::;* How much time is needed? |
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** Test case/results reporting infrastructure, with plenty of Semantic Mediawiki Magic (Skierpage, Carl, etc.) |
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::;* Who can lead the discussion? |
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** Other things; cool tools? Great insights! (Gary, Ben, Various People Who Are All Named Chris) |
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::;* What preparation and materials should be created (e.g. presentations, code samples, other)? |
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=== General concerns === |
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: '''Book reading''' - reading texts : interface[s] for reading, bookmarking, annotating; combining readers for different formats; models to follow. - [sayamindu?] |
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:: --[[User:Sj|Sj]] [[User talk:Sj|<font style="color:#f70; font-size:70%">talk</font>]] |
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::;* Reviewed 10/29 - tentative status - Defer, Follow up owner - Mel and SJ |
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::;* How much time is needed? |
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::;* Who can lead the discussion? |
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::;* What preparation and materials should be created (e.g. presentations, code samples, other)? |
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* Concerns about organization/communication (Mel: I think these concerns are right now too generic for us to address, but we should certainly keep them in mind.) |
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=== Web based activities === |
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* Will local organization of test groups scale? |
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Summary - http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2008-October/020598.html |
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::;* How much time is needed? |
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=== Current OLPC testing efforts === |
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::;* Who can lead the discussion? Marco |
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::;* What preparation and materials should be created (e.g. presentations, code samples, other)? |
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* Things that we know will need software QA: what's the gameplan? |
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** 8.2.1 interim release (testing managed by Mel, Mel to present the current status/plan) Gameplan: |
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*** 17 bugs, see http://dev.laptop.org/report/38 |
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*** Immediate next step: 5 in the stage where we can test them (test in build) |
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*** Immediate next next step: check with the committer of the patch (deepak, etc.) and see if there are areas of potential regression to test around |
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*** If There Is Time: regression risk analysis for "add to release" tickets (2), but this is lower-hanging fruit. |
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*** Question: How does this interact with triage? |
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*** Question: What criteria do you want for us to set for QA signoffs? (Who can sign off, etc?) |
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:::::: For 8.2.1, Ed is the signoff person. |
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** 9.1.0 release (testing managed by... migration to Fedora!) |
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* Acceptance testing at deployments: Something we haven't done a lot of yet |
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* What are the other things that will need QA in the near future? the not so near future? |
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* What kind of tools and info access are needed to carry out that testing? |
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* What resources can OLPC provide community testers with? |
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* How can we encourage local testing groups like the one in Welly to form up? |
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* And more? |
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=== Tools === |
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* semantic mediawiki test cases and test reporting forms. This is... functional, but sort of awkward. Potential to explore alternative solutions - not sure if we have manpower to allocate this yet, but if this is a priority for you, I'll make it so. (Alternative: spreadsheets, which Mel is not particularly psyched about, but sure.) |
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* skierpage, carl, gary, cjl have been particularly helpful in this area, thank you! |
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=== People === |
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* Do you have minimum requirements for people contributing to the 8.2.1 (and future) test efforts? |
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* I don't. |
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* Big focus of community test: training/teaching newcomers. A lot of testing seems to be learned by people on the fly anyway, let's see if we can step that up. |
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=== equipment === |
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* Do volunteers have access to large enough testbeds to do, say, 50 XOs + XS testing? (Interim solution: visit 1cc and use their testbeds, but this is suboptimal to say the least.) |
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* I am assuming that we will operate out of the testbeds at 1cc for 8.2.1 by default, and that I'll come in / send in local volunteers to use this testbed. Is this ok? |
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* I count 118 "test" XOs around 1cc. Who is responsible for them now? |
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* Request: that we get 500 XOs allocated to community testing, in the form of 5 Change The World deployment shipments, one per month for the first 5 months of 2009 (Jan-May). Mchua will take personal responsibility for making sure (or finding someone who you'll be comfortable with making sure) these XOs will be allocated, tracked, and results from the groups receiving them made useful to OLPC in a way that OLPC (Ed, most likely) will be happy with. |
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** Usage: |
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*** 400 of these XOs should seed 8 large-scale dedicated system testbeds (50 XOs per testbed) at engineering colleges or other institutions (in particular, with RF equipment). Minimum of one per continent with a deployment, and one per type of environment (urban, rural, etc.) |
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*** The remaining 100 XOs can be distributed in smaller (10 XO, perhaps) beds to groups without this equipment but who wish to specialize in a particular type of testing that relies on XOs being present - power, for example. |
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*** We are close to having groups formally lined up to take the first large-scale testbed on: UWMadison, and possibly SFSU. Oceania would be an easy second spot, possibly followed by a deployment support community in Peru, Uruguay, or Paraguay - note that Madison is solid, but the rest of them are bigger guesses as to where I think we'd start.) |
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** Cost to OLPC: If $21,900 is enough to fund shipping to a single Change The World deployment, then $21,900x5 = $109,500 is enough for 5, distributed across 5 months, |
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* Special super extra bonus: community/travel/shipping funds would be fantastic; even better would be permission to ask for funds on behalf of ourselves (for instance, say Gary wanted to spend a week working at the testbed nearest to him, right before a release - how could this trip be funded?) |
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=== coordination with upstream testing === |
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* Fedora (Mel does not know very much about Fedora QA, or if this handoff has been managed yet, or if the responsibility needs to be picked up.) Reference: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA |
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* Sugar Labs: should we be moving Activity (and other) testing upstream to Sugar Labs (note Sugar Labs does not test; they have a bug squad, see http://sugarlabs.org/go/BugSquad.) |
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== Community infrastructure collab == |
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Work out how to coordinate efforts with Fedora's Community Infrastructure group. Streamlining discussion, testing, and more. How do we build a lasting infrastructure so that local groups can carry out their own education projects / help empower projects in their communities? How can we share knowledge and inspiration across different types and styles of education efforts using Sugar and XO? What is the role for a strong research community in building infrastructure (including funding and visibility)? Specifics: |
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* community processes that have worked and that have not, effective arms of local organizations (in PR, in event organization, in design, in school or uni outreach) |
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* what engagement programs are most important? OLPC has contrib programs but doesn't send swag kits. Have the XOs for Fedora groups been useful? Would more be? Is sticker famine fatal? And more. |
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* how should we follow up with ongoing project maintainers? surveys, emails, pairing up, mentoring. |
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* how should we make best use of Summer of Code and other regular interns? Division of labor and effort; what is upstream and what is not. |
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* Roadshows : how to show off the best of both Fedora and OLPC with a compact kit and demo materials. Notes from the field -- from Diane, Mel, and more. |
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: --[[User:Sj|Sj]] [[User talk:Sj|<font style="color:#f70; font-size:70%">talk</font>]] 19:24, 5 January 2009 (UTC) |
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:: Follow up owner - SJ |
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:: Time needed: 90 minutes |
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:: Discussion leaders - SJ, Holt, GDK? |
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== Moodle and Content == |
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: '''[http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2008-October/020730.html What's an "Activity"???]''' |
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:: I've long wondered about the ambiguities and puzzles inherent in the notion of 'activity' rather than 'application'. Therefore, I'd like to talk about them! --[[User:Mstone|Michael Stone]] 17:18, 29 October 2008 (UTC) |
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Above all we need free (CC or equivalent) educational content aimed at primary school students. This content should be |
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: '''[http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2008-October/020731.html Activities as Building Blocks]''' |
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deliverable by Moodle (or what is a Moodle for?). It needs a host (school.sugarlabs.org or ...). We need to energize the |
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::If one chooses to regard Activities as the "basic building blocks" of learning experiences, then it seems natural to wonder how these blocks can be glued together into larger learning structures. --[[User:Mstone|Michael Stone]] 17:18, 29 October 2008 (UTC) |
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community to contribute. Possible contributors (university faculty and students, deployments, G1G1 owners, ....). Possible sources (existing Moodle courses repurposed, currwiki, connexions, Open Learning, WGBH). |
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:: Time needed: 60 minutes |
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:: Not sure who can present these. Michael, do you want to prepare the talk? GS. |
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:: Discussion leaders - Tony Anderson and interested volunteers |
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Moodle and Content [discuss building host for open educational resources deliverable via the schoolserver and Moodle - Tony Anderson] |
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== List of Presentations for Download == |
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[[category:events]] |
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*[[Media:NepalDeploymentnotes.odp|Deployment Notes for Nepal]] (odp) - Bryan Berry |
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*[[Media:Startupv1.odp|How to startup an OLPC deployment in your country]] (odp) - Bryan Berry |
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*[[Media:Karmanotforhackers.odp|Karma is not for Hackers]] (odp) - Bryan Berry |
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*[[Media:uruguaycom.pdf|Uruguay Presentation slides]] (pdf) |
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*[[Image:DigitalTextbooks.odp]] Sharp Tools and Powerful Ideas in Digital Textbooks, [[User:Mokurai|Mokurai]]'s talk |
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*Diagram of Sugar release roadmap - Marco/Bernie's talk (drawn by SJ, digitized by Brian), diagram of Custom builds and notes on NAND-blasting - Reuben's talk (digitized by Brian) [[Image:20082009releases.png|thumbnail|left]][[Image:CustomBuildsNANDBLAST.png|thumbnail|left]] |
Latest revision as of 15:21, 30 December 2009
The XOcamp 2 miniconference in Has location city::Cambridge Has location country::USA, is scheduled for Start date::January 12, 2009 to End date::January 15, 2009, with a presentation from a Quebec trial on January 16.
The two days of heavy public discussions will be Monday and Tuesday, January 12-13.
FUDcon will be Jan 9-11 See: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon/FUDConF11. XOCamp will be the week following.
The purpose of the XOCamp is to review status of code, specifications and audience for the 9.1.0 release; review activity development; and frame our long-term development effort.
Presentations will be broadcast on XOCamp's Justin.tv channel.
Agenda
All meetings held in the Boardroom at One Laptop per Child, 10th floor, 1 Cambridge Center, Cambridge, MA
A conference line will be open for remote attendees.
Within the United States : 866-213-2185
Outside the United States: 1-609-454-9914
update: access code: 1671650#
Live streaming from http://www.justin.tv/xocamp
Monday January 12, 2009
Time | Main conference room | Foyer and hacking space |
0845 | Coffee and registration | |
0900 | Introductions and Agenda Review. | |
0915 | Requirements review and deployment status (Greg's notes) | Open Space whiteboard |
1000 | Future development of XOOS : 8.2.1, 9.1, F11 and beyond. | |
1100 | ||
1200 | Lunch, FUDCon review, and demonstrations | |
1300 | Deployment Notes from Nepal by Bryan | |
1400 | Activity hacking & showcase | |
1500 | Break | |
1515 | Synchronizing Sugar and Fedora : features, testing, releases and related toolchains (workshop) | |
1530-1615 | OLPC QA, now with 100% Community Goodness (Mel Chua, Ed McNierney) | |
1700 | Review & closing comments | |
1900 | Drinks @ TS | |
evening | Open hacking |
Tuesday January 13, 2009
Time0845 - Coffee & Donuts |
0900 - School Server Roadmap and 0.6 Design Review by Martin, potential followup in the afternoon |
1015 - Break |
1030 - School server followups : including moodle and content |
1100 - |
1200 - Lunch |
1300 - Fedora Compatibility- Rebase on Fedora 10, F11, or CentOS? Running Fedora applications and window managers. NAND vs. SD card and Erikg's latest F10 build |
1345 - Moodle and Content |
1500 - Activation/leases/signing/image customization - timeline and testers. |
1630 - Review & wrapup : next steps |
1700 - Planning for future events (FOSDEM, &c) |
1830 - Dinner (meet downstairs @ 1CC) |
Wednesday January 14, 2009
Time0900 - [morning free] |
1000 - OLPC Startup presentation by Bryan Berry |
1045 - CEIBAL Jam by Luis M. and Andres |
1130 - |
1200 - [lunch elsewhere] Afternoon : future roadmap discussions |
1500 - Open discussions on localization, Alternate file systems, beyond JFFS, performance and Improving memory management, led by Scott? |
1600 - Power Management led by Chris |
1645 - Ed Cherlin on digital books |
1715 - Wrapup and close |
Thursday January 15, 2009
Time0900 - Open session / new activity demonstrations |
1000 - Teacher Training Competencies - Caroline Meeks, Terri-Nicole Singleton |
1100 - Karma - Framework to make it stupid-easy to create Activities - Bryan B |
1200 - Lunch |
1300 - John Gilmore talk & ideas |
1500 - Possibly Asynchronous collaboration and Synchronous Collaboration or open session |
1600 |
1645 - Review and close |
Friday January 16, 2009
Chris Ball is moderating the schedule today.
Time0900 - Open session |
1000 - Presentation on 1 - 1 Laptop deployment (using Macs) in Quebec by Ron Canuel & 3 others. See http://www.etsb.qc.ca/en/EnhancedLearningStrategy/default.shtm |
1100 - |
1200 - Wrapup and close |
Attendees
Sign up here if you plan to attend.
- Andrés Ambrois
- Andrius Kulikauskas
- Bernie Innocenti
- Bobby Powers (80% likely)
- Brian Jordan
- Bryan Berry
- Caroline Meeks
- Stefan Unterhauser
- Joe Feinstein
- Jonas Smedegaard
- Luis Michelena 06:23, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
- Martin Langhoff
- Mchua 23:31, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
- Mokurai 19:51, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
- rjhatl 13:54, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
- Ryan Kabir
- --Sj talk
- Tony Anderson
- David Bauer
- Marco Pesenti Gritti
- Walter Bender (in and out)
- Jim Gettys
- Paul Fox
- Terri-Nicole Singelton
- Polychronis Ypodimatopoulos
- Daniel Bennett as available.
- Henry Edward Hardy as available.
- Jameson Quinn
- Anil Daswani
- Lucia Lovison-Golob
- Randy Cole (from Wed 1/14...)
Technical Track
This section gives details on each talk.
Who is the user and what do they want?
Overview of top concerns from deployment leads, students and teachers. An aggregated look at the top items requested. An in depth look at the motivation of a few specific requests. Time permitting, can include a discussion of how to turn user feedback in to actionable requirements. Can include a detailed "use case" explaining the technical environment and social context of a target school.
See presentation in ppt, pdf, odp.
Deployment is Hard! Notes from Nepal's Deployments
Summary: Bryan Berry will talk about Nepal's deployments with help from Tony Anderson. Will talk about tough stuff like teacher training, developing local support infrastructure, managing volunteers, and particular technical needs.
- Time - 90 minutes + 30 minutes of discussion
- Bryan Berry and Tony Anderson will lead the discussion
- Powerpoint presentation will accompany the talk
See also Bryan's blog - http://blog.olenepal.org/
Sugar Synch Up
- Presentation on features and important bug fixes of Sugar 0.84.
- Discussion of Trac usage and bug fixing.
- Agreement on quality metrics. How many open bugs of which type will we accept and still release.
- Review of schedule and relevant meetings.
School Server
Summary - Status and plans.
- Quick overview of the status of the XS
- Areas where can relieve pressure from the XO
- Narrative and content publishing/ sharing
- Upgrade and other mgmt tools
- Focus areas to improve XO-XS interaction for 9.1 release cycle
- Service announcement (DNS? mDNS? Zeroconf? DNS masking?)
- "XS within sight" flag on XO
- Lease management protocol - (to be continued in theft deterrence)
- Browse.xo automagic auth
- ejabberd, presence service / roster mgmt
- "Thicker" wikislices
- Interesting goals for 9.2 or later
- Backup as extension of Journal (a la Time Machine)
- "Universal" book reader
- Alternative mesh strategies - Cerebro
- Sneakernet - wwwoffle
- MikMik and the XS
Fedora Compatibility
Feature roadmap/Rebase on Fedora 10
Test and development work to base 9.1.0 on Fedora 10.
List of packages that to get in to Fedora
Feature roadmap/Run_Fedora_applications_on_XO
Activity compatibility. Making it easy to run Fedora Linux apps on the XO.
Picking a desktop manager.
Activation/lease/signing/image customization
Feature roadmap/Activation_lease_security
Deployment controlled activation lease security
Feature roadmap/Image_customization
Updating faster/better for 9.1
Feature roadmap/Image_signing_key_delegation
How to allow deployments to sign their own images.
Feature roadmap/Faster_imaging
Feature roadmap/Activation_via_wireless
Power management
Feature roadmap/Improved_battery_life
Continuing to evolve software to wring all potential power savings out of the hardware. Timed wakeup, allowing screen blanking to recover power and allowing more aggressive suspending. Measuring power usage to avoid regressions. Testing for power against real world usage, pushing the remaining suspend-related bugs to completion.
Feature roadmap/No_power_regressions
Feature roadmap/Shutdown_menu
The power button is currently underutilized. It should allow either shutdown or suspend of the laptop, with the help of an on-screen dialog or menu.
Localization
Some key features from Software features in the area Localization
i18n and l10n: 9.1 and beyond
The areas I would like to cover include:
- Input methods: Our current input system (XKB) is not enough for Chinese/Japanese/Korean, and even existing customers like Ethiopia have needs which are met with considerable difficulty with XKB. For 9.1, I propose that we switch to SCIM[1], which should take care of most (if not all) of our current requirements.
- Multiple, non English fallback languages: Many of our users will probably be multilingual. An Aymara speaker would like to see the UI strings falling back to Spanish translations in absence of Aymara instead of the normal, default English. We have the existing infrastructure in our core i18n infrastructure, implementing this is simply a matter of making changes in Sugar (and maybe Rainbow).
- Language packs: The current system of language packs is not very reliable (it overwrites the original translations in the system, installations cannot be easily undone, no versioning, etc). I want to switch to a RPM based language pack system for 9.1, which will be easier to deploy (especially if the customization key mechanism gets support for RPM). This will require support for multiple locale directories, and I'll talk about that as well (Ubuntu uses a similar approach - I plan to reuse their patches if possible).
- User modifiable translations: There has been a number of ideas on this - initially (during my last visit to 1CC), we were thinking of a "Translate Activity" which would let children add/modify translations, and optionally let them share the translations over the mesh. SJ and Scott have recently suggested a wiki-like editable UI, which would, definitely be much cooler ;-). I want to brainstorm on this, and try to figure out the amount of time we need to do this, the advantages, risks, tradeoffs involved etc.
- Presenter: Sayamindu
Filesystems
Topics to be covered include: Why replace JFFS2, a summary of the existing alternatives, some preliminary performance data, an overview of all the SW stack changes required to implement a new filesystem. We will also discuss the alternative option of sticking to JFFS2 and trying to fix the known issues. See also: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Feature_roadmap/Replace_JFFS_file_system_with_better_one
Performance
System-level performance tweaks for UI responsiveness.
See also: Category:Performance
Dealing with Low Memory conditions
Thread started by Deepak on low memory at: http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2008-October/020543.html
See also: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Feature_roadmap/Memory_pressure
Teacher Training Competencies
Introductions
- Terri-Nicole Singleton
- Arts Educator – Great Lakes Theater Classical Literature Residency in over 275 K-12 classrooms
- K-8 Teacher, certified, highly-qualified
- 1-to1 laptop program
- Comparative Literature – in African-American and Spanish Literature – lived for 5 mos
- M.Ed John Carroll University
My job: Create a modular, reusable set of workshop training materials.
- Collect the “best of” what’s out there.
- Make it modifiable in other locations.
- Emphasize the pedagogy of how to teach with the tools as opposed to teaching specific content
- Caroline Meeks
- Solution Grove, Gardner School SoaS Pilot, Harvard Graduate School of Education
Data
Stories and examples of how Sugar has effectively been used to teach exemplars
- Tony: Nepal - Dr. Saurav (sp?) - Works well with English because the teachers did not have strong English skills. Not much use of activities because training did not focus on that.
- Eastern Nigeria - Danish Pedagogical new learning models and Schlumberger project: 1000 laptops, people in the old Draper building.
- Thailand -- they wanted simple spreadsheets, mindmap tools, presentation tools, all of which we have to some degree now
- Nigeria -- the Ibo spelling dictionary. (They needed one for Write, and made one by hand)
Questions
- Who else would be a good resource?
- What is success?
- What competencies do we want teachers to come out of training with so they can have these sort of successes.
John Gnu Block
- Replacing Sugar Totally - whether and how to climb out of the dead-end without further investment - gnu
- Consider eliminating DRM
Now that Fedora runs out of the box on the XO, it's become more obvious that shipping jailed laptops is bad policy. It's been done via a misguided "security = good" mindset and a lazy "fewer SKUs is easier" approach. - gnu
- Eliminating Mesh, keeping 802.11
Mesh barely works. We should expand our hardware choices and avoid locking our software into a failed effort, by moving our software and documentation to straight 802.11 ad-hoc and 802.11 access point configurations. We are almost there now, just need to clean up a few loose ends. - gnu
Asynchronous Collaboration
- File or Journal Object Sharing -- Ability to transfer information for distribution or asynchronous collaboration
- Collaboration
- -- Synchronous and asynchronous collaboration, definition and requirements.
- An idea for achieving greater scale for synchronous collaboration by using centralized management and groups.
- An explanation of how asynchornous collaboration can be used. A discussion of the lessons learned from the EduBlog and Amadis experiences and consideration of the applicability of Moodle.
- Also submitting homework and student - teacher interaction. See thread started by Yama on Devel: http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/sugar/2008-October/009472.htmland thread started by Mikus: http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2008-October/020436.html
- Gregorio 19:27, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
- -- Synchronous and asynchronous collaboration, definition and requirements.
- eBook Reader
Three parts below need to be combined. Gregorio 21:45, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
- Martin is very keen on this topic. We need something really compelling, standard and compatible for OLPC and all/most other viable platforms to win. Currently, every content project creates their own viewer (often webbased). We want to be able to show the content from a thousand sources, through a single viewer. We need something so easy for content creators to embrace, and so obviously good that they embrace it.
- What does an electronic textbook look like?
- Since the 1960s there have been experiments in high-powered educational software, but not a lot of textbook development that integrates this software into the text, and very little classroom experience. This session will look at the available materials, the types of software and content available, and the implications for future curricula.
- What do we know? What examples do we have and what do they show us?
- What opportunities can we see? How do we make this happen? What questions should we ask next?
- Examples:
- Edison Talking Typewriter to teach reading and writing to pre-school children
- Ken Iverson's textbooks, Arithmetic, Algebra, and Calculus
- Smalltalk and the Dynabook concept
- Matlab, Mathematica, and other powerful software
- Notebook and workspace formats and capabilities
- Teaching programming to children: TurteArt (sic), Smalltalk, Logo, APL, others
- Examples:
UPDATE: Alan Kay, Doug Engelbart, FLOSS Manuals, Open Learning Exchange, Creative Commons ccLearn, The Tech Museum of Innovation, and others have agreed in principle to join together to create a new kind of textbook. I'll invite them all to XOCamp. See Creating textbooks at Sugar Labs for more.
- Submitted by Ed Cherlin--Mokurai 02:13, 29 October 2008 (UTC), updated 19:47, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
Andrius Kulikauskas (ms@ms.lt), Minciu Sodas, working on open source materials for learning mathematics, and sharing ideas from the Includer, and connecting with independent thinkers in Africa and around the world.
Synchronous Collaboration
- Network principles -- how do we find others and collaborate with them?
- --User:CScott (I can give a talk on this topic)
- How much time is needed?
- Who can lead the discussion?
- What preparation and materials should be created (e.g. presentations, code samples, other)?
- --User:CScott (I can give a talk on this topic)
- Time Delayed internet --- offline caching and browsing, library integration?
- --User:CScott (I can make a brief proposal; I'd like to hear others present)
- How much time is needed?
- Who can lead the discussion?
- What preparation and materials should be created (e.g. presentations, code samples, other)?
- --User:CScott (I can make a brief proposal; I'd like to hear others present)
- Gadget -- improving XMPP server based presence
- Note: This was already presented at SugarCamp.
- How much time is needed?
- Who can lead the discussion?
- What preparation and materials should be created (e.g. presentations, code samples, other)?
- Note: This was already presented at SugarCamp.
Karma - Framework to make it stupid-easy to create Activities
Bryan Berry will talk about Karma, a framework that aims to make it stupid easy to create activities for the XO using Flash technologies
- Time - 60 - 90 minutes including discussion
- Bryan Berry will lead the discussion
- Powerpoint presentation will accompany the talk, along with demonstration
Pyjamas-desktop : Framework to make it easy to create FF-based activities
The Man In Black will talk about Pyjamas-desktop, a framework for writing AJAX apps in Python and running them locally, and what is needed to extend this into a framework for activity creation.
- Time - 60 minutes? discussion tied into Karma discussion
Teacher Training Competencies
Terri, Sugarlabs's intern from HGSE, will be creating and delivering teacher and parent training this spring. This will be a brainstorming session to collect ideas and resources.
Community Track
Community
- Why it matters
- In my view it is the whole bottom line, la raison d'être of the whole project. No matter the XO and us are agents in developing scientists, artists, lawyers, whatever (who anyway are wont to migrate North ASAP), if there is not a process of community getting built among people who are not familiar with the culture and processes of collaboration, we are for naught, except maybe in making things worse. And of course, it is not at all just about sharing an activity, which is a software/hardware issue, it's the whole concept of building things together, sharing, being open to give and take, losing the "no te metás" (don't get involved) mentality. Yamaplos 17:33, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
- Discuss specific strategies so that all the rest of the software / hardware effort is not wasted
- Specific fixes to software and hardware
- How much time is needed? a couple lifetimes? OK, gimme an hour at least, maybe in such a way that it can overflow into dinner or lunch
- Who can lead the discussion?
Yama
-
- I'm leaving this section in case anyone wants to follow up. I was told there is no funding at all for volunteers besides some fundraising happening on the side (link?), so I will not be going. Actually the very fact that a whole track is dedicated to community but there is no formal funding set aside to bring in community people proves community issues are many, not taken seriously, and it's not only a bottom-up problem... Yamaplos 16:31, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
- What preparation and materials should be created (e.g. presentations, code samples, other)? I have volunteered EquipoSur_XOCamp2 to help
Distributing OLPC
- Summary: Open discussion to address the following questions.
- How can OLPC encourage worldwide decentralized community development models for pedagogy and the content and software to support it?
- How can communication between/among OLPC-the-organization and grassroots pedagogical, content, and software developers be improved?
- Define, clarify channels. Who do you contact for a small deployment? How do you distribute not just green bricks but knowledge and training? Who should you contact in 1CC for what kind of issue? Yamaplos 19:39, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
- Whether and how we want the volunteer community to help us with 9.1
- If OLPC-the-organizations says that we support the open-source mentality and that we encourage volunteers, we should articulate exactly what kind of volunteer support we want and need, the kind of relationship the organization would like to have with the community, and the kind of support (including support and resources that are conditional) we can provide them with. Mchua 16:54, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
- I personally think that it is especially important to articulate the kind of volunteer projects we won't support and do not have resources for, so that community members know what they have to do completely independently of OLPC. Knowing the answer is a no is better, for planning and getting-things-done purposes, than remaining in a nebulous "maybe?" state. Mchua 16:54, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
- totally second both points Yamaplos
- How much time is needed - 1 hour
- Who can lead the discussion - Rafael, (Mel available for backup)
- What preparation and materials should be created (e.g. presentations, code samples, other)?
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- I am working on a 10-minute "canned" presentation to be used for getting people non-familiar with the program to get enough to jump in - Far from ready, but hope it will be Yamaplos 17:23, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
Status - On track to include. Next steps, ToC for presentation.
- Why is this under "software engineering"? No doubt there are software-related issues we need to address, but this is primarily a wetware issue. The tools are there, agreed they are not perfect, yet the fact they are not being used has to do with how we reach (or miss reaching) people, not with hardware or software. Yamaplos 17:57, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
QA
See the log at XOCamp 2/QA.
Co-moderated by Mel Chua (OLPC QA Community) and Ed McNierney (OLPC VP of Software). All are welcome; the format's a bit unusual, as this started as "Mel and Ed should have a meeting to talk about QA going forward," ran into "But there's no time, and the community should be involved anyway," and rapidly turned into "well, why don't we just invite everyone else and have it at XOCamp?"
In a nutshell, OLPC has a QA staff of 0 as of Jan 9, 2009, but testing still needs to be done.
Proposal
3 areas of focus for the community, with OLPC-the-org support - big question: What does OLPC need to do now so that it doesn't have to do QA ever in the future if it doesn't want to?
- Integration testing (minor, pushing out to other groups - over time this will diminish as we become more distribution/software agnostic) - "Fedora! You guys need to do your testing!"
- System testing / testbeds (major, turning into minor)
- Acceptance testing at deployments (minor, turning into major, but being done by not-OLPC-the-organization) - hopefully eventually deployments will be sending software images to OLPC!
History
- Community capabilities and activities so far
- Friends in Testing (Brian Pepple - previously Michael Stone and Joe Feinstein)
- G1G1 Activity testing and local test groups (Tabitha, Alastair, the Welly Testers, et al)
- Test case/results reporting infrastructure, with plenty of Semantic Mediawiki Magic (Skierpage, Carl, etc.)
- Other things; cool tools? Great insights! (Gary, Ben, Various People Who Are All Named Chris)
General concerns
- Concerns about organization/communication (Mel: I think these concerns are right now too generic for us to address, but we should certainly keep them in mind.)
- Will local organization of test groups scale?
Current OLPC testing efforts
- Things that we know will need software QA: what's the gameplan?
- 8.2.1 interim release (testing managed by Mel, Mel to present the current status/plan) Gameplan:
- 17 bugs, see http://dev.laptop.org/report/38
- Immediate next step: 5 in the stage where we can test them (test in build)
- Immediate next next step: check with the committer of the patch (deepak, etc.) and see if there are areas of potential regression to test around
- If There Is Time: regression risk analysis for "add to release" tickets (2), but this is lower-hanging fruit.
- Question: How does this interact with triage?
- Question: What criteria do you want for us to set for QA signoffs? (Who can sign off, etc?)
- 8.2.1 interim release (testing managed by Mel, Mel to present the current status/plan) Gameplan:
- For 8.2.1, Ed is the signoff person.
- 9.1.0 release (testing managed by... migration to Fedora!)
- Acceptance testing at deployments: Something we haven't done a lot of yet
- What are the other things that will need QA in the near future? the not so near future?
- What kind of tools and info access are needed to carry out that testing?
- What resources can OLPC provide community testers with?
- How can we encourage local testing groups like the one in Welly to form up?
- And more?
Tools
- semantic mediawiki test cases and test reporting forms. This is... functional, but sort of awkward. Potential to explore alternative solutions - not sure if we have manpower to allocate this yet, but if this is a priority for you, I'll make it so. (Alternative: spreadsheets, which Mel is not particularly psyched about, but sure.)
- skierpage, carl, gary, cjl have been particularly helpful in this area, thank you!
People
- Do you have minimum requirements for people contributing to the 8.2.1 (and future) test efforts?
- I don't.
- Big focus of community test: training/teaching newcomers. A lot of testing seems to be learned by people on the fly anyway, let's see if we can step that up.
equipment
- Do volunteers have access to large enough testbeds to do, say, 50 XOs + XS testing? (Interim solution: visit 1cc and use their testbeds, but this is suboptimal to say the least.)
- I am assuming that we will operate out of the testbeds at 1cc for 8.2.1 by default, and that I'll come in / send in local volunteers to use this testbed. Is this ok?
- I count 118 "test" XOs around 1cc. Who is responsible for them now?
- Request: that we get 500 XOs allocated to community testing, in the form of 5 Change The World deployment shipments, one per month for the first 5 months of 2009 (Jan-May). Mchua will take personal responsibility for making sure (or finding someone who you'll be comfortable with making sure) these XOs will be allocated, tracked, and results from the groups receiving them made useful to OLPC in a way that OLPC (Ed, most likely) will be happy with.
- Usage:
- 400 of these XOs should seed 8 large-scale dedicated system testbeds (50 XOs per testbed) at engineering colleges or other institutions (in particular, with RF equipment). Minimum of one per continent with a deployment, and one per type of environment (urban, rural, etc.)
- The remaining 100 XOs can be distributed in smaller (10 XO, perhaps) beds to groups without this equipment but who wish to specialize in a particular type of testing that relies on XOs being present - power, for example.
- We are close to having groups formally lined up to take the first large-scale testbed on: UWMadison, and possibly SFSU. Oceania would be an easy second spot, possibly followed by a deployment support community in Peru, Uruguay, or Paraguay - note that Madison is solid, but the rest of them are bigger guesses as to where I think we'd start.)
- Cost to OLPC: If $21,900 is enough to fund shipping to a single Change The World deployment, then $21,900x5 = $109,500 is enough for 5, distributed across 5 months,
- Usage:
- Special super extra bonus: community/travel/shipping funds would be fantastic; even better would be permission to ask for funds on behalf of ourselves (for instance, say Gary wanted to spend a week working at the testbed nearest to him, right before a release - how could this trip be funded?)
coordination with upstream testing
- Fedora (Mel does not know very much about Fedora QA, or if this handoff has been managed yet, or if the responsibility needs to be picked up.) Reference: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA
- Sugar Labs: should we be moving Activity (and other) testing upstream to Sugar Labs (note Sugar Labs does not test; they have a bug squad, see http://sugarlabs.org/go/BugSquad.)
Community infrastructure collab
Work out how to coordinate efforts with Fedora's Community Infrastructure group. Streamlining discussion, testing, and more. How do we build a lasting infrastructure so that local groups can carry out their own education projects / help empower projects in their communities? How can we share knowledge and inspiration across different types and styles of education efforts using Sugar and XO? What is the role for a strong research community in building infrastructure (including funding and visibility)? Specifics:
- community processes that have worked and that have not, effective arms of local organizations (in PR, in event organization, in design, in school or uni outreach)
- what engagement programs are most important? OLPC has contrib programs but doesn't send swag kits. Have the XOs for Fedora groups been useful? Would more be? Is sticker famine fatal? And more.
- how should we follow up with ongoing project maintainers? surveys, emails, pairing up, mentoring.
- how should we make best use of Summer of Code and other regular interns? Division of labor and effort; what is upstream and what is not.
- Roadshows : how to show off the best of both Fedora and OLPC with a compact kit and demo materials. Notes from the field -- from Diane, Mel, and more.
- --Sj talk 19:24, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
- Follow up owner - SJ
- Time needed: 90 minutes
- Discussion leaders - SJ, Holt, GDK?
Moodle and Content
Above all we need free (CC or equivalent) educational content aimed at primary school students. This content should be deliverable by Moodle (or what is a Moodle for?). It needs a host (school.sugarlabs.org or ...). We need to energize the community to contribute. Possible contributors (university faculty and students, deployments, G1G1 owners, ....). Possible sources (existing Moodle courses repurposed, currwiki, connexions, Open Learning, WGBH).
- Time needed: 60 minutes
- Discussion leaders - Tony Anderson and interested volunteers
Moodle and Content [discuss building host for open educational resources deliverable via the schoolserver and Moodle - Tony Anderson]
List of Presentations for Download
- Deployment Notes for Nepal (odp) - Bryan Berry
- How to startup an OLPC deployment in your country (odp) - Bryan Berry
- Karma is not for Hackers (odp) - Bryan Berry
- Uruguay Presentation slides (pdf)
- File:DigitalTextbooks.odp Sharp Tools and Powerful Ideas in Digital Textbooks, Mokurai's talk
- Diagram of Sugar release roadmap - Marco/Bernie's talk (drawn by SJ, digitized by Brian), diagram of Custom builds and notes on NAND-blasting - Reuben's talk (digitized by Brian)