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[[Image:Alphaomega.jpg|thumb|200px|''"I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end."'' —Jesus (Rev. 22:13)]]
For teamwiki account access, please add a request at [[OLPC:Requests for permissions]] (the [[#Teamwiki requests]] section below is now deprecated). Thanks! --[[User:Sj|Sj]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Sj|<font color="fc9" style="font-size:70%">leave me a message</font>]] 14:55, 29 January 2008 (EST)
'''Jesus Christ''' is the person who changed the world forever with teachings of [[love]] and [[faith]], using logical parables like the [[Prodigal Son]] that flow from the existence of [[God]]. Jesus then personally set the ultimate example for mankind by triumphing over the greatest evil imaginable, the Roman scourging and crucifixion.
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In religious terms, Jesus is the only Son of [[God]] and prophesied [[Messiah]] who, at the appointed time, was sent by His [[God the Father|Father]] and became a man to be the payment for the penalty of sin that separated us from [[God]] and to reveal to us the loving nature of God through his human person (1 John 4:10; 2 Corinthians 5:19). Although He was sinless, he bore the penalty for sin upon Himself for us.


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Speaking to his disciples, Jesus says,
{{cquote|'''John 14:1-15'''<br /><u>Believers will be in his Father's house</u><br />Do not let your heart be troubled; believe in God, believe also in Me. “In My Father’s house are many dwelling places; if it were not so, I would have told you; for I go to prepare a place for you. “If I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself, that where I am, there you may be also. “And you know the way where I am going.” Thomas said to Him, “Lord, we do not know where You are going, how do we know the way?”<br /><u>Jesus himself is the only way people can access his Father and his Father's house</u><br />Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me.<br /><u>If you know Jesus, you know his Father</u><br />“If you had known Me, you would have known My Father also; from now on you know Him, and have seen Him.” Philip said to Him, “Lord, show us the Father, and it is enough for us.” Jesus said to him, “Have I been so long with you, and yet you have not come to know Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; how can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? “Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father is in Me? The words that I say to you I do not speak on My own initiative, but the Father abiding in Me does His works. “Believe Me that I am in the Father and the Father is in Me; otherwise believe because of the works themselves. “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who believes in Me, the works that I do, he will do also; and greater works than these he will do; because I go to the Father. “Whatever you ask in My name, that will I do, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son. “If you ask Me anything in My name, I will do it. “If you love Me, you will keep My commandments.}}


By the power of the [[Holy Spirit]], Jesus was conceived in the [[womb]] of the virgin [[Virgin Mary|Mary]], and became man in an event known as the [[Incarnation]], as referred to in Isaiah 7:14. Indeed, the calendar itself reflects this truth, with the traditional calculation of Jesus’ birth marking the first century A.D., that is, "''in the year of Our Lord…''." The [[John the Apostle|apostle John]] wrote in his gospel the following regarding Jesus Christ: "''For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life''" (John 3:16).
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When he was about thirty, Jesus was baptized by [[John the Baptist]], inaugurating his ministry. Jesus of [[Nazareth]] is the Christ or Messiah, prophesied in the [[Old Testament]] (Greek: Χριστός; [[Aramaic]]: 'משיחא'). Jesus proclaimed that “[t]he time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent, and believe in the Gospel.”<ref>Mark 1:14-15.</ref> As signs of these truths, Jesus performed various miracles.


== Everything works again ==
However, not all who heard the Lord believed in him, and, because he “was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God”, some sought to put him to death.<ref>John 5:18.</ref> Jesus was handed over to the Roman governor [[Pontius Pilate]] and crucified. But it was through his redemptive death, as the [[Holy Scripture|scriptures]] had foretold, that Jesus reconciled mankind with God.<ref>Romans 5:10.</ref> And so, on the third day, in a truly historical event, Jesus physically rose from the dead, making possible salvation and eternal life for those who believe in him. Indeed, his very name, ''Yeshua'' (Hebrew 'יהושע') means "[[Salvation]]" and is the concatenated form of ''Yahoshua'', ‘[[YHWH]] is salvation’. After appearing to his disciples on various occasions, Jesus ascended to Heaven, where he acts as our mediator, assuring, by his constant intercession, the permanent outpouring of the Holy Spirit.
Thank you, dear Samuel and OLPC-Team --[[User:Papillon|Papillon]] 20:34, 11 August 2009 (UTC)


== Jesus' Life ==
== OLPCO2e, et al ==
Hi Sven,
===The Pre-existence of Jesus before His incarnation===
Though it is commonly thought that Jesus had his beginning with His birth or with His conception in the womb of Mary, and that personality begins with birth and develops with age, the Person of Jesus on earth was one and the same Person as was the Son of God in the presence of the Father before the incarnation. That is why the transition of His becoming a man on earth is considered such a great act of humility and self forgetfulness - to have left it all, for us, for which He will always be honored and extolled.


I was cleaning up the wiki this morning and found all of the CO2 pages, which blossomed over the spring. There were about 12 pages which all had the same content,
Though he was in the form of God , He did not cling to this equality with God, but emptied himself to assume the condition of a slave, and became as men are, and being found as a man, he was even humbler yet, even to accepting death, even on a cross. But God raised him high, and gave him the name which is above all other names, so that all beings, in the heavens, and on the earth, and in the underworld, should bend the knee at the name of Jesus, and that every tongue should acclaim, Jesus Christ as Lord, to the glory of God the Father. Philippians 2:5-11
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so I merged them (without the use of any gang :) into [[OLPCO2e]]. [[User:Sj|Sj]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Sj|<font style="color:#f70; font-size:70%">talk</font>]] 13:00, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
I cannot find the page: OLPCO2e link Agenda 21 anymore. How can I recuperate it? It is a very important page for all in OLPC and OLPCO2e. Thanky--[[User:SvenAERTS|SvenAERTS]] 11:20, 9 December 2009 (UTC)


I also replied - but on my talk page - on your other paragraphs. This tool notifies you of that or do I just have to mention and you go there and have a look then or I have to do like above and copy/paste parts- topic per topic - to copy/paste here in your User talk page? Do I have to Watch this page? How are these "message" alerts being activated? Ty --[[User:SvenAERTS|SvenAERTS]] 11:20, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
===Incarnation of the Son of God===


== Counter does not work ==
The Son of God, who was always with the Father before all creation, took upon himself flesh, that is, become a human being, taking the flesh of manhood from his mother Mary but without her being impregnated by any man. He was born of Mary through the power of the Holy Spirit. The Gospel of John begins,<blockquote>"In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God... and the Word become flesh and dwelt among us"</blockquote>. There are two understandings of this. Though both hold that the Son of God, Divinity Himself, became a man, they understand differently the beginning of the Gospel of John.
Since Saturday 8/1/09 the counter does not work.
Now it is not possible to see how many users has been accessed the pages. I’m not sure but I think all pages have the same problem --[[User:Papillon|Papillon]] 10:43, 3 August 2009 (UTC)


== Your OLPC Map on Google Maps, how do we collaborate in it? ==
The first understanding sees in the Son of God being the Word ("logos" in Greek) that He is the communication of the Father and thus in some sense the purpose of His coming was to mediate the knowledge of God to man among whom He would dwell and be one with them. But as mediator He is in no way inferior to the God He communicates because He Himself is God. The Trinity is emphasized though by implication (the word "Trinity" is of later usage to describe the phenomenon as presented by the New Testament). This understanding rests upon the use of "logos" in Philo and elsewhere meaning "reason", "word", "rationale"
I wanted to but couldn't figure out how to add the location of [http://www.camnet.com.kh/cambodiaschools/schools_map/school_3.htm The Elaine and Nicholas Negroponte School]
Location of School
Province:Preah Vihear
District:Rôvieng
Commune:Rôssmei
Village:Trâpeang
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Cambodia
My father is visiting my wife's (she's an adopted Cambodian living in Brussels Belgium) Parents. My father created www.lzg.be - Teachers without Frontiers and I'm on the pay-roll of http://www.olpceu.org/content/aboutus/aboutus_staff.html] - http://www.olpco2e.org --[[User:SvenAERTS|SvenAERTS]] 09:45, 3 April 2009 (UTC)


== broken link ==
The second interpretation, while in no way negating His coming to be the communication of the Father to man necessitating the incarnation and explicating the Trinity, rather says that we need to look not to Philo and the "logos" philosophy but to the Aramaic Jewish thought of the time. Doing so, we can see that the Gospel of John intends to rip away a veil, and in doing so, will show us that it was God Himself and no mediator, that leaped down to take the form of a human being, and that this is to be spoken of boldly.
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== Content meeting request ==
Hi SJ - Wanted to check in and see if some of us could meet with you for additional questions about wikislices. For example, who builds the slices? Also, who insures the content is accurate and appropriate? How do those slices get deployed on the XO machines? Do teachers have a way to request or build a wikislice themselves (would he or she just request it on the wikipedia wikislices project page?) Thanks! [[User:Annegentle|annegentle]] 13:54, 11 April 2008 (EDT)
: Right now wikislices are determined by the editors of the relevant page; and they pull the latest content from the wiki in question. Future features include identifying specific revisions of pages, having a 'reviewed' flag for each article+revision, and contribution to a wikislice from an XO (say, by posting a set of words + a topic to a requests-for-wikislice page). [[user:ZdenekBroz|Zdenek]] is a good person to talk to about how that might work. We're having a wikislice related discussion tomorrow aft EST, if you're around. --[[User:Sj|Sj]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Sj|<font style="color:#f70; font-size:70%">talk</font>]] 22:58, 11 April 2008 (EDT)
Thanks for the info and pointer to [[user:ZdenekBroz|Zdenek]], very useful, especially the bundles of xol files, good to know and peruse. Michael Priestly and a few others at IBM wanted on the call but I probably can't get everyone notified by tomorrow, but I'm hoping Monday would work. [[user:Cjl|Cjl]] is also interested so please do send call info for tomorrow's call, and also, please check availability on Monday (sorry for repeat requests but the interest is high). Thanks! [[User:Annegentle|annegentle]] 23:09, 11 April 2008 (EDT)


== ALC request ==
Here is how this second understanding is developed:
Old account was Aclaver (not Aculver as you listed). I created a new account Alc to match your request that the TeamWiki user id match the RT and Wiki user ID.


== Kids encyclopedia ==
The Hebrew text is very clear in visualizing the God of Israel in physical terms, even if meant to be understood metaphorically. But the Aramaic Jewish translations of the Hebrew Scriptures will not allow it to be so presented, but will rather speak around it (paraphrase) or use an intermediary word between the physical description and God. In [[Genesis]] 32, [[Jacob]] is wrestling with "a man" but after the bout, Jacob says, in the original Hebrew text, "I have seen God face to face and my life has been saved". In the Aramaic translation, however, Jacob is made to say, " I have seen the ''angel of God'' face to face and my life has been saved". At times, the intermediary word is the word "Word" - in Aramaic, Memra (the root is Aleph, Mem, Resh as in the Hebrew word 'Omer). Whereas the Hebrew text (Gen. 3:8) has it, "They ([[Adam]] and [[Eve]]) heard the sound of the LORD God walking about in the garden", the Aramaic has it, "they heard the sound of ''the Memra'' of the LORD God walking about in the garden" Apparently, walking about in the garden conjured up too much of rustling of leaves and bushes to take figuratively, and so it was the "Memra" that was heard and not the LORD God. This is the pattern in other places in Genesis. Prof. David Flusser of the Hebrew University notes that it is to this mindset that we owe our understanding of John 1:1 and not to Philo and the Alexandrian "logos" philosophy. "In the beginning was the Word (Memra) and the Word (Memra) was with God.. and the Word (Memra) was God. John 1:1 is meant to rip away the distinction between God and the Memra, so assiduously held to by contemporary Judaism, and so declare that they, the Memra and God, are in reality one, ...and this One has, indeed, come down and has become flesh of our flesh and bone of our bone. John, in his epistle would later say in wonderment, " Whom we have handled, we have touched and held Him."


Dear Samuel,
ARAB


Thanks for taking the time to send me a comment on my blog. Im available most days of the week, as I currently am working for myself. Im based in Swansea in the UK. So phoning maybe rather on the expensive. However I would be happy to talk over skype. If you are willing to suggest a time I will be happy to chat. Preferably I would prefer to be in bed by 3am here.
=== At Twelve Years Old ===
The account of Jesus' parents finding him in the temple impressing the "teachers" with his knowledge of the [[Old Testament|scripture]] is the only detailed event between Jesus' infancy and adult life that is known.
{{cquote|'''Luke 2:41–51'''<br />Now His parents went to Jerusalem every year at the Feast of the Passover. And when He became twelve, they went up there according to the custom of the Feast; and as they were returning, after spending the full number of days, the boy Jesus stayed behind in Jerusalem. But His parents were unaware of it, but supposed Him to be in the caravan, and went a day’s journey; and they began looking for Him among their relatives and acquaintances. When they did not find Him, they returned to Jerusalem looking for Him. Then, after three days they found Him in the temple, sitting in the midst of the teachers, both listening to them and asking them questions. And all who heard Him were amazed at His understanding and His answers. When they saw Him, they were astonished; and His mother said to Him, “Son, why have You treated us this way? Behold, Your father and I have been anxiously looking for You.” And He said to them, “Why is it that you were looking for Me? Did you not know that I had to be in My Father’s house?” But they did not understand the statement which He had made to them. And He went down with them and came to Nazareth, and He continued in subjection to them; and His mother treasured all these things in her heart.}}


So if you could give me an email back at jonhurlock/at/gmail /.com or add me on skype using jon_hurlock (yes theres and underscore in there, so please dont remove that, just remove slashes from the gmail account.).
At this early age of twelve years old, there is clearly shown an inner positional or relational commitment of Jesus. Nor is there any indication that this had not been present prior to His twelfth year. His deepest belonging, that against which all other belongings were to be judged, confirmed, rejected, etc. was to the Father, the Father's House, the Father's concerns. This commitment would reverberate at later times, severing ultimate claims on Him of his closest - mother, brothers, sisters, etc. In the presence of these and to their hearing, He would ask, "Who are my mother, and brothers, and sisters? He that does the will of my Father in Heaven is ..." This, in His own life, was the moral authority to demand the same of all others, "You cannot serve two masters..." The memory of what had happened in the Temple when He was twelve, pondering it in her heart, would stand Mary in good stead, when she would see her son hanging on the cross. She also would be found with the disciples in the upper room, praying, and waiting for the coming of the Spirit which He had promised.


Kind regards,
====From Heaven's View====
But seen from heaven, a spark had entered into the Temple's precincts, and around that the time, there was to evolve the extra-biblical ceremony and practice of Judaism, which would try to make sense of the need to be anchored into the ancient tradition of God, with the need to make new for every generation the relevance of it for each Jewish youth. And so developed the Bar Mitzvah, the "Son of the Law" ceremony and concept. At the age of 13, a Jewish boy, so it developed, would read or sing out in the synagogue, the Shabbat of his birthday, the prophetic portion (the Haftorah) for that Sabbath assigned to the Torah portion (from the 5 books of Moses, read consecutively), raining down upon him from the Women's Section (Ezrat Nashim) - the Help of Women) above or to the side, hard sweet candy signifying the hope of sweetness set before him. For at that time, the Jewish boy becomes a Jewish man, taking upon himself, the obligations for fulfilling the Law of Moses, and is no longer absolved from this responsibility by the mediation of his father's fulfillment of the Law of Moses for him.


Jon Hurlock
At this time, seen from Heaven, a spark entered in, another way, sometimes seen in other young boys and girls, but in a dim way, an intense concentration on the Father above all things and people, looking and judging all surrounding him from the viewpoint of Him flooding the soul, listening, speaking, believing.
So Jesus reasoned with the rabbis, never being encompassed by them, in the house of His Father. Was it told to us showing what He was and what we could be, or at least, learn to follow in His steps, or was it shown to us to allow us to view another step in His being made perfect, growing in favor with God and Man, totally consumed with the doing of His Father's will, and thus, "being made perfect", to take our place upon the Cross, for our sakes and for our salvation?


== Google SoC mentor for E-mail activity ==
=== Ministry ===
The individual who wrote the Email_Activity wiki page asked me whether or not I would be interested in becoming a SoC mentor. I created a small page about me at PhilipVanHoof. I'm the author of the Tinymail framework, frequent GNOME contributor and foundation member. I'm on the team of software developers who developed the Modest E-mail client by Nokia, which uses the Tinymail framework. I also wrote TMut (a minimalistic E-mail client that uses Tinymail). Tinymail is a library/framework for building mobile E-mail clients (http://tinymail.org).
==== Baptism ====
[[Image:Jesus' Baptism.jpg|thumb|right|150px|Jesus' Baptism]]
The [[gospel of Mark]] begins with the [[baptism]] of Jesus by [[John the Baptist]], which appears to be the beginning of Jesus' public ministry. Jesus came to the [[Jordan River|River Jordan]], where John was preaching and baptizing people in the crowd. After Jesus had been baptized, and had risen up out of the water, Mark states Jesus 'saw the heavens torn apart and the Holy Spirit descending like a dove on him. And a voice came from [[heaven]], 'You are my Son, the Beloved; with you I am well pleased' (Mark 1:10–11). Luke adds the chronological anchor that John the Baptist had begun preaching in the fifteenth year of [[Tiberius]] Caesar, approximately in 28 AD (Luke 3:1) and that Jesus was thirty years old when he was baptized (Luke 3:23).


My E-mail is spam@pvanhoof.be, my GMail (which I don't use) is philip.vanhoof@gmail.com
'''The meaning of Baptism for Jesus:'''


== Hola! ==
Jesus insisted over the protests of John that He be baptized at the hands of John. John's protests are natural enough as John's baptism was for those who were sinners, and implied in baptism was the understanding that the baptizer was somehow greater than the one baptized. John believed that he needed to be baptized by Jesus and not the other way around. But Jesus' understanding of His being baptized was two-fold:"Baptism" meant suffering unto death, and it implied that His impending mission was to be in behalf and in place of the real sinners, the humanity for whom He would die. Jesus would later use "baptism" in the first sense when he said to disciples, "Can you be baptized with the baptism which I will undergo?" The Spirit coming down on the Son in the form of a Dove (Yonah = "Jonah" in Hebrew), and the voice of the Father, "This is My Beloved Son" was the Divine empowerment, and authorization for Jesus' mission to come entailing His sacrificial death, three days, not in the belly of the fish, but in the bowels of the earth, and after that, resurrection. As Baptism for Jesus meant, looking forward, His joining sinful humanity to the point of bearing their sins to the death of the cross, so the later New Testament understands, looking backward, that sinners believing in Jesus are also to join Him in His death through the waters of baptism "in the Name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit" - according to the command of the Risen Christ. See [[Christianity]] for Jesus' self consciousness.


Hi! As usual you're monitoring [[Special:Recentchanges|recent changes]]! :) Great!
==== Temptation ====
After this baptism, according to Matthew, Jesus was brought into the desert by God where he fasted for forty days nights. During this period, the [[Satan]] appeared before him and [[Three Temptations of Christ|tried three times]] to tempted Jesus into demonstrating his supernatural powers as a proof of his divine status; each temptation was refused by Jesus, with a scriptural quote from the Book of [[Deuteronomy]].


Yes, I'm coming back to life and noticed Lauren's notice in my talk page so I decided to answer that one asap, and then try to fully resurrect. I'll keep you posted (was writing en email to re-introduce myself). [[User:Xavi|Xavi]] 21:19, 14 January 2008 (EST)
Jesus then began to preach. [[Gospel of John|John]] describes three different [[passover]] feasts that Jesus attended, thus implying that his ministry lasted three years.


== Video - Human Computation ==
'''The reason behind the Temptation:'''


SJ,
The Temptation occurred just as told in the Gospels. But behind the happening, another message lies revealing the identity of Jesus to a people who would understand it. At the foothill of Mt. Hermon, in between the servile Roman infatuated people of Tiberius to the south west of the Sea of Galilee, and the rabidly nationalistic, anti- Roman Zealots of Gamla to the north east, Jesus asked His disciples who He was. The Messiah, the Son of the Living God, was the answer. And Jesus explained who He was and why he had come in terms that fit their experience - not to rule and throw out the Romans, nor to uphold their ways and laws but rather something on a different plane all together - to give His life settling it on the cross.
happen to glance through one of your older versions of your User page. Cool video about human computation.
Quite intertaining... hmmmm... interesting.. Thanks for sharing, --[[User:IainDavidson|IainD]] 04:46, 15 January 2008 (EST)


To a later believing people, those who were not Jewish, who He was would be understood in terms fitting to who they were - He had come the Second Adam, to give His life and to provide new life to those who were not Jewish, but also including the Jews, to all the lost and wandering children of Adam.


==Violent Games in the Activities?==
In the Temptation, it is the those who knew the Old Testament, the physical children of Abraham primarily, who could see in the long range, and not primarily dictated to by the political passions of the moment, and who could wonder who they were and where they had gone wrong, and wonder also who would be the One to take them out. It is they, Israel, who had been in the wilderness for 40 years, and they that had succumbed to the temptations of selling out for food and drink, though they were a "Son" whom God with a strong arm and outstretched hand had taken out of the bondage of Egypt, they had turned traitor, driven by their own lust and pride. And here now, in Jesus, was One who resisted the devil in the wilderness, also "for forty", preferring the will of God as His food rather than all the world could offer, Who was He? He was Israel! The only true one left, the faithful remnant spoken of by the prophet Isaiah, the servant true to the end. As the letter to the Hebrews saw, "Though He were a Son yet learned He obedience by the things He suffered, and being made perfect, He become the author of Eternal life...". This is the understanding of the Gospel of Matthew, in interpreting a passage from Hosea which was manifestly speaking of Israel the people and applying it to Jesus who also came out of Egypt with His parents at the death of Herod, " Out of Egypt have I called my Son". Who was Jesus? He was Israel who had ''not'' failed come to redeem Israel who had, and also out of all the peoples of the world.


Hi SJ,
==== Disciples and Apostles ====
[[Image:Jesus5.jpg‎|thumb|left|100px|Jesus Christ <small>(Artist's impression)</small>]]
The larger part of this was directed towards his closest followers, the [[apostles]], although all of his followers were considered [[disciples of Jesus|disciples]]. At the highest point of his ministry, Jesus attracted disciples and audiences numbering in the thousands; in particular in the area of Galilee. Many of Jesus' most well-known teachings were given during the [[Sermon on the Mount]], such as the [[Beatitudes]] and the [[Lord's Prayer]]. Jesus often used parables in his rhetorical technique, such as the [[Parable of the Good Samaritan]] and [[the parable of the sheep and the goats|the Parable of the Sheep and the Goats]]; these teachings encouraged unconditional self-sacrificing [[Shema|love for God]] and [[Agape|for all people]]. During these sermons, he also discussed service and humility, forgiveness of sins, how faith should be applied, the [[Golden Rule]], and the necessity of following the spirit of the law as well as its wording.


What's your opinion on this issue?
'''Their choosing and their purpose:''' Among the many who came to Jesus, from afar and from the surrounding villages of the north shore of the Sea of Galilee, were those moved by his insight into the nature of life, or touched deeply by His seemingly knowing them from the inside, by His intimacy with the God and Father they had only known "about", or impressed by the miracles done before their very eyes, and many, by His deep compassion for the people, so evident in all that He did. Jesus would sprinkle His words upon them as seed in a path, some to take root, and some to be blown away by the wind. But to those who heard and wanted more, they would get that more, receiving explanation, and move closer to His association. Those that would not, would receive only that which was commensurate to not wanting - more parables, silence. Never the revealing of the "Secrets of the Kingdom". Yet, there was no prohibition and no limit for getting closer to Jesus. Those that did, became His "learners" - the disciples, understanding the meanings of His word by the demonstration of His life and putting them into practice. Among these were another group, some that had been with Him from early on, possibly some from the time of His baptism at the hands of John. These He would hold in His mind for an additional and different reason.
http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2008-January/009849.html


--[[User:Chihyu|Chihyu]] 12:36, 17 January 2008 (EST)
Then one night, he ascended a hill praying about them, and came down knowing who they were to be. 12 in number, chosen not because of their virtue, or even what He would do in them in the future, but rather solely chosen by His Father to be deputized, delegated, or commissioned by Jesus to be sent out for a mission. He gave them the name "Shaliach" (meaning all that), which was translated into Greek as "apostolos" and so our Apostles.


== table test ==
The mission of the Apostles (see "Example 5." of [[New Testament understanding through the Jewish perspective]]) was to do all that they saw Jesus was doing, healing the sick, raising the dead, and with all this, to tell about the fast coming Kingdom of Heaven, the rule of His Father, and urge people to repent and get ready for it. He gave them His power and authority to do all this. But it was to be 12 in number, not more and not less, that number surviving even the suicide of one of them, Judas from the village of Kyriot, requiring an "election" to bring back the number from 11 to 12. And that was because the special additional reason for their appointment was to sit on the 12 thrones of the 12 tribes of Israel (the sons of Jacob) and lead them by whatever it takes - that is the meaning of the biblical term "Judge" (Shofet)*. For the community of the "little ones"., was to be, in some sense, an Israel within Israel, or a new Israel, a sort of beachhead for the onslaught of the Kingdom of God in its invasion (or sometimes, infiltration into) into and onto the Kingdom of the unjust occupier and enemy of all Goodness, the Devil, to overthrow him and all his works. This truer and newer Israel, He called His "Called Out ones" (Eklessia=Church) against whose onslaught the Fortified city of Hell with its defensive bars to its massive gates, would not prevail. Many captives would be released. The Church, then, was the community counterpart to what was known as the "Synagogue" (Greek), meaning "gathered together ones" (Beit Knesset - house of the gathering, Hebrew). It was the Synagogue of Jesus the King and Messiah, and aligned with and the focal point of the Prophetically promised and hoped-for Kingdom of God and the rule of Heaven on Earth. And the disciples and apostles of Jesus all had their place in the unfolding of it all.


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see [[datasheets]].
==== Social Outcasts ====
[[File:Cordero El Redentor y la mujer adultera.jpg|thumb|300px|left|El Redentor y la mujer adultera by [[Juan Cordero]].]]
Jesus also often conversed with social outcasts, such as the publican ([[Rome|Roman]] tax collectors who were unpopular for their practice of extorting money).


== I'm just kicking myself... ==
Jesus showed no partiality toward outcasts, and neither did He do so to those who were in society. But being an outcast was a category beyond the reach of all others which were in society. Jesus was not for the male over against the female, the Jew over against the non Jew, townsman over against the man of the field. He was impartial and penetrating in His love for all. But all of these had a certain standing in Society, they were part of it, though all being in it, could vie for more of it as their share. But all were united, and could work in concert against what they were not - the outcast. The love of Jesus and the love of His Father through Him, could not rest lightly on any one of them, until it would reach and rest on the one beyond the fringes, the outer edges, and down below - the outcast. This demonstrated in the life of Jesus what the Cross would later show and the Apostles preach - all were outcast to the Holiness of God, and all could be loved by Him and, indeed, were.


for not paying closer attention and getting an OLPC XO during the GIGO... I like what you all have done with this wiki, it has some neat touches! ++[[User:Lar|Lar]]: [[User_talk:Lar|t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Lar|c]] 22:31, 18 January 2008 (EST)
==== Miracles ====
:PS, I just added added <code><nowiki>[[OLPC:]]</nowiki></code> as http://wiki.laptop.org/go/$1 to [[meta:Interwiki map]] (that is, to http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Interwiki_map )... if that's not what you all had in mind please pop by the talk page. It looks like you're not using the interwiki map here though??? ++[[User:Lar|Lar]]: [[User_talk:Lar|t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Lar|c]] 22:37, 18 January 2008 (EST)
Throughout his ministry, Jesus performed many miracles including healing the sick and possessed, feeding 5000, and even raising from the dead.
: Hello there, and welcome :-) not yet! see [[OLPC:Wiki]] and its talk page. --[[User:Sj|Sj]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Sj|<font color="fc9" style="font-size:70%">leave me a message</font>]]


== a request ==
Miracles were an intrusion of the ordinary, but the ordinary of a different and far-superior Kingdom, into the sordid and sin sick kingdoms of this world. They showed what life was really like there in that Kingdom which was coming and how weak, unstable, subject and cringing were the powers of this corrupted world, "bent" under the heel of God. That a widow should have her dead son restored to her alive, that outcasts such as lepers should be restored to the community, and as a result of their being healed, that darkness should give way to light and sight, that a woman deserving stoning find solace and forgiveness, all of these are the way things are and ought to be in the Kingdom of God because of the way He is. They were, at one and the same time, signs of the Kingdom which was coming and great works of compassion done here below which will never by surpassed or forgotten. And Jesus the Messiah was bringing them in!


[[Contact OLPC]] page is protected with '''cascading''' option, so its translations bar cannot be modified now. Would you please change it?
Note: See Example 5 of [[New Testament understanding through the Jewish perspective]] for the assault and infiltration of God's Kingdom on and into the Kingdom of Satan.
-- [[User:LeeSI|LeeSI]] 00:04, 19 January 2008 (EST)
: done. --[[User:Sj|Sj]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Sj|<font color="fc9" style="font-size:70%">leave me a message</font>]]


== de nada? ==
==== His Preaching was Offensive to the Established Authority ====
Just curious - which front page links? I've been in sweep mode -- cleaning my home for sale and trying to make the wiki, um, moderately readable ergo informative [[User:Katie|<strike>Katie</strike>Style Nazi]] 11:49, 21 January 2008 (EST)
As He preached, Jesus ran afoul of the [[Sanhedrin]], the recognized Jewish religious authorities, who were allowed to have considerable religious, political and monetary influence under Roman rule. Jesus chastised them, accusing them of making laws for the people to follow that were the laws of men, not God. The Sanhedrin tried to set traps for Jesus by asking Him questions to either discredit Him with the people or get Him in trouble with the Roman authorities, but all of their efforts failed and they gave up. They lacked the means to stop Jesus until [[Judas Iscariot]] came to them and offered to betray Jesus for 30 pieces of silver. He would tell them where Jesus would be that night so they could seize Him.


== mediawiki extensions? ==


Moved to ... [[OLPC_talk:Wiki]]
Notable among Jewish established authorities were the Pharisees, the Saduccees, and the Herodians.


I and others are gearing up a wiki welcome team (and supporting docs/pages). Can we get the [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Newuserlog Newuserlog] extension installed to more easily welcome newbies? See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Log/Newusers for an example usage you've probably looked at thousands of times over. ;) [[User:Mchua|Mchua]] 14:57, 25 January 2008 (EST)
The Pharisees, believing that at the time God had given to Moses the "written Torah" (Torah shebikhtav), He had also given to Moses an "Oral Torah" (Torah shebe'al peh) which would apply the written Torah to all situations and times, and that that Oral Torah had been handed down from generation to generation, finally, it itself written down, making, in the days of Jesus, the beginning of the Talmud. Thus it was necessary to be able to "fill in the rabbis" from whom the teaching came (see [[Judaism]]) - "Rabbi Tarfon says in the name of Rabbi..." But this man Jesus, goes straight to Moses, and straight to Heaven! ''"You have heard it said...but I say unto you..."'' and himself speaks as the ''Mouth of God!''
: Also see [[Wiki getting started]], which I think you'll appreciate. [[User:Mchua|Mchua]] 15:43, 25 January 2008 (EST)


== New info file spec ==
The Saduccees, not believing in an Oral Torah, and believing much of the written Torah to be irrelevant and impractical in the modern times that they lived, believed that the "blanks" and how the Torah was to be applied in these days, must be decided by the Kingdoms of the World, namely, Roman law and requirement. But this man Jesus speaks of another Kingdom and another King, and not of Rome!
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== 1pm sunday ==
The Herodians saw clearly who their enemy was and who their Savior was and wherein their safety lie - Herod the King of the Jews and all the aura and the might that he possessed. And their enemy was anyone who would claim, or live in the claim of others, that it was he that was the King of the Jews and not Herod (and the royalty after Herod) - such as was doing the man Jesus of Nazareth


Just confirming to check if you get my message regarding 1pm conference call on Sunday 27th. thanks. --[[User:Arjs|Arjs]] 22:30, 26 January 2008 (EST)
Note: Judaism does not have a "unified" theory of Inspiration or practical authority of Scripture. That is, The most authoritative, and capable of being regulatory to life as "law" is the five books of Moses. After that, the Prophets. And after that, the "Writings." The Scripture of the Saduccees was just the Five books of Moses, and since there is little if anything about the resurrection from the dead and the after life in the the Five Books of Moses, they believed in neither. The Pharisees, believing in the on-going of revelation extending, though with lesser authority, to the Prophets (such as Daniel) and the Writings, believed in both.
: yes, cheers. --[[User:Sj|Sj]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Sj|<font color="fc9" style="font-size:70%">leave me a message</font>]]


===The Turning Point===


== Teamwiki requests ==
It was at the city built in honor of Herod's son Phillip, Ceasarea Philippi, dedicated to the worship of Pan at the subterraenean breakout of the spring which was tributary to the Jordon River, the Ban(Pan)ias, that Jesus asked His disciples, "Who do men say that I am?, Simon finally answered, You are the [[Messiah]], the Son of the Living God. Jesus responded that flesh and blood had not revealed this fact but His Father had. Then Jesus gave him his new name Peter, meaning rock, and told him that he and the Church to be built on the rock would be thrown against the very gates of Hades itself, gates which would be unable to withstand the onslaught, setting Hell's captives free. (See Example 5. of [[New Testament understanding through the Jewish perspective]]). From that place of confession, and from the time of Peter's confession itself, Jesus began to refine to His disciples, excluding all doubt and ambiguity from their minds as to the purpose of His coming, what it was all about. He the Messiah had come to die. They were to go up to Jerusalem, and there he would be rejected and denounced by the priests and elders, handed over to the Gentiles, and be put to death. And so began the 3 days journey from Caesarea Philippi, then along the eastern shore of the Sea of Galillee, along the Jordon river valley, through Jericho, and then the ascent to Jerusalem, Jesus telling his followers repeatedly the same message of His rejection and death, and then, if they could take it in, in such a way as not to suppress from their consciousness the main message He needed to instill into their acceptance, that of his humiliation and death, His subsequent resurrection form the dead. As the Gospel of Mark would record the words of the Lord, "For the Son of Man has not come to be served, but to serve, and to give His life for the ransom of many"
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=== Last Days of Jesus' Life ===
==== Lord's Supper ====
'''God and man at table are sat down:'''
[[Image:The Last Supper WM.jpg|right|300px]]
It happened before - "Moses went up with Aaron, Nadab and Abihu. and seventy elders of Israel. They saw the God of Israel...they gazed on God. They ate and they drank." Exodus 24: 9-11


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It would happen after - "Now while He was with them at table, He took the bread and said the blessing, then He broke it and handed it to them. And their eyes were opened and recognized Him. But He had vanished from their sight. Then they said to each other, Did not our hearts burn within us as He talked to us on the road, and explained the Scriptures to us?" Luke 24:30-32


== Health content xls files ==
Eating before the Lord or with the Lord, would be used as the highest form of friendship - Behold, I stand at the door and knock. If any one hears My voice and opens the door I will come in to him and share my meal with him, side by side.". Revelation 3:20-21 (NIV)


With regard to the recently added support in wiki for viewing excel (xls) files created in google spreadsheet to be viewed as simple html tables within wiki. It'd be great if we could copy paste the contents of the various xls files there and use the wiki plugin to easily view them. See content section on [[Health|health]]--[[User:Arjs|Arjs]] 01:47, 29 January 2008 (EST)
At the [[Passover Seder]], the last meal the Lord would eat with His followers, His presence so permeated the atmosphere, and what He said and did at that special time, and especially they having received His command to do just what He was doing before them at this time, whenever they would meet together, the Apostles of the Lord and the Gospels after them could not speak of bountiful and miraculous times of the Lord's gracious giving of food feeding the multitudes, without mentioning that which otherwise would not have been mentioned - ''He took the bread, looked up to heaven blessing the bread, He broke the bread, and He gave it to them.'' That is what the Lord did before them, and that is what He commanded them to do after Him, and thus provided for them, and for the Church after them, the one of two universal services - the [[Lord's Supper]], or [[Eucharist]], or [[Holy Communion]].


== GM clarification? ==
But in addition, He gave His own particular understanding to the unleavened bread of the Passover and ceremonial cup of wine, the 3rd and "Thanksgiving cup" of wine drunk immediately after the Passover meal was eaten. In slightly varying words, the Gospels and the Church after would perpetuate that understanding by repeating what the Lord Himself said at that Last Supper - "This is My Body which is given for you... This is My blood, the blood of the New Covenant which is shed for you, and for the many, for the forgiveness of sins. Do this as my own Remembrance". And so He signified to His followers that His life would be given in sacrifice for them and for their benefit. How this benefit would be effected, would be explained by Jesus by other sayings, "Do not think that I have come in order to be served. I have not come to be served but rather to serve, and to give my life as a ransom for many."


After our conversation on the nature of GM today, the [http://laptopfoundation.org/en/participate/givemany.shtml GM section of the laptopfoundation.org website] is not very explanatory according to my [[OLPC:Webpage_corrections_needed#laptopfoundation.org current understanding]], and is something Walter or someone else with editing privs may want to fix. [[User:Mchua|Mchua]] 00:32, 30 January 2008 (EST)
But His presence remained with them at the continual celebration of this new Christian [[Passover]] of the Communion. Though He had vanished from their eyes as He would return to the Father, yet through the Spirit which He had promised to be in His stead, He was there with them to remain- "Where two or three are gathered together in My name, there am I!"..." Even so, Come Lord Jesus!"


== Community project review process ==
Note 1: The word Maranatha, comes from the Greek word which is translating the Aramaic which comes in two forms according to the accent given. Marana tha - "O our Lord, come!", and Maran atha - "Our Lord has come". This appears in the earliest liturgies of the Eucharist, and was used either as an invocation for the Lord to come, a sort of invite, or as an exclamation that the Lord has indeed come, just as He said He would. In either case, it was a witness to the belief that the Lord was indeed with them when they participated in the Remembrance which He had commanded.


My notes from our talk over IRC today are on teamwiki at User:Mchua/Developers_program. Let me know if I'm still misunderstanding what you proposed. (I'm not wholly sure I agree with it yet, but I don't think I fully understand it yet - see the "cons" section of the community proposal - and want to make sure I "get it" before I voice an opinion.) [[User:Mchua|Mchua]] 00:32, 30 January 2008 (EST)
Note 2; What the Lord said, "This is my body... This is my blood...Do this!" (the "Words of Institution", His instituting the Holy Communion until His coming again), is absent in the Gospel of John when recounting the last time of the Lord with His disciples. This is not an oversight, as the Gospel of John, from all contextual indications, has already spoken of the matter in the 6th chapter.


== University programs ==
==== Garden of Gethsemane ====
[[Image:Jesus in Gethsemane.jpg|thumb|right|150px|Jesus in Gethsamane]]
Jesus knew that His time was short and that He was about to be betrayed into the hands of sinners. He had His last supper with his disciples and went with them to the [[Garden of Gethsemane]] and prayed vehemently knowing what was about to come.


Yeah, the page needs updating and more resources, as do grassroots groups. [[University program]] - or rather, [[Talk:University program]] - has some notes from today's conversations (not just with you, with other support-gangers and Arjun too) that need to be cleaned up and moved into mainpage eventually. [[User:Mchua|Mchua]] 00:32, 30 January 2008 (EST)
Decision, certainty, from a distance is clearer and easier than when the time approaches for decision's implementation. That is because the here and now, leaves no room for imagining a rescue from all that is around us and in us. Leaving us confused or uncertain, needing assurance, or a once again revelation, of what it was that brought us to decision in the first place. John knowing from the beginning that his cousin Jesus was the promised Messiah, when years later, found himself in prison, and things not going the way he had expected, understood or hoped, required assurance that Jesus was really the One he had thought Him to be. Jesus responded forcefully and completely to that so human request - Tell John what you see, the dead are raised, the sick healed, and the poor are being told of the good news of the Kingdom of God. And it was enough.
Jesus, knowing why He had come, and that He was to mount the cross, to bear the sins of the world, knowing also what that must mean, He who had never "known" sin, now to know it in a way, that man could never know, man who all the time was in it, inured to it, accustomed to it, Jesus prayed. There was a movement in His prayer, taking on anew, the certainty and decision of old, feeling the enormity of it at close hand, and in the garden, he prayed three times, each time agonizing* dripping great drops of sweat, each time making movement in the direction from ''If there be another way, The Father knows and will show, but He would do whatever the Father wills'', towards ''being the Father's will, He would do it. There really is no other way''. And then it was done, He had settled it within Him anew, having prayed, and having received the deep silent Amen of the Father within His soul. It was enough. He was ready.


== dev program community implementation moved to public ==
*note: "Agonize" of the text is from the Greek word "to struggle".


[[Talk:Developers_program#Community_driven_implementation_proposal|here]]. [[User:Mchua|Mchua]] 14:09, 30 January 2008 (EST)
==== Tried before Jewish Authorities ====
Jesus was betrayed by Judas into the hands of the Jewish religious authorities who took Him away and secretly put Him on trial during the night, trying to find justification for their desire to have Him killed. Finally, they convicted Him of blasphemy. For the location of the Jewish trial, see Example 6 of [[New Testament understanding through the Jewish perspective]]


== re: repair center stuff on teamwiki ==
==== Tried before Roman Authorities ====
As they did not have the authority to put a man to death, they took him to [[Pontius Pilate]], the Roman governor of Palestine, with their charges and demanded his execution. Pilate avoided the issue by sending him to [[Herod Antipas|King Herod]] since Jesus was a Galilean, but Herod sent him back to Pilate. Pilate at first tried to release Jesus with a flogging, and then gave the crowd a choice to either spare Jesus or a criminal called [[Barabbas]] as part of the passover tradition. The crowd chose to free Barabbas [Aramaic: "Son of a (the) Father") and Pilate washed his hands to signify that he bore no responsibility for Jesus' death before ultimately condemning Him to [[crucifixion]].<ref>Matthew 27: 15-44</ref>


I'm hesitant to push all of that to public wiki, since Adam said he's like to work with me and Kim to port it (there's some stuff not ready to go public, though I don't know what that stuff is - I've asked). If Adam/Kim says ok, I would ''love'' to push it public. (Heck, I've been trying to do that for at least 2 weeks.) Can you poke them about this since you're physically adjacent? [[User:Mchua|Mchua]] 14:12, 30 January 2008 (EST)
==== Scourging ====
The penalty of crucifixion was always preceded by scourging (flogging) with the Roman ''flagellum''. a short ox-hide whip knotted with pieces of zinc, lead, and bone which removed swaths of the victims' skin with every stroke. Although the Bible mentions the scourging of Jesus only very briefly, it must have been particularly brutal from the relatively short amount of time Jesus lingered on the cross after the punishment. Victims who suffered less blood loss from the scourging were known to remain alive on the cross for two or three days.


== Music ==
The scourging and physical affliction of Jesus, though not overtly alluded to, may have a significance for benefit to come. There was a prophecy of the Suffering Servant to come:


I cannot but agree. My duties? Maintain the music wiki page and find people interested in helping us with new music content? [[User:Aferti|Andriani]] 2:05, 31 January 2008 (EST)
"Yet He Himself bore our sicknesses,<br />
and He carried our pains;<br />
but we in turn regarded Him stricken,<br />
struck down by God, and afflicted." Isaiah 53:4


== peer-review for Health ==
The Gospel of Matthew would see in this prophesy a foretelling of the various healings and deliverances that Jesus gave to the people, "so that what was spoken through the prophet [[Isaiah]] might be fulfilled: He Himself took our weaknesses and carried our diseases (Matt. 8:17) If not the scourging itself, then all of the sufferings of the Lord, culminating in His sacrifice on the cross, was the source not only for forgiveness, but also for all the many types of healings and restorations for the people.


How/what might be the first steps for peer review for the health pages ? thanks. ? --[[User:Arjs|Arjs]]
==== Death on a Cross ====
[[Image:David Christ on the Cross.jpg|right|thumb|Christ on the Cross by [[Jacques Louis David]].]]
Jesus died after suffering and giving up his spirit.


== RfA ==
Behind the Cross was the sum total of all the maladies of mankind, that the Old Testament unveiled : Pesh'a - conscious and "high handed" rebellion, for which , under the Old Covenant, there was no forgiveness provided, Khet - an unintended "missing of the mark", as in the deviation from the bull's eye of the bowman, Shigi'a - the mistakes, some causing great harm to others, which come about by plain ignorance, and 'Avon "iniquity" or distortion - the inner twistedness, that causes failure and suffering, seemingly from the very structure of our persons regardless of our intent. These were the sins Godwards as well as towards man, and these are all, Scripture revealed, repugnant to the nature and standard of a Holy God.


[[OLPC:Administrators#Seth_Woodworth_.28isforinsects.29|The OLPC version of an RfA]] I would like to apply for admin access on the wiki. I am frequently getting math-based captchas which are really slowing down my wiki-editing. It has been reported that Admins do not have this problem. Also, I would like to be an admin for the purposes of mass revocation of vandalism. [[User:Sethwoodworth|is for Insects]] 17:18, 4 February 2008 (EST)
On the Cross, in a way which is unfathomable to man, but nonetheless believable, the repugnance fell upon Jesus, the Son of God, and again in a way not fully understandable to us, but believable nonetheless, God was in Christ reconciling the world unto Himself, not considering us the sinners but rather His own dear Son who had no taint upon Himself. A great transaction had taken place by the imposition of Himself of Christ in our place, absorbing, as if He were a blotter, all the reaction of a Holy God upon Himself, in our place, that we might go free. Unfair to Him, Mercy to us. Yet Jesus was not forced to do it. He did it both in His great love for us and in His obedience to the way that the Father had decided. "No one takes my life from me. I have power to take it and I have power to lay it down...I lay down my life for the sheep". Peter would say, "The Just for the unjust, that He might bring us to God." Paul would say, "He was made to be sin, He who did not "know" sin, that we might be made the righteousness of God in Him". That was Friday.


== RE: zine work ==
On Saturday, when all were at Sabbath's rest, Jesus was not. His body dead, He passed in spirit to those that had died before, those in the period of Noah, and proclaimed, as Peter taught, what He had done. On Sunday, the first day of the week, He would rise from the dead.


You mean from the wiki? Not really, most of the cool stuff is in isforinsect's flickr group. Not exactly sure what you mean... '''[[User:Firefoxman|ff]]<font color="darkgreen">[[User talk:Firefoxman|m]]</font>''' 19:33, 5 February 2008 (EST)
The Cross of Christ, and the atonement He accomplished on it, is the very grounds that anyone who will be saved can be saved. The shedding of His blood brings salvation, to anyone who will respond, according to the ability that they have, that is given them. That brings forgiveness and acceptance, even welcome, to the murderer such as Paul, the adulteress such as the "woman taken in adultery", the tax-collecting extortionist, a seeker in the night turned believer, as hopefully Nicodemus proved to be, people that just know that they are sinners without any "grave sin" to specify, and also the "fetus" whose life was cut off in the womb as a "thing", and the severely retarded child banging his head in the institution he finds himself. All, according to the light given them, and repentance and turning to God given to them, will one day know just what was the basis for their salvation - the Cross of Christ. Those who reject, will also one day know the basis by which they could have been saved if they had not rejected - the Cross of Christ


=== Resurrection ===
== OLPC Europe. ==
:''See main article: [[Resurrection of Jesus Christ]]''
On the third day after his death, Jesus [[resurrection of Jesus Christ|rose bodily from the dead]].


Sj, great idea.... new section created.. [[Weekly_zine/0/OLPC_Europe]] have them update with summary of what they are working on.. Thanks for keeping your eyes open to new ideas! :) --[[User:Ixo|ixo]] 03:03, 8 February 2008 (EST)
Jesus' resurrection from the dead was no mere reassembling the molecules of His dead and disintegrating body, but it was a new union of His Spirit and body, in a way that could only be called by the Apostle Paul, in reference to ourselves, when we, in turn, following His pattern, a ''spiritual body''. Having risen from the dead, He was physical enough to eat and drink with His disciples, and we can assume to digest, as well as ingest, and to be touched and felt, having Thomas' hand thrust into His spear riven side, and yet, strangely not held by the physical laws of before, passing through the door to the room where the disciples were assembled, "Peace be upon you!", and to physically ascend, in the sight of all, from a location on the Mount of Olives into the presence of the Father In some way, even the disciples on the Road to Emmaeus, could not recognize Him, perhaps an aspect of the changed body, perhaps the power of the will of Jesus himself blinding them to the fact that It was He, until the breaking of the bread.
Jesus had risen, the stone unrolled, not to let Him out, but to let others in - to have the basis for their testimony, that He is risen indeed!
By the regaining of His life in the resurrection from the dead (Scripture asserts that it was by the power of the Holy Spirit that this took place) Jesus was "certified" to the Church, and to all that would come after, that He was indeed the Son of God, that the verdict of death to Him given by men, was not so much overturned, but used in a far superior way by the Father to accomplish His will for redemption, and has given Him, at the last, ''vindication''.


== Zine - translations and /About page. :) ==
And for mankind, its individuals in the millions through the centuries who had believed in Him, there came the certainty, that death was also not to be their end, that they too will arise with Jesus, that death, the annihilation of all, or a future only to be dreaded, was not to be their end, that the Presence of Jesus who had gone before them, was a welcoming one, that He had found a way, and now they would be with Him forever and ever, and with good hope for the sight of loved ones again. Death had been conquered and fear could be too.


sj,


Added zine/About page, put an area to acknowledge translators..
In recent history, Dr. [[Gary Habermas]] is considered the foremost [[Christian apologetics|Christian apologist]] for defending the [[Resurrection of Jesus Christ|resurrection of Jesus]]. Other notable defenders of the resurrection include: [[William Lane Craig]], [[Ben Witherington]], [[Lee Strobel]], [[Josh McDowell]], [[Edwin M. Yamauchi]], [[N.T. Wright]], and [[Michael Horner]].<ref>
* http://www.leaderu.com/offices/billcraig/menus/historical.html
* http://www.leaderu.com/everystudent/easter/articles/josh2.html
* http://www.leaderu.com/everystudent/easter/articles/yama.html
* http://www.ntwrightpage.com/Wright_Early_Traditions.htm
* http://www.michaelhorner.com/articles/resurrection/index.html</ref> In addition, much has been written defending the resurrection of Christ in the field of [[Christian Legal Apologetics|Christian legal apologetics]].


[[Weekly_zine/About#Translations_by]]
===Appearances of Jesus to His followers===
For forty days after his rising from the dead Jesus made appearances to His followers. These appearances were different from other risings from the dead, both in the Old Testrament and in the New Testament. These others are best understood as resusitations from lifelessness.
That is, the people had really died, and really had been brought to life but there type of life was no different in kind from what it was before their death. A prime examploe in the New Testament was Lazarus. All of them, died a second time, waiting for the Resurrection. The very first to attain to the Resurrection was Jesus Christ, and as the first he came the "first fruits" of us all. The resurrected body of Jesus was both the same and different from what it was prior to His death. It could pass through "solids". It coulo be changed, if this be the right interpretation, in such a way as be unrecognizable. And yet it was no mere vision, unreality, or a non-physical "spiritual" reality. He could eat and drink and be touched and felt. He was real in the ways that we know realness. And we too, according to Paul, will be one with Him in having "spiritual bodies".
"And that He appeared to Peter, and then to the Twelve, after that, He asppeared to 500 of the brothers at the same time, most of whom are still living,though some have fallen asleep.Then He appeared to James, and then to all the apostles, and last of all, he appeared to me..."I Corinthians 15:5-8


Please have translators update the acks, when they do translations so they can get recognized. :)
=== Ascension into Heaven ===
He was lifted up while they looked on, and a cloud took him form their sight. They were still staring into the sky when suddenly two men in white were standing near them and they said, "why are you men from Galilee standing here looking into the sky. Jesus who has been taken up from you into heaven, this same Jesus will come back in the same way as you have seen Him go there." Acts 1:9-11


Thanks for the idea on the /About page, --[[User:Ixo|ixo]] 03:54, 10 February 2008 (EST)
Scripture posits two purposes related to man for the ascension of Jesus: 1. it was to the right hand of the Father (showing favorable disposition of the Father to the Son to hear His requests) from which position Jesus intercedes to the Father on our behalf, and 2. Having ascended to the Father, He received from the Father the Spirit. The Father pours out the Spirit "through the Son" upon the Church. The "first Pentecost"
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=== Return of Jesus from heaven to earth===
== off grid power notes are up ==
I gazed into the visions of the night and I saw coming on the clouds of heaven, One like a son of man. He came to the One of Great Age and was led into His presence. On Him was conferred sovereignty, glory and kingship. And men of all peoples, nations, and languages became His servants. His sovereignty is an eternal sovereignty which shall never pass away. Nor will His empire ever be destroyed. Daniel 7:13-14


[[Off grid power]] should be up to date with the stuff I've pieced together. care to take a gander? [[User:Mchua|Mchua]] 04:21, 10 February 2008 (EST)
The Lord Himself shall descend from heaven with a shout and with the voice of the Archangel and with the Horn of God, and the dead in Christ shall rise first. Then we who are still alive remaining here will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and so will we ever be with the Lord. 1 Thess. 4: 16,17


== Math logo ==
You were converted to God and became servants of the real, living God; and how you are now waiting for Jesus, His Son, whom He raised from the dead, to come from heaven to save us from the retribution which is coming. 1 Thess, 1:9,10


Hi SJ,
==Jesus' Self Consciousness==


Here is an [[:Image:Math_logo1.svg | XO math logo]] (that is perhaps too clever for its own good). &mdash;[[User:Leejc|Joe]] 23:54, 10 February 2008 (EST)
Jesus, conceived of the Holy Spirit, presented a disturbing surprise to his earthly father, Joseph, knowing he had not impregnated his fiancée, Mary. She would ponder the meaning of this miracle all the days Jesus would grow and finally she would behold her son expire on the cross. But Joseph, told by the Lord who his son really was, and how he had come about, and being warned by the Lord to flee the murderous Herod, took his family to Egypt - until the death of Herod made it safe ("Out of Egypt have I called My Son") to return to Israel. The family settled in Nazareth on the elevated rim of the Jezre'el Valley where he grew well and observably no different from the other youth. But when he was about 12 years old, he was taken to the Temple in Jerusalem, and displayed his consciousness that His real Father was God rather than Joseph ("Didn't you know that I must be here about the matters of My Father?".


== how to use a wiki page ==
They returned to Nazereth in Galilee and it wasn't until 28 years later that He began to publicly show His consciousness as to who he was. This was at his baptism at the Jordan River by John, when the voice came, to him, to John, and to the people privileged to be around, "This is my Son, the Beloved, Listen (Shma'a) to Him!" Here and now, against even the desire of John the Baptizer, Jesus, knowing that sin was not in him, chose to identify with sinful mankind in this baptism of John for repentance of sin, knowing that at the end of his time on earth, he would then be giving this sinless life of his on the cross, bearing the sins of the world upon himself.
[[Image:Carpaccio Christus in Emmaus.jpg|thumb|Christus in Emmaus by [[Vittore Carpaccio]]]]
Back, now, in Galilee, he would begin to do works of mercy, miracles of compassion, healings of deliverance, and overthrowing the devastations of Satan upon the people of God's compassion - in short, bringing in the Kingdom of Heaven and of God and supplanting the Kingdom of Darkness. He began to gather around him his followers, simple fishing folk and others, spending most of his time in the area around the north shore of the Kinneret (Sea of Galilee). among the Jews of this Jewish area. He was bringing in the Messianic Kingdom to those who would understand it best, the Jews. But all the time, there was burning within him the knowledge that the blessings of Abraham would be extended, according to the promise, to all the peoples of the earth, the Gentiles, and there would be a new Kingdom, a new nation, transcending both Jews and Gentiles, the Kingdom of the people of God the Heavenly Father. He began his forays then into gentile areas, Phoenecia, the Decapolis, and other locales, and finding faith there such as he had not found "even in Israel".


discovered today that we have a [[How to use a wiki]] page, which may or may not fit into your/FFM's grand scheme of policy-creation (which I will subsequently add large "CHANGE THIS!" headers to.) possibly redundant with [[Wiki getting started]]. I'm trying to figure out how regulated/anarchic you want this place to be... [[User:66.108.80.238|66.108.80.238]] 19:07, 15 February 2008 (EST)
A crossroads occurred, then, in the choice of Jesus, and consequently in the options of his disciples. It occurred in the Tetrarchy of Philip, at the foothills of Mt. Hermon, at the town of Caesarea Philipi. He knowing who he was, would force the question upon others - "Who do people say Me to be?". From the lips of Shim'on, whom he would call Peter, as leader of the others, He would hear - "You are the Messiah, the Son of the Living God!" It was enough. Jesus would then begin imparting to them what the nature of His mission to be - not to expel the Romans from the Holy Land, but to go to Jerusalem, to be betrayed, to be spurned and rejected by the High Priests and the Elders of the People, to be hung on a Roman cross at the hands of the Gentiles, to die. Casesarea Philipi was in between, on one hand, Gentile pervaded Roman Tiberius to the southwest of the Sea, and on the other hand, anti-Roman nationalistic and zealotic Gamla to the north east of the Sea. (This latter would end their rebellion against Rome by suicide on Matzada in 73 A.D). Those two polarities were present in the minds of the disciples and Jesus began, on one hand, to divest from their minds the one, the warrior role of the Messiah against the Romans, and the other, to renew their thinking and their commitment to Him as the self sacrificing Lamb of God, the Prince of Peace and the true Messiah of Israel, on the other hand.


== I've translated the call to free content ==
This took place on the long 3 or 4 day journey by foot from Galilee to Jerusalem, along the [[Jordan River]] valley, coming to Jericho, ascending to Jerusalem from the east. It was in Jerusalem that he prepared and settled the matter for the perpetuation of the Church at the Lord's last supper of the Passover, to be made palpable later by the descent of the Holy Spirit. It was in Jerusalem, in the Garden of the Oil Press, that what He had been lead to believe about his mission and the meaning and manner of his death was fully embraced and accepted with no reservation or turning back. "Your will be done, Father, if there is no other way", and "There is no other way, Your will be done Father!" It was a perfect decision and commitment, perfecting his life to be a perfect sacrifice. And it was to the west just outside Jerusalem that His teachings came to a concretization and realization on the cross. And just outside of Jerusalem that His Father would vindicate him by raising him from the dead.


It's at [http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Sj/Log/xo_hackathon]. It is in european Portuguese, but it's also understandable by brasilians, as I didn't use fancy portugal-specific terms. [[User:HoboPrimate|HoboPrimate]] 14:21, 16 February 2008 (EST)
"No man takes my life from me. I have power to take it and I have power to lay it down... I lay down my life for the sheep." <ref>Bible, Gospel of John, 10:18,15 http://etext.virginia.edu/etcbin/toccer-new2?id=KjvJohn.sgm&images=images/modeng&data=/texts/english/modeng/parsed&tag=public&part=10&division=div1</ref>


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"Though He was in the form of God, He did not think equality with God something to grasp onto. But He emptied Himself and took to Himself the form of a servant and was made man, And being found in the form of a man, He humbled Himself, becoming obedient unto death, even the death of the Cross. For this reason, God has exalted Him..."<ref>Bible, Philippians 2:6-9a, http://etext.virginia.edu/etcbin/toccer-new2?id=KjvPhil.sgm&images=images/modeng&data=/texts/english/modeng/parsed&tag=public&part=2&division=div1 </ref>


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==Jesus and the Holy Spirit==
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The Holy Spirit was sometimes referred to as the Spirit of Jesus. This was to point out the special relationship that Jesus had to the Holy Spirit. Jesus was conceived by the Holy Spirit in the womb of Mary, rather than having been sired by Joseph. He was filled by the Holy Spirit from the time of His baptism at the Jordon river at the hands of his cousin John, and He was led by the Holy Spirit, not only into the desert to be tempted by the devil, but also all His life on earth. His empowerment to do "works" and miracles came through the Holy Spirit given Him, as the Holy Spirit would afterwards be given to all his followers, and not solely by virtue His being the Son of God. But, beyond this, there was a more special and unique relationship that Jesus had to the Holy Spirit. He taught, and the Book of the Acts of the Apostles and the epistles of Paul would later echo, that the Holy Spirit would be given and poured out, to His followers through Jesus ascended to the Presence of the Father, and that, in some way, perhaps mysterious but concrete, Jesus Himself, would be with them once again, in and through the presence of the Holy Spirit which they would receive. He had gone back to the Father in order to return in a new and more complete way through the Holy Spirit. He would not leave them orphaned. This Holy Spirit, then, with Jesus and the Father, constituted the reality which would reverberate through the ages for all new believers being bought into the Church, the Body of Christ (for every body needs a spirit) - " In the Name of the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Spirit".


--[[User:Nlee|Nikki]] 01:22, 17 February 2008 (EST)
==Following Jesus, believing in Him==
It is sometimes said that there are two faiths in the New Testament. That of Jesus and that of Paul. Paul's religion is that of believing in Christ as Lord and Savior, and as the divine Son of God, and that of Jesus is of following Him in the sense of living and doing as He has taught. But in reality, there is only one faith and the two not in contradiction. For the Jesus of the Gospels, besides setting forth the life that He himself lived, as a pattern for all His followers, also said, "No one knows the Son, except the Father, and no one knows the Father except the Son and anyone to whom the Son choses to reveal Him", and "I and the Father are One", and "If you see Me, you see God". .And Paul, aside, from saying that "if you believe in the Lord Jesus you shall be saved", and "therefore, being justified by Faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ", also said "work out your salvation with fear and trembling", and "Owe no man anything except to love one another, for he who loves another has fulfilled the law."


== Remove dormant account ==
Mark 16:16 "He who believes and is baptized shall be saved. And he who does not believe, shall be condemned", Jesus said. It is belief in Jesus which brings a person to the waters of baptism, and it is through the waters of baptism, that one enters into the fellowship of the Church, the people of God who are being brought, day be day, one with the other, to the life that Jesus taught about. And so his new belief and his being and living and doing are all unified under the direction of Christ and His under-shepherds. And if one will not believe, of course, then it goes without saying, he will not be baptized.


SJ,
== Historical Analysis ==
I have 2 accounts on the wiki. I'm not using the DMSerley account. Could you remove it?
=== Dating Jesus' Birth ===
Modern historians generally place the actual date of Jesus' birth between 7 and 4 B.C., due to problems reconciling the Roman and Jewish calendars with the [[Gregorian Calendar]] which is in use today throughout the industrialized world.


--[[User:AuntiMame|AuntiMame]] 14:18, 17 February 2008 (EST)
=== Historicity of Jesus ===
Occasionally, non-historians deny the [[historicity of Jesus]] (Having to do with the question of whether Jesus was in fact a real person who had a real life on earth), but few scholars take this seriously. [[Tacitus]], a Roman historian, wrote about Jesus in A.D. 115,<ref>http://www.digisys.net/users/ddalton/evidence_of_jesus_outside_the_bible.htm</ref> and [[Josephus]], a Jewish historian who did not believe in Jesus' divinity, wrote about him.<ref>http://www.christian-thinktank.com/jesusref.html</ref> Dr. [[Gary Habermas]] wrote an extensive analysis of the historicity of Jesus in his work ''The Historical Jesus: Ancient Evidence for the Life of Christ'', which discusses many historical sources that mention Jesus.


== Millenium Village Project ==
[[Lee Strobel]]'s book ''[[The Case for Christ]]'' contains a number of interviews with experts on the historical Jesus and a defense of Jesus's resurrection, and is a good resource on this subject.


I contacted some people at Columbia U, who does Millenium Village Project. They said that plans are underway to introduce XOs to Millenium Villages.
== Jesus' Name ==
=== ''Jesus'' ===
The bible doesn't tell us much about the meaning of the name ''Jesus'', but does tell us who gave the name, when the name was given, and a reason the name was given. Luke 2:21 tells us that his name was given (1) "by the angel," (2) and it was given "before He was conceived in the womb." The reason for naming him Jesus seems to be given in Matthew 1:21, which says, "...you shall call His name Jesus, for He will save His people from their sins."


--[[User:Mika]] 12:57, 18 Feburary 2008 (EST)
==== Hebrew Origin ====
The Greeks derived the name from the late Hebrew or Aramaic name Yoshua, today’s version of which is “Joshua”. The earlier Aramaic form was Jehoshua (Y’hoshua) or Joshua., deriving from Hebrew Yah, short for Yahweh, and Aramaic y’shuoh meaning “salvation”. The name thus meant “Jah is salvation”. Both Joshua and Jehoshua were common names in the time of Jesus.


(actually, they're just thinking about 'computers' in general, not specifically XOs..)
=== ''Christ'' ===
Although it appears that "Jesus Christ" is composed of a first and last name, and indeed, the New Testament at times considers the names together as a first and second name, in origin, and through much of the New Testament, "Christ" is used as a title. It is the Greek translation for "Mashiach" (Hebrew), and Meshicha (Aramaic) - meaning "Anointed". Thus He was called, "Jesus, the Anointed One". Kings priests, and prophets were often anointed with oil to consecrate them for their task, and so was Jesus for His task by the descent of the Spirit when He was baptized by John. The Spirit descended on Him and dwelt within Him. This was in fulfillment of Isaiah 61 - "The Spirit of the LORD is upon me for He has anointed (Mashach) Me; He has sent Me to bring good news to the meek, to console the broken hearted, to call out Freedom to the captives, and to prisoners Release." When Jesus ascended into the presence of the Father, the Father sent the Spirit of Jesus, the Holy Spirit, through the Son, upon the believers and they too, as their Master, were "anointed" for their living and their task.


--[[User:Mika]] 15:05, 18 Feburary 2008 (EST)
Note: The change from a title to a name is much more authentic and understandable in Aramaic language than in English. There is no inner connection from "Jesus the Christ" to "Jesus Christ" in English but in Aramaic the connecting bridge is the vocative "O Christ" (O, Anointed One)! "O Christ" and "The Christ" is the same in Aramaic - Meshicha.


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== Teachings of Jesus ==
Jesus' special method of teaching was very different from what we know as "class room" teaching, and different from "teaching from definition". Though His students sometimes sat around Him and listened, He often taught them through the actual every day events of life, by parable and much more - as they traveled, as they ate, as they met people. All of life was His text book. He took them from what they understood to what they ''were to understand'', and brought them to understanding of what He meant, by how they saw it enacted and displayed in His own life. His life was the commentary to what they heard from His lips. That is why, besides that He was the Savior of the World, the believers in Him need be followers as well - to learn of His ways by intimate association. They would remember the words of the Savior later on and understand even more once His Spirit would be given them. His Spirit would then be their Guide, just as Jesus had done for them when He was on earth.


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The Teachings of Our Lord Jesus Christ are found in the four [[Gospels]] and other holy documents.


== Translation subpages ==
[http://www.lifeofchrist.com/teachings/sermons/mount/default.asp '''Sermon on the Mount'''] This is the greatest sermon Jesus ever preached. It contains the Lord's prayer, the beatitudes, the golden rule, and practical advice for Christian living.


I've been looking at [[Uncategorizedpages | Uncategorized Pages]] and I see a lot of subpages in the form of:


http;//wiki.laptop.org/go/SomePage'''/translations'''
'''The Lord's Prayer'''


Am I correct in my belief that using these subpages are created by the use of the templates, Translation or Translations?
Our Father who art in heaven,


If so, would it be possible and/or desirable for that subpage to be created with a pre-existing category of some sort so that it doesn't end up in Uncategorized?
Hallowed be Your name.


[[User:Cjl|Cjl]] 23:25, 24 February 2008 (EST)
Your kingdom come.


Clarification:
Your will be done,
I grok the DIY ethos of the wiki, but making temmplate modifications goes beyond my personal wiki-wisdom and a change that could effect so many pages should probably be done by someone with more expertise.


[[User:Cjl|Cjl]] 13:39, 25 February 2008 (EST)
On earth as it is in heaven.


== work on translation templates ==
Give us this day our daily bread.
{{tl|translations}} now tells you to copy/paste a reasonable default to the translation list page if it's missing.


{{tl|translation}} now includes an optional "none" argument that should makes it function like a quasi-redirect. This uses a subtemplate which only exists for Spanish.
And forgive us our debts,


See [[participate]] in Spanish for an example of using the latter.
as we also have forgiven our debtors.


It would be good to have a template for the translation list page which did the same "paste me" instructions trick as I did in translations.
And do not lead us into temptation,


I did some initial changes to the translations how to page to explain this but it is far from finished.
but deliver us from evil.


Going to bed now without finishing all the cleanup involved.
For Yours is the kingdom


Thought you might like to know. [[User:Homunq|Homunq]] 22:08, 26 February 2008 (EST)
and the power


==summer of code?==
and the glory forever.
hi Sj, i'm asking if there's any hope for olpc support for [[twext]] in [[Talk:Summer of Code#twext|summer of code 2008]].. thanks! [[User:Duke|Duke]] 11:54, 27 February 2008 (EST)


[[Amen]].


== olpc userbox templates ==


SJ, how does one create a user box template similar to: {{User edtech}}. Or is that something that only an admin can do? I was thinking about templates that link a user to any local/regional grassroots groups they might be a part of (i.e. OLPC_Boston). -- [[User:AuntiMame]] 13:05, 17 Feb 2008
See [[The Lord's Prayer]] for the Greek and the interlineal transliterated Aramaic and Hebrew versions.
: To see that template's wikitext, go to [[Template:User edtech]]. You can edit it there; or create your own template, say, [[Template:User Boston]]. --[[User:Sj|Sj]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Sj|<font style="color:#f70; font-size:70%">talk</font>]] 14:15, 27 February 2008 (EST)
:: I created a template, but seem to get the username as well as the box in the OLPC Boxes section. Any idea why? -- [[User:AuntiMame]] 15:00, 17 Feb 2008


== Summer projects for HS ==
Find local school with a teacher who wants to run an OLPC summer school; field trips here, instruction and a local XO lab ---> connect them with studetns who are too young for SoC.


Partner wtih schools in each deployment -- Boston sister schools in MX and Peru and India.
'''The golden rule:'''
: Aruba footnote : beware of small tropical islands.


Consider SoCon projects as well.
"Do unto others, as you would have them do unto you!"
:


== spanish language poetry bundle uploaded ==


La paquete de poesia en espanol esta... [[http://melchua.com/tmp/poesia_en_espanol.xol aqui!]] (And gosh, the language is pretty. I can't get over how gorgeous it sounds.) [[User:Mchua|Mchua]] 00:16, 2 March 2008 (EST)
'''Prayer To Receive Him Now '''
:By the way - can you please ping me when you grab this, so I can take it down? [[User:Mchua|Mchua]] 00:18, 2 March 2008 (EST)


== Wikiosity ==
''"Jesus, I believe You are the Son of God and the Savior of the world. Thank you for coming to Earth and dying so that I could have eternal life. Please forgive all my sins. I am going to follow You with my life now. Please fill me with Your Holy Spirit and direct my steps. In Jesus' name, [[Amen]]."'' <ref> [http://www.jesus2020.com/jesus.html Prayer To Receive Him Now]</ref>


SJ, I'm trying to learn more about wikislicing and I've been exchanging e-mail with Zdenek. In my wiki-wandering, I've come across a few [http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Special:Whatlinkshere/Wikiosity broken links] to the [[Wikiosity]] activity. Is there such a thing yet or is it just in the concept phase? [[User:Cjl|Cjl]] 17:53, 4 March 2008 (EST)
== See also ==
*[[Andrew the Apostle]]
*[[Atonement]]
*[[Byzantine Empire]]
*[[Christianity]]
*[[Eucharist]]
*[[Gospel reading in the Church: the Turgama]]
*[[Lazarus (brother of Mary)]]
*[[Lazarus (Parable)]]
*[[Judaism]]
*[[New Testament understanding through the Jewish perspective]]
*[[Inspiration of Holy Scripture: An Eastern Christian and Jewish Perspective]]
*[[Passover Seder]]
*[[Essay: The Way of Salvation]]
*[[Messiah]]
*[[Messianic Prophecies]]


==References==
== Haiti ==
{{reflist}}


SJ, I sent an e-mail to Jim about next week but haven't heard back. [[User:Mika|Mika]] 13:09, 8 March 2008 (EST)
== External links ==
* [http://www.lifeofchrist.com/life/lifescan/default.asp Summary of the Life of Jesus]
* [http://www.lifeofchrist.com/life/lifescan/teachings.asp Teachings of Jesus]
* [http://www.lifeofchrist.com/teachings/sermons/ Sermons of Jesus Christ]
* [http://www.ccci.org/wij/ Who is Jesus? Is Jesus Christ God?]
* [http://www.bible-history.com/links.php?cat=19&sub=302&cat_name=Jesus&subcat_name=Background Jesus Background] Bible History on line.
* [http://www.lewissociety.org/ C. S. Lewis Society of California].
* [http://www.lewissociety.org/bodily.php The Bodily Resurrection of Jesus, by William Lane Craig].
* [http://www.ntwrightpage.com/Wright_Historical_Problem.htm Christian Origins and the Resurrection of Jesus: The Resurrection of Jesus as a Historical Problem, by N. T. Wright].
* [http://www.lewissociety.org/resurrection.php Contemporary Scholarship and the Historical Evidence for the Resurrection of Jesus Christ, by William Lane Craig].
* [http://www.ntwrightpage.com/Wright_Justice_Jesus.htm Doing Justice to Jesus: A Response to J.D. Crossan: "What Victory? What God?", by N. T. Wright].
* [http://www.ntwrightpage.com/Wright_Historical_Jesus.htm The Historical Jesus and Christian Theology, by N. T. Wright].
* [http://www.religion-online.org/showarticle.asp?title=37 The Wright Quest for the Historical Jesus, by Ben Witherington, III].


== Mozambique OLPC ==
[[Category:Jesus]]

[[Category:Christianity]]
Hi SJ--I've added some material to my page about the Mozambique intervention. I am eager to hear any comments or suggestions you have. Thanks a lot! --[[User:Jumpbean|Jumpbean]] 16:58, 8 March 2008 (EST)
[[Category:Christian History]]

[[Category:Biblical Persons]]
== Planning for the summer ==
[[Category:Divine Beings]]

What if Tank and I came on Sunday, during our normal office hours time?

--[[User:Nlee|Nikki]] 18:37, 21 March 2008 (EDT)

== Boston Meetup ==
SJ,-- the next meetup is this Tuesday (March 25 6-8Pm at Cosi across the street from 1CC. The next meetup is a play data on April 2nd, also at Cosi. --[[User:AuntiMame]] 20:37, 23 March 2008

== Comment on talk page. ==

SJ,

Not sure what you mean... respond in email better than leaving notes back and forth in wiki. --[[User:Ixo|ixo]] 16:19, 24 March 2008 (EDT)
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== request for MP ==

where can i put my request for MP machine ? i heard there is something thru RT now for that ? thanks. --[[User:Arjs|Arjs]] 00:58, 29 March 2008 (EDT)

== Food Force 2 ==

I've had the opportunity to download and play the original Food Force game and I'm starting to read my way though FF2's meeting notes. I've posted a reference on [[Talk:Food_Force]] that I think makes excellent backkground reading. I can't really contribute anything to the coding effort, buy I am interested in seeing that the lessons taught by the game have a solid foundation in evidence-based scientific and development principles. [[User:Cjl|Cjl]] 00:33, 30 March 2008 (EDT)

== WikiBrowse ==

I want to know how you convert the wikipedia xml dump in .html pages usable by WikiBrowse or any browser because I would like to make the same this you have done in wikibrowse but in French. Do you have some script or process? [[User:PatrickHetu|PatrickHetu]] 12:54, 3 April 2008 (EDT)

== Mozambique OLPC ==

Hi SJ, Thanks for your note. It's great to hear about the lady from Lesotho joining staff. I had heard some interest from people in South Africa and Lesotho as well about this kind of project, so perhaps we could scale up the research after initial work in Mozambique. It sounds like the CAA people are waiting to get their laptops before discussing any coordination...I'm exploring some other funding options as well in case the CAA implementation is one we can work with further down the line. If I have funding for a first pilot study this summer, would I be able to get the machines for it?? Thanks, [[User:Jumpbean|Jumpbean]] 08:52, 4 April 2008 (EDT)

== OLPC Philippines (4-discussion) ==

?? Just because people were asking me for photos of local User's and I finally received a machine
<gallery>
Image:Pinoy's_have_first_XO-1.JPG|Filipino '''Children''' have first XO-1, DTD April 4, 2008
Image:OLPC-PH_provincial_Board-Room.JPG|Newly constructed<br>OLPCPH Provincial Board-Room
Image:OLPCPH_BoardRoom.JPG|Newly constructed<br>OLPCPH Provincial Board-Room
</gallery>

== Summer of Code ==

Hi SJ, do you know yet if I can mentor for the Summer of Code? I've got a couple students here at the University of Toronto who are submitting applications, and it would be nice to know if I will be able to mentor them. -- [[User:Pdubroy|pdubroy]] 16:49, 4 April 2008 (EDT)

== on openness and privacy ==

That conversation we had two months ago on IRC transcripts for meetings? [http://blog.melchua.com/2008/04/05/on-openness-and-privacy/ I wrote an essay, finally.] It's relevant to a lot more than whether to log "internal" meetings here, though. [[User:Mchua|Mchua]] 15:40, 5 April 2008 (EDT)

== Vandalism ==

Sorry, don't know how to report this. Please, keep an eye on [[Special:Contributions/62.141.48.212|62.141.48.212]] as, for an unknwon reason, they keep modifying [[The OLPC Wiki/index.php]] which should be deleted and/or protected IMHO. Thanks. [[User:82.235.61.124|82.235.61.124]] 19:10, 6 April 2008 (EDT)

== usergroup starting guide ==

[[How to start a usergroup]] - yay for pycon people!

== office hours ==

Are we on for tomorrow?

--[[User:Nlee|Nikki]] 21:59, 19 April 2008 (EDT)

== Permissions... ==

Sj,

Thanks for getting the permissions setup. First couple of times, before I do anything I'll check with you... to see if that's what should be done. Will check with you, until I figure out the trends.

--[[User:Ixo|ixo]] 03:07, 26 April 2008 (EDT)

== reminder: adminship privs ==

[[OLPC:Administrators#user:cjl]] has 3 votes of support now - if that's enough, could you take a moment to swing by and grant [[User:Cjl|Cjl]] magical powers? [[User:Mchua|Mchua]] 16:59, 6 May 2008 (EDT)
: Ah, yeah, you're right. Revising procedures in the middle of executing them ''isn't'' a good idea. Thanks for pointing that out. [[User:Mchua|Mchua]] 22:24, 8 May 2008 (EDT)

== Flocking together ==

I've refined the definition of [http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Category:People Category:People]. I think that wider use of this category can have particular benefits with regard to assisting on-wiki communities grow by making it easier to quickly find birds-of-a-feather, particularly for "outside parties" that we want to convert to "new participants". If you agree that this tag could be an aid to lowering the first barrier to participation (finding someone to reach out to on a given project), I'd like you to consider how to best promote it's use (going forward) and to get existing wiki pages tagged (retrofitting). I've already done some tagging and as I wander the wiki I always try to leave improved trail-markers behind, but there are a lot of pages out there for one person. [[User:Cjl|Cjl]] 13:30, 10 May 2008 (EDT)

== Page for you... ==

[[User:Mchua/Braindumps/For SJ]] - You may want to watchlist this one. I'll pile up messages on here so we can be functional while asynchronous - feel free to tell me to watch a similar page so we can have bidirectional communications (yay symmetry)! [[User:Mchua|Mchua]] 19:20, 14 May 2008 (EDT)

== Question about olpcboxtop template ==

Hey, what's the correct way to fill in the OBX xobundle field of {{{olpcboxtop}}}? It doesn't seem to support Media: links. Question arose while updating [[Terminal]], whose olpcboxtop is broken for the time being. [[User:Wade|wade]] 05:59, 23 May 2008 (EDT)

== Boston in early June ==

Who/where are we coordinating travel and lodging for those of us visiting Boston next month?
Should I just email you off wiki, or?
-- [[User:Adricnet|Adricnet]] 21:52, 25 May 2008 (EDT)

== Adminship ==

Thanks for nominating me for adminship. I'll be continuing to work with Leejc on vandalism (in particular learning the "sentencing guidelines" for various offenses). I have a long-held philosphical stance to "only use my powers for good", which would naturally extend to wiki adminship. If I have any questions, I'll be sure to ask. [[User:Cjl|Cjl]] 20:56, 28 May 2008 (EDT)

== Mozambique investigation ==

Hi SJ--I was wondering if I could touch base with you sometime on the set-up I'll be doing for the Mozambique intervention in July. Thanks! [[User:Jumpbean|Jumpbean]] 00:13, 30 May 2008 (EDT)

== Planning to be there all weekend for the events and the SG meeting ==

Planning to be there all weekend for the [[Grassroots_unconference]] events and the S-G meeting and I'm still trying to determine exactly how long I'll be able to stay in Boston. I'd like to take a few minutes to just look around if at all possible since this is my vacation :).

If there's any dorm/barracks plans for the weekend, I'd be interested. Worst case is I'll have to get a hotel room, which is expensive. Splitting hotel costs is a good plan if it comes to that. Thanks!

-- [[User:Adricnet|Adricnet]] 06:23, 30 May 2008 (EDT)

== Improvement for blind readers of OLPC Wiki ==

Hello. User Mchua pointed me to you. [[User_talk:Per|Here]] you can find info about a desired improvement for blind readers of the OLPC Wiki. It would be nice if you could have a short look on it and perhaps leave a comment. Thank you. -- [[User:Per|Per]] 06:25, 2 June 2008 (EDT)

== Moving pages between wikis ==

Hi SJ,

[[Community Jabber Servers]] is moving to http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/A_list_of_Jabber_networks_around_the_world. What's the best way of reflecting that? Removing the content from the former and putting some sort of template to say it has moved? Can we do redirects between wikis?

Thx, --[[User:Morgs|morgs]] 10:39, 3 June 2008 (EDT)

== UN publications ==

Is there anyone at OLPC that can render a meaningful opinion on this [[Licensing_petitions#UN_Publications]] question? These represent a huge and highly valuable potential resource, but only if OLPC takes clear and thoughtful position on the license term question. [[User:Cjl|Cjl]] 00:26, 6 June 2008 (EDT)

== need edit for localization of protected templates ==

See my notes in [[Template_talk:OLPC]] regarding [[Template:OLPC]] and [[Template:Users]]. [[User:Dupuy|@alex]] 16:01, 6 June 2008 (EDT)

== images ==

* [[:Image:Grassrootsjam.svg]]
* [[:Image:Grassrootsjampreview.png]]

--[[User:Nlee|Nikki]] 19:16, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

== Activity handbook @ library ==

update the [http://www.olpcaustria.org/mediawiki/index.php/Activity_handbook activity handbook] in the library with the current May edition

[[User:ChristophD|ChristophD]] 11:34, 11 June 2008 (EDT)
== Weekly Updates - OLPC-GSoC'08 ==
Hello,you asked to post Weekly Updates on your talk page,so here it is [http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Vaish.rajan/Weekly_Updates Rajan's Weekly Updates on Atlas America project(earlier known as Geography with Environment Awareness Application)].Thanks !

== Activity-summary template gone wonky ==

Yama pointed out something strange about [[Books]] on my talk page, but it's just that page. Something seems to have gone strange with one of your [[:Template:Project-summary]] or [[:Template:Activity-summary]] templates. You can see other examples linked from this page [[:Category:Activity_summary]]. I think a move of the template was handled badly or something. You seem to have done the most (and most recent) owrk on that series of templates, do you have time to look at what is going on? [[User:Cjl|Cjl]] 17:47, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

== First pass at ethiopia design ==

The colors don't really... go with one another. So I didn't use all 3.

Anyway, a couple of different ideas: [[:Image:Ethiopiatest1nlee.png]]. Shoot me some feedback.

--[[User:Nlee|Nikki]] 17:40, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

:* [[:Image:Ethiopiagreen_nlee.png]]
:* [[:Image:Ethiopiawhite_nlee.png]]
:* [[:Image:Ethiopiafinalnlee.svg]]

:--[[User:Nlee|Nikki]] 22:24, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

:: Note from Lidet; Any image you choose to use about Ethiopia is usually extremely politically charged. The Yellow star on blue is no exception. The safest and only real representation that we can use for Ethiopia are the colors of the flag superimposed on an XO-man. [[User:Sethwoodworth|Seth]] 17:37, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

== binaural mics for g2 ==

don't forget: two mics for sound placement and stereo recording... see why barry thought unnecc for gen1. {{unsigned|Sj}}?

+1. As we discussed, binaural microphone placement (working cooperatively with the shape of the device for the best effect) would open many possibilities for engaging applications for a small increase in price. The [[XO-2]] design is promising for kinesthetic learners... I'd love to see it work with the auditory / musical types as well. Let's talk more on this. --[[User:Bjordan|Bjordan]] 21:56, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

== User rights review ==

I was looking through the user rights log and I noticed a few that a bureaucrat should probably review.
*{{user|Nia}} no user page, still sysop
*{{user|Tracy}} no user page, still sysop
*{{user|Danny}} no user page, still sysop, bureaucrat

[[User:Cjl|Cjl]] 15:47, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Good point. Can you put all three up for review on [[OLPC:Administrators]] ? --[[User:Sj|Sj]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Sj|<font style="color:#f70; font-size:70%">talk</font>]] 22:13, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

: Already did so [http://wiki.laptop.org/index.php?title=OLPC:Administrators&diff=143736&oldid=143729] [[User:Cjl|Cjl]] 22:16, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

== Images not being thumbnailed ==

SJ - I unfortunately don't have the time to look into this right now but MediaWiki usually thumbnails images for you, (especially if you throw them into GALLERY tags http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Picture_tutorial#.3Cgallery.3E_tag ) and I'm getting fed lots of full-resolution images that have just been scaled down with the browser (I.e. being sent full multi-megabyte images that are being squeezed down) - you may want to check if mediawiki has access to either the PHP 'gd' library or imagemagick or whatever it uses to make thumbs ... see [[User:Hobart/thumbnails20080709]] for example of problem
:&mdash;[[User:Hobart|Hobart]] 23:31, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

== Wiki Cleanup post wikimania ==

Could we get together after wikimania and work on some wiki-structure and index's? [[User:Sethwoodworth|Seth]] 03:07, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

== Could you add the "Musical Look at Waste" to collections grid? ==

Hi SJ,
I've updated the library.info file of the content bundles I mantain, so that they go into the Activities category in the library. Could you add them to the main grid of the collections grid, or point me to where I can learn how to do it, as it is not as simple as editing that wiki page and adding text and link to bundles.
The bundles address has kept the same, but here they are just in case, tested in Update.1 and latest joyride, the English and Portuguese versions.

Portuguese - [[Image:Olhar-musical-pelos-residuos.xol]]
English - [[Image:Musical-look-at-waste.xol‎]]

A nice idea would be if kids in countries where one of these languages are taught at school, would translate the content to their mother language. It's cc-sa-by so no authorization is needed.

Ok seeya, keep up the good work
Eduardo.
P.S. - I would even endeavour to request you to make this collection part of library core. I've seen kids get great pleasure and a feeling of achievement from making and playing these instruments. I know it is really Portugal-centric, so I'll understand if you don't want to put in library-core as it could be a bit of "culture-pushing". [[User:HoboPrimate|HoboPrimate]] 17:55, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

== 708? ==
Hi SJ, last night I could have sworn that 709 was the build suggested to me... but I can only find 708. Am I delusional? Hope you guys had fun last night. Sorry I had to skip out. --- [[User:AuntiMame|AuntiMame]] 31 July 2008 16:08 UTC

== $100 laptop project ==

http://wiki.laptop.org/index.php?title=OLPC_on_free/open_source_software&curid=1288&diff=150253&oldid=145903

Mako used the term $100 laptop. Odd. [[User:Sethwoodworth|Seth]] 07:13, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
: That's an old essay, from the days when that was its name. He was reverting vandalism that you and cjl hadn't noticed on a previous partial revert. --[[User:Sj|Sj]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Sj|<font style="color:#f70; font-size:70%">talk</font>]] 18:27, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

== Possibly "Variable Quality" Exchange on Sugar List ==
Hi SJ,

Following up on your question about the quality of posts to the public lists. See this exchange:
http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2008-August/017568.html

I do not want to discuss the substance of the exchange and I do nto begrudge Erik for answering. He gave a good answer and it helped and Bastien went away happy. Please do not re-open the subject of this exchange or I will feel that my raising it here was a mistake.

I say its an example of Variable Quality responses because I'm not sure the information exchanged was correct or definitive. It may well be correct and it may not be. I'm just not sure as it stands today. Its an example for consideration as we try to flush out how best to run this project on public lists and wikis.

Thanks,

Greg S
[[User:Gregorio|Gregorio]] 13:45, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

== to upload ==
nts: screenshots of pdb for pia/jw.
wk reps with wiki traffic stats, rt influx, mailing list # and traffic (link to wikipage)
wk rep including mail-out, contrib prog update

== sad ==

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berkman_Center

== ya :/ ==

But I like your rename. :) [[User:Remi|Remi]] 02:58, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

== Twinkle & bot account ==
being a complete n00b, how does one get a bot account? And reading the Wikipedia page on Twinkle confused me... is ti something loaded on teh OLPC wiki that I call to? Or it loaded on my machine and it reaches to the wiki? [[User:AuntiMame|AuntiMame]] 13:07, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
:I tried adding the full URL to the Wikipedia twinkle to my monobok.js, but still no go. Do you know if anyone on the OLPC wiki is using it, so I can look at their monobook.js and see how its done? [[User:AuntiMame|AuntiMame]] 23:58, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

== adult activity pack ==
I can create the basic pack, but can't add stuff like midnight commander 'cuz that's installed via yum. (If there's a way to get packages to auto install during formatting or in a pack I don't know about it). [[User:AuntiMame|AuntiMame]] 18:34, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

== 8-10 wikilinks ==

http://dev.laptop.org/~cjb/enwiki/8k-10k-diff and [[w:user:sj/en-g1g1]] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AWikipedia_CD_Selection%2Fadditions_and_updates&diff=212207029&oldid=211039948].

== Unu Enciklopedio Por Junulo ==
How much interest has there been in your Esperanto OEPC effort? I'm willing to offer what little help I can, so if you have anything in particular that needs to be done, just say the word.

I was also thinking a Project Page on Vikipedio like the one that the English Wikipedia has, would be useful.
--Tomas SATIRLSEY

== hey! let's have coffee.... ==

Hi sj -- my friend Delisile mentioned you were working here, and I just haven't gotten around to saying "hello"

I'm now the director of the [http://www.cambridgema.gov/peace/ Cambridge Peace Commission], and I'd love to catch up -- and see if there are any areas for collaboration or working together. My schedule is pretty flexible, and I'm happy to come to Kendall....

Peace,
Brian ([[User:Bcorr|Bcorr]] 00:16, 12 September 2008 (UTC))

:Sorry about the delay -- was in Philadelphia for a few days. What about [http://www.dadotea.com/ Dado Tea] on Church St. in Harvard Sq.? I could do it next Monday or Tuesday morning (9/22 or 9/23) or the following week any morning except Wednesday .... [[User:Bcorr|Bcorr]] 14:45, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

== Thank you ==

Thank you for your welcome message.
Greetz [[User:JoGnet|JoGnet]] 17:15, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

== user rename ==

I just noticed this:

(User rename log); 17:31 . . Sj (Talk | contribs) (has renamed User:Fucking idiot to User:Fid: 10 edits. Reason: )

"Fid" is a nice username. It's a shame to make it unavailable. If you must rename, something like u154970135 would be a good choice.

IMHO there is no need though, since nobody is going to go digging through the list of users.

[[Special:Contributions/72.40.45.79|72.40.45.79]] 18:14, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

== hi SJ, ==

Honestly, I was never an admin at NWE, so it'll be new. I just made templates or fixed templates that wasn't working. For vandalism, I could check recent changes and catch one, or if you are developing a bot, I can vandalize on purpose to see if the bot will catch it. Am I already an admin now? It'll be great if you can post me something like welcome to OLPC but for admins so I could read how to use my powers :P. --[[User:Hiro|Hiro]] 12:19, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
:Hi SJ, ok no problem. Is there something specific you will like for me to work on? I wish the main page could be changed to be more... easily viewed instead of bunch of links, but I wouldn't be able to design it from scratch. Just thought I'll throw in the idea. Are there pages that need clean up or with broken templates? Feel free to let me know. --[[User:Hiro|Hiro]] 17:17, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
::Hi again, is this a vandalism or is it there on purpose? [[Special:Contributions/201.221.32.126]] I'm talking about what this user did btw. Is there a specific place I could report all this? --[[User:Hiro|Hiro]] 18:34, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
:::Ping :) --[[User:Hiro|Hiro]] 17:58, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

== Hi SJ! ==
I'm Prakhar Agarwal. I recently took my GRE exam to pursue Master's in US. I was really waiting for my certificate. I have to send a copy of that certificate to many universities. I wish if I could talk to you regarding that. Cheers! -- [[User:Prakhar|Prakhar]] 14 September 2008

==wiki adminship==
this was a surprise, cuz I didn't know I'd been nominated. the wiki admin pages are the only parts of the wiki that I usually ignore! i'll strive to use my new powers for truth, justice adn the <strike>American</strike> OLPC way ;-) [[User:AuntiMame|AuntiMame]] 00:15, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

== en alianza - in py ==

http://enalianza.org.py/v2/

== Re game jam Peru ==

sure, I can come..pls see your email! [[User:RafaelOrtiz]]


==Bot account created ==
[[User:AuntieMameBot]] created. [[User:AuntiMameBot|AuntiMameBot]] 23:55, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

== TOC/heading question ==

On a page like [[Sugar Almanac]] in a section like [[Sugar Almanac#Package: sugar]] how would we link to the headings on [[Sugar.env]]? --erikb

: I'm not sure quite what you want to do. The TOC comes from the <nowiki>{{</nowiki>[[Template:Sugar Almanac TOC|Sugar Almanac TOC]]}} template... which is long and can't easily be compressed into that three-line section for the sugar Package. Can you explain which headings you want to link to? the same ones that are currently in [[Sugar Almanac#Package: sugar]], but with a different format? --[[User:Sj|Sj]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Sj|<font style="color:#f70; font-size:70%">talk</font>]] 22:26, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

I would like to create a new TOC which can list the headings on different pages. For example, in this new TOC, I would like to list all of the subheadings on linked-to pages.

[[Sugar.graphics.toolbutton]]

* [[Sugar.graphics.toolbutton#How_do_I_create_my_own_custom_tool_button.3F]]

* [[Sugar.graphics.toolbutton#How_do_I_connect_my_tool_button_to_a_callback.3F]]

* [[Sugar.graphics.toolbutton#What_is_a_tooltip_and_how_do_I_set_it_for_my_tool_button.3F]]

* [[Sugar.graphics.toolbutton#How_do_I_reset_the_icon_displayed_for_my_tool_button.3F]]

[[Sugar.profile]]

* [[Sugar.profile#How_do_I_get_the_user.27s_nick_name.3F]]

* [[Sugar.profile#How_do_I_get_the_XO_colors_set_by_the_user.3F]]

Can I provide a TOC with a list of pages and have the wiki automatically list the subheadings on those pages? We would like to see all of the Almanac's answered questions on one page.

[[User:Jedierikb|Jedierikb]]


Any ideas or pointers? Thanks -- jedierikb

== Hello ==

I am new to the OLPC wiki. I was assigned to prepare a Deployment guide for OLE Nepal. I created the page but I don't know if it meets the standards of the OLPC wiki. Could you take a look and leave suggestions at the talk page. Thank you. [[User:Pradosh|Pradosh]] 05:36, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLE_Nepal:_Deployment_guide

== Checking up ==

Hi SJ,

I recently made an [[Projects/dhading | application]] for some development laptops through the contributors' program, which I understand was approved. I was hoping to get started soon and just wanted to check if the laptops have been sent and if not when I could expect them.

Thanks,

Gerry Healy


I'll be leaving Nepal in June 2009 so I have some time constraints to work on the [[Projects/dhading | Dhading project]]. I have had delays at my own end also, but for it to be realistic in this time frame. I need some development machines soonish. I may be able to borrow some from OLE. Would that be a better option? [[User:Nickel chrome|Nickel chrome]] 11:03, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
: There's no problem getting them from us -- check back next week on the status of your machines. You might consider applying for a Nepali contributors-pool as well. [[Special:Contributions/24.61.14.99|24.61.14.99]] 20:27, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

== Health Content Poster ==

Hello SJ,

Not sure if this is already taken care of, but I'm writing about the health content poster post in the Art Wanted section. If you're still looking for contributors/helpers, please let me know. I'll be glad to help.

Best wishes,

--Gabriel
--[[Special:Contributions/98.217.72.125|98.217.72.125]] 21:20, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

== Bundles vs. collections ==

These days there are
* [[Activities]], <tt>.xo</tt> files which show up in the Home view
* [[Collections]], <tt>.xol</tt> files which show up in the OLPC Library.

So I think [[:Category:Activity_bundle]] should only be for the .xo file put on wiki.laptop.org , not for the wiki page it comes from.

I'm not sure what [[:Category:Bundles]] is for.
: all [[bundles]], activity, library, generic. --[[User:Sj|Sj]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Sj|<font style="color:#f70; font-size:70%">talk</font>]]

Also, [[:Category:Activity_bundle]] says:
: Activites that provide a <tt>.xo</tt> bundle should declare so ...
but I thought all Activities provide a .xo file.
:: If you define it that way, then this is true. That's probably clean; it leaves items such as individual etoys projects in limbo until they are packaged.

BTW, I'm adding all [[Collections]] I find to [[:Category:Collections]] and it seems other categorizations of them are redundant.
: Which other categoriations? That category should itsefl be in [[:Category:Bundles]]. Thanks for the update! --[[User:Sj|Sj]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Sj|<font style="color:#f70; font-size:70%">talk</font>]] 18:52, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

??! -- [[User:Skierpage|skierpage]] 11:33, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

== in case you miss it in chat ==

[http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Special:ContributionHistory?offset=1229316817#176840] :) -- phoebe

== Decisions about Projects ==

The workflow for new projects is not clear to me. Who decides about a project and how often? AFAIC decisions are made on weekly meetings, but my project has not been touched in the projectdb for 5 weeks. And why are projects hidden in the projectdb? If there is nothing happening for weeks someone else might submit a similar project, or even the same. This is a duplication of work for both the submitters and the decision makers. Is there a way to make the process more transparent? --[[User:Cwickert|Cwickert]] 14:09, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
: the plan is to move the whole thing, minus the sharing of address/phone info at the end, to the wiki and [[projects]] page. --[[User:Sj|Sj]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Sj|<font style="color:#f70; font-size:70%">talk</font>]] 14:42, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

== Communication ==
What are the official channels for development related communication? #olpc and #olpc-help were not very helpful because noone was able to answere my questions. #olpc-devel is orphaned.
Also I wonder if editing wiki pages is a good way for direct one on one communication. Isn't there something else if I wanted to reach you? --[[User:Cwickert|Cwickert]] 14:09, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
: You can use #olpc-devel in irc.oftc.net -- that just chanegd irc networks. [[Special:Contributions/24.61.14.99|24.61.14.99]] 20:25, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

== Postal address ==

Please mention yours on your page - not everyone has email. Thanks!! --[[User:Arjs|Arjs]] 14:11, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

== Activity web pages vs. Projects/ subpages ==

Hey sj, as I wrote devel@lists.laptop.org I wrote [[Maintaining activity web information]].

If activities remain on w.l.o and use the [Edit with form], anyone can make a lists of activities that stays up-to-date instead of messing with templates and fragments and transclusions. See [[Activity queries]]. To me, this is clearly the way forward.

But there's a lot of stuff I don't understand.

* Many activities also have an Activities/''Name'' page that's got an ugly summary template. Often it's a link to Projects/''Name'', e.g. [[Activities/Etoys]]. I believe these are confusing and redundant. Can I delete them? If not, is there an explanation of what these pages are for?

* [[Creating an activity]] has buttons to Create activity summary and [Create an activity]. I don't understand why there are two buttons and I don't think either is an appropriate template for an activity. What should an activity's page look like?

* Some of the Projects/ subpages aren't activities, e.g. [[Projects/Translation_dictionary]] is a collection. What are/were you trying to achieve with Projects/ subpages? I see references to a projects DB, is there such a thing?
** If you want to make a list of projects e.g. on the [[Projects]] page, semantics are the way to do it.
** So I'm not sure if all the project template machinery is redundant. I don't know whether to mark it obsolete or update it to set semantic properties.
* Is any clean-up and improvement on w.l.o irrelevant if activities are moving to sugarlabs.org ?!

Like so many areas on wiki.laptop.org, I see the results of an idea but not the plan for it, so I'm not sure how to improve on it.

Thanks for any elucidation!

-- [[User:Skierpage|skierpage]] 00:08, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

== Mail of Jan 30, 2009 ==
Please be so kind as to answer to the mail I sent you on January 30th, 2009.

--[[User:Cwickert|Cwickert]] 15:43, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

== User_talk: page message notifications ==

Hi Sj, I'm having trouble finding information on the implementation of the notification service that generates a orange-spanned message on my current page when a new message on my talk page is saved. Any pointers would be appreciated.

I'm actually thinking about this in relation to a possible utility to generate small message flags that would appear on main pages on the border of sections that have corresponding talk_page comments (configured by the commenter to match an anchor placed on the main page section.) --[[User:FGrose|FGrose]] 00:51, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
: Now I see. It's a good idea... some hacking would be required. --[[User:Sj|Sj]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Sj|<font style="color:#f70; font-size:70%">talk</font>]] 03:44, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

== Invitation/Brandeis/Social Justice and Technology Conference ==

Dear Mr. Klein,

Charles Nesson suggested I be in touch with you. The International Center for Ethics, Justice, and Public Life at Brandeis University is hosting a conference called TMI (Too Much Information): Social Justice in the Age of Facebook on September 10 and 11, 2009. We would like to invite you to speak at the main session on September 11 from 9-11 am, "Does Digital Deepen the Divide?" We believe that you, with your role at One Laptop Per Child, would present a unique and valuable perspective on the question of technological access for children internationally, and whether access to new technologies and computers helps bridge the divides among individuals and societies, or whether it increases the gaps.

I would love to talk to you further about this conference and give you additional detail. Can you contact me at sgwilson@brandeis.edu? I look forward to speaking with you soon.

Best,
Stephanie Gerber Wilson, PhD
Brandeis University
sgwilson@brandeis.edu
: Thank you for the invitation. I've responded via email. --[[User:Sj|Sj]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Sj|<font style="color:#f70; font-size:70%">talk</font>]]

== Template:test-case-query question ==

Greetings SJ,

I'm slowly getting familiar with semantic+mediawiki in an effort to determine if this will meet my needs. I'm using the laptop.org QA pages as a reference for sample queries, forms and templates. However, I'm stuck trying to understand a particular problem where mediawiki will not expand a nested template properly using the <nowiki>{{fullurl:...}}</nowiki> parser function.

As one of the original authors of the Template:Add-test-result and Template:Test-case-query pages, I thought you might have insight to this mediawiki-ism. This is likely a new-user problem, but any experiences you can share around the SMW implementation for laptop.org would be appreciated. You can see the page that currently is presenting difficulty at https://publictest6.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Testing_SMW. I can be reached at jlaska AT fedoraproject DOT org. I hope to hear from you soon :)

Thanks,
James
: I don't think you can embed parser functions the way you were trying to. But the extension is coming along quickly - you should drop a question at the SMW central wiki for the most accurate answer. --[[User:Sj|Sj]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Sj|<font style="color:#f70; font-size:70%">talk</font>]] 05:40, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

== Adminship thanks ==

thanks for the nomination. Whatever happens, I'll try and behave to expectations... --[[User:Martinlanghoff|Martinlanghoff]] 14:26, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

Revision as of 03:04, 14 January 2010

For teamwiki account access, please add a request at OLPC:Requests for permissions (the #Teamwiki requests section below is now deprecated). Thanks! --Sj leave me a message 14:55, 29 January 2008 (EST)

Older stuff : User talk:Sj/Archive2007 ...

Interwiki to meta-languages... wikipedia


Everything works again

Thank you, dear Samuel and OLPC-Team --Papillon 20:34, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

OLPCO2e, et al

Hi Sven,

I was cleaning up the wiki this morning and found all of the CO2 pages, which blossomed over the spring. There were about 12 pages which all had the same content, ... so I merged them (without the use of any gang :) into OLPCO2e. Sj talk 13:00, 8 December 2009 (UTC) I cannot find the page: OLPCO2e link Agenda 21 anymore. How can I recuperate it? It is a very important page for all in OLPC and OLPCO2e. Thanky--SvenAERTS 11:20, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

I also replied - but on my talk page - on your other paragraphs. This tool notifies you of that or do I just have to mention and you go there and have a look then or I have to do like above and copy/paste parts- topic per topic - to copy/paste here in your User talk page? Do I have to Watch this page? How are these "message" alerts being activated? Ty --SvenAERTS 11:20, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

Counter does not work

Since Saturday 8/1/09 the counter does not work. Now it is not possible to see how many users has been accessed the pages. I’m not sure but I think all pages have the same problem --Papillon 10:43, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Your OLPC Map on Google Maps, how do we collaborate in it?

I wanted to but couldn't figure out how to add the location of The Elaine and Nicholas Negroponte School Location of School Province:Preah Vihear District:Rôvieng Commune:Rôssmei Village:Trâpeang http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Cambodia My father is visiting my wife's (she's an adopted Cambodian living in Brussels Belgium) Parents. My father created www.lzg.be - Teachers without Frontiers and I'm on the pay-roll of http://www.olpceu.org/content/aboutus/aboutus_staff.html] - http://www.olpco2e.org --SvenAERTS 09:45, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

broken link

Your "Official work page" returns "Sorry. This page is currently unavailable."

Content meeting request

Hi SJ - Wanted to check in and see if some of us could meet with you for additional questions about wikislices. For example, who builds the slices? Also, who insures the content is accurate and appropriate? How do those slices get deployed on the XO machines? Do teachers have a way to request or build a wikislice themselves (would he or she just request it on the wikipedia wikislices project page?) Thanks! annegentle 13:54, 11 April 2008 (EDT)

Right now wikislices are determined by the editors of the relevant page; and they pull the latest content from the wiki in question. Future features include identifying specific revisions of pages, having a 'reviewed' flag for each article+revision, and contribution to a wikislice from an XO (say, by posting a set of words + a topic to a requests-for-wikislice page). Zdenek is a good person to talk to about how that might work. We're having a wikislice related discussion tomorrow aft EST, if you're around. --Sj talk 22:58, 11 April 2008 (EDT)

Thanks for the info and pointer to Zdenek, very useful, especially the bundles of xol files, good to know and peruse. Michael Priestly and a few others at IBM wanted on the call but I probably can't get everyone notified by tomorrow, but I'm hoping Monday would work. Cjl is also interested so please do send call info for tomorrow's call, and also, please check availability on Monday (sorry for repeat requests but the interest is high). Thanks! annegentle 23:09, 11 April 2008 (EDT)

ALC request

Old account was Aclaver (not Aculver as you listed). I created a new account Alc to match your request that the TeamWiki user id match the RT and Wiki user ID.

Kids encyclopedia

Dear Samuel,

Thanks for taking the time to send me a comment on my blog. Im available most days of the week, as I currently am working for myself. Im based in Swansea in the UK. So phoning maybe rather on the expensive. However I would be happy to talk over skype. If you are willing to suggest a time I will be happy to chat. Preferably I would prefer to be in bed by 3am here.

So if you could give me an email back at jonhurlock/at/gmail /.com or add me on skype using jon_hurlock (yes theres and underscore in there, so please dont remove that, just remove slashes from the gmail account.).

Kind regards,

Jon Hurlock

Google SoC mentor for E-mail activity

The individual who wrote the Email_Activity wiki page asked me whether or not I would be interested in becoming a SoC mentor. I created a small page about me at PhilipVanHoof. I'm the author of the Tinymail framework, frequent GNOME contributor and foundation member. I'm on the team of software developers who developed the Modest E-mail client by Nokia, which uses the Tinymail framework. I also wrote TMut (a minimalistic E-mail client that uses Tinymail). Tinymail is a library/framework for building mobile E-mail clients (http://tinymail.org).

My E-mail is spam@pvanhoof.be, my GMail (which I don't use) is philip.vanhoof@gmail.com

Hola!

Hi! As usual you're monitoring recent changes! :) Great!

Yes, I'm coming back to life and noticed Lauren's notice in my talk page so I decided to answer that one asap, and then try to fully resurrect. I'll keep you posted (was writing en email to re-introduce myself). Xavi 21:19, 14 January 2008 (EST)

Video - Human Computation

SJ, happen to glance through one of your older versions of your User page. Cool video about human computation. Quite intertaining... hmmmm... interesting.. Thanks for sharing, --IainD 04:46, 15 January 2008 (EST)


Violent Games in the Activities?

Hi SJ,

What's your opinion on this issue? http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2008-January/009849.html

--Chihyu 12:36, 17 January 2008 (EST)

table test

Name Surname Height
John Smith 1.85
Ron Ray 1.89
Mario Bianchi 1.72
Average: 1.82

see datasheets.

I'm just kicking myself...

for not paying closer attention and getting an OLPC XO during the GIGO... I like what you all have done with this wiki, it has some neat touches! ++Lar: t/c 22:31, 18 January 2008 (EST)

PS, I just added added [[OLPC:]] as http://wiki.laptop.org/go/$1 to meta:Interwiki map (that is, to http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Interwiki_map )... if that's not what you all had in mind please pop by the talk page. It looks like you're not using the interwiki map here though??? ++Lar: t/c 22:37, 18 January 2008 (EST)
Hello there, and welcome :-) not yet! see OLPC:Wiki and its talk page. --Sj leave me a message

a request

Contact OLPC page is protected with cascading option, so its translations bar cannot be modified now. Would you please change it? -- LeeSI 00:04, 19 January 2008 (EST)

done. --Sj leave me a message

de nada?

Just curious - which front page links? I've been in sweep mode -- cleaning my home for sale and trying to make the wiki, um, moderately readable ergo informative KatieStyle Nazi 11:49, 21 January 2008 (EST)

mediawiki extensions?

Moved to ... OLPC_talk:Wiki

I and others are gearing up a wiki welcome team (and supporting docs/pages). Can we get the Newuserlog extension installed to more easily welcome newbies? See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Log/Newusers for an example usage you've probably looked at thousands of times over. ;) Mchua 14:57, 25 January 2008 (EST)

Also see Wiki getting started, which I think you'll appreciate. Mchua 15:43, 25 January 2008 (EST)

New info file spec

info file ---> bundle metadata

1pm sunday

Just confirming to check if you get my message regarding 1pm conference call on Sunday 27th. thanks. --Arjs 22:30, 26 January 2008 (EST)

yes, cheers. --Sj leave me a message


Teamwiki requests


This section has moved to OLPC:Requests for permissions. Please leave requests for teamwiki access and rt and other permissions there.


Health content xls files

With regard to the recently added support in wiki for viewing excel (xls) files created in google spreadsheet to be viewed as simple html tables within wiki. It'd be great if we could copy paste the contents of the various xls files there and use the wiki plugin to easily view them. See content section on health--Arjs 01:47, 29 January 2008 (EST)

GM clarification?

After our conversation on the nature of GM today, the GM section of the laptopfoundation.org website is not very explanatory according to my OLPC:Webpage_corrections_needed#laptopfoundation.org current understanding, and is something Walter or someone else with editing privs may want to fix. Mchua 00:32, 30 January 2008 (EST)

Community project review process

My notes from our talk over IRC today are on teamwiki at User:Mchua/Developers_program. Let me know if I'm still misunderstanding what you proposed. (I'm not wholly sure I agree with it yet, but I don't think I fully understand it yet - see the "cons" section of the community proposal - and want to make sure I "get it" before I voice an opinion.) Mchua 00:32, 30 January 2008 (EST)

University programs

Yeah, the page needs updating and more resources, as do grassroots groups. University program - or rather, Talk:University program - has some notes from today's conversations (not just with you, with other support-gangers and Arjun too) that need to be cleaned up and moved into mainpage eventually. Mchua 00:32, 30 January 2008 (EST)

dev program community implementation moved to public

here. Mchua 14:09, 30 January 2008 (EST)

re: repair center stuff on teamwiki

I'm hesitant to push all of that to public wiki, since Adam said he's like to work with me and Kim to port it (there's some stuff not ready to go public, though I don't know what that stuff is - I've asked). If Adam/Kim says ok, I would love to push it public. (Heck, I've been trying to do that for at least 2 weeks.) Can you poke them about this since you're physically adjacent? Mchua 14:12, 30 January 2008 (EST)

Music

I cannot but agree. My duties? Maintain the music wiki page and find people interested in helping us with new music content? Andriani 2:05, 31 January 2008 (EST)

peer-review for Health

How/what might be the first steps for peer review for the health pages ? thanks. ? --Arjs

RfA

The OLPC version of an RfA I would like to apply for admin access on the wiki. I am frequently getting math-based captchas which are really slowing down my wiki-editing. It has been reported that Admins do not have this problem. Also, I would like to be an admin for the purposes of mass revocation of vandalism. is for Insects 17:18, 4 February 2008 (EST)

RE: zine work

You mean from the wiki? Not really, most of the cool stuff is in isforinsect's flickr group. Not exactly sure what you mean... ffm 19:33, 5 February 2008 (EST)

OLPC Europe.

Sj, great idea.... new section created.. Weekly_zine/0/OLPC_Europe have them update with summary of what they are working on.. Thanks for keeping your eyes open to new ideas! :) --ixo 03:03, 8 February 2008 (EST)

Zine - translations and /About page. :)

sj,

Added zine/About page, put an area to acknowledge translators.. 

 Weekly_zine/About#Translations_by

Please have translators update the acks, when they do translations so they can get recognized. :)

Thanks for the idea on the /About page, --ixo 03:54, 10 February 2008 (EST)

off grid power notes are up

Off grid power should be up to date with the stuff I've pieced together. care to take a gander? Mchua 04:21, 10 February 2008 (EST)

Hi SJ,

Here is an XO math logo (that is perhaps too clever for its own good). —Joe 23:54, 10 February 2008 (EST)

how to use a wiki page

discovered today that we have a How to use a wiki page, which may or may not fit into your/FFM's grand scheme of policy-creation (which I will subsequently add large "CHANGE THIS!" headers to.) possibly redundant with Wiki getting started. I'm trying to figure out how regulated/anarchic you want this place to be... 66.108.80.238 19:07, 15 February 2008 (EST)

I've translated the call to free content

It's at [1]. It is in european Portuguese, but it's also understandable by brasilians, as I didn't use fancy portugal-specific terms. HoboPrimate 14:21, 16 February 2008 (EST)

Color corrected images

Image:NleeXOman.svg
Image:NleeXOman.png

--Nikki 01:22, 17 February 2008 (EST)

Remove dormant account

SJ, I have 2 accounts on the wiki. I'm not using the DMSerley account. Could you remove it?

--AuntiMame 14:18, 17 February 2008 (EST)

Millenium Village Project

I contacted some people at Columbia U, who does Millenium Village Project. They said that plans are underway to introduce XOs to Millenium Villages.

--User:Mika 12:57, 18 Feburary 2008 (EST)

(actually, they're just thinking about 'computers' in general, not specifically XOs..)

--User:Mika 15:05, 18 Feburary 2008 (EST)

remove fetchInterwiki.pl from mediawiki

maintenance/fetchInterwiki.pl is ancient, removable. poke Aevar.

update interwiki.sql to include wikipedia?

Translation subpages

I've been looking at Uncategorized Pages and I see a lot of subpages in the form of:

http;//wiki.laptop.org/go/SomePage/translations

Am I correct in my belief that using these subpages are created by the use of the templates, Translation or Translations?

If so, would it be possible and/or desirable for that subpage to be created with a pre-existing category of some sort so that it doesn't end up in Uncategorized?

Cjl 23:25, 24 February 2008 (EST)

Clarification: I grok the DIY ethos of the wiki, but making temmplate modifications goes beyond my personal wiki-wisdom and a change that could effect so many pages should probably be done by someone with more expertise.

Cjl 13:39, 25 February 2008 (EST)

work on translation templates

{{translations}} now tells you to copy/paste a reasonable default to the translation list page if it's missing.

{{translation}} now includes an optional "none" argument that should makes it function like a quasi-redirect. This uses a subtemplate which only exists for Spanish.

See participate in Spanish for an example of using the latter.

It would be good to have a template for the translation list page which did the same "paste me" instructions trick as I did in translations.

I did some initial changes to the translations how to page to explain this but it is far from finished.

Going to bed now without finishing all the cleanup involved.

Thought you might like to know. Homunq 22:08, 26 February 2008 (EST)

summer of code?

hi Sj, i'm asking if there's any hope for olpc support for twext in summer of code 2008.. thanks! Duke 11:54, 27 February 2008 (EST)


olpc userbox templates

SJ, how does one create a user box template similar to:

Nuvola apps edu miscellaneous.png This user is in educational technology.

. Or is that something that only an admin can do? I was thinking about templates that link a user to any local/regional grassroots groups they might be a part of (i.e. OLPC_Boston). -- User:AuntiMame 13:05, 17 Feb 2008

To see that template's wikitext, go to Template:User edtech. You can edit it there; or create your own template, say, Template:User Boston. --Sj talk 14:15, 27 February 2008 (EST)
I created a template, but seem to get the username as well as the box in the OLPC Boxes section. Any idea why? -- User:AuntiMame 15:00, 17 Feb 2008

Summer projects for HS

Find local school with a teacher who wants to run an OLPC summer school; field trips here, instruction and a local XO lab ---> connect them with studetns who are too young for SoC.

Partner wtih schools in each deployment -- Boston sister schools in MX and Peru and India.

Aruba footnote : beware of small tropical islands.

Consider SoCon projects as well.

spanish language poetry bundle uploaded

La paquete de poesia en espanol esta... [aqui!] (And gosh, the language is pretty. I can't get over how gorgeous it sounds.) Mchua 00:16, 2 March 2008 (EST)

By the way - can you please ping me when you grab this, so I can take it down? Mchua 00:18, 2 March 2008 (EST)

Wikiosity

SJ, I'm trying to learn more about wikislicing and I've been exchanging e-mail with Zdenek. In my wiki-wandering, I've come across a few broken links to the Wikiosity activity. Is there such a thing yet or is it just in the concept phase? Cjl 17:53, 4 March 2008 (EST)

Haiti

SJ, I sent an e-mail to Jim about next week but haven't heard back. Mika 13:09, 8 March 2008 (EST)

Mozambique OLPC

Hi SJ--I've added some material to my page about the Mozambique intervention. I am eager to hear any comments or suggestions you have. Thanks a lot! --Jumpbean 16:58, 8 March 2008 (EST)

Planning for the summer

What if Tank and I came on Sunday, during our normal office hours time?

--Nikki 18:37, 21 March 2008 (EDT)

Boston Meetup

SJ,-- the next meetup is this Tuesday (March 25 6-8Pm at Cosi across the street from 1CC. The next meetup is a play data on April 2nd, also at Cosi. --User:AuntiMame 20:37, 23 March 2008

Comment on talk page.

SJ,

Not sure what you mean... respond in email better than leaving notes back and forth in wiki. --ixo 16:19, 24 March 2008 (EDT)

request for MP

where can i put my request for MP machine ? i heard there is something thru RT now for that ? thanks. --Arjs 00:58, 29 March 2008 (EDT)

Food Force 2

I've had the opportunity to download and play the original Food Force game and I'm starting to read my way though FF2's meeting notes. I've posted a reference on Talk:Food_Force that I think makes excellent backkground reading. I can't really contribute anything to the coding effort, buy I am interested in seeing that the lessons taught by the game have a solid foundation in evidence-based scientific and development principles. Cjl 00:33, 30 March 2008 (EDT)

WikiBrowse

I want to know how you convert the wikipedia xml dump in .html pages usable by WikiBrowse or any browser because I would like to make the same this you have done in wikibrowse but in French. Do you have some script or process? PatrickHetu 12:54, 3 April 2008 (EDT)

Mozambique OLPC

Hi SJ, Thanks for your note. It's great to hear about the lady from Lesotho joining staff. I had heard some interest from people in South Africa and Lesotho as well about this kind of project, so perhaps we could scale up the research after initial work in Mozambique. It sounds like the CAA people are waiting to get their laptops before discussing any coordination...I'm exploring some other funding options as well in case the CAA implementation is one we can work with further down the line. If I have funding for a first pilot study this summer, would I be able to get the machines for it?? Thanks, Jumpbean 08:52, 4 April 2008 (EDT)

OLPC Philippines (4-discussion)

?? Just because people were asking me for photos of local User's and I finally received a machine

  • Filipino Children have first XO-1, DTD April 4, 2008

    Filipino Children have first XO-1, DTD April 4, 2008

  • Newly constructed OLPCPH Provincial Board-Room

    Newly constructed
    OLPCPH Provincial Board-Room

  • Newly constructed OLPCPH Provincial Board-Room

    Newly constructed
    OLPCPH Provincial Board-Room

Summer of Code

Hi SJ, do you know yet if I can mentor for the Summer of Code? I've got a couple students here at the University of Toronto who are submitting applications, and it would be nice to know if I will be able to mentor them. -- pdubroy 16:49, 4 April 2008 (EDT)

on openness and privacy

That conversation we had two months ago on IRC transcripts for meetings? I wrote an essay, finally. It's relevant to a lot more than whether to log "internal" meetings here, though. Mchua 15:40, 5 April 2008 (EDT)

Vandalism

Sorry, don't know how to report this. Please, keep an eye on 62.141.48.212 as, for an unknwon reason, they keep modifying The OLPC Wiki/index.php which should be deleted and/or protected IMHO. Thanks. 82.235.61.124 19:10, 6 April 2008 (EDT)

usergroup starting guide

How to start a usergroup - yay for pycon people!

office hours

Are we on for tomorrow?

--Nikki 21:59, 19 April 2008 (EDT)

Permissions...

Sj,

Thanks for getting the permissions setup. First couple of times, before I do anything I'll check with you... to see if that's what should be done. Will check with you, until I figure out the trends.

--ixo 03:07, 26 April 2008 (EDT)

reminder: adminship privs

OLPC:Administrators#user:cjl has 3 votes of support now - if that's enough, could you take a moment to swing by and grant Cjl magical powers? Mchua 16:59, 6 May 2008 (EDT)

Ah, yeah, you're right. Revising procedures in the middle of executing them isn't a good idea. Thanks for pointing that out. Mchua 22:24, 8 May 2008 (EDT)

Flocking together

I've refined the definition of Category:People. I think that wider use of this category can have particular benefits with regard to assisting on-wiki communities grow by making it easier to quickly find birds-of-a-feather, particularly for "outside parties" that we want to convert to "new participants". If you agree that this tag could be an aid to lowering the first barrier to participation (finding someone to reach out to on a given project), I'd like you to consider how to best promote it's use (going forward) and to get existing wiki pages tagged (retrofitting). I've already done some tagging and as I wander the wiki I always try to leave improved trail-markers behind, but there are a lot of pages out there for one person. Cjl 13:30, 10 May 2008 (EDT)

Page for you...

User:Mchua/Braindumps/For SJ - You may want to watchlist this one. I'll pile up messages on here so we can be functional while asynchronous - feel free to tell me to watch a similar page so we can have bidirectional communications (yay symmetry)! Mchua 19:20, 14 May 2008 (EDT)

Question about olpcboxtop template

Hey, what's the correct way to fill in the OBX xobundle field of {{{olpcboxtop}}}? It doesn't seem to support Media: links. Question arose while updating Terminal, whose olpcboxtop is broken for the time being. wade 05:59, 23 May 2008 (EDT)

Boston in early June

Who/where are we coordinating travel and lodging for those of us visiting Boston next month? Should I just email you off wiki, or? -- Adricnet 21:52, 25 May 2008 (EDT)

Adminship

Thanks for nominating me for adminship. I'll be continuing to work with Leejc on vandalism (in particular learning the "sentencing guidelines" for various offenses). I have a long-held philosphical stance to "only use my powers for good", which would naturally extend to wiki adminship. If I have any questions, I'll be sure to ask. Cjl 20:56, 28 May 2008 (EDT)

Mozambique investigation

Hi SJ--I was wondering if I could touch base with you sometime on the set-up I'll be doing for the Mozambique intervention in July. Thanks! Jumpbean 00:13, 30 May 2008 (EDT)

Planning to be there all weekend for the events and the SG meeting

Planning to be there all weekend for the Grassroots_unconference events and the S-G meeting and I'm still trying to determine exactly how long I'll be able to stay in Boston. I'd like to take a few minutes to just look around if at all possible since this is my vacation :).

If there's any dorm/barracks plans for the weekend, I'd be interested. Worst case is I'll have to get a hotel room, which is expensive. Splitting hotel costs is a good plan if it comes to that. Thanks!

-- Adricnet 06:23, 30 May 2008 (EDT)

Improvement for blind readers of OLPC Wiki

Hello. User Mchua pointed me to you. Here you can find info about a desired improvement for blind readers of the OLPC Wiki. It would be nice if you could have a short look on it and perhaps leave a comment. Thank you. -- Per 06:25, 2 June 2008 (EDT)

Moving pages between wikis

Hi SJ,

Community Jabber Servers is moving to http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/A_list_of_Jabber_networks_around_the_world. What's the best way of reflecting that? Removing the content from the former and putting some sort of template to say it has moved? Can we do redirects between wikis?

Thx, --morgs 10:39, 3 June 2008 (EDT)

UN publications

Is there anyone at OLPC that can render a meaningful opinion on this Licensing_petitions#UN_Publications question? These represent a huge and highly valuable potential resource, but only if OLPC takes clear and thoughtful position on the license term question. Cjl 00:26, 6 June 2008 (EDT)

need edit for localization of protected templates

See my notes in Template_talk:OLPC regarding Template:OLPC and Template:Users. @alex 16:01, 6 June 2008 (EDT)

images

--Nikki 19:16, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

Activity handbook @ library

update the activity handbook in the library with the current May edition

ChristophD 11:34, 11 June 2008 (EDT)

Weekly Updates - OLPC-GSoC'08

Hello,you asked to post Weekly Updates on your talk page,so here it is Rajan's Weekly Updates on Atlas America project(earlier known as Geography with Environment Awareness Application).Thanks !

Activity-summary template gone wonky

Yama pointed out something strange about Books on my talk page, but it's just that page. Something seems to have gone strange with one of your Template:Project-summary or Template:Activity-summary templates. You can see other examples linked from this page Category:Activity_summary. I think a move of the template was handled badly or something. You seem to have done the most (and most recent) owrk on that series of templates, do you have time to look at what is going on? Cjl 17:47, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

First pass at ethiopia design

The colors don't really... go with one another. So I didn't use all 3.

Anyway, a couple of different ideas: Image:Ethiopiatest1nlee.png. Shoot me some feedback.

--Nikki 17:40, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

--Nikki 22:24, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
Note from Lidet; Any image you choose to use about Ethiopia is usually extremely politically charged. The Yellow star on blue is no exception. The safest and only real representation that we can use for Ethiopia are the colors of the flag superimposed on an XO-man. Seth 17:37, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

binaural mics for g2

don't forget: two mics for sound placement and stereo recording... see why barry thought unnecc for gen1. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sj (talk • contribs) ?

+1. As we discussed, binaural microphone placement (working cooperatively with the shape of the device for the best effect) would open many possibilities for engaging applications for a small increase in price. The XO-2 design is promising for kinesthetic learners... I'd love to see it work with the auditory / musical types as well. Let's talk more on this. --Bjordan 21:56, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

User rights review

I was looking through the user rights log and I noticed a few that a bureaucrat should probably review.

Cjl 15:47, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Good point. Can you put all three up for review on OLPC:Administrators ? --Sj talk 22:13, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Already did so [2] Cjl 22:16, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Images not being thumbnailed

SJ - I unfortunately don't have the time to look into this right now but MediaWiki usually thumbnails images for you, (especially if you throw them into GALLERY tags http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Picture_tutorial#.3Cgallery.3E_tag ) and I'm getting fed lots of full-resolution images that have just been scaled down with the browser (I.e. being sent full multi-megabyte images that are being squeezed down) - you may want to check if mediawiki has access to either the PHP 'gd' library or imagemagick or whatever it uses to make thumbs ... see User:Hobart/thumbnails20080709 for example of problem

—Hobart 23:31, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Wiki Cleanup post wikimania

Could we get together after wikimania and work on some wiki-structure and index's? Seth 03:07, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Could you add the "Musical Look at Waste" to collections grid?

Hi SJ, I've updated the library.info file of the content bundles I mantain, so that they go into the Activities category in the library. Could you add them to the main grid of the collections grid, or point me to where I can learn how to do it, as it is not as simple as editing that wiki page and adding text and link to bundles. The bundles address has kept the same, but here they are just in case, tested in Update.1 and latest joyride, the English and Portuguese versions. 

Portuguese - File:Olhar-musical-pelos-residuos.xol
English - File:Musical-look-at-waste.xol

A nice idea would be if kids in countries where one of these languages are taught at school, would translate the content to their mother language. It's cc-sa-by so no authorization is needed.

Ok seeya, keep up the good work Eduardo. P.S. - I would even endeavour to request you to make this collection part of library core. I've seen kids get great pleasure and a feeling of achievement from making and playing these instruments. I know it is really Portugal-centric, so I'll understand if you don't want to put in library-core as it could be a bit of "culture-pushing". HoboPrimate 17:55, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

708?

Hi SJ, last night I could have sworn that 709 was the build suggested to me... but I can only find 708. Am I delusional? Hope you guys had fun last night. Sorry I had to skip out. --- AuntiMame 31 July 2008 16:08 UTC

$100 laptop project

http://wiki.laptop.org/index.php?title=OLPC_on_free/open_source_software&curid=1288&diff=150253&oldid=145903

Mako used the term $100 laptop. Odd. Seth 07:13, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

That's an old essay, from the days when that was its name. He was reverting vandalism that you and cjl hadn't noticed on a previous partial revert. --Sj talk 18:27, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Possibly "Variable Quality" Exchange on Sugar List

Hi SJ,

Following up on your question about the quality of posts to the public lists. See this exchange: http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2008-August/017568.html

I do not want to discuss the substance of the exchange and I do nto begrudge Erik for answering. He gave a good answer and it helped and Bastien went away happy. Please do not re-open the subject of this exchange or I will feel that my raising it here was a mistake.

I say its an example of Variable Quality responses because I'm not sure the information exchanged was correct or definitive. It may well be correct and it may not be. I'm just not sure as it stands today. Its an example for consideration as we try to flush out how best to run this project on public lists and wikis.

Thanks,

Greg S Gregorio 13:45, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

to upload

nts: screenshots of pdb for pia/jw. 
wk reps with wiki traffic stats, rt influx, mailing list # and traffic (link to wikipage)
wk rep including mail-out, contrib prog update

sad

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berkman_Center

ya :/

But I like your rename. :) Remi 02:58, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Twinkle & bot account

being a complete n00b, how does one get a bot account? And reading the Wikipedia page on Twinkle confused me... is ti something loaded on teh OLPC wiki that I call to? Or it loaded on my machine and it reaches to the wiki? AuntiMame 13:07, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

I tried adding the full URL to the Wikipedia twinkle to my monobok.js, but still no go. Do you know if anyone on the OLPC wiki is using it, so I can look at their monobook.js and see how its done? AuntiMame 23:58, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

adult activity pack

I can create the basic pack, but can't add stuff like midnight commander 'cuz that's installed via yum. (If there's a way to get packages to auto install during formatting or in a pack I don't know about it). AuntiMame 18:34, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

8-10 wikilinks

http://dev.laptop.org/~cjb/enwiki/8k-10k-diff and w:user:sj/en-g1g1 and [3].

Unu Enciklopedio Por Junulo

How much interest has there been in your Esperanto OEPC effort? I'm willing to offer what little help I can, so if you have anything in particular that needs to be done, just say the word.

I was also thinking a Project Page on Vikipedio like the one that the English Wikipedia has, would be useful. --Tomas SATIRLSEY

hey! let's have coffee....

Hi sj -- my friend Delisile mentioned you were working here, and I just haven't gotten around to saying "hello"

I'm now the director of the Cambridge Peace Commission, and I'd love to catch up -- and see if there are any areas for collaboration or working together. My schedule is pretty flexible, and I'm happy to come to Kendall....

Peace, Brian (Bcorr 00:16, 12 September 2008 (UTC))

Sorry about the delay -- was in Philadelphia for a few days. What about Dado Tea on Church St. in Harvard Sq.? I could do it next Monday or Tuesday morning (9/22 or 9/23) or the following week any morning except Wednesday .... Bcorr 14:45, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for your welcome message. Greetz JoGnet 17:15, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

user rename

I just noticed this:

(User rename log); 17:31 . . Sj (Talk | contribs) (has renamed User:Fucking idiot to User:Fid: 10 edits. Reason: )

"Fid" is a nice username. It's a shame to make it unavailable. If you must rename, something like u154970135 would be a good choice.

IMHO there is no need though, since nobody is going to go digging through the list of users.

72.40.45.79 18:14, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

hi SJ,

Honestly, I was never an admin at NWE, so it'll be new. I just made templates or fixed templates that wasn't working. For vandalism, I could check recent changes and catch one, or if you are developing a bot, I can vandalize on purpose to see if the bot will catch it. Am I already an admin now? It'll be great if you can post me something like welcome to OLPC but for admins so I could read how to use my powers :P. --Hiro 12:19, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Hi SJ, ok no problem. Is there something specific you will like for me to work on? I wish the main page could be changed to be more... easily viewed instead of bunch of links, but I wouldn't be able to design it from scratch. Just thought I'll throw in the idea. Are there pages that need clean up or with broken templates? Feel free to let me know. --Hiro 17:17, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
Hi again, is this a vandalism or is it there on purpose? Special:Contributions/201.221.32.126 I'm talking about what this user did btw. Is there a specific place I could report all this? --Hiro 18:34, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
Ping :) --Hiro 17:58, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Hi SJ!

I'm Prakhar Agarwal. I recently took my GRE exam to pursue Master's in US. I was really waiting for my certificate. I have to send a copy of that certificate to many universities. I wish if I could talk to you regarding that. Cheers! -- Prakhar 14 September 2008

wiki adminship

this was a surprise, cuz I didn't know I'd been nominated. the wiki admin pages are the only parts of the wiki that I usually ignore! i'll strive to use my new powers for truth, justice adn the American OLPC way ;-) AuntiMame 00:15, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

en alianza - in py

http://enalianza.org.py/v2/

Re game jam Peru

sure, I can come..pls see your email! User:RafaelOrtiz


Bot account created

User:AuntieMameBot created. AuntiMameBot 23:55, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

TOC/heading question

On a page like Sugar Almanac in a section like Sugar Almanac#Package: sugar how would we link to the headings on Sugar.env? --erikb

I'm not sure quite what you want to do. The TOC comes from the {{Sugar Almanac TOC}} template... which is long and can't easily be compressed into that three-line section for the sugar Package. Can you explain which headings you want to link to? the same ones that are currently in Sugar Almanac#Package: sugar, but with a different format? --Sj talk 22:26, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

I would like to create a new TOC which can list the headings on different pages. For example, in this new TOC, I would like to list all of the subheadings on linked-to pages.

Sugar.graphics.toolbutton

Sugar.profile

Can I provide a TOC with a list of pages and have the wiki automatically list the subheadings on those pages? We would like to see all of the Almanac's answered questions on one page.

Jedierikb


Any ideas or pointers? Thanks -- jedierikb

Hello

I am new to the OLPC wiki. I was assigned to prepare a Deployment guide for OLE Nepal. I created the page but I don't know if it meets the standards of the OLPC wiki. Could you take a look and leave suggestions at the talk page. Thank you. Pradosh 05:36, 22 October 2008 (UTC) http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLE_Nepal:_Deployment_guide

Checking up

Hi SJ,

I recently made an application for some development laptops through the contributors' program, which I understand was approved. I was hoping to get started soon and just wanted to check if the laptops have been sent and if not when I could expect them.

Thanks,

Gerry Healy


I'll be leaving Nepal in June 2009 so I have some time constraints to work on the Dhading project. I have had delays at my own end also, but for it to be realistic in this time frame. I need some development machines soonish. I may be able to borrow some from OLE. Would that be a better option? Nickel chrome 11:03, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

There's no problem getting them from us -- check back next week on the status of your machines. You might consider applying for a Nepali contributors-pool as well. 24.61.14.99 20:27, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Health Content Poster

Hello SJ,

Not sure if this is already taken care of, but I'm writing about the health content poster post in the Art Wanted section. If you're still looking for contributors/helpers, please let me know. I'll be glad to help.

Best wishes,

--Gabriel --98.217.72.125 21:20, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Bundles vs. collections

These days there are

  • Activities, .xo files which show up in the Home view
  • Collections, .xol files which show up in the OLPC Library.

So I think Category:Activity_bundle should only be for the .xo file put on wiki.laptop.org , not for the wiki page it comes from.

I'm not sure what Category:Bundles is for.

all bundles, activity, library, generic. --Sj talk

Also, Category:Activity_bundle says:

Activites that provide a .xo bundle should declare so ...

but I thought all Activities provide a .xo file.

If you define it that way, then this is true. That's probably clean; it leaves items such as individual etoys projects in limbo until they are packaged.

BTW, I'm adding all Collections I find to Category:Collections and it seems other categorizations of them are redundant.

Which other categoriations? That category should itsefl be in Category:Bundles. Thanks for the update! --Sj talk 18:52, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

??! -- skierpage 11:33, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

in case you miss it in chat

[4] :) -- phoebe

Decisions about Projects

The workflow for new projects is not clear to me. Who decides about a project and how often? AFAIC decisions are made on weekly meetings, but my project has not been touched in the projectdb for 5 weeks. And why are projects hidden in the projectdb? If there is nothing happening for weeks someone else might submit a similar project, or even the same. This is a duplication of work for both the submitters and the decision makers. Is there a way to make the process more transparent? --Cwickert 14:09, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

the plan is to move the whole thing, minus the sharing of address/phone info at the end, to the wiki and projects page. --Sj talk 14:42, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Communication

What are the official channels for development related communication? #olpc and #olpc-help were not very helpful because noone was able to answere my questions. #olpc-devel is orphaned. Also I wonder if editing wiki pages is a good way for direct one on one communication. Isn't there something else if I wanted to reach you? --Cwickert 14:09, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

You can use #olpc-devel in irc.oftc.net -- that just chanegd irc networks. 24.61.14.99 20:25, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Postal address

Please mention yours on your page - not everyone has email. Thanks!! --Arjs 14:11, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Activity web pages vs. Projects/ subpages

Hey sj, as I wrote devel@lists.laptop.org I wrote Maintaining activity web information.

If activities remain on w.l.o and use the [Edit with form], anyone can make a lists of activities that stays up-to-date instead of messing with templates and fragments and transclusions. See Activity queries. To me, this is clearly the way forward.

But there's a lot of stuff I don't understand.

  • Many activities also have an Activities/Name page that's got an ugly summary template. Often it's a link to Projects/Name, e.g. Activities/Etoys. I believe these are confusing and redundant. Can I delete them? If not, is there an explanation of what these pages are for?
  • Creating an activity has buttons to Create activity summary and [Create an activity]. I don't understand why there are two buttons and I don't think either is an appropriate template for an activity. What should an activity's page look like?
  • Some of the Projects/ subpages aren't activities, e.g. Projects/Translation_dictionary is a collection. What are/were you trying to achieve with Projects/ subpages? I see references to a projects DB, is there such a thing?
    • If you want to make a list of projects e.g. on the Projects page, semantics are the way to do it.
    • So I'm not sure if all the project template machinery is redundant. I don't know whether to mark it obsolete or update it to set semantic properties.
  • Is any clean-up and improvement on w.l.o irrelevant if activities are moving to sugarlabs.org ?!

Like so many areas on wiki.laptop.org, I see the results of an idea but not the plan for it, so I'm not sure how to improve on it.

Thanks for any elucidation!

-- skierpage 00:08, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Mail of Jan 30, 2009

Please be so kind as to answer to the mail I sent you on January 30th, 2009.

--Cwickert 15:43, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

User_talk: page message notifications

Hi Sj, I'm having trouble finding information on the implementation of the notification service that generates a orange-spanned message on my current page when a new message on my talk page is saved. Any pointers would be appreciated.

I'm actually thinking about this in relation to a possible utility to generate small message flags that would appear on main pages on the border of sections that have corresponding talk_page comments (configured by the commenter to match an anchor placed on the main page section.) --FGrose 00:51, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

Now I see. It's a good idea... some hacking would be required. --Sj talk 03:44, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Invitation/Brandeis/Social Justice and Technology Conference

Dear Mr. Klein,

Charles Nesson suggested I be in touch with you. The International Center for Ethics, Justice, and Public Life at Brandeis University is hosting a conference called TMI (Too Much Information): Social Justice in the Age of Facebook on September 10 and 11, 2009. We would like to invite you to speak at the main session on September 11 from 9-11 am, "Does Digital Deepen the Divide?" We believe that you, with your role at One Laptop Per Child, would present a unique and valuable perspective on the question of technological access for children internationally, and whether access to new technologies and computers helps bridge the divides among individuals and societies, or whether it increases the gaps.

I would love to talk to you further about this conference and give you additional detail. Can you contact me at sgwilson@brandeis.edu? I look forward to speaking with you soon.

Best, Stephanie Gerber Wilson, PhD Brandeis University sgwilson@brandeis.edu

Thank you for the invitation. I've responded via email. --Sj talk

Template:test-case-query question

Greetings SJ,

I'm slowly getting familiar with semantic+mediawiki in an effort to determine if this will meet my needs. I'm using the laptop.org QA pages as a reference for sample queries, forms and templates. However, I'm stuck trying to understand a particular problem where mediawiki will not expand a nested template properly using the {{fullurl:...}} parser function.

As one of the original authors of the Template:Add-test-result and Template:Test-case-query pages, I thought you might have insight to this mediawiki-ism. This is likely a new-user problem, but any experiences you can share around the SMW implementation for laptop.org would be appreciated. You can see the page that currently is presenting difficulty at https://publictest6.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Testing_SMW. I can be reached at jlaska AT fedoraproject DOT org. I hope to hear from you soon :)

Thanks, James

I don't think you can embed parser functions the way you were trying to. But the extension is coming along quickly - you should drop a question at the SMW central wiki for the most accurate answer. --Sj talk 05:40, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Adminship thanks

thanks for the nomination. Whatever happens, I'll try and behave to expectations... --Martinlanghoff 14:26, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

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