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Hey

Hey- Thanks for your help, it's refreshing to have some collaboration.

I'd like to talk to you more about the include tags you mentioned before. Those could prove to be quite useful.

Also, I like what you've done with the sidebar. Portions of it may or may not be temporary depending on how we decide to set up the front page. Walter and I had discussed setting it up like the main page of fr.wikipedia.org. I really like the organization going on there. Everything is right at your fingertips, and it's still very navigable. I had a different approach than what they had though (I think)- My idea is to modularize the page into elements (or blocks, or cells, or whatever you want to call them). Say we categorize the entire wiki into a dozen super categories. Each category would have it's own template (or page, or whatever). That way the main page can be just an index of what blocks are included instead of a bunch of ugly html. Am I discovering something that's already in use? Is this a good/bad/superlative idea? Let me know what you think. Thanks! --Aburton 18:39, 26 June 2006 (EDT)

OLPCities

I received your comments. Thanks. OLPCities is an open project. Everybody (some anonymous...) can help, create content etc. etc. We hope that, in the future, we can use the MIT(?) OLPC server (I believe that there are one available) to upload all the material. Our server can be not good enought if we have a big trafic (we are optimist...). --Americo , 19 September 2006

refactoring love

content page ideas on my user page. Phoebe 01:22, 12 October 2006 (EDT)

A question

Is there a preliminary list of new features I can review somewhere? From my point of view, getting a better idea of the Journal, and more generally: how content will be deployed. For example can our software tie into the depolyment mechanism. So content that has been downloaded and is displayed in our software can reference other content that the student hasn't downloaded yet. --Scott C.

How would you want to reference software on the network that hasn't yet been downloaded? There will be visibility of content on the mesh and server, at least via an index with basic metadata about the files. Sj talk 19:48, 10 December 2006 (EST)

Notes

Local copies of text with push updates, changes when others change. Personal wikis with small groups/clusters. Synch of pages across wikis. Diffs pushed to email servers, pulled down to rev control.

Songbird, etc for exposing, sharing music. Post-v6 IP sharing. Version and data problems... doing away with net file systems.

olpc

Hi,

I am an astronomy graduate student and educator at Portugal. I'd like very much to contribute to the OLPC project with my knowledge in communicating astronomy. I give various lectures, courses, workshops and so forth.

Hoping to hear from you.

José Raeiro
www.raeiro.com
Hello José! Welcome to our wiki. Please create an account here and come back soon. I would love to have you contribute to our project. Perhaps you can help start a page on Astronomy and how to teach it to children from scratch. Sj talk 22:49, 25 January 2007 (EST)

Interwiki

Hi,

about interwiki support is this feature turn on ?...if is not can it be set up..? Thank you. ill wait for your commments.

It needs a slight database change; we will do this soon. Sj talk 22:49, 25 January 2007 (EST)

Most of the common Mediawiki interwiki links are enabled (see my test page), but the one that most people expect, going to the English-language Wikipedia, is not enabled (e.g. WikiPedia:User:BlankVerse). BlankVerse 16:56, 28 December 2007 (EST)

games

see Game development ...

Thanks for the start. Sj talk 22:49, 25 January 2007 (EST)

Old templates :

General information
Frequently Asked Questions | News | Development team | Getting involved | Feedback | Community portal | OLPC philosophy

OlpcProject

Hi,

I create an OlpcProject:Educational ideas page for Pedagogical ideas. Could you see it, please, and talk me what do you think about it ?

Thanks -- Zyacat 22:12, 16 February 2007 (EST)

Software projects

Are my latest editions on Software projects in line with what you had in mind?

Also, what about all the other stuff at http://dev.laptop.org ? I'm retiscent to include some projects (ie: linux-mm-cc and such) given their 'low-level' nature.--Xavi 13:05, 19 February 2007 (EST)

WiXi

can Summer_of_Code be updated to include WiXi as candidate? sooner action will encourage better student proposals..

(last year twexter was included as candidate for SOC 2006, but on the very last day.. thus student proposals were weak.. this year proposals could be stronger if twexter/WiXi could be included sooner.. I met with Alexander Gelbukh yesterday, he's eager to mentor and already listed as a Google mentor in Mexico.. thanks:) Duke 13:12, 22 March 2007 (EDT)

Library strings

I extracted the 'visible' strings from the library... put them in [[User:Xavi/Library strings#Table format]] and [[User:Xavi/Library strings#PO format]] (reviewed Localization/Library strings)... take your pick! :) --Xavi 21:12, 28 March 2007 (EDT)

Through with the biology section, actually it's more botanical & biomes—of which I thought I knew enough... did the best I could, should be reviewed. Again, they are in table and PO format :) --Xavi 03:51, 29 March 2007 (EDT)


Translation

Hi, Xavi

please let me know how to add Korean translation to http://www.laptop.org/. The guideline says use PO file, but how to write it, PO file for Korean?

Thanks..

user:php5

PO-file-naming-with-or-without-dashes-or-what?

They sure look ugly... I just followed Walter's naming convention... Personally I would've gone the sub-pages road... but that just swaps / for -... --Xavi 01:01, 29 March 2007 (EDT)

Update the translated content on the www.laptop.org

Hi, Sj

Thanks for making a user page for me. BTW, I've made the final review of the translations for zh-CN version of the web www.laptop.org with some corrections. Could you make them online? I think that it is controlled by the olpc team member. The translation works for korean and portuguese have the same problems. All needs full update. Thanks! -- user:ScottZ 05:05, 07 April 2007 (EDT)

Obsolete Template

We sure could use a "obsolete" template to mark some of the more out of date pages, such as

And so on, and so forth. Thanks. - JordanCrouse (Talk to me!) 17:13, 11 April 2007 (EDT)

There's one already: Template:Dated : {{dated}}
Sorry to post here :) --Xavi 17:42, 11 April 2007 (EDT)
Hmm - I'm not sure if thats exactly what I was looking for. I mean, the LinuxBIOS stuff just isn't out of date, we've purposely killed it. We don't want to leave doubt in anybody's mind that this information is still even remotely valid. The information should only remain for posterity. I'm thinking that an {{obsolete}} template would say exactly that, and possibly provide a link to the newer information, if it exists (i.e - LinuxBIOS pages would link to OpenFirmware pages) and such. - JordanCrouse (Talk to me!) 19:13, 16 April 2007 (EDT)

Portal idea?

Hi! I've been (playing) with the idea to restructure the OLPC Spanish America page and turn it into a sort of 'Portal' page (which if works fine, maybe we can move it to the 'english' side).

BTW, this is just me playing with DIVs so the 'content' is not really thought out... My hope is that having some clear cut first level division of the content will propagate and help the structure throughout the pages and categories in the wiki....

Would it be too much to ask for your opinions on the idea and its (crude) implementation? Cheers, --Xavi 14:54, 26 April 2007 (EDT)

about Learning Outcome Statements

About Learning Outcome Statements

LOS is somewhat different from the spirits of wikipedia or wikieducator. XO Korea hope to establish a standard learning outcomes for all educational courses, and for governments and business sectors also. The goal is;

  • to set an uniform and standardized learning outcomes for children and citizens regardless of their nationalities.
  • to establish an uniform and standardized web-based tests (or accreditations) for all courses, certifications (such as lawyers, doctors, and CPAs etc.), and licenses for all nations,
  • to establish Open Enterprise Architecture for worldwide programmers not to duplicate their coding works and to share software components and libraries,
  • to provide raw materials (or data) for programmers (or software engineers) to code XO Korea/Sector Automation, which shall automate a school, government, or business sector, and
  • for children and citizens to be able to participate in educational, governmental, and business sectors directly via Python programming architecture.

So, the ultimate goal of LOS written here is for children to be a REAL social members, who can collect some modules (or software components) from OEA libraries to compose a Really working governmental or business sectors which they own.

LOS is not just a guideline for children or students to follow when learning something, but a base step to particiaption in the world, and I hope that participation to be Python programming not just for playing, but for achieving some real things such as public or private social activities.

All the content here will be moved/copied to the wiki of XO Korea when our presentation tour begins at the end of this month or in the next month. When moving/copying them, any content you think NOT matching to the goal of this wiki will be erased from here.

However, if you think LOS should be moved as soon as possible, and if you think LOS does not match to this site, I'll move it right now.

Please let me know your opinion. php5 18:43, 5 May 2007 (EDT)

As there is no more opinion, I'll continue my work....If any, let me know anytime. Sincerely php5 17:51, 6 May 2007 (EDT)
I see, thanks for your opinion. As always, the eyes of others let me work along the road/rail. Anyway, this week will be somewhat busy for my farming and fishing job, and, as I'm the only one who can translate English-Korean in my team, one week or so will be very very very quiet for this wiki, due to my absense. Please miss me....php5 16:12, 7 May 2007 (EDT)

Hello

Hello Sj: Sorry for responding late. Overwhelmed with my final projects and exams. What's up? Nalrawahi 14:45, 8 May 2007 (EDT)

-- Hi again SJ, I will be more than glad to help you guys with this. I will come back to the UAE on May 20th that's when I graduate. Because I really have no big commitments yet. I will be working on some translating and designing any language-related component when I am free. Send me an email anytime. Nalrawahi 18:52, 8 May 2007 (EDT)



Could we combine the Volunteering and Community Building pages?

These two pages have a lot in common. Perhaps we could merge them?

User:Berrybw

OLPC Pathfinder Internship, Peru, Nigeria, & Game Jam

Hi again SJ,

Number of things to mention. I put it all on my talk & user pages(sig links) instead of in an email so others can hopefully chime in.

There were a couple of things we talked about that I think I've missed. Feel free to direct me on any front that comes to mind.

:) Ben Nardone:: My Talk:: Internship:: GameJam:: Peru:: Nigeria 18:28, 19 May 2007 (EDT)

Hi again SJ. This is just to introduce you to Chris Maire (User:PIOLPCIntern-1-Talk-Blog-WikiContribs- Marching). Chris is my intern, and will spend the summer helping me with at all things OLPC. Best, :) Ben Nardone:: My Talk:: Internship:: Peru:: Nigeria 09:09, 24 July 2007 (EDT)

Wiki Updates

Instructions for blog: User:Lauren#OLPC_Summer_Blog

Psst: XO Manifesto

Where was that good "how to add" page? --Lauren 16:01, 11 July 2007 (EDT)

Still finishing up content bundle instructions but wanted to check in with you about:

  1. Bundle Structure: Does this look ok to you? I tried to replicate the activity bundle structure without overlapping names for things, so that activity bundles could contain library bundle info too.
  2. Library.info file: Again, copied the activity.info file but added a few fields. I didn't remove any yet, but I left notes on the page about which ones I thought could go.

OK. Off to figure out how the library XML/CSS works... --Lauren 17:49, 13 July 2007 (EDT)

Created Wikimania, tho I left my notebook of what to put in it at home.... --Lauren 17:28, 17 July 2007 (EDT)

Thanks for your greeting

Hi, it's farming season here.

As a farmer and part-time carpenter, I have been restoring a traditional Korean house (particularly, that of the Jeju Island), and maybe a few days later, the restructuring will be finished.

That house is much similar to XO..I'm sure you can't distinguish one from the other. Please see here at this weekend, maybe.

vision test

Regards

We'd like to add a vision test on the first machine startup. Can you recommend a set of images we could use for this? Then we could develop an activity around it... Sj talk 15:58, 3 June 2007 (EDT)

Could we irc tomorrow? Before putting in too much work I'd like to make sure I understand what you are looking for. No pun intended. MitchellNCharity 21:07, 4 June 2007 (EDT)

Hi, SJ. I'm php5

It's a long time and I've finished farmking works for this season.

My fellows helped me prepare about 60,000 e-Government modules (services), and I hope to post them onto this wiki, each representing a complete governmental function. I hope that the e-Government will provide 70~80% the same service as those currently about 1,000,000 Kroean governmental employees provide, that it will be used by developing nations without educating hundreds of thousands of their future or potential governmental employees, and that developing nations will save money for their children..

Though I already have detailed list of governmental services and full descriptions of each service, which will be used to program via Open Enterprise Architecture, I have not obtained permission from the Korean government about disclosing all detailed information of the governmental functions. After obtaining the permission, I hope to start the world first open source e-Government program.

Anyway, for presentation tours in Korea (both South and North) scheduled long time ago, I hope to receive at least five (5) B3 or B4 machines this month; ten (10) machines are desirable. Though I have already sent mails and messages to Jim Gettys, Felice and some others, please help me persuade them to send us a few B3/4 machines if you have any chance to meet/talk with OLPC persons.

Sincerely php5 05:05, 6 June 2007 (EDT)

Re: wiki admin?

I'm no expert with wikis, but sure, if it would help. Just let me know what you'd like me to do. —Joe 23:42, 7 June 2007 (EDT)

  • Hi sj id really like to be wiki admin, what do you think ?--RafaelOrtiz 21:16, 22 June 2007 (EDT)

Dear sj

A few Koreans have translated eToy and some sample activities in XO. Please let me know what I do for OLPC to include those Korean versions on B4 machines and later.

Is there any convenient way to translate SUGAR into Korean...like PO files for www.laptop.org?

Sincerely php5 04:02, 10 June 2007 (EDT)

random from project

game jam wrapup

The letter is at GameJam_BostonJune2007_Wrapup - edit as ye wish. Mchua 16:44, 13 June 2007 (EDT)


wiki mail

Hi! It would seem that since the last update, the wiki-mail interface doesn't work... no mails notifying updates, and can't mail users. Also, new users will probably not get their notification/validation email I guess... can you look into it? Cheers, --Xavi 14:02, 14 June 2007 (EDT)

Weird Template:Game

I was thinking sort of the same when I saw it :) Another alternative (probably that could be reused for what Laure is doing) is to have instead of 'embeding' the text in the template call, have the template embed a sub-page (ie: gamepage/Screenshots)... and have a link to the embeded page (in lieu of the [edit] link for a section—see Template:Include Page). What do you think? Too criptic? --Xavi 12:31, 20 June 2007 (EDT)

Activity Development links

Here are some ideas for links from the front page (if that's appropriate), to help activity developers meet olpc standards. Please feel free to write/rewrite text.

Areas that we would like people to know about:

Localization

Sugarize an Activity


Bundle an Activity

Journal datastore interoperability (for saving and retrieving files)

Collaboration / Sharing

Cliff Schmidt

for B4 and great justice 1425 Western Ave #111 Seattle, WA 98101

Chess Game ?

is there a chess game under development ? (or where should I be looking for that info ?)

see games, and not yet! though there's a simple chess game in PyGame, we need a better interactive and mesh-aware client that can handle kibitzing, optoinal reputation/ranking, &c. Sj talk 14:24, 13 July 2007 (EDT)

Hi sj

Of course OLPC Korea is much interested in Curriculum Jam Manila, and I'm organizing some Korean participants to attend in it. Perhaps next week I will surely receive a few B4 machines, and my Presentations with those machines will be very helpful to attract potential Korean participants.

I don't use scripted uploads at all, only using my both hands and fellows' some help. Please let me know how to display talk sign such as Sj talk . cheers php5 03:17, 14 July 2007 (EDT)

The trick is to be able to separate hundreds of similar edits from other edits. How to do that? Could you let me know how to separate those similar edits? For RC to be useful, until now I have edited mass pages during weekends only during which only a few users visit here.
I have translated PO files of org laptop.org into Korean, but some left unchanged (still in English) as is shown here. Could you fix it for me? I have no account to fix it.
As is shown in Oficina_de_Desenho/Localization, PO files for an Activity, What do you think about providing PO files for other activities such as TamTam, Read, News, Web etc.? It must be very helpful to those without programming backgrounds like me.
cheers php5 05:00, 16 July 2007 (EDT)

Wiki admin privs

Please? Mchua 01:53, 17 July 2007 (EDT)

firefox bookmarks that serve as wiki shortcuts

Thought you might appreciate. Firefox wiki bookmarks Mchua 03:19, 17 July 2007 (EDT)

another cool offline wiki editing thing

http://exelearning.org/ - The eXe project is developing a freely available Open Source authoring application to assist teachers and academics in the publishing of web content without the need to become proficient in HTML or XML markup. eXe can export content as self-contained web pages or as SCORM 1.2 or IMS Content Packages. Mchua 03:47, 17 July 2007 (EDT)

Thanks SJ. See Computers do run the world!

I restored the pages with history; please find another wiki for them. Sj talk 22:33, 20 July 2007 (EDT)

Your Move!216.194.7.112

a message

on your talk page. Mchua 22:51, 20 July 2007 (EDT)

Mediawiki extension install

From User:Arjs - need to let him know when it's done. See User_talk:Mchua#Media_Wiki_script. Mchua 00:30, 21 July 2007 (EDT)


Its great! thanks. :) Maybe i should add a section on how to embed youtube videos on the Help:Editing page? --Arjs 21:26, 22 July 2007 (EDT)

Thanks much for that nice blog post.

KLDP(Korean Linux Documentation Project)

I have no idea about the http://gdick.kldp.net/ project. If you need any information about the site, let me know details. I think I can find it because KLDP is a rather small community php5 01:55, 22 July 2007 (EDT)

I have no friends in Taipei, but a few in China. Now I'm actively preparing Jam in Seoul, maybe in a few days, I'll post it on this wiki php5 20:50, 23 July 2007 (EDT)

where is it now?

just checking.

SoCon apps

Try this and let me know what you think. It's not ideal, but I'm trying to figure out how to make the app experience relatively painless... Mchua 04:59, 24 July 2007 (EDT)

Question

From time to time, I'm using or imitating others' work in this wiki, particularly from you and Xavi, without any notification, because I have no programming or wiki background yet. I thought imitating others is permitted and even strongly recommended by the OLPC phylosophy, learning learning, and this wiki is not an exception. But, I might be wrong...please let me know whether you feel uncovenience by my using various works of you in this wiki such as this. cheers php5 10:44, 24 July 2007 (EDT)

Jam laptops

php5's message made me think - would it be possible to create a box (say, 5) of XOs for Jam loans? People could request the box for a week-long loan, so they can run a local jam... we could put a copy of the Jam Cookbook in there, and some (non-verbal, pictorial, or otherwise close-to-wordless) documentation on how to work the laptops in the box, the requestors would have to pay so many dollars for shipping and etc. but it would be an "OLPC Jam In A Box" and allow folks like Do Young-Min to hold their events without having to scrounge and borrow laptops from everyone within a 500-km radius. Mchua 17:58, 24 July 2007 (EDT)

activity grid prettification

I put the Activity Grid task in Art Wanted.

Please Review

This Document is a very well put together format.[1] Is there any plans to continue this as a past to current format and if not why did this person stop?7/27/07

I want to be a Mentor (Summer of Code)

I'm Rowen Remis R. Iral Please check my profile on my website by visiting and clicking my website from http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Philippines

I'm Leaving an Important Message OLPC PH

Hello Sj, just leaving you a message on your talk page.

OLPC Philippines is shaping and I'm happy to join OLPC if possible. I'll be working as a telecommuter, supporting developers and also promoting OLPC in the Philippines

http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Philippines

you can contact me on how I can join OLPC by this email; wenmi01 (at) spymac (period dot) com

my website is also listed in the OLPC Philippines page in this wiki -Rowen

sonata

I uploaded a bundle for sonata that works with build 542. Just plunk some oggs in ~/.mpd/Music and it should work. Ywwg 12:21, 15 August 2007 (EDT)

Extension install request

Newuserlog - since I don't have the privs to install it myself, iirc, and we're starting to get more volunteers and welcome wagons are fun. Mchua 16:24, 18 August 2007 (EDT)

I19n

Hi there, Would you like multilingualize the sidebar like Wikimedia Commons or 'mania wiki? ;) example --> Wm2007:User:Alexsh/sidetrans

P.S. Hmm you guys don't refer to MetaWikiPedia:Interwiki map ...

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Good night.

Socon sponsor organization

Should I get in touch with the sponsor organization for the SOCON project that I am mentoring (DSP for kids) or you people would be putting us across to them ?--Arjs 08:36, 17 September 2007 (EDT)

RE: deleting popular pages

follow up to User talk:Xavi#deleting popular pages

I deleted the "OLPC-demo-notes" because I thought that it was a 'fast move' (creation and move), but rechecking the history maybe I'm mistaken... mmm... should I recall it back from the netherworld?
I always (well, 95+% of the time) verify the inbound links & try to guess the likeliness of external links... sorry if I goofed up on that one.
Is there any way to verify stats of redirects? More to the point: pass through hits? The wiki doesn't seem to keep a tally on the 'effectiveness' or 'importance' of redirects... (the 'times accessed' doesn't work on redirects).
re the demo notes & subpages: yes, I always keep forgetting to verify subpage dependencies, so if I forget, I can only guess what happens to others! :) (I'll probably modify the {{Translation}} to avoid needing the name of the source (saving on the 'avoiding redirect links') making it simpler. Cheers, --Xavi 00:42, 4 October 2007 (EDT)
Deleting a redirect often results in a fresh new (redundant) article under that name. This is especially true for common misspellings, typos, and case differences. AlbertCahalan 01:04, 14 October 2007 (EDT)

can you bork these articles?

Non_Technical_Aspects Funding_strategies

Neither of these have any actual content, and only link to each other. Both by User_talk:SvenAERTS I smell something fishy. It might just be a language barrier however. *shrug* thought you should take a look Specialization is for Insects 18:32, 13 October 2007 (EDT)

LetterOfApplicationBabylon This scares me too.Specialization is for Insects 18:35, 13 October 2007 (EDT)
These don't scare me, but I'm not sure that they are relevant here. Perhaps a link to external refs about various financing options would be neutral and appropriate. Sj talk 12:20, 14 October 2007 (EDT)

Fishy ? Give bankers a chance to apply ... you'll notice the if the technique is usefull for Olpc or not ... by watching the number of orders increase ... --SvenAERTS 09:57, 14 October 2007 (EDT)

open tasks & blocking

Will start using the {{Opentasks}} (probably will try to embed into another {{Welcome}}-like template but geared for translators.

About the blocking, you mean longer periods? IIRC, my default now for bots is 3 months. I use less for obvious non-bots (or what I think aren't bots). I think that 3 months may be too much, as I assume that these bots are likely to be running from a zombie windows machine that will reboot way before that time and assigned a different IP...

BTW, the new wiki-mail alert for watched pages is way more confusing that the previous version (a newbie will probably just see gibberish ;)) --Xavi 10:00, 14 October 2007 (EDT)

Babylon fund and Technique

  • Can I develop it on "my talk" ?
    It doesn't seem appropriate there either. The details you provide are confusing, and not relevant to OLPC. Is there anything about this fund that is relevant to our community, or is simply a way for anyone at all to invest their money?
  • What are your financing qualifications to back-up/sustain your claims and worries ? Or .. you just are not familiar with this technique and that's why you are afraight? --SvenAERTS
    A generic 'finance technique' has no place on the OLPC wiki. There are international finance sites for this. This wiki is dedicated to things directly related to OLPC. Sj talk
  • OLPC has a software side, a hardware side, a legal side, etc ... and also a financing side ... why wouldn't you let people that want to discuss the financial side just do that ? Or are you telling me that OLPC is only open for programmers and IT people ? I specifically state that you can ONLY apply to the fund ACCOMPANIED WITH A BANKER AND FINANCIER of the Government of the Country itself... most of the time this will be someone from the national treasury ... Where is the fishy smelly side ? --SvenAERTS
    I don't think this is fishy, it is just confusing. Why don't you help develop a page about financing laptops, and leave the application forms and details to an external site? DFKINTL, for instance, should have these details available somewhere on their site. That makes it clear that this is a DFK program that is being suggested as one general way to provide financing; and not an OLPC program. Sj talk
  • Check our references: www.dfkintl.com then go to the Brussels member: Advisers Associates DFK and call Maurice DEGREZ ... or you'll get me on the phone ... DFK are auditers ... you think they are smelly ?! This is a financing technique that is 100% relevant to OLPC ... please answer me : how many countries have paid the 100.000.000 € ? The financing IS there ... and I can help OLPC people that are talking to the right people in the Governments to bring the financing to the table .. what's wrong and not relevant to OLPC about that ? If this is not interesting to you .. give me the phone number of the person in OLPC who is dealing with financing ... and I'll take it up with that person. --SvenAERTS
    It's fine to discuss financing. Please don't host the details of one particular financing technique here. Sj talk

Raffy

Hi Sj,

It's been a long time! Thanks for the note.

The content-building going on is surely good for education, and seeing that you're with Wikipedia speaks volumes in itself.

Mchua had some discussion with me initially, but I got no more updates, especially about the planned October event here in Manila.

Regards.

Raffy

laptop.org site

I don't know if you're the person to talk to, but you're the only person I know at /vision/people (what's Jim's handle on irc? is he on there?) http://www.laptop.org/en/vision/people/SJKlein/ is broken, doesn't have a photo of you, although there's on on the main /people parent

http://www.laptop.org still talks about the '$100 laptop' idea. I know that it's still /a/ goal, and probably an attainable one. But it's a point of contention since it's currently costing $188, and people know and complain about that fact. It's a pretty big hang up for the people at slashdot, etc... I don't know if you even have control over any of this, but thought I would mention it.Specialization is for Insects 01:26, 15 October 2007 (EDT)

Yep, TuxPaint much more doable now.

Bert seems to have caught up (Low-level Activity API). Assuming so, he's made a huge difference.

There are some activity start-up changes in the joyride builds that will make a huge difference. I wish I knew when they'd get into a regular OS build and I wish I could get changelogs for joyride builds. I'd like to get a fairly stable build so that the time spent setting myself up (gcc, cvs, etc.) isn't wasted by needing to reinstall really soon.

Any idea about the font situation with Bitfrost? TuxPaint needs to get at the font files.

AlbertCahalan 23:42, 16 October 2007 (EDT)

Talk to Michael Stone (michael at laptop) about fonts and Bitfrost. He will be very interested. Changelogs for joyride are coming, just need more to-its. Joyride won't be perfectly stable for some time yet; just find a build you like and stick with it for a while. CScott 00:46, 17 October 2007 (EDT)

Interviewing Nicholas Negroponte

Hi, I'm brianmc from Wikinews - probably seen my name on some of the wikimedia mailing lists.

I'd like to get an interview with Nicholas Negroponte set up for Wikinews to help give the OLPC project a little publicity. This could be by telephone from one of my fellow wikinewsies in the U.S., by email, or even in IRC. --Brianmc 07:04, 2 November 2007 (EDT)

Putting pic in internal wiki

Hi SJ! It seems to me that pics uploaded in the public wiki are not accessible wihin internal wiki. Is there a way around that ? --Arjs 08:22, 2 November 2007 (EDT)

We should talk sometime

About a variety of things, like the future of Olin's OLPC chapter, getting an XO for testing out Measure, so on and so forth... --Nikki 16:52, 8 November 2007 (EST)

Bold & Buy One

Hi,

It was one of Wikinews' Polish contributors that took Carla's story and turned it into a report on our site, I helped out and was then cheeky enough to put it on the front page of this wiki, it brings together a number of events and shows the project in a positive light.

Now, I'm a parent. I have a 12 year old son who wants a laptop. I think the XO would be the perfect machine for him and he could take it to school. I've spoken to my parents on the subject and they pretty much agree we should go through the "buy one, give one" campaign and get my little monster a little linux box. So... The 64 million dollar question, will I - from outside the U.S. - be able to participate in the scheme in time to get a machine for Christmas? European schools can afford the network infrastructure to support these machines, it just needs people being able to get them. --Brianmc 10:35, 9 November 2007 (EST)

C S

Hey SJ,

Thanks so much for the suggestions. How do I get in contact with Cliff Schmidt?

-Danny

Signatures

Hey SJ is there an easy why to leave signatures (including your name a date) - like you did on my talk page

Thanks SJ -- JoshSeal 14:44, 11 November 2007 (EST)

how to play with puppy linux on an xo, now that our model is stable

Hi Sj,

Just saw your message today.

Here are my particulars should you have any specific suggestions:

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Thanks.

Raffy

Thank you for help!

Hi Sj, Thank you for the information! I will try to do my best continuing few translations I have started recently.

Best, Philip

AIDS and Health software for OLPC - R language on OLPC - Educational game

Could Google of Summer of Code create software to analyze DNA chips on OLPC? R language on OLPC? I did my thesis comparing HIV and Human Genome at Los Alamos. This could be used by health technicians and public health nurses to ID disease in the field. The OLPC could then be used in Health clinics and schools to diagnose disease early. Imagine being used in Darfur to diagnose Pneumonia (Viral vs Bacterial). What antibiotic would depend on the pathogen. In Peace Corps I saw many kids die beause we did not know what pathogen (what antibiotic) to treat.

Could Greene DNA chip be used with OLPC? Greene chip detects most pathogens. http://www.mailman.hs.columbia.edu/news/Lipkin_GreeneChip.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNA_microarray http://www.gene-chips.com/ http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/techinnovations/2003-04-07-gene-chip_x.htm http://healthandbiology.blogspot.com/2006/12/gene-chip-discovery-may-lead-to.html http://www.genome.org/cgi/content/full/10/1/1 http://144.16.79.155/currsci/oct102002/829.pdf

R Language: (used to analyze DNA chips - Used at Drug Companies, Hospitals, Univ.) http://www.soe.ucsc.edu/~lshiue/bioc/BioCintro.ppt http://isites.harvard.edu/fs/docs/icb.topic124683.files/introToRL1plus.pdf http://isites.harvard.edu/fs/docs/icb.topic124683.files/syllabus.pdf


Immune Attack around the world - Carmen Sandiego video game

Doctors and medical personnel around the world are in a constant battle with microbes using immune response to counter them. Could Immune Attack use a world map to allow students to tour the world trying to solve medical mysteries? Examples: Southwest USA - Several respiratory diseases which can overwhelm the immune system. RSV kills babies on high altitude Indian reservations due to poor diagnostics and late treatment. Hanta virus kills adults due to poor diagnostics and late treatment. Monitoring animal background populations and creating accurate diagnostics to detect infections could allow students to design rnai based vaccines. South America - Cholera still can kill during earthquakes due to clean water disruptions. New edible vaccines in the form of bioengineered potatoes exist but better diagnostics in the field are necessary. Africa - Polio, AIDS and TB cause continent wide devastation. Treatment monitoring of new antiretrovirals and anti-TB drugs require immune system monitoring and new treatment diagnostics. Monitoring animal background populations and creating accurate diagnostics to detect infections could allow students to design rnai based vaccines. Asia - SARS, Bird flu and pandemic flu are linked by cross species infections. Monitoring animal background populations and creating accurate diagnostics to detect infections could allow students to design rnai based vaccines. Each of these scenarios could allow students to apply Immune Attack skills to create microarrays for diagnostics, develop treatment (rnai vaccines, etc.) and see responses to their treatments. Could social resistance (Polio in Nigeria, Bird flu in Indonesia) and poor education prevent application of new treatments? Could viral and bacterial resistance arise? Why is polio a high fidelity virus easy to vaccinate against, while HIV is a low fidelity virus difficult to vaccinate for? Could this game allow students worldwide to compete against each other in a track down that disease annual competition? Who in the world is the best diagnostic team, etc? I worked in Peace Corps in public health treating AIDS patients and malnutrition in the Caribbean. I later worked at Human Genome Project and HIV Genome Project at Los Alamos. References: Edible Vaccines: http://www.sciamdigital.com/index.cfm?fa=Products.ViewIssuePreview&ARTICLEID_CHAR=C31ECDC9-3F00-4956-A752-CBBDEB64575 rnai: http://www.hhmi.org/biointeractive/video/index.html http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/sciencenow/3210/02-cure.html http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2002/07/020705091216.htm http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2005/01/050124005930.htm Diagnostic Microarrays http://www.pnas.org/cgi/content/figsonly/103/11/4011 http://www.the-scientist.com/article/display/15887 http://www.combimatrix.com/products_influenza.htm http://www.govhealthit.com/article92290-02-13-06-Print Microarrays for Students http://www.hhmi.org/biointeractive/vlabs/index.html (Free Biotech DVDs) http://bti.cornell.edu/pgrp/teachers/curriculum_activities.php http://www.affymetrix.com/corporate/outreach/lesson_plan/downloads/standardsconnection_lessonplan.pdf Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/carmen/ http://www.learningcompany.com/ Immunizations: http://www.who.int/immunization_delivery/en/ http://www.gatesfoundation.org/AboutUs/OurWork/Learning/GAVI/

Mycin Blood Analysis AI - Immune Attack video game

Mycin was an expert system developed at Stanford in the 1970s. Its job was to diagnose and recommend treatment for certain blood infections. To do the diagnosis ``properly involves growing cultures of the infecting organism. Unfortunately this takes around 48 hours, and if doctors waited until this was complete their patient might be dead! So, doctors have to come up with quick guesses about likely problems from the available data. and use these guesses to provide a ``covering treatment where drugs are given which should deal with any possible problem. Mycin was developed partly in order to explore how human experts make these rough (but important) guesses based on partial information. However, the problem is also a potentially important one in practical terms - there are lots of junior or non-specialised doctors who sometimes have to make such a rough diagnosis, and if there is an expert tool available to help them then this might allow more effective treatment to be given. Today culturing infecting organisms is being replaced with DNA chip anlalysis of viral and bacterial genomes. These microarrays have been developed to detect Avian Flu, SARS, etc. Could Immune Attack create a Mycin like tool for students to simulate analyzing blood for possible pathogens automatically? This could teach them how modern diagnostics works and how expert systems might be used in clincal settings. References: Mycin http://www.cee.hw.ac.uk/~alison/ai3notes/section2_5_5.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mycin Diagnostic Microarrays http://www.hhmi.org/biointeractive/vlabs/index.html http://www.pnas.org/cgi/content/figsonly/103/11/4011 http://www.the-scientist.com/article/display/15887 http://www.combimatrix.com/products_influenza.htm http://www.govhealthit.com/article92290-02-13-06-Print Microarrays for Students http://bti.cornell.edu/pgrp/teachers/curriculum_activities.php http://www.affymetrix.com/corporate/outreach/lesson_plan/downloads/standardsconnection_lessonplan.pdf Amusing description of Medical AI Galapagos, Kurt Vonnegut

AIDS Model for Immune Attack video game

Recent work in T Cell models might make an interesting topic for high school/college students. Using immune attack it might be possible to create a simulation showing the T cell regulatory system which causes AIDS. This also would highlight other autoimmune diseases (diabetes, asthma, allergies). Recent work in chimpanzees has shown their ability to regulate many immune responses to HIV and allergens human immune systems fail to regulate. Human T cells respond much more robustly than chimpanzee cells do. This may explain some major differences in susceptibility to certain diseases between humans and great apes. One example is the lack of progression to AIDS in the great majority of chimpanzees infected with HIV virus. It could also account for the rarity of T-cell mediated liver damage, such as chronic active hepatitis, cirrhosis and cancer, following Hepatitis B or C infection in chimpanzees. In addition, several other common human T cell-mediated diseases, including bronchial asthma, rheumatoid arthritis and type 1 diabetes, have, so far, not been reported in chimpanzees or other great apes. Humans and great apes share many similar genes however gene expression is different. Using novel gene-array technology to measure the extent of gene expression in thousands of genes simultaneously, humans diverged from their ape ancestors in the last five million years, genes for transcription factors -- which control the expression of other genes -- are four times as likely to have changed their own expression patterns as the genes they regulate. Could immune attack simulate gene expression microarrays? Could students use mock arrays to diagnose immune response? Microarray skills will be needed in the coming medical revolution. This could lead students to investigate automated immune system monitoring, pharamcogenetics, etc. Students with these skills will gain valuable understanding of immune system response and monitoring. My Thesis "Computer Assisted Genetic Mapping" compared Human and HIV genomes at Los Alamos National Laboratory. References: Peacekeepers of the Immune System http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?chanID=sa006&colID=1&articleID=0005AFFE-A2F0-150E-A26183414B7F0000 T Cell 'Brakes' Lost During Human Evolution http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/05/060502224533.htm Scientists find potential 'off-switch' for HIV virus http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2007-01/pu-sfp011107.php Immune System Microarrays http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/03/060309190112.htm http://www.BioArrayNews.com http://www.affymetrix.com http://www.perlegen.com/ http://www.bioconductor.org Future of Medical Simulation:

Quantum Genetic Computing - QGC

Could a quantum computer based DNA/biochip search engine automate medical diagnostics? Could building a simulation in Second Life give students a look into the future? Could Greene chip be the first chip to update quantum computer database. http://www.mailman.hs.columbia.edu/news/Lipkin_GreeneChip.html Dwave computer is building first Quantum Computer: Searching Google images. Searching genomes next? http://www.dwavesys.com/ http://www.eetimes.com/news/latest/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=202805164 Customers might include Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, Howard Hughes Medical Institute, drug companies, biotech, WHO, CDC, DOD, Homeland Security, etc. Quantum Genetic Computing - QGC: Use Grovers Algorithm to correlate genetic information. Could biotech create a Quantum Genetic Computer (QGC) from D-wave system? Could a lab-on-a-chip/QGC technology sample patient blood and draw diagnosis similar to Mycin (AI)? Machine based medical diagnostics? Could D-wave pioneer Mycin/QGC for the physician and for the home? How will Genbank and Human Genome data (Oracle) integrate with QGC? Could R language for microarrays be used for matrix correlations? Quantum Genetic Computing -(QGC) Use Quantum Database search to solve genetic problems. Comparative Genomics: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparative_genomics <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparative_genomics> Mycin:(medical expert system) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mycin <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mycin> http://www.cee.hw.ac.uk/~alison/ai3notes/section2_5_5.html <http://www.cee.hw.ac.uk/~alison/ai3notes/section2_5_5.html> http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~laza/Software/Mycin/mycin.html <http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~laza/Software/Mycin/mycin.html> RNAi:(assembly language of the cell) http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/sciencenow/3210/02-cure.html <http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/sciencenow/3210/02-cure.html> R Language: http://www.soe.ucsc.edu/~lshiue/bioc/BioCintro.ppt <http://www.soe.ucsc.edu/~lshiue/bioc/BioCintro.ppt>


HPV education with computer games

Recent work using computer games and virtual reality in health care may be useful in designing minority specific cancer education software. HPV educational software could allow students and parents to understand virus infections and cancer. Students could interact with viral sequences as they destabilize cells and lead to cancer. They also could use simulated RNAi sequences and HPV vaccines to prevent the infection. http://www.hhmi.org/biointeractive/ http://www.dph.state.ct.us/BCH/infectiousdise/Enhancing_HPV_Immunization.pdf http://www.fahc.org/pathology/Education/hpv_powerpoints.html http://www.nccc-online.org/cervical_cancer_education12.29b.ppt Viral Cancer Matrix - HPV attacks a genome Recent work in viral -> transposon -> genome networks support the paradigm of gene creation and transfer through virus infection. A game to elaborate this process could be created in XNA. The game would allow the user to infect a genome and change a phenotype or destabilize a genome. Antibiotic resistant bacteria could be shown to transfer DNA via transposon or viral infection. Cancer genomes could be shown as a result of viral infection. Examples of large genome transformation might include: 1. LTR buildup in genomes (L1 sites) 2. Corn pollen transfer of BT (transposon) 3. Gene instability leading to cancer - HPV http://www.cshl.edu/public/releases/07_harmless_viruses.html Could schools use as part of HPV curriculum? Could AK create a virtual lab simulator similar to what HHMI has done? http://www.hhmi.org/biointeractive/vlabs/index.html Could the evolution game be built on PCs and allow students to integrate invasions of new transposons? Could students play on two sides of immunity? Team one as trasposons expressing genes? Team two as RNAi used by cells to control expression? Could the two teams play to a draw to represent immune response in evolving systems? Cancer controlled via RNAi. http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/medicalnews.php?newsid=43954

Recent work showing viral infection is related to cancer: http://www.cshl.edu/public/releases/07_harmless_viruses.html CSHL Research Ties Harmless Viruses to Cancer Could students propose testing and vaccines that could be used for cancers? Could DNA chips be developed that test for immune response to cancer producing viruses? Microarrays for Students http://www.hhmi.org/biointeractive/vlabs/index.html (Free) http://bti.cornell.edu/pgrp/teachers/curriculum_activities.php http://www.affymetrix.com/corporate/outreach/lesson_plan/downloads/standardsconnection_lessonplan.pdf Resources for Viral Matrix game - Cancer caused by HPV http://msdn.microsoft.com./xna http://www.xnatutorial.com/ http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/express/beginner/kids/csharp/ http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb330920(VS.80).aspx http://www.riemers.net/eng/Tutorials/XNA/Csharp/series1.php HPV: http://www.merck.com/mmhe/sec22/ch252/ch252f.html http://www.merck.com/mmhe/sec22/ch252/ch252e.html http://www.merck.com/mmhe/sec09/ch131/ch131j.html http://www.fahc.org/pathology/Education/hpv_education.html http://www.fahc.org/pathology/Pathology_Contribution/PowerPoints/HPV_Presentation_National0104.pdf

Unreal Triage - Simulating Medical treatment for Cancer

A simulation developed for Homeland Security would allow student to experience the reality of watching patient disease progress to death. Showing cancer as it progresses to death. Example: Cancer patients could arrive for chemo, radiation, vaccines, etc. http://www.ists.dartmouth.edu/projects/seers/utriage.php http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/index?siteID=123112&id=7639525 Mastering Unreal Technology: The Art of Level Design (Paperback) ISBN-10: 0672326922

Second Life Cancer Ward

A larger version of the game under Second Life would allow avatars that would be seething with viral matrixes. The matrixes could show randomly generated cities of gene networks. A virtual cancer ward could show progression of the disease. Students could then intervene and impact disease progression. Second Life http://www.secondlife.com http://www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Life Second Life Infrastructure http://www.infrastructures.org/papers/bootstrap/ Building Second Life for Health Education - Studying mental health in Second Life: http://www.smh.com.au/news/biztech/look-whos-got-a-second-life/2006/12/05/1165080887728.html Second Life is built from Linux Infra. (Ames env.). (See article above)) How will this scale with LPARs (Intel has 80 core cpu in testing). Could you build your own Second Life Grid with Intel 80 LPARs and new phase change memory? When will prices on hardware drop and Second Life be licensed? http://www.eetimes.com/showArticle.jhtml;jsessionid=KLB2XQVKEYT04QSNDLRCKHSCJUNN2JVN?articleID=196901229 http://www.eetimes.com/news/semi/showArticle.jhtml;jsessionid=KLB2XQVKEYT04QSNDLRCKHSCJUNN2JVN?articleID=188703213 http://www.eetimes.com/showArticle.jhtml;jsessionid=KLB2XQVKEYT04QSNDLRCKHSCJUNN2JVN?articleID=196901089

Supercomputer Educational Virtual Science

The State of New Mexico will install the third largest Supercomputer in the world 1/08-6/08. http://www.linux-watch.com/news/NS7848919863.html http://www.sgi.com/company_info/features/2007/altix_ice.html I will manage this system for the State of NM.

One of the purposes for this system is to stimulate kids interest in science. The center will educate teachers and students about supercomputing. The center will produce educational modules on science and engineering that can be used with 3D visualization.

State of New Mexico is creating a Computing Applications Center at INTEL in Rio Rancho, NM. http://www.aaas.org/spp/rd/forumbowles.pdf http://www.hpcwire.com/hpc/1874944.html

I am a former Science and Math teacher in NM. NM Students need to be introduced to Science and Math at many different levels. NM has problems recruiting math and science teachers. NM has resources at the National Labs (Sandia and Los Alamos) that would make a state supercomputer center available to all residents.

Second Life running on the Supercomputer during low periods of processing may be a viable solution to meeting the needs of researchers and educators. Especially as the computer ages and is more available as an educational system. Could Kid Second Life expand into the ageing supercomputers from National Labs? Most are Linux systems.

Has Second Life ever licensed software for educational world creation? Do they have an Open Source server version?

Second Life is now used to simulate real world environments on the web. http://lindenlab.com/ http://secondlife.com/ BBC has created a kid safe Second Life http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2007/jan/23/news.bbc

NASA creates virtual Second Life website http://colab.arc.nasa.gov/virtual http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17841125

How to build a Second Life Cluster:(NASA Ames created the Linux Cluster used by Second LIfe) http://www.infrastructures.org/papers/bootstrap http://www.infrastructures.org/papers/bootstrap/bootstrap.html

I build and manage Unix clusters for State of NM DOIT. How about placing the Kids Second Life cluster in Computing Applications Center at INTEL in Rio Rancho, NM. DOIT manages the site for the State of NM. Could the State of New Mexico create a virtual science lab on Second Life with Bradbury Science Museum (Los Alamos) and National Atomic Museum (Albq). http://www.atomicmuseum.com/ http://www.lanl.gov/museum/


Could Shriners kids get access to kid safe Second Life? Shriners burn victim sites: http://www.shrinershq.org/Hospitals/_Hospitals_for_Children/Shriners_Hospitals/burns.aspx http://www.shrinershq.org/Hospitals/Galveston/ http://www.ameriburn.org/ (Virtual Reality Games Used To Distract Young Burn Victims From Pain And Anxiety) http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/84055.php

How about a Second Life for burn kids, NM students?

I have participated in a curriculum for STEM students at Santa Fe Community College (SFCC). The 6th graders in local schools can take Friday afternoons at SFCC. We offer 2 week sections on building video games, CAD/CAM, robotics, biotech etc. Could Second Life for kids extend this STEM program to Web?

Do you have any suggestions for expanding the STEM curriculum Here is the Build Your Own Video Game outline:

Making your own Video Game - Computer Camp Taught at Wood Gormley Elementary and Santa Fe Community College 11/5,7,12,14/07 (3:00 -4:30 PM)- 12 5th and 6th graders

Kids enjoyed programming first in Scratch www.scratch.mit.edu for two days. They were then allowed to view and use Alice www.alice.org and Unreal Demo. The Unreal Demo was an unpopulated landscape of Unreal and documented in:(no violent characters) http://www.amazon.com/Mastering-Unreal-Technology-Level-Design/dp/0672326922

Math skills: Day 1 - Kids were able understand the basics of 2D (x,y) game design with Scratch. They learned cartesian coordinate system for Scratch. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cartesian_coordinate_system Day 1-2 - They also were exposed to simple variables and algebra to move Sprites. Day 3 - Loops and conditional statements Day 3-4 - Alice taught 3D (x,y,z) skills and Object Oriented programming

Programming skills: Scratch Stepwise refinement Algorithm design Collision detection Loops (repeat until, infinite) Conditional statements (if then) Boolean logic

Programming skills: Alice (all skills above) Methods Object programming

We may use Maya and Blender in the next section but how could we allow kids to enter 3D into Second Life? Are there any good Demos for this level user? Some tool (Sand Box) that would allow kids to integrate their objects into the complete world on a PC first without entering Second Life?


Henry Brown henry.brown@state.nm.us cell 795-3680 office 505 827-2509

Wikibrowse?

Hi,

I can´t get WikiBrowse to run. I´ve detailed the experience on the discussion page... Am I missing something? Thanks --Tomhannen 18:09, 3 December 2007 (EST)

Try it again. the file at -8.xo was really v.5. WikiBrowse-8 should work on 64x. Sj talk 01:55, 4 December 2007 (EST)

Add a bot flag to my bot

I am planning on running a bot, FireBot. Currently, I am just in the testing stages, but I already have butted heads with the wiki's CAPTCAHA. So, to avoid this, and to make Special:Recent Changes not be flooded with my talk page archiver/auto-signer bot, can you add a bot flag to it? Also, what is the vernacular for replying on each other's talks? ffm 16:48, 11 December 2007 (EST)

e-Learning for Kids course downloaded for testing

Hi SJ Can you (or your team) test our course on you XO (still waiting for ours): It's on the Library grid as a content bundle. I created an entry for EFK. Once this is OK we will put the rest of the courses on there tomorrow. Think we need to create a 'launch' page. What is required here. Any limitations, grahpics etc.? Regards AJ

Wiki page size limit

Hi Sj While editing Simplified user guide/lang-ru I came across an issue which as I understand deals with the limited size of a wiki page. When I exceed certain text length (64 kb as I understand) I can't save the page (I am using FF). Is there a way to fix it? Regards --Biarm 18:29, 12 December 2007 (EST)

Reverted edits

SJ, Thanks for reverting the edits made to Peripherals. Whats the most efficient way of doing this so I know for the furture. At the moment I just view the page I want from the history, click edit and save the page. Not really complicated but takes a bit of time. Hope all is well JoshSeal 08:44, 18 December 2007 (EST)

Update the "Developers" link to point to Developers

Hi SJ, could you update the side-bar link "Developers" to point to the Developer's Handbook instead of the Developer's Program page? (I don't even know where that side-bar is defined at the moment).

Thanks SJ, didn't even realize I was an admin on the wiki. Link is updated now.

Welcome page

We're going to start building on OLPC:Welcome. Haven't been able to get ahold of you, so I hope this is a suitable page name. General plan is a welcome of sorts, a short "get involved!" type intro, community stuff (possibly linking to Community, and some general useful links. --Nikki 20:08, 20 December 2007 (EST)

Sunday

Unfortunately, the dorms have this pesky habit of closing, so I have to leave on Friday. I'm not sure if any art community members are in the area, but I can easily attend the meeting through the power of the internets, or something similar. --Nikki 20:25, 20 December 2007 (EST)

coming back jan 2

Back in regular email contact Jan 2, will concentrate on becoming helpful to new volunteers and g1g1 people. Will email when I've skimmed all I can.

Jan 7-11 will be in Illinois with Scott Swanson and his crew of IMSA students who are getting started from Jan 7-11, volunteering full-time on OLPC. Back in Boston shortly thereafter and will continue to volunteer full-time until the start of Feb at least - going to NYC (OpenPlans) then, and I'll see what I can do from there.

Just so you know I'll be back alive and sending weekly updates in the near future. Hope all is well and things are unstable enough to be interesting - wish I could be there for the (present) chaos!

-Mel (from hastily borrowed laptop)

just a few things...

  • .svg warning labels
  • let's talk about what we have in mind for our 'contest'
  • should I try and get more Oliners involved in support and RT and such?

--Nikki 13:54, 23 December 2007 (EST)

Micropolis?

Hi SJ... You mention on Talk:Activities that there is a newer version of Micropolis that does Python stuff—which is not the case for the code I see in the repository; it looks like the regular SimCity C/tcl/tk code so far. Is someone actively working on this? Just wondering... —Joe 12:26, 24 December 2007 (EST)

Wiki admin rights

Hi SJ, What do I need to do to obtain Wiki admin rights? I need them to maintain the Russian OLPC community. --Biarm 21:38, 24 December 2007 (EST)

Reply on your talk. --Sj leave me a message

24c3

hey, sj, are you going to be at the chaos communication congress again?

I am...

Where's the project page for winning the OLPC XO? WiseWoman

Please post project ideas to the Contributors#Applying for an XO page, and create a separate page with details about your project. --Sj leave me a message

Cannot edit Activated_Upgrade

It appears the page is full-protected.

Could this be changed to semi-protected, as I have some changes to make that should make the instructions more clear.

ffm 10:47, 30 December 2007 (EST)

Ditto!

I have applied for the admin permission via Administrators. Could I at least get the permission to edit Activated_Upgrade? Thanks a lot!

Chihyu 18:52, 5 January 2008 (EST)

Tux Paint

Thanks for the encouragement.

Any idea if Tux Paint could ever get included by default? I realize that I'm about a year late, and stuck competing with an established activity. Kids seem to greatly prefer Tux Paint though. It's pretty weird seeing bug reports against the other program that are pretty much asking for Tux Paint features.

AlbertCahalan 22:15, 7 January 2008 (EST)

  • smaller - Hmmm, people are wanting Tux Paint because it isn't a stripped-down bare-bones Microsoft Paint clone. There is even a bug report against the other Paint program asking for stamps, which is about 26M of Tux Paint. (15M *.png, 10M *.ogg, 1M other) It's even set to grow quite a bit for translated audio stamp descriptions; currently I only have that for a few languages. Just over half of the audio is translated audio stamp descriptions for the "ca" ("Catalan" or "Catala") language. So that would be 5M each for French, Yoruba, Spanish, and so on. The total hit for full i18n for the existing translations comes to about 375M, which does happen to fit on the laptop.
  • able to mesh/collaborate - This is still lacking documentation. I'm not even sure how it could work for a paint program; who wins if people paint in the same location? Shared activites aren't supposed to be master-slave as far as I know, but then you get into a distributed version control problem and thus reinvent git. Art is also kind of personal; having somebody messing with your art is not nice. I expect troubles with the undo/redo buttons, lots of tears, and even physical fights.
  • sugar-like menus - Ouch. I can't just switch to these because they are too hard for little kids to use. The menus aren't part of X or even GTK; they are part of the Python prejudice. I have trouble imagining what this might look like; remember that fonts and stamps need some kind of scrolling mechanism. Side scrolling is kind of yucky, and normal scroll wheels go up-down instead of left-right.
  • bundles on the wiki - No, because Tux Paint is GPL software. I can not relicense under the Creative Commons Attribution 2.5 license.

{{Welcome}}

Is it OK if I remove the "Cheers, Sj" bit, or should I just make my own template? ffm 16:35, 8 January 2008 (EST)

I was just going to ask the same question tonight, but then I noticed that it had already been changed when I added a couple of welcomes to new user pages. BlankVerse 05:37, 11 January 2008 (EST)
Who is the go-to person regarding wiki management? See, for example, my note under interwiki above. BlankVerse 17:45, 11 January 2008 (EST)
It doesn't even have to be w:, just as long as Wikipedia: worked (which is the standard interwiki link for non-wikimedia wikis).
Another wiki suggestion: With so many people showing up on the OLPC wiki that haven't had any wiki editing experience there should probably be something like the Wikipedia's talk page template, but instead of manually adding it to talk pages it should show up automatically on every talk page (much like the donation appeal shows up on every article page during fund drives). I imagine that there is probably a way for admins to set that up.
As for welcoming myself using the welcome template, I do that on every wiki that I sign up on (and usually leave a slightly snarky comment in the summary if there is no welcome template on the wiki). It's one way of getting rid of that ugly red-link under "My talk" if there is nothing on your talk page (and also seeing if anyone is watching Recent changes). ;-) BlankVerse 18:36, 11 January 2008 (EST)
The template is updated now so that it auto-signes when subst:'d. ffm 12:16, 12 January 2008 (EST)

Emulating the XO Page

Hello SJ,

I'm Mitra, a student from the Illinois Math and Science Academy and I am currently doing an Intersession with Mel, as you may already know. As part of this Intersession I took the opportunity to improve OLPC's tutorial page on how to emulate the software on their own computer. I hope that you can take the time to look at it, and perhaps leave some comments. Thank You: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Emulating_the_XO/Quick_Start.

EFK

Hi SJ, I see you are rearranging the Library, starts to look much better! We now have our XO's and have tested the course ONLINE using Opera with Flash-48. It works but not great, Frames are slow, sound is ok, and it crashes so now and then Our team in India is busy analyzing the following:

1. What are the issues with Browse(Firefox) 2. What do we need to do to make it an Activity(.xo) We need more then a link..... 3. What do we need to do with the animation to increase the performance?

Can you help us or point us in the right directin so we can speed this up?

We have had a huge increase in course usage the last months as now thousands of kids globally in 42 countries use one or more of our courses DAILY. However there are notably 2 continents that do not feature: Africa and Latin America. The latter we shall resolve to have more courses in Portuguese and Spanish shortly. The first one we will have to work on......

Looking forward to continue to join you in our joint education mission for the developing world. AJ

AJ, I'm noticing crashing issues as well. I've been having a hard time testing flash properly, working on that next week. If it is to remain Flash, and not to create any sort of saved files, you can leave it as a content bundle in the library grid. To speed it up, you might want to use different flash libraries. To increase performance, you can rewrite in py/gtk ;-)
But to bundle a separate activity, you need to have a stand-alone executable (in this case, it would be enough to provide a standalone Flash player) and you will have to included all needed libraries within your activity. Then run the setup.py script that comes with Sugar to create a bundle; and upload the resulting .xo --Sj leave me a message 19:36, 11 January 2008 (EST)

Help needed with picture formatting

I am unable to separately set the width and height of a picture/thumbnail. For this reason many pics are not looking well. See the rows of 3 pics in a row on the Measure page to see what I'm trying to do. Thanks. --Arjs 13:46, 12 January 2008 (EST)

Thanks for the welcome & cute little green obsession

Hi SJ! It's fascinating to watch the G1G1 program turn the olpc developer community into a developer/(adult)user community, especially with the needs of the G1G1generation being so different than those of the real olpc child users.

One possible frame: Treat all adults as "teachers" who need to learn about the XO for their own use (write a memo to an administrator; search the web for lesson materials, e-mail colleagues, etc) as well as for its pedagogical purposes.Some of the "how I did it" bbs material could fit that model, if aggregated on some wiki pages.

Best of luck integrating/linking/differentiating the BBSs, lists, Wikis etc. I've been in "where to start" mode for a month. Not the best environment for my personal mixture of olpc/add/ocd... :-)

Assuming that there are others like me who are frustrated with one of the basic tools, I added a few paragraphs to the Write page today and would like to do more... Perhaps that is already covered in a new edition of the beginner's guide since my last look; if so it needs a link on that page... but my XO-centric vacation is over; I have about 90 students of my own to face tomorrow and a syllabus still in need of updating! During the semester, I may enlist students into helping think the the SilverStringers material into an '10-year-old-international-stringers' model...

Elsewhere, I've documented my own olpc distractions and xocentricities on my User:Robby wiki page, at http://del.icio.us/bstepno/olpc and here: http://boblog.blogspot.com (By the way, I've managed to put a 'post to delicious' button on top of XO Opera)

OLPC is inspired, inspiring and addictive; you're lucky to be there in an official (and, I hope, reasonably salaried) capacity. I'll help when I can. Robby 16:09, 13 January 2008 (EST)

Wiki admin privs

You really should give them to Nikki already, especially if she's doing major revisions/updates to the front page and such. :-P Mchua 18:01, 13 January 2008 (EST)

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