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== borking pages ==
Hi Seth, thanks for pointing out the borkable pages; only one of them really needed to go.
We could use some more cleanup pages here on the wiki to coordinate efforts to find weird articles.


== Product News Page ==
Tell me more about how your speex work is coming -- have you tested out how well that works recently?
What was your reason for removing 'OLPC' from the Product News Page? This is still a page maintained by OLPC, but I cleaned it up today because we expect countries are going to start referring to the page for solid information in regards to peripherals. [[User:JoshSeal|JoshSeal]] 17:19, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
And I'd love to help get that flickr idea going; perhaps creating a group about it on flickr and certainly creating a set of tags... is there a standard way to do this within the flickr community?
: I agree with your observations. Although I think its important to have a page that new countries interested in OLPC can refer to and gain at least an approximate understanding of what's available. Who has the Solar price list? Richard? Also, I think the Handcrank should be put in a new section such as 'past products' with a summary of why it didn't work rather than just removing it - otherwise people will always ask "what ever happened to the hand crank?". I'll make these changes.
: I consider this page more useful and relevant for countries rather than G1G1 - they can just go to XO Explosion. It should thus be designed that way. Each product does have its own pages I think, I'll add them. I speak to Richard often regarding tech power issues, but I was hoping someone was in charge of costs for all the products...


== Hey, Dinosaur book idea... ==
[[User:Sj|Sj]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Sj|<font color="fc9"><small>talk</small></font>]] 01:36, 14 October 2007 (EDT)
I was working on creating a program with dinosaur information and I tried making an eBook which would explain dinosaurs in a picture-book sort of way... I just wrote this up over the weekend so let me know what your input is:


http://creationpalooza.googlepages.com/TheDinosaurStory-English.doc
:Wiki cleanup:I've been working on updating the OBX templates on a few of the activities. I would say that 50% still need to be worked on and about 25% were already correct. It's pretty easy to work on while I'm working at my day job, so it's not a big deal. I'll try to keep an eye out for strange pages like that, vandalism seems like it's pretty well taken care of ATM.


http://creationpalooza.googlepages.com/TheDinosaurStory-English.pdf
:Speex: I haven't made much progress because I just moved and don't have interweb at home hooked up. It's not really feasible to transcode in an windows environment, at least not in batches. I will have the 'nix server up sometime next week that I can run batching tests on. I have pulled in a few gigs of audiobooks from archive and torrents, so I'm ready to transcode. I have the minimum settings that I liked, so we'll see if they can get the books small enough. I might have to sacrifice a little more quality. I'll keep you informed. Testable package ETA: one week


-[[User:Ndoiron]] 21 Apr 2008
:Flickr, I love social media, there's just so much that can be done with such a community. I have a group started at [http://flickr.com/groups/olpc/ http://flickr.com/groups/olpc/] which wasn't taken as a group address yet surprisingly. There is another existing group that is more about photos OF the OLPC than photos FOR the OLPC. There are already a few groups that deal with Public Domain images, and an entire system for searching for photos with various CC license. It is fairly easy to write up a default 'invite' text that you can copy and paste as a comment on photos. There is enough scripting on flickr that the user is notified and is given a button to accept or decline. I have invited a few photos of the OLPC, but that's really not what the children WITH olpc's are going to want to see.


== Howdy, fellow Weekly Zine contributor. ==
::That's the only thing slowing me down with Flickr so far. We can ask people to contribute photos they would /like/ on the OLPC, photos /of/ the OLPC, photos that have acceptable copyright or any combination thereof. We should probably start a Contributer page like [[Internet_Archive]] and now [[Librivox]](see below) to figure out: what licenses are acceptable (does Asheesh's lib let us do CC -by attribution in metadata?? that would be excellent), what type of content is wanted, should these be in subject based packages. Maybe this is known, but /I/ don't know the answers, and I would like that sort of thing to be accepted in writing before I go out and sorta-kinda represent the OLPC project. I've been worried about getting 'off message' when I've been I've been talking to some people over at Wikibooks and the slovenian professor, so I've been on the far side of careful and I've been doing my best to represent myself as a volunteer and talk about things that /I/ would like for the OLPC, not what the OLPC people want/need. It's not like a TON of policy stuff is on the wiki or talked about in IRC. Well this is getting lengthy, so I will see/talk to you tomorrow.[[User:Sethwoodworth|Specialization is for Insects]] 00:32, 15 October 2007 (EDT)


Howdy, fellow Weekly Zine contributor.
== Librivox ==


Just thought to give a shout-out to some our editorial board, to let them know of some recent updates I did for 'Issue 0 (pilot)'.
This should be a proper "contributing site" page, after the model used by [[Internet_Archive]]. If you have a moment and can fill in that kind of info -- links, icon, and extent of collection -- that would be useful. As an aside, I'm trying to get groups of teachers and librarians to have reading hours where they record themselves and upload to librivox -- since kids libraries already do a lot of reading and even podcasting; and I want them to start doing multiple-person recordings, with a reasonable tech setup and multiple mikes... there are still no public recordings of shakespeare, for instance! Cheers, [[User:Sj|Sj]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Sj|<font color="fc9"><small>talk</small></font>]] 01:38, 14 October 2007 (EDT)


Took the day off from work (easy when one works for oneself, I just had to ask myself for a day off. :)... get a few items done...
:Yeah, I would love to do that! I'll put that on my to-do list. It's so great that you're helping people contribute to Librivox. It's such a great project. What if we had a that on whatever "how you can contribute" page that exists. Far more layman users are going to be able to contribute to that (with a $20 usb mic or less) and a copy of Audacity, than most of the current OLPC work that is going on right now.
:I wish I had my little booth put back together so I could read more often. PS, there are a few Shakespeare recordings on LV, but not nearly enough. [http://librivox.org/newcatalog/search.php?title=&author=shakespeare&status=all&action=Search Shakespeare]. [[User:Sethwoodworth|Specialization is for Insects]] 23:47, 14 October 2007 (EDT)


I created am improved layout and structure to help seed ideas and encourage submissions. I went through all the notes and ideas, laid them out best i could in this structure. (and as always, open to feedback and opinions :).
== Thanks for the headsup. ==


Hopefully, this will make it easier, and encourage people to add more entries and submissions. *hint* *hint* *hint* *poke* *prod* "Say no more* *say no more* *wink* *wink*
There are also some other outdated bits of information on the site and on this wiki, including notes about initial deployments and country partners... [[User:Sj|Sj]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Sj|<font color="fc9"><small>talk</small></font>]]


[[Weekly zine/0]] --[[User:Ixo|ixo]] 21:26, 5 February 2008 (EST)
== Supposed Wiki Spam ==
: And it's looking good! I've gotten pulled into pressing things this week, but am still thinking about projects otd to highlight. --[[User:Sj|Sj]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Sj|<font style="color:#f70; font-size:70%">talk</font>]] 13:10, 6 February 2008 (EST)


== Adminship tools ==
Hi. [[Travel reservations]] and [[Semipostal stamp for email]] are both serious pages, not spam.
The page [[Semipostal stamp for email]] also contains the idea for an OLPC calling plan, which is related to the heading "Certified OLPC telecom partner" on [[Fundraising certificate]]. One could probably move all the content to the [[Fundraising certificate]] page but I don't see this as urgent. --[[User:Fasten|Fasten]] 17:15, 20 October 2007 (EDT)


Dear Weth, you are now an [[administrators|admin]]. Use your tools with care and in good health. Be particularly careful about page protection -- avoid it wherever possible, and unprotect pages when the cause has passed. --[[User:Sj|Sj]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Sj|<font style="color:#f70; font-size:70%">talk</font>]] 02:13, 10 February 2008 (EST)
==[[User:Sethwoodworth#Flickr|Flickr]]==


:w00t1 :) [[User:Sethwoodworth|is for Insects]] 12:26, 11 February 2008 (EST)
The link to the [http://flickr.com/photos/group/olpc/ Flickr group] doesn't work. Flickr says it doesn't recognize the group. What's up? (''[[User:Orcmid|Orcmid]] 20:18, 19 December 2007 (EST)'')


== Uploading Hesperian goodies ==
== Liva repos page ==
Hi Seth, thanks for writing. I understand your edit at the XMMS page and I'm glad to help with your other pages, but I must say that I don't know much about Fedora's repositories. I'll keep an eye out for a Livna page and I'll try to improve it where I can.


== ping? ==

Yo, Seth - are you still alive? Trying to sync up re [[Health Jam]] ping me sometime (any medium - call me, even, when you're free, my number's on my userpage). [[User:Mchua|Mchua]] 10:59, 1 April 2008 (EDT)
: reping? [[User:Mchua|Mchua]] 03:49, 8 April 2008 (EDT)

== Weather Stations ==

Seth,

I would love to explore the integration of the XO or XS with low cost weather observation equipment/stations. If this is something you would like to seriously consider, I might be able to bring together a team of Air Force Weather veterans and experts to work on this project. Let me know, and thanks again for the welcome.

Doug

== Adminship ==

Thanks for your support for my nomination to adminship, SJ (or rather what I believe to be his anon-IP avatar) completed the process today. [[User:Cjl|Cjl]] 20:47, 28 May 2008 (EDT)

== Academic Papers ==

Hi, you may want to take a look at [[Academic Papers]]. [[User:Yamaplos|Yamaplos]] 06:53, 22 June 2008 (EDT)

== source docs for flyers ==
I used Illustrator, and converted all the text to outlines... so their not editable any more. [[User:AuntiMame|AuntiMame]] 09:15, 2July2008

== [[Review squad recruitment letter]] ==

cleaned up and categorized. [[User:Mchua|Mchua]]

== re: cluttering on the wiki ==

Yep, you called [[Preinstalled XS]] out correctly. It's clutter that I don't have firm plans to get back to (although it's fresh in my mind and will likely be spinning around there in the next few days). I had approximately 5 minutes to type before running for the train, and (imo) poorly-discoverable clutter is better than nonexistence - you found the page and did something about it, did you not? ;)

I'm not a green volunteer, so I've seen the threshold above which activation energy will be too high for enough people to change their habits enough such that a meme takes hold - and I'm trying to find ways to lower these barriers as well.

If the desire is to have people put the things you listed in all their pages, here's one thing to do: make templates and make it insanely easy to use them - or better, make it require effort to ''not'' use them (that is, have them on by default - not sure if/how this is possible). See [[Template:Project]] and [[Template:Jam]] - though using those templates themselves requires effort, they fill stuff in with decent defaults.

Now if things could be scripted such that every new page created by link text in the [[Open projects]] list (or by clicking a button on that page) would start out as that template - actually, give me a second...

*tinkertinkertinker*

All right, look at [[Open projects]] and let me know what you think. Or better yet, improve.

[[User:Mchua|Mchua]]

== vandalism report ==
User:Fifty-eight has deleted content on a number of pages.
[[User:Davewa|Davewa]] 13:19, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

== Activity-summary update ==

Can you update the spans in the [[Template:Activity-summary|activity-summary]] template so that they match that used on the current [[activities]] page? then we can finally move over to the [[activities/tmp]] style before the onslaught of new activity devs & updates.
See also [[IRC:Main_page]]?

== urban postering campaigns? ==

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_urban_postering_campaign#Content

== Fab@home & appropedia ==

I've been somewhat active on the Fab@Home wiki... what's on your mind? I can be emailed from here now, too. [[User:Remi|Remi]] 18:10, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

== Add links to orgs and pages ==

* Add self/group as interested in curation: [[curators]]
* Add links to webpages and sites : [[Content_projects/examples/weblinks]]

== Old repository notes ==
[[User:Sj/R]]

== Developing countries... ==

The question arises (at least to me) - could useful implements be fabbed that would benefit people within developing countries? Or perhaps this sort of technology could be used as a means of learning. I'll have to think more about this, and if it is alright, I will definitely not hesitate to share thoughts if they happen upon me. Do possible answers to how Fab@Home technology could be used in developing countries occur to you? [[User:Remi|Remi]] 03:33, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

== More Fab@Home ==
Hi Seth,
Hi Seth,
I found out from Diane Serley (on the RepRap forums) that you've got a Fab@Home that you are looking to experiment with. I'm currently leading Cornell's Fab@Home efforts and I'd like to hear a bit more about what you are doing with it and if we can help. Please contact me at my Fab@Home [http://fabathome.org/wiki/index.php?title=User:MaxLobovsky page] --Max 02:08, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
Once I get an account I'll upload the Hesperian In Design files for you to convert.
Can we talk about health materials sometime?
[[User:Anna B|Anna B]] 20:24, 19 December 2007 (EST)


:Well getting it running under *nix (without WINE) would be a good project in itself. If you really don't have any ideas, I suggest you put it together and start playing with it. Good luck and let me know if you'd like to discuss any ideas. --Max
== re: photo ==


== reverts of annoying usernames ==
it's not the most useful photo for identification purposes, but those are findable enough via google, and I think everyone ought to wear a superhero costume at some point... we may have to make you one as a side project during the health jam. ;) also, that costume (along with the costumes of the rest of my friends going as batman chars) was created in a mad rush to the thrift store + scissors in the car about 2-3 hours before that picture was taken at my school's halloween party... the following year we went as the cast of Serenity/Firefly. anyway. [[User:Mchua|Mchua]] 14:42, 5 February 2008 (EST)


I recommend renames before mass reverts. Try pokingn a bureaucrat to rename vandals. --[[User:Sj|Sj]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Sj|<font style="color:#f70; font-size:70%">talk</font>]]
== Howdy, fellow Weekly Zine contributor. ==


==design gang proposal==
Howdy, fellow Weekly Zine contributor.
I've posted a proposal for image upload file structure and categorization. [[OLPC:Design_gang/proposed_file_structure]] [[User:AuntiMame|AuntiMame]] 14:37, 14 September 2008 (UTC)


==wixi==
Just thought to give a shout-out to some our editorial board, to let them know of some recent updates I did for 'Issue 0 (pilot)'.
hi Seth and thanks for your interest in [[wixi]].. http://alpha.twext.com usr "test" pwd "test" is alpha testing basic twexter functions between any of many languages.. open code at http://gitub.com/tudisco/twext.. now we're working on printing and multilingual URLS.. then wiki-like history, sound interface, synxi, open social etc etc.. there's lots to do but most valuable now is please test the interface, thanks!! [[User:Duke|Duke]] 20:36, 3 October 2008 (UTC)


== Outreach gang and flickr==
Took the day off from work (easy when one works for oneself, I just had to ask myself for a day off. :)... get a few items done...
See [[OLPC:Outreach_gang]]. --[[User:Sj|Sj]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Sj|<font style="color:#f70; font-size:70%">talk</font>]] 06:43, 6 October 2008 (UTC)


Flickr extension : see [[User:Sj/quotes]] for an example.
I created am improved layout and structure to help seed ideas and encourage submissions. I went through all the notes and ideas, laid them out best i could in this structure. (and as always, open to feedback and opinions :).
: From m. vorburger : [http://www.flickr.com/photos/vorburger/tags/olpc/ more flickry goodness]


== sitemeters ==
Hopefully, this will make it easier, and encourage people to add more entries and submissions. *hint* *hint* *hint* *poke* *prod* "Say no more* *say no more* *wink* *wink*


We should add something like [http://www.sitemeter.com/ sitemeter] to our sites for basic public consumption.
[[Weekly zine/0]] --[[User:Ixo|ixo]] 21:26, 5 February 2008 (EST)

: And it's looking good! I've gotten pulled into pressing things this week, but am still thinking about projects otd to highlight. --[[User:Sj|Sj]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Sj|<font style="color:#f70; font-size:70%">talk</font>]] 13:10, 6 February 2008 (EST)
== trip reports ==

Seth,

I just made [[Internships]] point to [[Travel to deployments]]. Can you think of some ways to spruce it up?

--[[User:Mstone|Michael Stone]]

== main page design ==
Check out the latest note on [[Talk:Main_Page]]...

== Notes for the world ==
[http://www.rentmobile.info/?p=1770 A Galadima video] - where are they now? A revisit once they have updaed machines would rock. --[[User:Sj|Sj]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Sj|<font style="color:#f70; font-size:70%">talk</font>]] 23:56, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

== French textbook to Wikibooks ==

Hello. In case you don't see it, I left you a message on [http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/User_talk:Sethwoodworth#French_textbook_import your Wikibooks talk page]. --[[User:Hagindaz|Hagindaz]] 22:13, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 21:39, 23 February 2012

Old conversations saved /Archive1

Product News Page

What was your reason for removing 'OLPC' from the Product News Page? This is still a page maintained by OLPC, but I cleaned it up today because we expect countries are going to start referring to the page for solid information in regards to peripherals. JoshSeal 17:19, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

I agree with your observations. Although I think its important to have a page that new countries interested in OLPC can refer to and gain at least an approximate understanding of what's available. Who has the Solar price list? Richard? Also, I think the Handcrank should be put in a new section such as 'past products' with a summary of why it didn't work rather than just removing it - otherwise people will always ask "what ever happened to the hand crank?". I'll make these changes.
I consider this page more useful and relevant for countries rather than G1G1 - they can just go to XO Explosion. It should thus be designed that way. Each product does have its own pages I think, I'll add them. I speak to Richard often regarding tech power issues, but I was hoping someone was in charge of costs for all the products...

Hey, Dinosaur book idea...

I was working on creating a program with dinosaur information and I tried making an eBook which would explain dinosaurs in a picture-book sort of way... I just wrote this up over the weekend so let me know what your input is:

http://creationpalooza.googlepages.com/TheDinosaurStory-English.doc

http://creationpalooza.googlepages.com/TheDinosaurStory-English.pdf

-User:Ndoiron 21 Apr 2008

Howdy, fellow Weekly Zine contributor.

Howdy, fellow Weekly Zine contributor.

Just thought to give a shout-out to some our editorial board, to let them know of some recent updates I did for 'Issue 0 (pilot)'.

Took the day off from work (easy when one works for oneself, I just had to ask myself for a day off. :)... get a few items done...

I created am improved layout and structure to help seed ideas and encourage submissions. I went through all the notes and ideas, laid them out best i could in this structure. (and as always, open to feedback and opinions  :).

Hopefully, this will make it easier, and encourage people to add more entries and submissions. *hint* *hint* *hint* *poke* *prod* "Say no more* *say no more* *wink* *wink*

Weekly zine/0 --ixo 21:26, 5 February 2008 (EST)

And it's looking good! I've gotten pulled into pressing things this week, but am still thinking about projects otd to highlight. --Sj talk 13:10, 6 February 2008 (EST)

Adminship tools

Dear Weth, you are now an admin. Use your tools with care and in good health. Be particularly careful about page protection -- avoid it wherever possible, and unprotect pages when the cause has passed. --Sj talk 02:13, 10 February 2008 (EST)

w00t1 :) is for Insects 12:26, 11 February 2008 (EST)

Liva repos page

Hi Seth, thanks for writing. I understand your edit at the XMMS page and I'm glad to help with your other pages, but I must say that I don't know much about Fedora's repositories. I'll keep an eye out for a Livna page and I'll try to improve it where I can.

ping?

Yo, Seth - are you still alive? Trying to sync up re Health Jam ping me sometime (any medium - call me, even, when you're free, my number's on my userpage). Mchua 10:59, 1 April 2008 (EDT)

reping? Mchua 03:49, 8 April 2008 (EDT)

Weather Stations

Seth,

I would love to explore the integration of the XO or XS with low cost weather observation equipment/stations. If this is something you would like to seriously consider, I might be able to bring together a team of Air Force Weather veterans and experts to work on this project. Let me know, and thanks again for the welcome.

Doug

Adminship

Thanks for your support for my nomination to adminship, SJ (or rather what I believe to be his anon-IP avatar) completed the process today. Cjl 20:47, 28 May 2008 (EDT)

Academic Papers

Hi, you may want to take a look at Academic Papers. Yamaplos 06:53, 22 June 2008 (EDT)

source docs for flyers

I used Illustrator, and converted all the text to outlines... so their not editable any more. AuntiMame 09:15, 2July2008

Review squad recruitment letter

cleaned up and categorized. Mchua

re: cluttering on the wiki

Yep, you called Preinstalled XS out correctly. It's clutter that I don't have firm plans to get back to (although it's fresh in my mind and will likely be spinning around there in the next few days). I had approximately 5 minutes to type before running for the train, and (imo) poorly-discoverable clutter is better than nonexistence - you found the page and did something about it, did you not? ;)

I'm not a green volunteer, so I've seen the threshold above which activation energy will be too high for enough people to change their habits enough such that a meme takes hold - and I'm trying to find ways to lower these barriers as well.

If the desire is to have people put the things you listed in all their pages, here's one thing to do: make templates and make it insanely easy to use them - or better, make it require effort to not use them (that is, have them on by default - not sure if/how this is possible). See Template:Project and Template:Jam - though using those templates themselves requires effort, they fill stuff in with decent defaults.

Now if things could be scripted such that every new page created by link text in the Open projects list (or by clicking a button on that page) would start out as that template - actually, give me a second...

  • tinkertinkertinker*

All right, look at Open projects and let me know what you think. Or better yet, improve.

Mchua

vandalism report

User:Fifty-eight has deleted content on a number of pages. Davewa 13:19, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Activity-summary update

Can you update the spans in the activity-summary template so that they match that used on the current activities page? then we can finally move over to the activities/tmp style before the onslaught of new activity devs & updates.

See also IRC:Main_page?

urban postering campaigns?

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_urban_postering_campaign#Content

Fab@home & appropedia

I've been somewhat active on the Fab@Home wiki... what's on your mind? I can be emailed from here now, too. Remi 18:10, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Add links to orgs and pages

Old repository notes

User:Sj/R

Developing countries...

The question arises (at least to me) - could useful implements be fabbed that would benefit people within developing countries? Or perhaps this sort of technology could be used as a means of learning. I'll have to think more about this, and if it is alright, I will definitely not hesitate to share thoughts if they happen upon me. Do possible answers to how Fab@Home technology could be used in developing countries occur to you? Remi 03:33, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

More Fab@Home

Hi Seth, I found out from Diane Serley (on the RepRap forums) that you've got a Fab@Home that you are looking to experiment with. I'm currently leading Cornell's Fab@Home efforts and I'd like to hear a bit more about what you are doing with it and if we can help. Please contact me at my Fab@Home page --Max 02:08, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Well getting it running under *nix (without WINE) would be a good project in itself. If you really don't have any ideas, I suggest you put it together and start playing with it. Good luck and let me know if you'd like to discuss any ideas. --Max

reverts of annoying usernames

I recommend renames before mass reverts. Try pokingn a bureaucrat to rename vandals. --Sj talk

design gang proposal

I've posted a proposal for image upload file structure and categorization. OLPC:Design_gang/proposed_file_structure AuntiMame 14:37, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

wixi

hi Seth and thanks for your interest in wixi.. http://alpha.twext.com usr "test" pwd "test" is alpha testing basic twexter functions between any of many languages.. open code at http://gitub.com/tudisco/twext.. now we're working on printing and multilingual URLS.. then wiki-like history, sound interface, synxi, open social etc etc.. there's lots to do but most valuable now is please test the interface, thanks!! Duke 20:36, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Outreach gang and flickr

See OLPC:Outreach_gang. --Sj talk 06:43, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Flickr extension : see User:Sj/quotes for an example.

From m. vorburger : more flickry goodness

sitemeters

We should add something like sitemeter to our sites for basic public consumption.

trip reports

Seth,

I just made Internships point to Travel to deployments. Can you think of some ways to spruce it up?

--Michael Stone

main page design

Check out the latest note on Talk:Main_Page...

Notes for the world

A Galadima video - where are they now? A revisit once they have updaed machines would rock. --Sj talk 23:56, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

French textbook to Wikibooks

Hello. In case you don't see it, I left you a message on your Wikibooks talk page. --Hagindaz 22:13, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

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