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The Koran
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Like a bright new morning <br>
Like a bright new day <br>
I woke up from a deep sleep <br>
I woke up from a bad dream <br>


To a brand new morning <br>
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To a brand new day <br>
Like the whole world has been made again<br>
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'''New beginning...''' clean talk page!


Don't worry, '''all''' your posts have been preserved in [[User talk:Xavi/Archive|my archive]]. The only thing that I changed there is that I tried to group the posts by subject area: [[User talk:Xavi/Archive#Translation|translations]], the [[User talk:Xavi/Archive#Wiki|wiki]], and [[User talk:Xavi/Archive#Social & others|others]]. They've also been ''chronologically reversed'', so in each area, the oldest are at the bottom.
The Romans
In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful.


That said: welcome to my talk page! Please feel free to post in english, spanish or french &mdash; portuñol I may be able to decipher, maybe some italiano (sorry, no asian languages in my bag) &mdash; on whatever subject :) [[User:Xavi|Xavi]] 01:16, 17 September 2007 (EDT)
[30.1] Alif Lam Mim.

[30.2] The Romans are vanquished,
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[30.3] In a near land, and they, after being vanquished, shall overcome,

[30.4] Within a few years. Allah's is the command before and after; and on that day the believers shall rejoice,
== It's about time :) just joking. ==
[30.5] With the help of Allah; He helps whom He pleases; and He is the Mighty, the Merciful;

[30.6] (This is) Allah's promise! Allah will not fail His promise, but most people do not know.
I just couldn't resist being the first to post something on your '''Clean''' page <br>:) --[[User:Chief Mike|Chief Mike]] 08:04, 17 September 2007 (EDT)
[30.7] They know the outward of this world's life, but of the hereafter they are absolutely heedless.
¿ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marillion ?
[30.8] Do they not reflect within themselves: Allah did not create the heavens and the earth and what is between them two but with truth, and (for) an appointed term? And most surely most of the people are deniers of the meeting of their Lord.
: thanks! and oops! wikipedia.org vs. .com ... much better! [[User:Xavi|Xavi]]
[30.9] Have they not travelled in the earth and seen how was the end of those before them? They were stronger than these in prowess, and dug up the earth, and built on it in greater abundance than these have built on it, and there came to them their apostles with clear arguments; so it was not beseeming for Allah that He should deal with them unjustly, but they dealt unjustly with their own souls.

[30.10] Then evil was the end of those who did evil, because they | rejected the communications of Allah and used to mock them.
<gallery>
[30.11] Allah originates the creation, then reproduces it, then to Him you shall be brought back.
Image:Pinoy's_have_first_XO-1.JPG|Filipino Children have first XO-1
[30.12] And at the time when the hour shall come the guilty shall be in despair.
Image:OLPC-PH_provincial_Board-Room.JPG|Newly constructed<br>OLPCPH Provincial Board-Room
[30.13] And they shall not have any intercessors from among their gods they have joined with God, and they shall be deniers of their associate-gods.
Image:OLPCPH_BoardRoom.JPG|Newly constructed<br>OLPCPH Provincial Board-Room
[30.14] And at the time when the hour shall come, at that time they shall become separated one from the other.
Image:MathLab_plus_XO-1.JPG|Math lab At Principals home
[30.15] Then as to those who believed and did good, they shall be made happy in a garden.
</gallery> Hi,<br>
[30.16] And as to those who disbelieved and rejected Our communications and the meeting of the hereafter, these shall be brought over to the chastisement.
Been too long of a time since last x-change of comms sorry I've been very busy promoting here in the Rural:Philippines :)<br> PS:? I tried to create a Pootle account a while back without success :(<br> --[[User:Chief Mike|Chief Mike]] 10:50, 8 April 2008 (EDT)
[30.17] Therefore glory be to Allah when you enter upon the time of the evening and when you enter upon the time of the morning.

[30.18] And to Him belongs praise in the heavens and the earth, and at nightfall and when you are at midday.
== [[Benjamin Mako Hill]] ==
[30.19] He brings forth the living from the dead and brings forth the dead from the living, and gives life to the earth after its death, and thus shall you be brought forth.

[30.20] And one of His signs is that He created you from dust, then lo! you are mortals (who) scatter.
As you can perhaps see from history of [[Benjamin Mako Hill|the page in question]], I did not create that page. It is a biographical page about me because of my involvement with the project. I have a user page which I have created.
[30.21] And one of His signs is that He created mates for you from yourselves that you may find rest in them, and He put between you love and compassion; most surely there are signs in this for a people who reflect.

[30.22] And one of His signs is the creation of the heavens and the earth and the diversity of your tongues and colors; most surely there are signs in this for the learned.
If you don't think the main namespace should exist, please go ahead and delete it. It does not bother me. —<b>[[User:Benjamin Mako Hill|<font color="#C40099">m</font><font color="#600099">a</font><font color="#2D0399">k</font><font color="#362365">o</font>]][[User_talk:Benjamin Mako Hill|<font color="#000000">๛</font>]]</b> 00:35, 20 September 2007 (EDT)
[30.23] And one of His signs is your sleeping and your seeking of His grace by night and (by) day; most surely there are signs in this for a people who would hear.

[30.24] And one of His signs is that He shows you the lightning for fear and for hope, and sends down water from the clouds then gives life therewith to the earth after its death; most surely there are signs in this for a people who understand
== RE: Status of Measure in OBX template ==
[30.25] And one of His signs is that the heaven and the earth subsist by His command, then when He calls you with a (single) call from out of the earth, lo! you come forth.

[30.26] And His is whosoever is in the heavens and the earth; all are obedient to Him.
''follow-up to [[User talk:Xavi#Status of Measure in OBX template]]
[30.27] And He it is Who originates the creation, then reproduces it, and it is easy to Him; and His are the most exalted attributes in the heavens and the earth, and He is the Mighty, the Wise.
: Oops! yes you're right. And yes, 'bundled' seems fine. The categorization is still not totally defined (that's why they are red/missing), so any suggestions & feedback are more than welcome.
[30.28] He sets forth to you a parable relating to yourselves: Have you among those whom your right hands possess partners in what We have given you for sustenance, so that with respect to it you are alike; you fear them as you fear each other? Thus do We make the communications distinct for a people who understand.
: I haven't removed the old {{tl|Status box}} as I want to make sure there are no objections, and that the OBXes are helpful. Comments? :) --[[User:Xavi|Xavi]] 11:20, 22 September 2007 (EDT)
[30.29] Nay! those who are unjust follow their low desires without any knowledge; so who can guide him whom Allah makes err? And they shall have no helpers.
::I love the OBXes! They concisely convey all the most important things a new user might want to know about any activity. Although, I cannot think of any now, I would let you know of any suggestions for additional fields in the OBXes. Great work on the OBXes! --[[User:Arjs|Arjs]] 11:53, 22 September 2007 (EDT)
[30.30] Then set your face upright for religion in the right state-- the nature made by Allah in which He has made men; there is no altering of Allah's creation; that is the right religion, but most people do not know--

[30.31] Turning to Him, and be careful of (your duty to) Him and keep up prayer and be not of the polytheists
== RE: Talk:Greece_Test_Reports not in english ==
[30.32] Of those who divided their religion and became seas every sect rejoicing in what they had with them

[30.33] And when harm afflicts men, they call upon their Lord, turning to Him, then when He makes them taste of mercy from Him, lo! some of them begin to associate (others) with their Lord,
It seems that I keep stumbling across some of your past requests :) and wish you had added a Category:Needs Translation to english or ??? <br>Said page has been Translated: I opened two tabs of edit the page, translated first with babel fish, and cut / pasted line for line after the Δεδομένα (''Data'') into the second tabbed page. This only works good for me on short pages.
[30.34] So as to be ungrateful for what We have given them; but enjoy yourselves (for a while), for you shall soon come to know.

[30.35] Or, have We sent down upon them an authority so that it speaks of that which they associate with Him?
For many languages not available at google translate try Yahoo! BabelFish. I don't know if it could work as a parser function template though?
[30.36] And when We make people taste of mercy they rejoice in it, and if an evil befall them for what their hands have already wrought, lo! they are in despair.
http://babelfish.yahoo.com/free_trans_service
[30.37] Do they not see that Allah makes ample provision for whom He pleases, or straitens? Most surely there are signs in this for a people who believe.
--[[User:Chief Mike|Chief Mike]] 04:09, 24 September 2007 (EDT) "'''This User edits using Firefox-2'''" :)
[30.38] Then give to the near of kin his due, and to the needy and the wayfarer; this is best for those who desire Allah's pleasure, and these it is who are successful.

[30.39] And whatever you lay out as usury, so that it may increase in the property of men, it shall not increase with Allah; and whatever you give in charity, desiring Allah's pleasure-- it is these (persons) that shall get manifold.
== Maintain the PO files. ==
[30.40] Allah is He Who created you, then gave you sustenance, then He causes you to die, then brings you to life. Is there any of your associate-gods who does aught of it? Glory be to Him, and exalted be He above what they associate (with Him).

[30.41] Corruption has appeared in the land and the sea on account of what the hands of men have wrought, that He may make them taste a part of that which they have done, so that they may return.
Really nice job of you.Awesome! Thanks for your co-operative activities.
[30.42] Say: Travel in the land, then see how was the end of those before; most of them were polytheists.
[30.43] Then turn thy face straight to the right religion before there come from Allah the day which cannot be averted; on that day they shall become separated.
One thing i would like to acknowledge you ,it would be more effective if we maintain the po files
[30.44] Whoever disbelieves, he shall be responsible for his disbelief, and whoever does good, they prepare (good) for their own souls,
much more generic.Since some string or sentences has been frequently repeated in different po files,so if
[30.45] That He may reward those who believe and do good out of His grace; surely He does not love the unbelievers.
we resolve this redundancy in each po file it would more efficient to work.
[30.46] And one of His signs is that He sends forth the winds bearing good news, and that He may make your taste of His mercy, and that the ships may run by His command, and that you may seek of His grace, and that you may be grateful.

[30.47] And certainly We sent before you apostles to their people, so they came to them with clear arguments, then We gave the punishment to those who were guilty; and helping the believers is ever incumbent on Us.
: Thanks [[User:Nirmal|Nirmal]], I'm just trying to help :)
[30.48] Allah is he Who sends forth the winds so they raise a cloud, then He spreads it forth in the sky as He pleases, and He breaks it up so that you see the rain coming forth from inside it; then when He causes it to fall upon whom He pleases of His servants, lo! they are joyful
: As for making more effective the POs (or rather the POTs) that depends (mostly? exclusively?) on the developers, afaik. BTW, I agree totally with you as I've seen lots of replicated strings (specially in [[TamTam]] files). I'm not an expert on the subject, but some tools do provide things like 'memory' so you will actually be reusing the translated strings associated to previous translations, saving you the effort. BTW, the in-wiki solution is not really optimal as the tools can't be used, but at least it address some issues we are having :) [[User:Xavi|Xavi]] 09:40, 29 September 2007 (EDT)
[30.49] Though they were before this, before it was sent down upon them, confounded in sure despair.

[30.50] Look then at the signs of Allah's mercy, how He gives life to the earth after its death, most surely He will raise the dead to life; and He has power over all things.
:: ticket updated... [[User:Sj|Sj]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Sj|<font color="fc9"><small>talk</small></font>]]
[30.51] And if We send a wind and they see it to be yellow, they would after that certainly continue to disbelieve

[30.52] For surely you cannot, make the dead to hear and you cannot make the deaf to hear the call, when they turn back and
== deleting popular pages ==
[30.53] Nor can you lead away the blind out of their error. You cannot make to hear any but those who believe in Our communications so they shall submit.

[30.54] Allah is He Who created you from a state of weakness then He gave strength after weakness, then ordained weakness and hoary hair after strength; He creates what He pleases, and He is the Knowing, the Powerful.
dont forget that it is more than just the in'wiki linksthat break when a page i deleted rather than left asa redirect. for pages that have become popular over months, or even a few very prominent weeks, including any page that was linked rom the main page, it is good to leave the original page title and have it redirect [once] to the nerw page. at the same time, fix doubleredirects by removing anything that is onwiki and points to the old page title...
[30.55] And at the time when the hour shall come, the guilty shall swear (that) they did not tarry but an hour; thus are they ever turned away.

[30.56] And those who are given knowledge and faith will say: Certainly you tarried according to the ordinance of Allah till the day of resurrection, so this is the day of resurrection, but you did not know.

[30.57] But on that day their excuse shall not profit those who were unjust, nor shall they be regarded with goodwill.
finally ,in addition to keeping links on the web and in blog posts from breaking, you want people who are typing a url by handto go somewhere expected...even if it is no longer the page title, ifsomeone might guess it, better to save them from having to search. that said, nice celanup job :) andthx for helping finishthe demo notes title moves [[User:Sj|Sj]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Sj|<font color="fc9"><small>talk</small></font>]] 22:05, 3 October 2007 (EDT)
[30.58] And certainly We have set forth for men every kind of example in this Quran; and if you should bring them a communication, those who disbelieve would certainly say: You are naught but false claimants.

[30.59] Thus does Allah set a seal on the hearts of those who do not know.
== re: wiki admin? ==
[30.60] Therefore be patient; surely the promise of Allah is true and let not those who have no certainty hold you in light estimation.

It looks like someone tagged me as admin, because I have a whole lot more tabs now. Thanks, Xavi! &mdash;[[User:Leejc|Joe]] 19:50, 9 October 2007 (EDT)

== opentasks! ==
Please start using and updating [[:Template:Opentasks]] ... [[User:Sj|Sj]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Sj|<font color="fc9"><small>talk</small></font>]] 01:30, 14 October 2007 (EDT)

== blocks ==
try 3 months blocks for the gibberish-spammers; they come back. [[User:Sj|Sj]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Sj|<font color="fc9"><small>talk</small></font>]] 09:47, 14 October 2007 (EDT)

== Bulgaria Translation ==

Hey, thanks for moving the pages. However, I had left them outside the naming convention, because they were not done. In a way, I created the new pages as my temporary working place. So, please, next time ask me before you make serious changes. Again, I appreciate your help! --[[User:Cryout|Cryout]] 14:46, 16 October 2007 (EDT)

== time for commons-style multilingual guidelines? ==
[[Cang_Jie_imes]] is my favorite new page in a while. It looks like we'll need some standard way to help people find all of the pages in their language; and to have short messages in many languages on a single talk page... have you looked at some of the multilingual extensions wikimedia commons uses? They manage to keep lots of languages together on a single page. we also need a proper water cooler where community members can share questions and ideas less formally than creating new pages for the mor added them to 'olpc lists' and FAQ... [[User:Sj|Sj]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Sj|<font color="fc9"><small>talk</small></font>]] 05:07, 17 October 2007 (EDT)

== Portuguese changes ==

Hi Xavi... FYI: Someone changed a Portuguese language template in a way that is similar to the vandalbots, but not identical: [[Template:Translation/changes/lang-pt]]. I'm not sure if this is actually vandalism, so I reverted my rollback; perhaps you are more familiar with the language? &mdash;[[User:Leejc|Joe]] 21:29, 28 October 2007 (EDT)

== Publishing translation on the laptop.org website ==

Hi, Xavi,
I am now almost down with the Bulgrian translation of laptop.org and I don't know how to close the project. What is the process for getting the translation live? Currently I enlisted a few people to make corrections, so I am doing some quality control. What is next? Thanks a lot. --[[User:Cryout|Cryout]] 10:47, 4 November 2007 (EST)
: Thank you for directing me to Walter. I wrote to him and will be waiting for his answer. About recruiting more translators, I am in the process at the moment. A name was suggested to me from a Bulgarian Linus-translating community and I am now trying to get in contact. --[[User:Cryout|Cryout]] 10:31, 5 November 2007 (EST)

== [[OLPC_Brasil/Porto_Alegre]] (A pilot School?) ==

Hi, I translated this from Portuguese-English but, ¿is it truly a '''Pilot school''' located there as you marked/tagged it? <br>:) [[User:Chief Mike|Chief Mike]] 05:04, 8 November 2007 (EST)

== Thanks for restoring me ==

Hi, thanks for re-creating me and the other users who were maliciously deleted 11/21/07. So sorry we live in a world where that task is necessary..... ~ [[User:Hexagonal|Hexagonal]]

== [[Translation terms]]: to delete or not to delete ==

Hi I just noticed that you tagged [[Translation terms]] which I started to use yesterday as a page to be deleted. I know about Pootle translation project, but there are a couple of reasons why I wanted to have an en-ru translation glossary page. First of all we came across a situation when one term (Activity, to be exact) may be translated differently in different contexts. Then in some cases we feel a need to discuss the best translation for each case before it is finalized, and it is better to do it in an open way rather than in private correspondence. So this page was created as a draft page for translation terms before they go to Pootle. I asked a question about it on the discussion page, but nobody seemed to respond :-) --[[User:Biarm|Biarm]] 23:05, 28 November 2007 (EST)

: Hi Xavi. I would appreciate any technically sound solution that will allow to suggest variants of translations and discuss them. If it is possible to arrange that as a part of Pootle's terminology project, it is fine with me. I just think that PTP is something more advanced. And my concern is about volunteer translators who come to localize various wiki pages and need some easy to handle wiki glossary to play with the translation template and have some initial practice. It is just to early to redirect those people to the Pootle server. (This is exactly the situation that we have with Russian translations). So my suggestion would be to keep a draft glossary wiki page somewhere (to me [[Translation terms]] serves this purpose well and, as soon as a term is finalized, transfer it to the Pootle glossary. Does that make sense? :-) --[[User:Biarm|Biarm]] 09:42, 30 November 2007 (EST)

== Thanks for the gallery markup on the Simplified user guide ==
Great edits on the user guide, I really appreciate it. Makes for much easier scrolling. And I wouldn't have known about the markup for layout so I appreciate it - teaching me wikitext, awesome.
--[[User:Annegentle|annegentle]] 08:58, 30 November 2007 (EST)

==Getting started in Pootle==1/
hi..I've signed up to Pootle as my girlfriend might be able to translate some sections into Turkish, but when I go here https://dev.laptop.org/translate/tr/ there are no entries... How do I get started? --[[User:Tomhannen|Tomhannen]] 10:13, 9 December 2007 (EST)

== In Argentina in January ==
Xavi! I'm traveling to Argentina for a wedding in January. I'll be in BA
1/10 and 1/11, in Mendoza 1/12 through 1/14, and back in BA from 1/15 to 1/17. Where are you? And will you be around? --[[User:Lauren|Lauren]] 12:06, 13 December 2007 (EST)

== interwiki linking ==

Xavi:

Here's my [[User:BlankVerse/test|page]] testing interwiki links. It looks like most of the common MediaWiki interwiki links are enabled. It's just the one to the English-language Wikipedia that doesn't work (e.g. [[WikiPedia:User:BlankVerse]] or [[WikiPedia:Argentina]]). I left a message on [[User:sj]]'s [[User talk:sj#Interwiki|talk page]], since he is as close as I've found to a MediaWiki expert on the OLPC wiki. ''[[User:BlankVerse|<font color="green">Blank</font>]][[User talk:BlankVerse|<font color="#F88017">Verse</font>]]'' 19:59, 28 December 2007 (EST)

== Hola! ==

Welcome back. Lauren should be there for another few days. I believe she is in Uruguay now and then coming back through Arg... email may be the best way to reach her. And Tomeu is here in Boston for a week and says 'hello!'. --[[User:Sj|Sj]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Sj|<font color="fc9" style="font-size:70%">leave me a message</font>]] 21:04, 14 January 2008 (EST)
: ps -- there was some recent korean spam here, reminding me we should check up on our friend [[user:php5|php5]]... --[[User:Sj|Sj]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Sj|<font color="fc9" style="font-size:70%">leave me a message</font>]]

== Xoxo/Statistics ==

Xavi,

Saw your cool stats pages, in [[Xoxo/Statistics]]. I'm guessing that those pages were auto-generated. And I'd be interested in seeing them continue (But maybe not in the main user space... maybe 'OLPC:Statistics' ???

Also, I don't know if you have heard, but a bunch of the recent new users (myself included) are interesting in starting up a regular online [[Weekly_zine|'XO Laptop 'zine ']]. With a little background search, I discovered that you and several others tried to do something similar 3 to 4 months ago.

Would you be interested in helping us out, or chipping in ... in someway? Lots of chatter about it on irc #olpc-support-gang ....

Thanks, --[[User:IainDavidson|IainD]]
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: In fact, we will need our own chan for it soon. Let's talk about how to get these translated -- I really want the first ed. to be in 3 languages. --[[User:Sj|Sj]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Sj|<font color="fc9" style="font-size:70%">leave me a message</font>]] 09:01, 17 January 2008 (EST)
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Sj,

I believe that Seth is working on putting the pieces together. (Which reminds me, I'll need to get my part done soon! :)
Looks like we have several espanol people on the gang list. Which three languages are you thinking of ? The rest of the languages we could do a 'lazy translate' with Google/langauge. What do you mean by 'own chan' ?? --[[User:IainD|iainD]] 07:56, 18 January 2008 (EST)
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== Help out a new translator? ==

I have a translator, [[User:Wing]], who can do traditional and some simplified Chinese, but doesn't really understand how the translation templates work. I haven't done anything with them, so I don't have a lot of background in it. Right now he is just translating blocks of text from http://laptop.org and storing them as .doc files with the original text included, so he is getting work done, but at some point he will need to put this into a template. Help?

--[[User:Nlee|Nikki]] 13:58, 23 January 2008 (EST)

== How can I help with Spanish for Update-1? ==

I'm es-4, not native, but email me using the wiki if you have a specific translating task for me - I'm 100% confident I can review/test an activity, 95% confident I can do a new activity from scratch, and only about 80% confident with big chunks of text like mmm-lessonplans (me salen bien legibles, pero no sin errores. De hecho, haber aprendido a leer en ingles primero es una ventaja en lo que respeta la ortografía, la única ventaja de tener un idioma tan ilógico...). I'm not interested in doing the wiki, just the device. Thanks! [[User:Homunq|Homunq]] 14:21, 4 February 2008 (EST)

== More [[translators]] like you ==

We need more people like you to help with the translators community... where do you recommend we look? --[[User:Sj|Sj]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Sj|<font style="color:#f70; font-size:70%">talk</font>]] 09:53, 19 February 2008 (EST)
: Check out some of Homunq's new work on the translation template... --[[User:Sj|Sj]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Sj|<font style="color:#f70; font-size:70%">talk</font>]] 22:13, 26 February 2008 (EST)

== Translated Pages is too large to display ==

See my comment at http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Talk:Translated_pages --[[User:Dupuy|@alex]] 00:53, 28 March 2008 (EDT)

== Xoxo/Statistics pages ==

Just doing some wiki-cleanup and while I was looking through the orphaned pages, I noticed about 40 pages you made of type Xoxo/Statistics. . . Are they worth keeping for historical reasons? I notice most of them have very low view counts (about 15-20). [[User:Cjl|Cjl]] 16:38, 14 April 2008 (EDT)
: These are still very popular, by the way! --[[User:Sj|Sj]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Sj|<font style="color:#f70; font-size:70%">talk</font>]] 01:53, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

== Cambodia ==
Hi Xavi, I'm a former OLPC employee at the OLPC EU HQ in Brussels, preparing a trip to visit my wife's family in Cambodia. Preparing to meet the Minister of Education of Cambodia. Saw you on http://wiki.laptop.org/index.php?title=OLPC_Cambodia&action=history ... do you have any special interest to Cambodia in particular? Can you team-up / coach me? Thx--[[User:SvenAERTS|SvenAERTS]] 05:02, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

== Metrics and Evaluation ==
Dear Xavi I'm building upon your 2006 writings http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_talk:Mission#Metrics .This has lead me to create the following categories, which are the most efficient way to pull together pages that have usefull info on this topic and where people might be interested in further reading on the topics of Category:Metrics , Category:Metrics , Feeback and Evaluation, Category:Evaluation

[[Category:Metrics, Feedback and Evaluation]]
[[Category:Feedback]]
[[Category:Metrics]]
[[Category:Evaluation]]

--[[User:SvenAERTS|SvenAERTS]] 12:00, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 13:26, 3 August 2013

«Made Again»
Marillion

Like a bright new morning
Like a bright new day
I woke up from a deep sleep
I woke up from a bad dream

To a brand new morning
To a brand new day
Like the whole world has been made again

New beginning... clean talk page!

Don't worry, all your posts have been preserved in my archive. The only thing that I changed there is that I tried to group the posts by subject area: translations, the wiki, and others. They've also been chronologically reversed, so in each area, the oldest are at the bottom.

That said: welcome to my talk page! Please feel free to post in english, spanish or french — portuñol I may be able to decipher, maybe some italiano (sorry, no asian languages in my bag) — on whatever subject :) Xavi 01:16, 17 September 2007 (EDT)

It's about time :) just joking.

I just couldn't resist being the first to post something on your Clean page
:) --Chief Mike 08:04, 17 September 2007 (EDT) ¿ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marillion ?

thanks! and oops! wikipedia.org vs. .com ... much better! Xavi
  • Filipino Children have first XO-1

    Filipino Children have first XO-1

  • Newly constructed OLPCPH Provincial Board-Room

    Newly constructed
    OLPCPH Provincial Board-Room

  • Newly constructed OLPCPH Provincial Board-Room

    Newly constructed
    OLPCPH Provincial Board-Room

  • Math lab At Principals home

    Math lab At Principals home

Hi,

Been too long of a time since last x-change of comms sorry I've been very busy promoting here in the Rural:Philippines :)
PS:? I tried to create a Pootle account a while back without success :(
--Chief Mike 10:50, 8 April 2008 (EDT)

Benjamin Mako Hill

As you can perhaps see from history of the page in question, I did not create that page. It is a biographical page about me because of my involvement with the project. I have a user page which I have created.

If you don't think the main namespace should exist, please go ahead and delete it. It does not bother me. —mako๛ 00:35, 20 September 2007 (EDT)

RE: Status of Measure in OBX template

follow-up to User talk:Xavi#Status of Measure in OBX template

Oops! yes you're right. And yes, 'bundled' seems fine. The categorization is still not totally defined (that's why they are red/missing), so any suggestions & feedback are more than welcome.
I haven't removed the old {{Status box}} as I want to make sure there are no objections, and that the OBXes are helpful. Comments? :) --Xavi 11:20, 22 September 2007 (EDT)
I love the OBXes! They concisely convey all the most important things a new user might want to know about any activity. Although, I cannot think of any now, I would let you know of any suggestions for additional fields in the OBXes. Great work on the OBXes! --Arjs 11:53, 22 September 2007 (EDT)

RE: Talk:Greece_Test_Reports not in english

It seems that I keep stumbling across some of your past requests :) and wish you had added a Category:Needs Translation to english or ???
Said page has been Translated: I opened two tabs of edit the page, translated first with babel fish, and cut / pasted line for line after the Δεδομένα (Data) into the second tabbed page. This only works good for me on short pages.

For many languages not available at google translate try Yahoo! BabelFish. I don't know if it could work as a parser function template though? 

http://babelfish.yahoo.com/free_trans_service
--Chief Mike 04:09, 24 September 2007 (EDT) "This User edits using Firefox-2" :)

Maintain the PO files.

Really nice job of you.Awesome! Thanks for your co-operative activities.

One thing i would like to acknowledge you ,it would be more effective if we maintain the po files much more generic.Since some string or sentences has been frequently repeated in different po files,so if we resolve this redundancy in each po file it would more efficient to work.

Thanks Nirmal, I'm just trying to help :)
As for making more effective the POs (or rather the POTs) that depends (mostly? exclusively?) on the developers, afaik. BTW, I agree totally with you as I've seen lots of replicated strings (specially in TamTam files). I'm not an expert on the subject, but some tools do provide things like 'memory' so you will actually be reusing the translated strings associated to previous translations, saving you the effort. BTW, the in-wiki solution is not really optimal as the tools can't be used, but at least it address some issues we are having :) Xavi 09:40, 29 September 2007 (EDT)
ticket updated... Sj talk

deleting popular pages

dont forget that it is more than just the in'wiki linksthat break when a page i deleted rather than left asa redirect. for pages that have become popular over months, or even a few very prominent weeks, including any page that was linked rom the main page, it is good to leave the original page title and have it redirect [once] to the nerw page. at the same time, fix doubleredirects by removing anything that is onwiki and points to the old page title...


finally ,in addition to keeping links on the web and in blog posts from breaking, you want people who are typing a url by handto go somewhere expected...even if it is no longer the page title, ifsomeone might guess it, better to save them from having to search. that said, nice celanup job :) andthx for helping finishthe demo notes title moves Sj talk 22:05, 3 October 2007 (EDT)

re: wiki admin?

It looks like someone tagged me as admin, because I have a whole lot more tabs now. Thanks, Xavi! —Joe 19:50, 9 October 2007 (EDT)

opentasks!

Please start using and updating Template:Opentasks ... Sj talk 01:30, 14 October 2007 (EDT)

blocks

try 3 months blocks for the gibberish-spammers; they come back. Sj talk 09:47, 14 October 2007 (EDT)

Bulgaria Translation

Hey, thanks for moving the pages. However, I had left them outside the naming convention, because they were not done. In a way, I created the new pages as my temporary working place. So, please, next time ask me before you make serious changes. Again, I appreciate your help! --Cryout 14:46, 16 October 2007 (EDT)

time for commons-style multilingual guidelines?

Cang_Jie_imes is my favorite new page in a while. It looks like we'll need some standard way to help people find all of the pages in their language; and to have short messages in many languages on a single talk page... have you looked at some of the multilingual extensions wikimedia commons uses? They manage to keep lots of languages together on a single page. we also need a proper water cooler where community members can share questions and ideas less formally than creating new pages for the mor added them to 'olpc lists' and FAQ... Sj talk 05:07, 17 October 2007 (EDT)

Portuguese changes

Hi Xavi... FYI: Someone changed a Portuguese language template in a way that is similar to the vandalbots, but not identical: Template:Translation/changes/lang-pt. I'm not sure if this is actually vandalism, so I reverted my rollback; perhaps you are more familiar with the language? —Joe 21:29, 28 October 2007 (EDT)

Publishing translation on the laptop.org website

Hi, Xavi, I am now almost down with the Bulgrian translation of laptop.org and I don't know how to close the project. What is the process for getting the translation live? Currently I enlisted a few people to make corrections, so I am doing some quality control. What is next? Thanks a lot. --Cryout 10:47, 4 November 2007 (EST)

Thank you for directing me to Walter. I wrote to him and will be waiting for his answer. About recruiting more translators, I am in the process at the moment. A name was suggested to me from a Bulgarian Linus-translating community and I am now trying to get in contact. --Cryout 10:31, 5 November 2007 (EST)

OLPC_Brasil/Porto_Alegre (A pilot School?)

Hi, I translated this from Portuguese-English but, ¿is it truly a Pilot school located there as you marked/tagged it?
:) Chief Mike 05:04, 8 November 2007 (EST)

Thanks for restoring me

Hi, thanks for re-creating me and the other users who were maliciously deleted 11/21/07. So sorry we live in a world where that task is necessary..... ~ Hexagonal

Translation terms: to delete or not to delete

Hi I just noticed that you tagged Translation terms which I started to use yesterday as a page to be deleted. I know about Pootle translation project, but there are a couple of reasons why I wanted to have an en-ru translation glossary page. First of all we came across a situation when one term (Activity, to be exact) may be translated differently in different contexts. Then in some cases we feel a need to discuss the best translation for each case before it is finalized, and it is better to do it in an open way rather than in private correspondence. So this page was created as a draft page for translation terms before they go to Pootle. I asked a question about it on the discussion page, but nobody seemed to respond :-) --Biarm 23:05, 28 November 2007 (EST)

Hi Xavi. I would appreciate any technically sound solution that will allow to suggest variants of translations and discuss them. If it is possible to arrange that as a part of Pootle's terminology project, it is fine with me. I just think that PTP is something more advanced. And my concern is about volunteer translators who come to localize various wiki pages and need some easy to handle wiki glossary to play with the translation template and have some initial practice. It is just to early to redirect those people to the Pootle server. (This is exactly the situation that we have with Russian translations). So my suggestion would be to keep a draft glossary wiki page somewhere (to me Translation terms serves this purpose well and, as soon as a term is finalized, transfer it to the Pootle glossary. Does that make sense? :-) --Biarm 09:42, 30 November 2007 (EST)

Thanks for the gallery markup on the Simplified user guide

Great edits on the user guide, I really appreciate it. Makes for much easier scrolling. And I wouldn't have known about the markup for layout so I appreciate it - teaching me wikitext, awesome. --annegentle 08:58, 30 November 2007 (EST)

==Getting started in Pootle==1/ hi..I've signed up to Pootle as my girlfriend might be able to translate some sections into Turkish, but when I go here https://dev.laptop.org/translate/tr/ there are no entries... How do I get started? --Tomhannen 10:13, 9 December 2007 (EST)

In Argentina in January

Xavi! I'm traveling to Argentina for a wedding in January. I'll be in BA 1/10 and 1/11, in Mendoza 1/12 through 1/14, and back in BA from 1/15 to 1/17. Where are you? And will you be around? --Lauren 12:06, 13 December 2007 (EST)

interwiki linking

Xavi:

Here's my page testing interwiki links. It looks like most of the common MediaWiki interwiki links are enabled. It's just the one to the English-language Wikipedia that doesn't work (e.g. WikiPedia:User:BlankVerse or WikiPedia:Argentina). I left a message on User:sj's talk page, since he is as close as I've found to a MediaWiki expert on the OLPC wiki. BlankVerse 19:59, 28 December 2007 (EST)

Hola!

Welcome back. Lauren should be there for another few days. I believe she is in Uruguay now and then coming back through Arg... email may be the best way to reach her. And Tomeu is here in Boston for a week and says 'hello!'. --Sj leave me a message 21:04, 14 January 2008 (EST)

ps -- there was some recent korean spam here, reminding me we should check up on our friend php5... --Sj leave me a message

Xoxo/Statistics

Xavi,

Saw your cool stats pages, in Xoxo/Statistics. I'm guessing that those pages were auto-generated. And I'd be interested in seeing them continue (But maybe not in the main user space... maybe 'OLPC:Statistics' ???

Also, I don't know if you have heard, but a bunch of the recent new users (myself included) are interesting in starting up a regular online 'XO Laptop 'zine '. With a little background search, I discovered that you and several others tried to do something similar 3 to 4 months ago.

Would you be interested in helping us out, or chipping in ... in someway? Lots of chatter about it on irc #olpc-support-gang ....

Thanks, --IainD

In fact, we will need our own chan for it soon. Let's talk about how to get these translated -- I really want the first ed. to be in 3 languages. --Sj leave me a message 09:01, 17 January 2008 (EST)

Sj,

I believe that Seth is working on putting the pieces together. (Which reminds me, I'll need to get my part done soon! :) Looks like we have several espanol people on the gang list. Which three languages are you thinking of ? The rest of the languages we could do a 'lazy translate' with Google/langauge. What do you mean by 'own chan' ?? --iainD 07:56, 18 January 2008 (EST)

Help out a new translator?

I have a translator, User:Wing, who can do traditional and some simplified Chinese, but doesn't really understand how the translation templates work. I haven't done anything with them, so I don't have a lot of background in it. Right now he is just translating blocks of text from http://laptop.org and storing them as .doc files with the original text included, so he is getting work done, but at some point he will need to put this into a template. Help?

--Nikki 13:58, 23 January 2008 (EST)

How can I help with Spanish for Update-1?

I'm es-4, not native, but email me using the wiki if you have a specific translating task for me - I'm 100% confident I can review/test an activity, 95% confident I can do a new activity from scratch, and only about 80% confident with big chunks of text like mmm-lessonplans (me salen bien legibles, pero no sin errores. De hecho, haber aprendido a leer en ingles primero es una ventaja en lo que respeta la ortografía, la única ventaja de tener un idioma tan ilógico...). I'm not interested in doing the wiki, just the device. Thanks! Homunq 14:21, 4 February 2008 (EST)

More translators like you

We need more people like you to help with the translators community... where do you recommend we look? --Sj talk 09:53, 19 February 2008 (EST)

Check out some of Homunq's new work on the translation template... --Sj talk 22:13, 26 February 2008 (EST)

Translated Pages is too large to display

See my comment at http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Talk:Translated_pages --@alex 00:53, 28 March 2008 (EDT)

Xoxo/Statistics pages

Just doing some wiki-cleanup and while I was looking through the orphaned pages, I noticed about 40 pages you made of type Xoxo/Statistics. . . Are they worth keeping for historical reasons? I notice most of them have very low view counts (about 15-20). Cjl 16:38, 14 April 2008 (EDT)

These are still very popular, by the way! --Sj talk 01:53, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

Cambodia

Hi Xavi, I'm a former OLPC employee at the OLPC EU HQ in Brussels, preparing a trip to visit my wife's family in Cambodia. Preparing to meet the Minister of Education of Cambodia. Saw you on http://wiki.laptop.org/index.php?title=OLPC_Cambodia&action=history ... do you have any special interest to Cambodia in particular? Can you team-up / coach me? Thx--SvenAERTS 05:02, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

Metrics and Evaluation

Dear Xavi I'm building upon your 2006 writings http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_talk:Mission#Metrics .This has lead me to create the following categories, which are the most efficient way to pull together pages that have usefull info on this topic and where people might be interested in further reading on the topics of Category:Metrics , Category:Metrics , Feeback and Evaluation, Category:Evaluation

--SvenAERTS 12:00, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

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